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[JustinP]

psp-3000 : will wait for verdict and pandora report

Ps3 : i think what sony fans fail to grasp is that when Sony are "we are working on bringing the cost of components down" this means "phew, thank god for that, we can now finally make some profits off this damned thing" not "$299 PS3 in a few months! We loves to bleed for ya!"

"sony fans" are the ones failing to grasp that? 

[Bildi]

@ the new PS3.  That's genius.

Looks like the chances of a BC model with a lower price is next to impossible now.

[Joe Molotov]

Good, I've been waiting for a more expensive PS3 sku before jumping in.

[Grecco]

The New SKU is fucking stupid as hell.  But Sony cant live without two PS3 SKUs on the market at the same time

[pilonv1]

@ the keyboard,

in a stupid spot
requires CHARGING

epid fail

[Eel O'Brian]

in other news, I see some people are already linking the larger drive to PS2 downloadable games! oh my, that's quite something.

what do you know of this

[JustinP]

i think the placement of the keyboard is fine.  fits the DS3's design better.  if it were on the bottom, it would have to be even farther downward because of the analog sticks.  and if you actually hold a controller and try it out, it feels fine to move your thumbs up there as if you were typing. 

[cool breeze]

@ the keyboard,

in a stupid spot
requires CHARGING

epid fail

I still am trying to wrap my head around that one.

The weirdest thing is how clever it is that the mouse touch pad is the keyboard itself, but the problem is that everything else about it really dumb.

[JustinP]

i'm trying to imagine using the keyboard - erm... can you actually user it whilst holding the controller?!

seems like thumb usage would be straight out.

i'm imagining a slight shift of your hand position, but nothing crazy different about how you hold it. 

[pilonv1]

i cant believe you can easily reach those numbers with thumbs.

how does the mouse touch pad thing work? that sounds cool.

[Eel O'Brian]

what do you know of this downloadable ps2 game thing, charlie

[laesperanzapaz]

what

a

SHIT

gen

last gen, i wouldve balked at the idea that PC gaming would become my main platform.  PS2 simply had everything: games in every genre, PS1 BC, low price, one SKU, simple plug n play that consoles should always strive for, no RRod, just simple straight and firm.

oh goodness

[Eel O'Brian]

i don't see them doing it for another year or so, until there's nothing but shovelware support for the ps2

right now a few big games still come out for it

there's no way they're going to let the possibility of easy download dollars completely pass them by, though

[JustinP]

doubt i'd get much use out of PS2 downloads.  maybe third strike or something that i'd like to play off the hdd or something. 

[Eel O'Brian]

i'd probably buy a few games that way

i have a 60 gig, but if it ever shits the bed down the line i might be screwed

if they got the emulation working across the board, it would be pretty easy money to slap an iso (or whatever) on psn

everyone hoping they "upgrade" the titles in any way is in for disappointment, though

[cool breeze]

i cant believe you can easily reach those numbers with thumbs.

how does the mouse touch pad thing work? that sounds cool.

Basically the entire keyboard unit itself is touch sensitive, so rubbing your finger along it is the same as a laptop touch pad, just bumpy.

The only real way I see it working is by using one hand to hold the controller, and one to type.  That is still a worse solution than the 360 one.

i'd probably buy a few games that way

i have a 60 gig, but if it ever shits the bed down the line i might be screwed

You can always upgrade your hard drive.  Mine is about 200 gigs free right now (194 after tomorrow) and I had a launch 60 gig unit.

I think PS2 download service would be great if it has reasonable prices.  Main thing I would want is Japanese PS2 games to work on my NA console; I would actually be willing to rebuy the digital version as long as I can play them.

[Eel O'Brian]

there's no way they're going to let the possibility of easy download dollars completely pass them by, though

well, given the painfully slow approach to PS1 classics under PSN outside of Japan, i am inclined to be sceptical.

It should be easy dollars, but there doesn't seem to be any urgency.

i have a 60 gig, but if it ever shits the bed down the line i might be screwed

as long as your purchase list remains, you can always redownload.

no, i meant for ps2 BC

[Eel O'Brian]

there's no way they're going to let the possibility of easy download dollars completely pass them by, though

well, given the painfully slow approach to PS1 classics under PSN outside of Japan, i am inclined to be sceptical.

i think the situation there is partially due to ps3 being a whole generation removed from PS1 - and don't they also have to tinker with some of the games to get them running well on PSP?

[demi]

wow arent you fuckin hardcore

well i beat bionic commando on super hard

[AdmiralViscen]

These high priced SKUs only deter regular Joes from buying the 'shit' model even though they don't have the extra bucks for the 'better' model. I thought Sony had finally found their way through the woods on this subject.

[demi]

i could check your achievements, but i simply don't care

hey look up my Soul Calibur 4 achievements while you're at it

[Cormacaroni]

well, i'm out another two hundred

i skipped the slim, will pick this up on announcement of hack

yup

[demi]

i was kidding i dont HAVE ANY

[demi]

what a jerk

[cool breeze]

Another new feature on the new PSP I just found out is that video out supports both HDTVs and SDTVs now for gameplay.

Video-Out has also been enhanced, with the system now able to interlace for televisions that don't support a progressive output (that means non-HDTVs).

[bork]

Another new feature on the new PSP I just found out is that video out supports both HDTVs and SDTVs now for gameplay.

Video-Out has also been enhanced, with the system now able to interlace for televisions that don't support a progressive output (that means non-HDTVs).

That's how it should have been in the first place!  Still not enough of a reason to upgrade though.

[cool breeze]

Not true!

The PS1 emulator by fans ran at like 2 fps on the PSP, so Sony was nice enough to provide their own PS1 emulator for the community to crack.  On their own they are nothing, but together they are everything.

[chronovore]

i'm trying to imagine using the keyboard - erm... can you actually user it whilst holding the controller?!

seems like thumb usage would be straight out.

You hold the controller normally, and type with your nose, or other protrusion.

[bork]

That's how it should have been in the first place!  Still not enough of a reason to upgrade though.

this was hacked into the -current- slim ages ago.

CFM coders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sony.

 

Details??  I haven't updated my CFW in AGES.  Does this work for games now or just emulators?

[cool breeze]

From:  http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20080821/psp3000.htm

　As for the merit “of PSP-3000”, it could add to display improvement, being clear with the improvement of contrast, and the actualization of wide color gamut besides the fact that it can draw natural image, we raised also speed of response, the drawing whose being off-center is little became possible. In addition, you say that by the fact that reflected decrease technology is adopted it has become easy to see even at the bright place. As for size of display differing from so far 4.3 inches.

This is bablefish translated, so if anyone who reads Japanese can confirm, I will begin to get really excited.

[Smooth Groove]

Any reports of the new anti-reflectivity?

[bork]

Details??  I haven't updated my CFW in AGES.  Does this work for games now or just emulators?

i think it's everything.

it'll be in pspupdates.qj.net somewhere - it's a firmware plug in i think.

Can't find anything other than news of a release for this support (for coders) from last year.  Is it part of the firmware now?

[bork]

http://foosa.do.am/

there you go.
Slim and Lite only.

Hmmm...it's not that great though.  Doesn't seem to run in 480p, so the games look like shit.  Emulators don't seem to benefit from the speed boost.

BUT I can't wait to mess around with this on an SDTV. 

[cool breeze]

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/21/psp-3000-lcd-twice-the-response-time/

Compared to the PSP-2000, the new 3000 model has twice the color gamut, five times the contrast ratio and, what we're most excited about, is twice the response time.

And more reason why PSP-3000 is worth it.

[bork]

Still need to see it in action, but if it's easily modded, guess I'll end up with one sooner or later...

[Eric P]

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/21/psp-3000-lcd-twice-the-response-time/

Compared to the PSP-2000, the new 3000 model has twice the color gamut, five times the contrast ratio and, what we're most excited about, is twice the response time.

And more reason why PSP-3000 is worth it.

fucking sold

maybe now i can play x-men legends

[cool breeze]

That is a pretty damn big difference.

[AdmiralViscen]

Holy fuck

Sony

[cool breeze]

fap fap fap fap fap fap fap
is it hackable?
etc... etc...

Probably not at launch, but again, don't underestimate the CFW scene.

[Beezy]

I'll never buy a handheld at launch again.

[Jansen]

holy fuck i was wrong. that is quite the difference.

still not gonna get one until they get cfw on that bitch. which despite what some might think could take a while seeing as how the current psp's mobos still haven't been cracked yet.

[pilonv1]

FUCK ME

phat psp is getting kicked to the curb. OMG AT THAT SCREEN

[originalz]

There's no way that picture is taken legit, there must be some tricks at work or something to make the old version look worse.

If that is a real legit pic tho...damn.  How does it compare to the Slim?

[Smooth Groove]

I hope that increased contrast is not just due to new LCD but also a glass screen.  Also, why won't Sony change the analog stick more dratiscally?  Every PSP owner I know thinks the nub sucks.    

[cool breeze]

There's no way that picture is taken legit, there must be some tricks at work or something to make the old version look worse.

If that is a real legit pic tho...damn.  How does it compare to the Slim?

The picture is from Famitsu.  And the different from the old PSP to the slim is hardly any for the screen.

I hope that increased contrast is not just due to new LCD but also a glass screen.  Also, why won't Sony change the analog stick more dratiscally?  Every PSP owner I know thinks the nub sucks.   

Yeah, I would have liked it to be closer to the screen so I didn't have to cramp my thumb to use it, or even just a redesign of it to make it like the Tapwave Zodiac.  I mean, they did fix the D-pad, so I don't get why they aren't fixing the nub.

[Smooth Groove]

Some new comparison pics.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=195939



This pic is weird.  The old PSP actually looks a little bit more natural despite being less vibrant. 

Hopefully, the enhanced contrast is not due to some bullshit, dynamic contrast enhancer.  I hate that crap on TVs and always turn it off. 

[JustinP]

new screen definitely looks better.  but i'm happy with my launch PSP. 

[cool breeze]

In that picture of the woman, the top one does look more natural, but that is assuming she is pale.

[JustinP]

a single comparison alone is fucking pointless when we don't see the source image itself. 

but judging from multiple comparisons, the new screen does look better. 

[cool breeze]

  Singstar Queen 

[youtube=425,350]ZVa0B3cjLII[/youtube]

I can't believe I missed this at the conference.

[Kagari]

I'm so glad I waited to get a second PSP now.
More colors now, please!

[Smooth Groove]

not sure how impressive the new shot is - certainly not as "oh my" as the Strawberries picture, then again - doesn't look like the best photo in the world.

I guess we'll see this at TGS ... or is this due to hit before then?

If you go, please check to see if the new screen is using a dynamic contrast enhancer. 

[chronovore]

Seriously though, Singstar Queen - whatever - why is there no Queen in Rock Band?

[chronovore]

A 2nd analog nub would not make for a consistent control scheme across their SKUs; nobody'd design a game with it meaningfully used, because it'd only sell to the subset with the 2nd nub.

[chronovore]

Wouldn't that be admitting that the PSP is a port machine?

I'm only being half snarky; seriously, the PSP is supposedly it's own little dreadnought of joy, and ports of PS2 stuff were pooh-pooh'd at the outset. Now I'm suspecting that Sony's happy if people develop for it at all, which doesn't make any sense to me -- doesn't it have half the audience of the monstrously successful DS?

[Cormacaroni]

In Japan, PSP seems to the machine which is finally waking people up to network gaming. The hook seems to be that it's less threatening to play with people in the same room as you - all the ads for Monster Hunter etc show happy people in various social situations whipping out their PSPs for a lengthy epic loot raid. All is co-op, all is "no, no, YOU take the armour".

[cool breeze]

A second nub that can change function between D-pad control, left nub, or face buttons would already be a tremendous help.  I am actually still waiting for consoles/handhelds to give you the option to change controls based in the hardware menu to how you want, basically like how a PC does it.

[JustinP]

A second nub that can change function between D-pad control, left nub, or face buttons would already be a tremendous help.  I am actually still waiting for consoles/handhelds to give you the option to change controls based in the hardware menu to how you want, basically like how a PC does it.

good idea

[cool breeze]

Someone already hacked his PSP to do something similar. 

[youtube=425,350]eHq_PWIE9A8[/youtube]

While it does look a bit awkward since there is no sensitivity for aiming, they can get around it by having new games support both this and the old method; or if you can customize controls, just do it the whole Turok method, except make it so that the left nub is replaced with button controls and the right nub has the functions of the left nub.

[CurseoftheGods]

I really hope the new one is hackable.