Looks like it's Biden

[treythemovie]

But Mr. Obama was seeking a running mate with whom he would be comfortable governing for four or eight years, a bit of advice Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts had given him.

lol Edwards


And personally I would be pretty shocked if a few of the other shortlisters didn't end up in Obama's cabinet

[Mandark]

After some quickie research it looks like Biden is actually good on pocketbook issues and has a 90% rating from the ACLU.  Plus he's co-written the mental health parity act (which is named after Paul Wellstone so it must be awesome) and seems decent on gay issues.

Mark Schmitt says Biden works hard to master the issues so maybe I sold him short on his interest in the domestic side.

But the Iraq war vote and the bankruptcy bill stick in my craw and I still say he's too hawkish.

[treythemovie]

My mom told me she isn't voting for Obama now because of the Clarence Thomas thing.


Can I have her deported even though shes a US citizen?

She wasn't going to vote for him in the first place then. People who cite things like that as a reason to vote/not vote for someone are people who were just looking for an excuse to validate their baseless decision.

[TVC15]

My mom told me she isn't voting for Obama now because of the Clarence Thomas thing.


Can I have her deported even though shes a US citizen?

That's the reason I'm not voting for him now, either.  Slapping Thomas in the face was transitively the equivalent of slapping Long Dong Silver in the face.  smh, Obama, smh.

Plus Biden keeps sending me creepy text messages and pictures of down there.  I knew I shouldn't have given my phone number to the campaign. 

[Van Cruncheon]

clarence thomas *is* an awful sc judge, though. obama is spot-on. the only place obama mis-stepped was in suggesting that scalia was smarter. frankly, there is no judge stupider than scalia -- sorry, obama.

[APF]

Sounds like that wasn't a prediction, it was a promise.

[laesperanzapaz]

You know, in the back of my mind I kinda wish Mccain wins.

The hilarity will be without precedent.

[TVC15]

You know, in the back of my mind I kinda wish Mccain wins.

The hilarity will be without precedent.

The GAF meltdown would be incredible.

[Van Cruncheon]

one week of lulz; four years of tearz

[Tauntaun]

one week of lulz; four years of tearz

THERE WAZ ANUTHER CANDIDATE!  HONEST!

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[Fresh Prince]

Being cynical I'd want McCain to win, he'll have a tough four years ahead of him with the economy, Russia, Iraq and Afghanistan. With that the American public would interpret Republican = failure for along time to come.

[Positive Touch]

they should've already got that message after the last eight years, but most people are just too dumb to learn

[Boogie]

Being cynical I'd want McCain to win, he'll have a tough four years ahead of him with the economy, Russia, Iraq and Afghanistan. With that the American public would interpret Republican = failure for along time to come.

Beaten to it by Positive touch.

If McCain wins, it would mean that 8 years of Bush were not enough to make the American people interpret Republican = failure, then I highly doubt that four years of McCain would do the trick.

[Fresh Prince]

IMO the last eight years were really about Bush's inadequacy not the Republican party as a whole. Having McCain fail would indite the whole Republican party as something fundamentally wrong with their philosophy. It may get people to actually think about what the Republican party stands for.

[gibletsngravy]

I'm not a fan. Biden is the one responsible for the creation of the Drug Tsar, and he was one of the main supporters of the R.A.V.E. act. His positions on drug policy have set the country back decades.

Not far enough. Kill up all dem druggies.

[Mandark]

clarence thomas *is* an awful sc judge, though. obama is spot-on. the only place obama mis-stepped was in suggesting that scalia was smarter. frankly, there is no judge stupider than scalia -- sorry, obama.

I've read/heard from a few people I respect that Scalia's very sharp when he's ruling on a case where no reactionary social values are at stake.  Stuff like "you should read his stuff on interstate trucking regulation!"  Nobody says stuff like that about Thomas.

OTOH a lot of liberals bend over backwards praising Scalia's (completely fictional) intellectual honesty and consistency.  I think there's an urge to reassure themselves that they're unbiased by singling out Worthy Opponents, even if those people are just wrong, dumb, and/or dishonest.  I keep hearing about how Newt Gingrich is a details-oriented wonk and every time I initially think the person is joking.


Speaking of the SCOTUS, Biden was chair of the Judiciary Committee when Bork got stonewalled.  Good on him.

[Boogie]

IMO the last eight years were really about Bush's inadequacy not the Republican party as a whole. Having McCain fail would indite the whole Republican party as something fundamentally wrong with their philosophy. It may get people to actually think about what the Republican party stands for.

Most unlikely.

I'm not a fan. Biden is the one responsible for the creation of the Drug Tsar, and he was one of the main supporters of the R.A.V.E. act. His positions on drug policy have set the country back decades.

Not far enough. Kill up all dem druggies.

 

[Phoenix Dark]

one week of lulz; four years of tearz

Pretty much. Perhaps the best thing to hope for is a Dewey Defeats Truman error for the first few hours.

[Mandark]

Most unlikely.

Word.  Bush is completely emblematic of the current GOP philosophy.  McCain's doing okay because he managed to create an independent brand.  Republicans aren't going to do well this cycle and the long term demographic trends ain't pretty.

If Obama wins and the Dems pick up a few Senate seats I'm going to make an insufferably gloating "Who will save you now, GOP?" thread in which I'll mock Gingrich, Ross Douthat, Reihan Salam, and all the other would-be saviors with their vague and unrealistic blueprints for a comeback.

[Phoenix Dark]

You forgot someone

[Mandark]

Unlike the the armchair campaigners  I mentioned he actually has a following.

I'd like to see Huckabee get the nomination in 2012 and start to really fracture the party.  I probably shouldn't say that in case he wins, though.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Huckabee is a fading star.  In a couple years, the religious right will have found a new savior to start hyping up for 2012 (assuming McCain does not win).  Although I would love to see him run as an independent to fracture the GOP, neutralizing the chance the religious right ever has of having a big hand in a major political party again, and to see the GOP in chaos.

A lot of people are misunderstanding the Republican base.  I remember a soldier telling Ann Coulter at a rally I went to that he would rather take a bullet than have John Kerry be the President.  Feelings about Kerry and 2004 set aside, there are a lot of far right wingers out there that would feel the same way about Obama, even if McCain were to absolutely obliterate the economy.  They may have disliked Bush but to vote for a Democrat would be sacrilegious.  So there won't be a "changing of opinions" if McCain fucks things up even worse.

[Mandark]

I don't think anybody is expecting the freepers and dittoheads to have a revelation.  Politics is done on the margins and even a broken, loser party in the US would pull in 40% of the vote.

The GOP could have a rabid base in the tens of millions and still be relegated to the same status as the Tories in the UK the last decade.