Author Topic: In this thread we laugh at folks who hate gaming enough to buy a Wii (Read 8178 times)

Van Cruncheon · « **on:** August 05, 2006, 02:49:49 PM »

why pay for an Xbox 0.9

Bacon · « **Reply #1 on:** August 05, 2006, 02:54:24 PM »

I got it preordered.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #2 on:** August 05, 2006, 02:57:20 PM »

As do I. Sorry Drinky, but at least I'm getting Ultimate G&G so you can't totally hate me.

Ecrofirt · « **Reply #3 on:** August 05, 2006, 02:58:36 PM »

Eh, I'm getting one, but it's because I'm:
1) Too cheap to pay $60 for games in most cases
2) Not ever gonig to stomach a $600 PS3
3) Not getting any gaming out of my X360 premium. Dead Rising is the only game coming out for a long time that I'm even interested in.

On the rare occasions that I game, I might as well do it as cheaply as possible.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #4 on:** August 05, 2006, 03:09:16 PM »

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #5 on:** August 05, 2006, 03:11:14 PM »

:elf :elf :elf

Mondain · « **Reply #6 on:** August 05, 2006, 03:12:27 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on August 05, 2006, 02:49:49 PM

why pay for an Xbox 0.9

to have fun telling the world in details how much it fucking stinks

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #7 on:** August 05, 2006, 03:13:47 PM »

I can't hate a UGnG fan.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8 on:** August 05, 2006, 03:14:31 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on August 05, 2006, 03:13:47 PM

I can't hate a UGnG fan.

I alos love Diablo, so get on your knees.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #9 on:** August 05, 2006, 03:39:35 PM »

If that 711 promo is true and the Wii retails at $300, Nintendo can go fuck themselves. I really want a Wii, but come on: it's arguable that it's even worth half of $300.

xsarien · « **Reply #10 on:** August 05, 2006, 03:42:35 PM »

I'm getting one, primarily for the Genesis and Hudson stuff that's going to be on the virtual console. The GCN compatibility will also come in handy as my Cube died about 10 minutes into Metroid Prime 2 and I'd REALLY like to finish that.

I suppose the crazypants Waggle-powered games would be worth a try, but I'm still pretty skeptical.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #11 on:** August 05, 2006, 03:43:24 PM »

Sounds like your Gamecube did you a favor

Mondain · « **Reply #12 on:** August 05, 2006, 04:06:41 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 05, 2006, 03:39:35 PM

If that 711 promo is true and the Wii retails at $300, Nintendo can go fuck themselves. I really want a Wii, but come on: it's arguable that it's even worth half of $300.

that was surely an inflated price by 7/11

cloudwalking · « **Reply #13 on:** August 05, 2006, 05:20:48 PM »

I'm definitely getting Wii if it comes in pink.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14 on:** August 05, 2006, 05:26:47 PM »

For Willco? Aw, that's so cute!

cloudwalking · « **Reply #15 on:** August 05, 2006, 06:25:45 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 05, 2006, 05:26:47 PM

For Willco? Aw, that's so cute!

I think you have me confused with CrystalGemini.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #16 on:** August 05, 2006, 06:28:15 PM »

LOVE TRIANGLE EXPOSED!

xsarien · « **Reply #17 on:** August 05, 2006, 06:35:29 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 05, 2006, 06:28:15 PM

LOVE TRIANGLE EXPOSED!

I don't want to see Willco exposed.

rocketman · « **Reply #18 on:** August 05, 2006, 06:52:35 PM »

I only play games with this:

Wobedraggled · « **Reply #19 on:** August 05, 2006, 07:05:21 PM »

Backfire total.

Wii +2 here.

Upstairs and downstairs..

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #20 on:** August 05, 2006, 07:19:10 PM »

Quote from: rocketman on August 05, 2006, 06:52:35 PM

I only play games with this: (Image removed from quote.)

Well shit, the Wii has you covered. I'm sure it can handle that at 30fps

Cheebs · « **Reply #21 on:** August 05, 2006, 07:34:13 PM »

Quote from: rocketman on August 05, 2006, 06:52:35 PM

I only play games with this: (Image removed from quote.)

B/C + Wii equals you playing this on Wii:

etiolate · « **Reply #22 on:** August 05, 2006, 08:00:58 PM »

I won't buy anything at launch anymore, but I want my Metroid, Mario and...

RABBIDS

Matlock · « **Reply #23 on:** August 05, 2006, 08:20:31 PM »

gaming can go fuck itself

Fatghost28 · « **Reply #24 on:** August 05, 2006, 08:25:54 PM »

Don't worry Drinky, I'm on your side. Why pay 200+ for a machine worth maybe 120 at best, to play last gen games and more of the same tired Nintendo shit?

If Wii is a big success it will be terrible for gamers. :/ We may never get another console where the manufacturer takes a loss to give us cutting edge hardware at a mass market price.

Christopher · « **Reply #25 on:** August 05, 2006, 08:48:04 PM »

The Wii and its software does not interest me at all...at all.

The Shadow · « **Reply #26 on:** August 05, 2006, 08:56:05 PM »

I kind of doubt any real games will utilize the remote fully. Sounds more like mini games and stuff.

Virtual console, meh, that's what emulators are for.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #27 on:** August 05, 2006, 09:00:47 PM »

Quote from: Christopher on August 05, 2006, 08:48:04 PM

The Wii and its software does not interest me at all...at all.

Hey Chris I saw you on the train yesterday!

BobbyRobby · « **Reply #28 on:** August 06, 2006, 01:49:46 AM »

Can't wait for the Wii. Will buy at launch with moiney made from selling PS3s.

Mondain · « **Reply #29 on:** August 06, 2006, 01:58:18 AM »

I'm actually quite annoyed at the remote control scheme, can you still use the classic controller shell for every game? it's really neat-looking too

I don't give a damn about moving a remote around to execute actions, I just want to press buttons

Bacon · « **Reply #30 on:** August 06, 2006, 02:17:58 AM »

I'm surprised you're able to lift your arms at all.

Nick · « **Reply #31 on:** August 06, 2006, 04:32:42 AM »

I'll be getting a Wii.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #32 on:** August 06, 2006, 05:40:09 AM »

Wi is perfect when you consider that it creates an entirely new demographic. It's not impossible for a game console.

smiles-and-cries · « **Reply #33 on:** August 06, 2006, 06:01:37 AM »

Wii the only thing worth waiting for this Fall

Cheebs · « **Reply #34 on:** August 06, 2006, 09:58:50 AM »

Quote from: smiles-and-cries on August 06, 2006, 06:01:37 AM

Wii the only thing worth waiting for this Fall

Final Fantasy III and Yoshi's Island 2.

Cyanista · « **Reply #35 on:** August 06, 2006, 10:02:16 AM »

Ordered already. I have a daughter, and I really think the intuitive controls will help her get into gaming. . .more.

Plus it looks interesting. Much more so than the X1.5 or the ps3witty name about insane price goes here).

Thee Reverend Gary Davis · « **Reply #36 on:** August 06, 2006, 10:11:25 AM »

Quote from: Cyanista on August 06, 2006, 10:02:16 AM

Ordered already. I have a daughter, and I really think the intuitive controls will help her get into gaming. . .more.

Plus it looks interesting. Much more so than the X1.5 or the ps3witty name about insane price goes here).

I agree- I think it'll give me a chance to share my pasttime with non-gaming friends as well as giving me a new style of gaming. The only thing I'm worried about is a gamecube-style death.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #37 on:** August 06, 2006, 11:23:35 AM »

New style? More intuitive? It's a lateral shift in controls. Once the novelty of waving a wand instead of pressing a button or a direction wears off, you'll simply be left with a glitchier alternative to regular controls. It's a placebo, not a panacea, for your gaming ennui.

If your friends or family didn't want to play games previously, waggling a wand will no more entice them than pressing buttons did.

Cyanista · « **Reply #38 on:** August 06, 2006, 11:32:24 AM »

Why do you put a question mark after more intuitive? Obviously, since moving the controller is something most people do when they learn to play videogames. . .a controller that lets that work is going to be more intuitive.

I'm getting the Wii mainly for my 3 year old. Where's an eyerolling smiley when you need one?

smiles-and-cries · « **Reply #39 on:** August 06, 2006, 11:35:37 AM »

Wii =

X360 =

PS3 =

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #40 on:** August 06, 2006, 11:43:35 AM »

There's a big leap from observing n00b behavior to actually implementing software support for an arbitrary range of 3D motion in software such that flailing translates into something meaningful and is adequately compensated for. Chances are, their flailing will be just as much noise and there will be a fixed set of "correct" motions for Wii games that will need to be learned and mastered, or that a waggle will be treated identically to a button press (see: Red Steel).

Besides, which Wii launch title actually translates the typical flailing of a new gamer into gameplay technique? Even the Sonic game is sub-intuitive and relies on novelty controls.

Mondain · « **Reply #41 on:** August 06, 2006, 12:44:01 PM »

there, will be be able to control Wii games with this or is it strictly for the playback of GameCube & legacy games?

Cheebs · « **Reply #42 on:** August 06, 2006, 12:48:23 PM »

Quote from: Mondain on August 06, 2006, 12:44:01 PM

(Image removed from quote.)

there, will be be able to control Wii games with this or is it strictly for the playback of GameCube & legacy games?

Certain games like SSBB use it. Of course not all games will use it. It would make no sense for stuff like WarioWare and Wii Sports.

Much like the stylus on DS, certain games use, certain ones do not

Mondain · « **Reply #43 on:** August 06, 2006, 12:50:01 PM »

awwwww crap... I'm going to get Zelda on the GameCube then even if it's not widescreen... fuck moving a wand around...

the only Wii games I truly care for at this point are Super Mario Galaxy and Metal Slug Anthology, honestly

Cheebs · « **Reply #44 on:** August 06, 2006, 12:51:32 PM »

Quote from: Mondain on August 06, 2006, 12:50:01 PM

fuck moving a wand around...

you act shocked, where have you been the last two years? It's like being shocked that Nintendogs and Brain Age don't have the option to use the d-pad.

Mondain · « **Reply #45 on:** August 06, 2006, 12:52:45 PM »

well for a game of envergure such as Zelda at least I'd rather control the game normally

Cheebs · « **Reply #46 on:** August 06, 2006, 01:03:54 PM »

Quote from: Mondain on August 06, 2006, 12:52:45 PM

well for a game of envergure such as Zelda at least I'd rather control the game normally

Well that is coming to GameCube to so you're fine. But if someone expects WarioWare, Wii Sports, Metroid..etc to control normally then that is a bit silly to expect since those games were built around the controller.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #47 on:** August 06, 2006, 01:56:30 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on August 06, 2006, 11:43:35 AM

There's a big leap from observing n00b behavior to actually implementing software support for an arbitrary range of 3D motion in software such that flailing translates into something meaningful and is adequately compensated for. Chances are, their flailing will be just as much noise and there will be a fixed set of "correct" motions for Wii games that will need to be learned and mastered, or that a waggle will be treated identically to a button press (see: Red Steel).

Besides, which Wii launch title actually translates the typical flailing of a new gamer into gameplay technique? Even the Sonic game is sub-intuitive and relies on novelty controls.

Is there any way to convince you they could do small movements? The point is to have a more intuitive way to control what's happening in scenarios that we've all played a lot of times in games. You are more likely to create more action if you have a waggle wand, if you codify the button lay-out to make it logical then it'll be fun.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #48 on:** August 06, 2006, 02:20:40 PM »

I *know* it supports small movements. But what's the point of small movements relative to pressing on a stick or a button?

brawndolicious · « **Reply #49 on:** August 06, 2006, 02:23:59 PM »

It works without having the person have to sense the buttons.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #50 on:** August 06, 2006, 02:25:58 PM »

"sense the buttons" -- do you really wanna game with folks who can't figure out how to push a button to do an onscreen action?

brawndolicious · « **Reply #51 on:** August 06, 2006, 02:29:34 PM »

There are some games that just suck around buttons. That's really it. Don't you ever wonder "Do I really need a button for XYZ"?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #52 on:** August 06, 2006, 02:30:40 PM »

like what?

brawndolicious · « **Reply #53 on:** August 06, 2006, 02:33:58 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on August 06, 2006, 02:30:40 PM

like what?

Take God Of War for example, the square and triangle buttons difference is that one is a weak attack and the other is a strong attack. You wouldn't be able to use it well unless you memorized all your combos.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #54 on:** August 06, 2006, 02:38:14 PM »

how does waggling facilitate combo mechanics?

brawndolicious · « **Reply #55 on:** August 06, 2006, 02:42:30 PM »

You attack based on your angle to the person (control the camera with the wiimote) and you press buttons that say what whether you dodge, slash, shoot, etcetera. Think like Too Human but a lot quicker and hectic.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #56 on:** August 06, 2006, 02:47:49 PM »

That's more intuitive?

(seems to have button pressing involved nonetheless.)

brawndolicious · « **Reply #57 on:** August 06, 2006, 02:54:34 PM »

You can't simplify everything down to a swing.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #58 on:** August 06, 2006, 03:00:36 PM »

brawndolicious · « **Reply #59 on:** August 06, 2006, 03:03:12 PM »

I don't get that. Use words.

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Author Topic: In this thread we laugh at folks who hate gaming enough to buy a Wii (Read 8178 times)

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