Oh No You Didn't - Mercs 2

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

And I just bought it. :p

Sometimes it's nice having a Blockbuster 3 blocks away.

[MrAngryFace]

lol

[Van Cruncheon]

eurogamer is awesome because they expose the lies of ps3 graphic "superiority" and demonstrate the power of xenos

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Good lord this game is fugly.  It seems fun enough so far but man this one isn't winning any beauty contests.

[MrAngryFace]

I think if anything its pretty uneven. When the action is hot, it looks great, when nothing is going on well...

[duckman2000]

duckman, you aren't flying that flag of Eurogamer bias are you?  Take away the +1 for all UK games that they and Edge seem to give, and they are as decent as the rest.  And I adore their multiplatform roundups. 

I don't give a shit about any supposed "bias," but Eurogamer has brought up stuff in reviews that has been factually wrong. Ergo, Eurogamer can't be trusted.

Edge, though? lulz all around, irrespective of platform.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

I spent the last half hour working to finish a mission and the guy that I need to kill is stuck in a wall.  I can see his arms but I can't get to him.

*sigh*

Time to reboot.

[cool breeze]

I only had one mission breaking glitch so far, and that was when my jet ski got stuck under a dock.

And those Eurogamer quote sound like they are from a GTA4 review.  Mercs 2 is just more Mercs 1 with some minor changes.

[y2kev]

game shits on gta4 from great height

[TVC15]

I woulda bought it if Fry's had it for 50.

[chronovore]

Play-Asia confirmed the Asia version works on US/Canada systems. I am win.

[demi]

game shits on gta4 from great height

WOW what a revelation

[MrAngryFace]

Shits on FFTA2 as well!

[demi]

viz is a shithead

[pilonv1]

eurogamer says there are some QTE's demi

remember when this was considered a big PS3 exclusive?

Scratch another one off my Q4 list. will wait for the bargain bin

[demi]

Yeah I know theres QTEs, I saw it in some pics

I'll probably rent it down the road like I said. I'll get GameFly set up when I'm adjusted to the new place.

[dark1x]

supposedly, 360 version has a steadier frame rate. supposedly.

I would have thought that as well, but based on this video, it's hard to say.  These videos are never the most reliable when it comes to open world games, but the PS3 framerate is smoother throughout the video.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/39321.html

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

supposedly, 360 version has a steadier frame rate. supposedly.

I would have thought that as well, but based on this video, it's hard to say.  These videos are never the most reliable when it comes to open world games, but the PS3 framerate is smoother throughout the video.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/39321.html

lol @ the rock at the end

What a crock of shit.  I happened to be playing yesterday when I saw that comparison and I was at that exact area looking at the rock and I can tell you that the 360 version looks exactly like the PS3 one from that vid.  Looks like someone took a freeze frame right before the textures are fully loaded and they must've been pretty fucking quick about it 'cause I really don't notice it in the game.

Mercs 2 is an ugly, ugly game but it's equally ugly across both platforms.

[dark1x]

supposedly, 360 version has a steadier frame rate. supposedly.

I would have thought that as well, but based on this video, it's hard to say.  These videos are never the most reliable when it comes to open world games, but the PS3 framerate is smoother throughout the video.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/39321.html

lol @ the rock at the end

What a crock of shit.  I happened to be playing yesterday when I saw that comparison and I was at that exact area looking at the rock and I can tell you that the 360 version looks exactly like the PS3 one from that vid.  Looks like someone took a freeze frame right before the textures are fully loaded and they must've been pretty fucking quick about it 'cause I really don't notice it in the game.

Mercs 2 is an ugly, ugly game but it's equally ugly across both platforms.

I didn't mention the texture thing for just that reason.  I was making note of the boat segment demonstrated at the beginning of the video.  The 360 footage seemed to be stuttering along (ala GTA) while the PS3 footage was smooth.

Based on that and the fact that they had that rock texture as part of the comparison, it seems to me that the 360 version has more issues with streaming data.  That could very well be a problem with their XBOX360 or simply poor coding on the part of the developers.  You can see them moving the camera around initially during the low-res texture bit, so it's not as if they simply took a snapshot initially.

Really, the only thing I take away from that video is that the PS3 framerate seems to be perfectly fine.  The game is indeed pretty ugly on both platforms, however (which is a shame).

[MrAngryFace]

lol PS3 fans making stuff up

[y2kev]

supposedly, 360 version has a steadier frame rate. supposedly.

I would have thought that as well, but based on this video, it's hard to say.  These videos are never the most reliable when it comes to open world games, but the PS3 framerate is smoother throughout the video.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/39321.html

lol @ the rock at the end

What a crock of shit.  I happened to be playing yesterday when I saw that comparison and I was at that exact area looking at the rock and I can tell you that the 360 version looks exactly like the PS3 one from that vid.  Looks like someone took a freeze frame right before the textures are fully loaded and they must've been pretty fucking quick about it 'cause I really don't notice it in the game.

Mercs 2 is an ugly, ugly game but it's equally ugly across both platforms.

I posted about this on GAF...

Ugh, I knew GT was garbage with this but now I have proof.

They didn't let the friggin texture load on the 360!



and a yuge comparison if you want to see

http://www.catanzareti.com/images/Kevin/rockfullsize.jpg

GT is the worst site on the internet. People like them because they have pretty moving pictures.

[dark1x]

I posted about this on GAF...

Ugh, I knew GT was garbage with this but now I have proof.

They didn't let the friggin texture load on the 360!

*sigh*

Did you even read what I wrote?  I only posted the video in order to demonstrate that the framerate in the PS3 version was indeed fine.

I highly doubt GT was "out to get" the 360 version considering that situations just like this have cropped up in favor of the 360 versions in the past (where the two were on equal footing in regards to something specific but their video demonstrated an instance where the PS3 version appeared inferior).  I'm sure the creation process of these videos involves lots of playtime on both versions of the games while looking for any differences.  Do you really think they are creating these videos with the intention of slamming a specific version?  As of late, most comparisons have been almost completely lacking in differences of any sort.

So, why exactly do you believe they are the worst site on the internet?  They clearly put a lot of effort into many of their pieces and most of them are not aimed at "fueling the console war".

[y2kev]

That is my post direct from GAF in response to Hitler.

No, I didn't read what you wrote. I was not even replying to you.

[dark1x]

That is my post direct from GAF in response to Hitler.

No, I didn't read what you wrote. I was not even replying to you.

I still don't see how GT is the worst gaming site on the internet...

[y2kev]

That is my post direct from GAF in response to Hitler.

No, I didn't read what you wrote. I was not even replying to you.

I still don't see how GT is the worst gaming site on the internet...

because their writers are shitty and their reviews are shitty and they have shitty forums

[dark1x]

That is my post direct from GAF in response to Hitler.

No, I didn't read what you wrote. I was not even replying to you.

I still don't see how GT is the worst gaming site on the internet...

because their writers are shitty and their reviews are shitty and they have shitty forums

They seem to put a lot of effort into a great number of pieces, however.  Those retrospectives, for instance, are pretty well designed and generally free of errors.  The fact that they ARE video based does indeed improvement the standing of the site as they tend to do a better job showing off various games.  The piece that you are complaining about doesn't even involve writing of any sort either.

Virtually every mainstream site is paired up with really shitty forums, though.

[y2kev]

I'm not complaining about it! I don't give a shit about their console comparison articles. I was complaining about the one shot.

The retrospectives are nice for being centrally-focused locations for video of old games in franchises I like. They are so restricted by marketing it is a little hard to believe. Their Final Fantasy retrospective should have had a Square-Enix logo on it.

[dark1x]

I'm not complaining about it! I don't give a shit about their console comparison articles. I was complaining about the one shot.

The retrospectives are nice for being centrally-focused locations for video of old games in franchises I like. They are so restricted by marketing it is a little hard to believe. Their Final Fantasy retrospective should have had a Square-Enix logo on it.

Well, yeah, I'd imagine they ARE somewhat sponsored, but that doesn't mean the information isn't accurate and/or interesting either.  They've gone into surprising detail with the Star Wars retrospective, for instance.

[Kestastrophe]

They seem to put a lot of effort into a great number of pieces, however.  Those retrospectives, for instance, are pretty well designed and generally free of errors.  The fact that they ARE video based does indeed improvement the standing of the site as they tend to do a better job showing off various games. 

Hell yeah. As a big fan of documentaries, I love GT's retrospectives and other historical pieces. They even seemed to make some kind of sense out of the Zelda timeline. I think that they are all very professional and are the closest thing to authority on the subjects they choose to cover.

[Mrbob]

This game is OK.  I need to get more time into it (only an hour so far on PStrips) but it almost feels too much like Mercs 1 for my liking.

As in its still great fun, but this game hardly feels evolved over the original.

[chronovore]

I had a friend who quit Mercs 1 because there were a couple missions which glitched and could not be finished, like your guy-in-the-wall one. He had a target have a whole building collapse /around/ him, and couldn't verify to end the mission one way or the other. No death photo, no ability to knock out and grab. Just stuck in the rubble.

Oddly, in my play through I never encountered a single bug, only a multitude of MOMENTS OF AWESOMENESS. I had a target tied up and on the ground, only to take out an enemy helicopter which fell on him. The game feels like Schwarzenegger's COMMANDO, in all the right ways.

[Mrbob]

Fuck, I almost wish I would have rented this game on 360 instead.  PS3 version has a nice long 10 minute install (2.7GB) and I'm not a big fan of shooters with the PS3 pad.  Its OK...but I prefer the 360 pad more for any type of shooting game.  Plus I hear there are issues with voice chat in co op.  Of course in my experience with PS3 gaming this year many games have voice chat issues.

[y2kev]

Fuck, I almost wish I would have rented this game on 360 instead. 

to be repeated after buying/renting every game  :'(

[Mrbob]

Actually I'll probably just send this back in a couple days and keep on playing co op Earth Defense Force 17, which I got for 12 bucks and is better than Mercs 2. 

[Mrbob]

Oh and can I just steal the 360 pad and Xbox Live and use them on PS3?  Then I would be fine. 

PS3 reliability + Blu Ray + Xbox Live (-fee) + 360 pad = perfect system

[chronovore]

What's wrong with the DualShock 3? I mean, the DS3 and 360 pad are essentially the same set of buttons and sticks, except for those spongy triggers on the DS3. And the d-pad on 360's sucks balls.

[MrAngryFace]

I WILL TAKE YOU SONY FANS DOWN! CUT HIS MIC! CUT IT!



















NO SPIN ZONE

[duckman2000]

What's wrong with the DualShock 3? I mean, the DS3 and 360 pad are essentially the same set of buttons and sticks, except for those spongy triggers on the DS3. And the d-pad on 360's sucks balls.

As do the shoulder buttons. And hell, the face buttons. It does have mighty nice triggers though, and while I don't care so much about the placement of the thumbsticks, the fact that they are ridged and concave puts them quite a bit ahead.

Playbox Ultra in 2010

[TVC15]

I'm digging this.  I can see why the reviews are kinda meh.  It seems like this has been in development forever, and amidst all the Pandemic buyout shit, hopes were high.  What we got was a very incremental improvement that appears to have not even tried to reach the AAA level of games.  I like the game, but I can't help but feel that Pandemic could have done more.

Also, remember the OG screenshots that looked awesome?  What the heck happened?  This isn't a bad looking game, but it's certainly not impressive.

That is my post direct from GAF in response to Hitler.

No, I didn't read what you wrote. I was not even replying to you.

I still don't see how GT is the worst gaming site on the internet...

because their writers are shitty and their reviews are shitty and they have shitty forums

Aren't you a 1up fan?  If you are, you're hard pressed to have the right to judge shitty writing.

[bork]

Yep, this feels like a last-gen game in every way, but it's not too bad.  I don't think it's a keeper though.

[pilonv1]

can someone compare this to Just Cause? HSMP I'm looking at you , xfe too

[dark1x]

Also, remember the OG screenshots that looked awesome?  What the heck happened?  This isn't a bad looking game, but it's certainly not impressive.

The original shots look very much the same as the final product, actually (perhaps even a tad worse).  Here's a couple shots from 2006...

can someone compare this to Just Cause?

It's pretty different.  Visually, Just Cause is more attractive than Mercs 2 from high altitudes, but perhaps less appealing when wandering around on the ground.  One important distinction is the complete lack of destructible scenery in Just Cause.  You can't destroy ANYTHING.  Mercs 2 is quite the opposite in that regard.

[y2kev]

I'm digging this.  I can see why the reviews are kinda meh.  It seems like this has been in development forever, and amidst all the Pandemic buyout shit, hopes were high.  What we got was a very incremental improvement that appears to have not even tried to reach the AAA level of games.  I like the game, but I can't help but feel that Pandemic could have done more.

Also, remember the OG screenshots that looked awesome?  What the heck happened?  This isn't a bad looking game, but it's certainly not impressive.

That is my post direct from GAF in response to Hitler.

No, I didn't read what you wrote. I was not even replying to you.

I still don't see how GT is the worst gaming site on the internet...

because their writers are shitty and their reviews are shitty and they have shitty forums

Aren't you a 1up fan?  If you are, you're hard pressed to have the right to judge shitty writing.

I like 1up's media stuff. I don't usually put any faith in their reviews, whether its from loli humor lover Parish to "it is, therefore it is an A+" Suttner.

My favorite reviews are Eurogamer.

[duckman2000]

My favorite reviews are Eurogamer.

I used to think that, until that Hailstorm bullshit.

[y2kev]

My favorite reviews are Eurogamer.

I used to think that, until that Hailstorm bullshit.

What happened? Note that I don't agree with every review Eurogamer writes, but I find them to generally be witty and concise and enjoyable. You can't say the same for IGN, I guess.

[demi]

Demo on XBL for rich gold users

[GilloD]

I had to quit playing this. It's incredibly difficult in SP and the missions are fucking exhaustively long.

[demi]

Demo turned me off, I had no idea what I was doing at all. No thanks.

[MrAngryFace]

difficult in single player? What are you on about? Hell, one of the characters abilities is completely overpowered. Running so fast you can chase cars down on foot lol. Most of the time you can sprint strafe a .50 cal placement and jump in to punch the guy in the face.

[Sho Nuff]

Jeezus the Jumping Car level is WAY too long

[chronovore]

I had to quit playing this. It's incredibly difficult in SP and the missions are fucking exhaustively long.

If you play co-op, you can revive your partner pretty simply. Add me if you want to give it a shot, I'm playing this most nights after 10pm, and from about 9-10 a.m  Japan time.

Jeezus the Jumping Car level is WAY too long

Agreed; I was doing great and cleared it on the first try, but I was stunned at how near-to-timeout I was by the time I got back to the base.

And I get to try it all over again, because apparently playing co-op in your game while using my existing savegame data overwrites the progress I made in my game with the progress we made in yours. Or something. I didn't get any of the challenges we cleared together, but suddenly I don't have a mechanic in my side room anymore... 

[MrAngryFace]

I had to quit playing this. It's incredibly difficult in SP and the missions are fucking exhaustively long.

If you play co-op, you can revive your partner pretty simply. Add me if you want to give it a shot, I'm playing this most nights after 10pm, and from about 9-10 a.m  Japan time.

Jeezus the Jumping Car level is WAY too long

Agreed; I was doing great and cleared it on the first try, but I was stunned at how near-to-timeout I was by the time I got back to the base.

And I get to try it all over again, because apparently playing co-op in your game while using my existing savegame data overwrites the progress I made in my game with the progress we made in yours. Or something. I didn't get any of the challenges we cleared together, but suddenly I don't have a mechanic in my side room anymore... 

I didnt have this problem playing co-op with a friend who just got the game, but the game has been reported as kind of glitchy.

[chronovore]

Ah... it turns out I get to cement my rep as village idiot to Evilbore: I think I got the mechanic as Mattias, then restarted as Mui, and hadn't yet completed the "get mechanic" mission as Mui... So -- not a glitch.

However, Sho Nuff and I played a longish bout tonight and managed to get him stuck in the terrain, planted more firmly than a tree, in the race mission -- the one where you get the mechanic. Between starting us in different spots, limiting the distance we can separate from each other, a time limit, spiking Sho Nuff into "immovable object" territory, and the car's spongy Havok fizziks joi, we failed a mission five times that I passed the first try as Mattias.

So, yeah, the game's not perfect but I'm still having more fun than the reviews credit the game for, and more overall fun than GTA IV.

[chronovore]

I am still loving this game, glitches and all. As I've progressed further in the game, it's approaching the same feel that the first one had: "Here's the base setup, and these are your obstacles. How do you want to solve this problem?"

Just awesome.

Sho Nuff tells me now that I've unlocked the Chinese and Allied Nations factions, the missions are going to kick my ass immediately. I'm up for co-op play, where you can revive your partner, if anyone's up for it.

"I don't need a plan, I've got moxie... And guns."

[GilloD]

I am still loving this game, glitches and all. As I've progressed further in the game, it's approaching the same feel that the first one had: "Here's the base setup, and these are your obstacles. How do you want to solve this problem?"

Just awesome.

Sho Nuff tells me now that I've unlocked the Chinese and Allied Nations factions, the missions are going to kick my ass immediately. I'm up for co-op play, where you can revive your partner, if anyone's up for it.

"I don't need a plan, I've got moxie... And guns."

I
d be up for it. Gamertag: GilloD

[demi]

They're releasing DLC for this (needed a reason to post it)

GilloD: there's region issues with online, you probably cant play with him. but the DLC is supposed to allow region-free gaming.

[MrAngryFace]

They're releasing DLC for this (needed a reason to post it)

GilloD: there's region issues with online, you probably cant play with him. but the DLC is supposed to allow region-free gaming.

Any other news on what the DLC is offering? MY X360 gaming routine has been completely destroyed by getting a PC upgrade. Im going to hunker down with Vesperia this weekend and finish it tho.

[demi]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=26614622&tag=sidebar;title;3

[MrAngryFace]

thanks

[chronovore]

They're releasing DLC for this (needed a reason to post it)

GilloD: there's region issues with online, you probably cant play with him. but the DLC is supposed to allow region-free gaming.

I was wondering about that; is it for PS3 regions only? I've been playing with a guy in Tokyo, and a guy in the USA, so I've not yet had a problem.

GilloD - Added!