Author Topic: Oh No You Didn't - Mercs 2 (Read 9678 times)

demi · « **on:** August 30, 2008, 02:40:33 AM »

http://www.pandemicstudios.com/mercenaries/audio/Oh_No_Full_Length.mp3

This shit's funny... apparently from the commercial

Might have to rent the game now

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1 on:** August 30, 2008, 02:59:16 AM »

Mercs are hardcore, you better pay them what you owe them.

bork · « **Reply #2 on:** August 30, 2008, 04:28:00 AM »

I like what I've seen of the game. Asian version is $45, ordered it last week.

cool breeze · « **Reply #3 on:** August 30, 2008, 10:04:15 AM »

I am going out today to see if they will sell it to me early today instead of tomorrow. Either way, I am excited to play it a lot before IU.

chronovore · « **Reply #4 on:** August 30, 2008, 10:45:17 AM »

Whisky Tango Foxtrot - it's out this weekend and there are no reviews available? 1up, gamespot, ign -- nothing aggregated at metacritic.
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/mercenaries2worldinflames

Mrbob · « **Reply #5 on:** August 30, 2008, 12:01:16 PM »

Hopefully my copy shows up today in the mail. Renting it from Gamerang since its distribution center is only a state away.

Seeing as reviews are still embargoed doesn't give me much hope. Publishers only do this when reviews are luke warm.

Tabasco · « **Reply #6 on:** August 30, 2008, 12:20:50 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on August 30, 2008, 10:45:17 AM

Whisky Tango Foxtrot - it's out this weekend and there are no reviews available? 1up, gamespot, ign -- nothing aggregated at metacritic.
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/mercenaries2worldinflames

Same thing happened with Tiger Woods. EA seems to be more aggressive with its NDAs now. In dfyb fashion, the videos make this game look like a 7.5-8 type of game.

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #7 on:** August 30, 2008, 02:09:55 PM »

I've been singing this song ever since the commercial first aired

you OWE MMMMEEEEEEEEEEE

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #8 on:** August 30, 2008, 11:13:57 PM »

Gamestop called me tonight so im going in tomorrow to pick itup

cool breeze · « **Reply #9 on:** August 30, 2008, 11:16:59 PM »

Anyone buying it tomorrow wanna do co-op right away?

All I request is that I play the black man.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #10 on:** August 31, 2008, 02:53:11 AM »

Is there gonna be a demo for this? I never played the first one.

Tabasco · « **Reply #11 on:** August 31, 2008, 10:33:09 AM »

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/902/902767p1.html

7.9 from IGN, and that's the exclusive

Shit AI, game killing bugs, bad mission design. You take fall damage if you run down a hill

duckman2000 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 31, 2008, 10:33:35 AM »

God damn it

Any word on differences between versions?

Tabasco · « **Reply #13 on:** August 31, 2008, 10:54:31 AM »

Nothing mentioned. The PS2 version is the exact same game content wise. The 360/PS3 just have higher rez textures and nicer explosions. I'd be shocked if there's any major difference between the two.

Mrbob · « **Reply #14 on:** August 31, 2008, 11:27:46 AM »

Damn it there never should have been a PS2 version made.

Nothing like getting a PS2 port up in 2008. My copy didn't arrive yesterday, so it won't be here till tuesday. Anyone want to co op (PS3) let me know.

cool breeze · « **Reply #15 on:** August 31, 2008, 11:49:23 AM »

I just picked up the 360 version. If anyone wants to do co-op, just drop in or something if you see me online.

Beezy · « **Reply #16 on:** August 31, 2008, 11:53:35 AM »

Quote from: Tabasco on August 31, 2008, 10:33:09 AM

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/902/902767p1.html

7.9 from IGN, and that's the exclusive

Shit AI, game killing bugs, bad mission design. You take fall damage if you run down a hill

duckman2000 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 31, 2008, 12:24:34 PM »

Quote from: Mrbob on August 31, 2008, 11:27:46 AM

Damn it there never should have been a PS2 version made.

Nothing like getting a PS2 port up in 2008. My copy didn't arrive yesterday, so it won't be here till tuesday. Anyone want to co op (PS3) let me know.

Barring any serious differences between versions, I'd be getting the PS3 version, but I'll wait for a few more reviews. I want the destruction though, so I may just ignore the bug warnings.

Tabasco · « **Reply #18 on:** August 31, 2008, 12:53:59 PM »

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3169692&p=37

B-. Nick Suttner though, so knock about 2 letters off that for real score.

Grecco · « **Reply #19 on:** August 31, 2008, 01:06:26 PM »

Is there something Nick doesnt like

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #20 on:** August 31, 2008, 01:12:10 PM »

supposedly, 360 version has a steadier frame rate. supposedly.

cool breeze · « **Reply #21 on:** August 31, 2008, 01:36:16 PM »

I got the 360 version, and if the PS3 version uses the analog buttons when driving instead of the on/off the 360 has, I think that might actually help a lot. Driving a fast vehicle is a pain when it goes 0 to 100 in less than a second.

I am enjoying it so far.

Wolf Gang · « **Reply #22 on:** August 31, 2008, 06:36:43 PM »

Wow, so this game is mediocre, at best?

Looks like EA got less than what they bargained for when they bought Pandemic out.

Good, that's what EA gets.

TVC15 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 31, 2008, 07:43:55 PM »

Quote from: Wolf Gang on August 31, 2008, 06:36:43 PM

Wow, so this game is mediocre, at best?

Looks like EA got less than what they bargained for when they bought Pandemic out.

Good, that's what EA gets.

Well, it sounds like it's more of the same more than it is mediocre. I suspect that in some ways, the content identical PS2 version held back the next gen versions. I knew this wouldn't end up being great when the hype died down for it months before release. Now, I just want to know if it's at least as good as the original.

cool breeze · « **Reply #24 on:** August 31, 2008, 09:12:27 PM »

Achievements in this game are a joke. Unless the hidden ones are crazy, most are pretty damn simple. You get 50 for just doing co-op.

bork · « **Reply #25 on:** August 31, 2008, 09:22:37 PM »

So is this game a port-up from the PS2 version? I have read conflicting information...some say it's a port-up, others say the PS2 version was developed by someone else and re-uses Mercs 1 assets.

cool breeze · « **Reply #26 on:** August 31, 2008, 09:23:26 PM »

For just going into someone else's game, or them going into your's, you get those points.

Quote from: lyte edge on August 31, 2008, 09:22:37 PM

So is this game a port-up from the PS2 version? I have read conflicting information...some say it's a port-up, others say the PS2 version was developed by someone else and re-uses Mercs 1 assets.

Graphically it looks decent at points, and bad at others. Textures are ugly, and there is a lot of pop in, but the frame rate is smooth and some effects (like leaves and shit like that) look pretty nice. I would say that if it was a port-up from the PS2, it is a much better job than the ones seen at the 360's launch with games like Gun.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #27 on:** August 31, 2008, 09:29:26 PM »

Any new testimonials regarding differences between versions? I think I need this game, ugliness and bugs be damned. But I don't want to get stuck with the lesser version of a crappy effort.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #28 on:** August 31, 2008, 09:29:45 PM »

I like this game, A- easy achievements, B-shit blows up good

cool breeze · « **Reply #29 on:** August 31, 2008, 09:32:41 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on August 31, 2008, 09:29:26 PM

Any new testimonials regarding differences between versions? I think I need this game, ugliness and bugs be damned. But I don't want to get stuck with the lesser version of a crappy effort.

Guy who reviewed it for 1up said the PS3 version has faster loading and looks slightly better, but this game probably won't look great either way.

Quote from: MrAngryFace on August 31, 2008, 09:29:45 PM

I like this game, A- easy achievements, B-shit blows up good

How much have you played?

I want to join your game and get the other multiplayer achievements, but I would need to blow shit up for that.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #30 on:** August 31, 2008, 09:36:18 PM »

I've always loved the PS3's no AA + shimmering somehow looking better.

Tabasco · « **Reply #31 on:** August 31, 2008, 10:01:49 PM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on August 31, 2008, 09:36:18 PM

I've always loved the PS3's no AA + shimmering somehow looking better.

I prefer the "better sound b/c PS3 has 7.1 LPCM" reviews, as if the sound files went into 256 MB of RAM without ever being compressed.

FatalT · « **Reply #32 on:** August 31, 2008, 10:03:19 PM »

Quote from: Tabasco on August 31, 2008, 10:01:49 PM

Quote from: MrAngryFace on August 31, 2008, 09:36:18 PM
I've always loved the PS3's no AA + shimmering somehow looking better.

I prefer the "better sound b/c PS3 has 7.1 LPCM" reviews, as if the sound files went into 256 MB of RAM without ever being compressed.

I prefer "BETTAR CAUSE ITS HAS TEH UNCHARTEDS!!!!111!!1 :kittonrawr"

cool breeze · « **Reply #33 on:** August 31, 2008, 10:49:46 PM »

If it wasn't for that stupid viral achievement, I could probably get them all by tomorrow. I am surprised by how simple they all are. I wouldn't expect it from this type of game where they could have had creative ones.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #34 on:** August 31, 2008, 10:52:56 PM »

Yeah its probably a better 40 dollar game than 60 dollar game but I WILL SAY THIS. Ive already had more fun with IT, than GTA4

cool breeze · « **Reply #35 on:** August 31, 2008, 10:55:34 PM »

I don't know if I would exactly agree or not, but it certainly gives you a lot more to do...uhh, I mean 'interesting' things to do. There hasn't been any good mission yet, so it fails on that front, but blowing up stuff is fun. It helps that the shooting is 1000 times better.

Blowing up buildings > going bowling.

And playing this really makes me want Just Cause 2 or Saints Row 2...I really don't know why.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #36 on:** August 31, 2008, 10:57:04 PM »

Dont have to save character I hate over and over? Check. Cars handle better? Not by much, but Check. I ACTUALLY get to go on a rampage? Check. Horrible one-liners? Check!

cool breeze · « **Reply #37 on:** August 31, 2008, 11:02:12 PM »

The one-liners are great. The best is like "hey guy on the MG, how would you like to get carpet bombed?" or something like that. That is actually the only tolerable one, and it is repeated dozens of times. I wish I picked the black guy instead of the Swedish guy, but the faster health recovery is worth it.

And the car handling would be much better if they let you use the triggers.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #38 on:** August 31, 2008, 11:21:18 PM »

I picked asian british accent lady, its pretty lol.

You can at least use the trigger for the handbreak, using the button isn that big a deal.

cool breeze · « **Reply #39 on:** August 31, 2008, 11:33:51 PM »

The vehicles that I have problems with are the motorcycles since they are so damn fast.

And there is an achievement where you literally just hold down A+X in a car to get.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #40 on:** August 31, 2008, 11:36:27 PM »

The old motorcycles are better than the crotch rockets thats for sure

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #41 on:** September 01, 2008, 01:10:19 AM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on August 31, 2008, 10:52:56 PM

Ive already had more fun with IT, than GTA4

That's like saying that saying that something is better than eating a bag of nails.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #42 on:** September 01, 2008, 01:14:58 AM »

GTA4 got perfect scores! whadda ya mean?!?!??!

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #43 on:** September 01, 2008, 01:16:20 AM »

Didn't it win an Oscar too? I think I remember hearing something about that.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #44 on:** September 01, 2008, 01:17:30 AM »

*sob*

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #45 on:** September 01, 2008, 02:43:27 AM »

PC version should be pretty safe, Merc2 isnt pushin anything crazy

chronovore · « **Reply #46 on:** September 01, 2008, 03:25:06 AM »

How bad is the AI? It's not like Mercernaries 1 had stunning A.I. - they just threw a lot of baddies at you.

I'll be surprised if the controls can't be re-mapped to use the analog triggers for Accelerate and Decelerate...

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #47 on:** September 01, 2008, 04:55:21 AM »

AI can be a real hassle, especially when youre trying to capture the high value targets. I managed to capture him and I was lugging him around but I still had troops in pursuit and some RPG fuck in the background keeping my chopper from landing long enough to pick up the target. Had to put the guy down and stalk the remaining troops then used my last RPG round to take out mr missle fuck.

Its a fun game, but ive only put 3 hours into it and its saying 19%, gonna be a short but fun ride :/

Still, C4 packs are awesommmmme.

chronovore · « **Reply #48 on:** September 01, 2008, 10:00:54 AM »

You know, if it's just more of the same thing that made the first one great, they already beat GTA IV in my book.

cool breeze · « **Reply #49 on:** September 01, 2008, 10:04:39 AM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on September 01, 2008, 04:55:21 AM

Its a fun game, but ive only put 3 hours into it and its saying 19%, gonna be a short but fun ride :/

I thought that too, but I realized that you get percent levels fast as you are building up your team (getting jet pilot, helicopter pilot, etc...) . For example, it seemed to take less time to get from 0% to 20% as it did to get from 46% to 50%

bork · « **Reply #50 on:** September 01, 2008, 10:14:24 AM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on September 01, 2008, 04:55:21 AM

Its a fun game, but ive only put 3 hours into it and its saying 19%, gonna be a short but fun ride :/

It's all action, right? None of the GTA side mission/date bullshit? If so that's not too bad at all.

cool breeze · « **Reply #51 on:** September 01, 2008, 10:19:37 AM »

There are side missions, but they aren't required. You can take part in in various challenges to earn money for your co-workers. There is a race, another race with guns, target practice, and more things like that. There are also side missions about blowing up buildings and capturing prisoners, but almost everything involves you destroying something.

Only thing I wish is that I didn't have to lose money for killing civilians.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #52 on:** September 01, 2008, 10:54:48 AM »

Quote from: swaggaz on September 01, 2008, 10:04:39 AM

Quote from: MrAngryFace on September 01, 2008, 04:55:21 AM
Its a fun game, but ive only put 3 hours into it and its saying 19%, gonna be a short but fun ride :/

I thought that too, but I realized that you get percent levels fast as you are building up your team (getting jet pilot, helicopter pilot, etc...) . For example, it seemed to take less time to get from 0% to 20% as it did to get from 46% to 50%

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok that makes sense thanks!

chronovore · « **Reply #53 on:** September 01, 2008, 12:22:17 PM »

GAH; description of actual gameplay-related side activities overcame my tolerance; I just ordered my first title through Play-Asia.com, you bastards.

Hopefully I'll be able to control my jitters until it arrives.

cool breeze · « **Reply #54 on:** September 01, 2008, 03:23:49 PM »

That mission I just did was awesome. Memorable mission? check.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #55 on:** September 01, 2008, 03:56:00 PM »

Don't want to rain on you guys parade but Eurogamer gave it 5/10

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apart from some cool explosive effects and solid controls, Mercenaries 2 is utterly mediocre in almost every sense that matters. From the initial sorties onwards it's bogged down by the worst kind of brain-dead cannon fodder enemies, lead-you-by-the-hand level design, arbitrary boundaries, and some technical howlers. It lacks challenge, excitement, personality and any real verve whatsoever. Just thinking back on time spent negotiating the stupider bits of Mercenaries 2 is enough to cloud our sunny disposition.

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Given its troubled, delayed development, hope remained that Mercenaries 2 would deliver on the series' promise. Instead, the usually reliable Pandemic has produced a game that not only fails to compete with any current-generation openworld, but somehow takes a backward step from the original. With uninspiring combat contributing to a succession of desperately poor missions, the only remaining question is whether the developer will get a third chance to rectify matters.

Sounds fun!

duckman2000 · « **Reply #56 on:** September 01, 2008, 04:04:08 PM »

Eurogamer can't be trusted. This has been proven.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #57 on:** September 01, 2008, 04:24:38 PM »

Wasnt the first game kinda given middling scores too tho?

Tabasco · « **Reply #58 on:** September 01, 2008, 04:48:50 PM »

IGN gave the first one a 9-something on XBOX.

duckman, you aren't flying that flag of Eurogamer bias are you? Take away the +1 for all UK games that they and Edge seem to give, and they are as decent as the rest. And I adore their multiplatform roundups.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #59 on:** September 01, 2008, 04:51:49 PM »

I should probably go pick this up.

I liked the first game well enough and god knows I spend enough time with games like Just Cause and this looks like more of that. Seems like something I could really get into.

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Author Topic: Oh No You Didn't - Mercs 2 (Read 9678 times)