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Yup, after what by pretty much all accounts was a very effective infomercial convention for the Dems, it's the Republicans' turn to snow convince the public that they deserve a shot to run a 7-11, much less the country after the past seven and a half years.

Of course, we've got this "hurricane" thing bearing down on New Orleans almost exactly 3 years after Katrina and the massive incompetence involved with it.  It seems like all responsible parties are acting like your crazy but well meaning uncle that allowed your toddler to stick a fork in a wall socket and has now been given another baby sitting gig.  They don't want to fuck this up, especially by eating cake (again) while a major US city drowns and thousands die.  Fortunately for those in it's path, Gustav has died down and doesn't appear to be as nasty as Katrina.  Still, look to the Republicans to use the planning and response to this hurricane as a resume point and play "Katrina what?"  Still, the storm (just downgraded to a Cat 2 before landfall) gives Bush and Cheney an excuse to not be there, so that's good for the 'pubs.

As for the convention, Old Man McCain and his presumptive running mate Mayor Boobies McMooseburger are using the theme of "Country First" for the convention, despite the fact that by choosing an inexperienced, almost certainly incompetent 20 month Gov. of a state that is less populous than Brooklyn McCain kinds of undercuts that argument.  Listening to the flapping heads explain why this is a good choice has been comical.  Sure she motivates the abortion hating, gun loving, creationism teaching, ANWR drilling, global warming denying base.  But the whole point of the trouble the GOP is in this year is that their base has shrunk while the Dems continues to grow.  Way to miss the point, Old Man McCain.

Also, don't forget about Ronstock!  Ron Paul and his Roniacs have descended upon Minneapolis-St. Paul in force, and plan to demand that we not get caught up in foreign entanglements, legalize weed, and something something gold standard.  Oh, and States Rights, nudge nudge!

Personally, if last week was the week where everything went right for the Dems, this week to me looks like the week were NOTHING can go right for the 'pubs, except Bush and Cheney not showing up at the convention.
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personally i can't wait to hear lieberman's speech
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personally i can't wait to hear lieberman's speech

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I'm not sure how things will change in response to Gustav as the week goes on.

Putting it aside I'd expect a combination of the Democrat's 2004 convention with a ton of stuff about their candidate's military service and the 1992 Republican convention where they had no record to run on and resorted to prophesying doom for the economy if a Democrat got in office.

Plenty of GOP officeholders were going to skip this event even before the hurricane which tells you everything you need to know about the state of the party.

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Apparently the biggest theme of the convention - comparing/contrasting McCain's experience to Obama's - went out the window the minute Palin was chosen. Now along with hurricane relief efforts they'll be focusing on McCain's record as a "reformer"

Isn't Rudy still scheduled to speak tomorrow?
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Just to keep everyone up to date. I want to post Ron Paul's political beliefs curtsey of wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul

-Paul's foreign policy is one of nonintervention, which avoids war of aggression and entangling alliances with other nations, in the style of Washington, Jefferson, and Madison.
-Paul is the only 2008 Republican presidential candidate to have objected to and voted against the Iraq War Resolution, and continues to oppose U.S. presence in Iraq, charging the government with using the War on Terror to curtail civil liberties. :bow2
-In 2000, Paul voted to end trade restrictions on Cuba.
-Paul advocates withdrawing U.S. participation and funding from organizations he believes override American sovereignty, such as the United Nations, the International Criminal Court, the Law of the Sea Treaty, the WTO, NATO, and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.
-Paul is a proponent of free trade and rejects isolationism, advocating "conducting open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy with other nations". He opposes many free trade agreements (FTA's), like the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), stating that "free-trade agreements are really managed trade" and serve special interests and big business, not citizens.
-Paul does not believe the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks were a government conspiracy and has explicitly denied being a 9/11 truther.
-Paul believes the size of federal government must be decreased substantially. He supports abolishment of the Internal Revenue Service, most Cabinet departments, and the Federal Reserve.
-Paul has signed a pledge not to raise taxes or create new taxes, given by Americans for Tax Freedom. Paul has also been an advocate of employee-owned corporations (such as employee stock ownership plans). In 1999, he co-sponsored The Employee Ownership Act of 1999, which would have created a new type of corporation (the employee-owned-and-controlled corporation) that would have been exempt from most federal income taxes.
-In an interview with Neil Cavuto on Fox News, June 26, 2007, in speaking of income tax resistance, Paul said that he supports the right of those who engage in nonviolent resistance when they believe a law is unjust, bringing up the names of Martin Luther King, Lysander Spooner, and Mahatma Gandhi as examples of practitioners of peaceful civil disobedience; but he cautioned that those who do should be aware that the consequences could be imprisonment.
-Paul opposes virtually all federal interference with the market process. He also endorses defederalization of the health care system.
-Paul has consistently advocated that the federal government not be involved in citizens' everyday lives. For instance, he believes that prayer in public schools should neither be prohibited nor mandated at the federal or state level.
-In 2006, a "Technology voter guide" by CNET awarded Paul a score of 80%, the highest score out of both houses of Congress. He believes the internet should be free from government regulation and taxation, and is opposed to internet gambling restrictions and net neutrality.
-The only 2008 presidential candidate to earn Gun Owners of America's A+ rating, Paul has been a lead sponsor of legislation in Congress attempting to restore individual Second Amendment rights.
-In the first Republican debate (2007) in California, Paul stated that he would never violate habeas corpus, through which detainees can seek relief from unlawful imprisonment. This is also a pledge in the American Freedom Agenda signed by Paul. National Journal rated Paul's overall social policies in 2006 as more conservative than 44% of the House and more liberal than 56% of the House (45% and 55%, respectively, in 2005).
-Paul broke with his party by voting against the Patriot Act in 2001; he also voted against its 2005 enactment.
-Paul voted against the REAL ID Act of 2005, an Act to create federal identification-card standards, which has been challenged as violating the Constitutional separation of powers doctrine, and other civil liberties. Enforcement of the Act has been postponed until 2011.
-Paul has spoken against the domestic surveillance program conducted by the National Security Agency on American citizens. He believes the role of government is to protect American citizens' privacy, not violate it.
-Paul is strongly opposed to reintroducing the draft.
-In 1997, Paul voted to end affirmative action in college admissions. Paul criticizes both racism and obsession with racial identity.
-Paul supports stem-cell research generically, as evidenced by his authoring the Cures Can Be Found Act of 2007.
-Paul has asserted that he does not think there should be any federal control over education and education should be handled at a local and state level. He opposes the federal No Child Left Behind Act, voting against it in 2001 and remaining opposed to it as an ineffective federal program.
-Paul argues that enforcing private property rights through tort law would hold people and corporations accountable, and would increase the cost of polluting activities - thus decreasing pollution. He claims that environmental protection has failed in communist countries such as China, citing lack of respect for private property.
-Paul favors the use of marijuana as a medical option. He was cosponsor of H.R. 2592, the States' Rights to Medical Marijuana Act. He opposes federal prohibition of this option in states such as California under Proposition 215.
-In 2005 and 2007 he introduced the Industrial Hemp Farming Act "to amend the Controlled Substances Act to exclude industrial hemp from the definition of marijuana, and for other purposes"; it currently has eleven cosponsors. This bill would give the states the power to regulate farming of hemp. The measure would be a first since the national prohibition of industrial hemp farming in the United States.
-Paul contends that prohibition of drugs is ineffective and advocates ending the War on Drugs. "Prohibition doesn’t work. Prohibition causes crime." He believes that drug abuse should be treated as a medical problem, "We treat alcoholism now as a medical problem and I, as a physician, think we should treat drug addiction as a medical problem and not as a crime." The Constitution does not enumerate or delegate to Congress the authority to ban or regulate drugs in general. He believes the war on drugs is a racist policy against African Americans, who are affected disproportionally.
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Biden knows all about those who should be running 7-11s. Or was it Dunkin Donuts?

Hey look! Its Bobby Jindal and the "storm of the century"!!!

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I dont think Arnolds making it to the convention either lulz. Sad state of affairs when you only have 9-11 loony man speaking
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Biden knows all about those who should be running 7-11s. Or was it Dunkin Donuts?

Hey look! Its Bobby Jindal and the "storm of the century"!!!

lol maybe he'll give jindal a bloody nose.

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personally i can't wait to hear lieberman's speech
And I can't wait for Majority Leader Reid to strip Holy Joe of any senority...
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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2008, 09:06:08 PM »
Just to keep everyone up to date. I want to post Ron Paul's political beliefs curtsey of wikipedia.

Come on!

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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2008, 11:02:45 PM »
Just to keep everyone up to date. I want to post Ron Paul's political beliefs curtsey of wikipedia.

Come on!
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Why oh why didn't McCain pick Romney?

Palin is a complete disaster. I'd certainly rather be watching Obama commercials of them calling each other ass fucks than having to listen to the media's double standard comparing a potential VP's experience and being ready to be POTUS to Obama actually being POTUS.


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Watching the television, it becomes increasingly apparent that she was barely vetted at all.
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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2008, 01:34:34 AM »
Watching the television, it becomes increasingly apparent that she was barely vetted at all.

I would have loved to have seen the McCain VP file. It was probably just a MadLibs/Match.com thing. Fill in the gender/ideological position/race and/or religion most suited to be OPPOSED to Obama's pick and the system goes bleep bleep blorp and spits out a match. Here's a pretty lady for you, John!
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Why oh why didn't McCain pick Romney?

Palin is a complete disaster. I'd certainly rather be watching Obama commercials of them calling each other ass fucks than having to listen to the media's double standard comparing a potential VP's experience and being ready to be POTUS to Obama actually being POTUS.



Why is it a double standard when one party is touting experience and readiness to lead above everything else?  It's a very valid question to ask why Palin - especially when you consider McCain's age and the possibility that his very inexperienced veep could take the reins - was chosen over more qualified candidates.

I would also like to remind everyone of McCain's age. His VP pick is REALLY important.
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Watching the television, it becomes increasingly apparent that she was barely vetted at all.

I'd love to see someone ask McCain if he'd pick a Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, or National Security Advisor the same way he picked his Vice President.

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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2008, 09:04:15 AM »
seems Sarah Palin hated America so much she wished to be out of it:

http://www.akip.org/

smh

i heard on the internets that she went to an inuit shaman school

she might not be an inuit shaman, but well, i'm not sure i can trust her
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Watching the television, it becomes increasingly apparent that she was barely vetted at all.

I'd love to see someone ask McCain if he'd pick a Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, or National Security Advisor the same way he picked his Vice President.
I believe this would be his reply:
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I imagine McCain had 40-page reports of PRO/CON for Pawlenty and Romney, then someone pushed a copy of Alaska magazine with Palin on the cover (calling her America's hottest governor) with a post it that says, "You should tap that."
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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2008, 10:11:55 AM »
Evidently Republicans love the VP pick. Only God knows why.
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Pubs love it because 'Oh shit we're gonna lose, nothing can save us...except omg! Stupid americans who vote for a ticket based on whats betweeen the candidates legs!"

"ITS OUR TIME! GLASS CEILING! THIS SHITTY VP PICK WILL INSPIRE WOMEN TO BE SHITTY IN HIGH OFFICE YAY! GO WOMEN!"
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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2008, 12:33:16 PM »
So are they gonna let Ron Paul speak?
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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2008, 12:46:30 PM »
So are they gonna let Ron Paul speak?

Nope, read the Ronstock article.
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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2008, 12:49:40 PM »
They are letting Rudy and Thompson speak but not Ron Paul. It's their loss really they need the smaller government wing of the party to win.


But the upside is that Ronstock looks like alot of fun.


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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2008, 01:57:21 PM »
What I dont get is why the RNC is letting Lieberman speak but not Ron Paul. Paul is more "conservative" on every issue except the war (in their minds). And yet they didnt invite him. Clearly Ron Paul has a strong grassroots following based on his primary support and fund raising. I mean shit, Mccain would have gotten a huge bounce by choosing paul instead of Palin.

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Ron Paul is a doofus.
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O SNAP!

Ron Paul probably wasn't invited to speak because the Republicans are trying hard not to embarass themselves.
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O SNAP!

Ron Paul probably wasn't invited to speak because the Republicans are trying hard not to embarass themselves.

Too late.
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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2008, 02:30:29 PM »
You know what would make my day? If the delegates that support Ron Paul did something drastic at the convention.

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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2008, 07:29:06 PM »
You know what would make my day? If the delegates that support Ron Paul did something drastic at the convention.

Seduce a Romney delegate and have a steamy threesome?

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OH LAWD IT'S TIME FOR THE RONALD REAGAN MASTURBATORY SELF CONGRATULATION VIDEO PACKAGE 

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This is awesome, it's like the last days of Rome when the Romans were too busy drinking themselves blind, eating themselves fat and fucking each other to notice that the world had passed them by.  Keep whipping your ever shrinking base up into a fervor, dummies. 
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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2008, 10:34:56 PM »
I mean shit, Mccain would have gotten a huge bounce by choosing paul instead of Palin.

There's no way Paul would accept, though, unless of course McCain totally changed many of his positions (which I wouldn't put past him, but still).
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I listened to some old fuck give a war story on McCain

"McCain's legs may have been broken... but his spirit wasnt!"

Oh my god do these people eat this up?
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you don't bring a knife to a gun fight

you also don't bring a plane to a sam fight
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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2008, 10:54:23 PM »
Mccain's speakers should promise more things.

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Listening to Lieberman speak is somewhat like what I would imagine it to be like to give a lecture to a bunch of idiot college freshman, while all the time continually sprinkling talcum powder in my mouth.


He really is the most pa-fucking-thetic man to ever run for office.  Just think how many people in the crowd screamed "dirty attractive Jewish person" at the tv screen just 8 short years ago.
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Listening to Lieberman speak is somewhat like what I would imagine it to be like to give a lecture to a bunch of idiot college freshman, while all the time continually sprinkling talcum powder in my mouth.


He really is the most pa-fucking-thetic man to ever run for office.  Just think how many people in the crowd screamed "dirty attractive Jewish person" at the tv screen just 8 short years ago.

I watched literally two minutes of his speech. Fuck Lieberman.
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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2008, 11:42:48 PM »
I am just curious, why do you guys hate republicans?

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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #45 on: September 02, 2008, 11:43:46 PM »
Why was Thompson more excited in that speech than in his entire campaign?

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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2008, 11:45:53 PM »
I am just curious, why do you guys hate republicans?

Well, you see, (and this is probably gonna seem pretty silly) it's more or less based on the whole, "bringing the country to the brink of ruin for almost a decade while practicing the most dirty, shameless, and intellectually dishonest political moves," thing.
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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #47 on: September 02, 2008, 11:46:42 PM »
I am just curious, why do you guys hate republicans?

Well, you see, (and this is probably gonna seem pretty silly) it's more or less based on the whole, "bringing the country to the brink of ruin for almost a decade while practicing the most dirty, shameless, and intellectually dishonest political moves," thing.
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I am just curious, why do you guys hate republicans?

do you have ANY knowledge of the current leaders of the republican party

i don't hate them -- in fact, i have many republican family members and friends -- but ultimately i am for the abolishment of any state support for religion or specifically religious values, and i am for the heavy taxation of the wealthiest 5% and corporations -- and for a greater equalization/distribution of wages overall. i am also heavily pro-environment and pro-regulation. this naturally puts me at odds with the current republican party, even though a share a few issues with them.
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I am just curious, why do you guys hate republicans?
1. obviously this forum is filled with people who are either liberal, or non conservative.  I am one of them.  So obviously we are kinda biased.

2.  Are you fucking kidding me
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Re: RNC Thread of looking competent during hurricanes, COUNTRY FIRST, and RONSTO
« Reply #50 on: September 02, 2008, 11:48:30 PM »
My greatest beef with the Republicans lies in their sheer hypocrisy.  They hate government but support a Reaganized bloated, nonworking government that just hands out padded contracts to businesses who don't deserve it.  Then when they collapse, the taxpayers have to clean that up.  They claim to love freedom but are more than eager to chisel away civil liberties that don't give a profit to their butt buddies they went to Dartmouth with.

The only way I could be a Republican is if I was rich as fuck or working for a defense contractor.

Why was Thompson more excited in that speech than in his entire campaign?

Because the effort to give a speech was much less than running a campaign.
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Plus, the Republican party has completely destroyed the conservatism that it SHOULD be known for, rather than this new-age neoconservatism that they all seem to follow and preach.  They are one big example of hypocrisy.

The party of Lincoln is :'(
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Welp, that was enough to double the bet with my brother that Obama will win.

$200 now...  

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I am just curious, why do you guys hate republicans?

do you have ANY knowledge of the current leaders of the republican party

i don't hate them -- in fact, i have many republican family members and friends -- but ultimately i am for the abolishment of any state support for religion or specifically religious values, and i am for the heavy taxation of the wealthiest 5% and corporations -- and for a greater equalization/distribution of wages overall. i am also heavily pro-environment and pro-regulation. this naturally puts me at odds with the current republican party, even though a share a few issues with them.
Pure sophistry.  You are clearly a divider, and probably hate our country's freedoms.

also i hate the troops and love al qaeda
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I'm for small government as in stay the hell out of people's private lives, no subsidies for sport-art-business etc, lobbyists should burn in hell. Though things like infrastructure, health etc should be either government owned or heavily regulated. I think tax (flat tax) should be the same for everyone except the bottom 20% and the top 10%. Corporations should be taxed more.
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Welp, that was enough to double the bet with my brother that Obama will win.

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Ah... but which side are you on?

Tonight was hilarious.  The Republicans really, really don't get it.  Rally around Mayor McMooseburger all you want.  Book speakers to fling red meat by the truck load to the crowd.  RALLY THAT BASE.  It doesn't matter, because YOUR BASE IS NO LONGER ENOUGH TO WIN.  Should have spent more time trying to appeal to the middle, distinguished mentally-challenged fellows! 

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McCain has this in the bag, Triumph.  I'm not sure where this confidence is coming from.  Obama had a SMALL and diminishing bump from his convention, and I'm positive that all those white folks with one black friend who told the phone pollster that they will vote Obama will cling to their closet racist ways come Election Day.
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The Obama will win side.

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If the Dems win, when will I get my next stimulus check? :'(
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