Science concludes that cheesie indie rock fans are lazy weenie assholes

[TVC15]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7598549.stm

BLUES           High self-esteem, creative, outgoing, gentle and at ease


JAZZ       High self-esteem, creative, outgoing and at ease


CLASSICAL MUSIC       High self-esteem, creative, introvert and at ease


RAP       High self-esteem, outgoing


OPERA       High self-esteem, creative, gentle


COUNTRY AND WESTERN       Hardworking, outgoing

REGGAE       High self-esteem, creative, not hardworking, outgoing, gentle and at ease


DANCE       Creative, outgoing, not gentle


INDIE       Low self-esteem, creative, not hard working, not gentle


BOLLYWOOD       Creative, outgoing

ROCK/HEAVY METAL       Low self-esteem, creative, not hard-working, not outgoing, gentle, at ease

CHART POP       High self-esteem, not creative, hardworking, outgoing, gentle, not at ease

SOUL       High self-esteem, creative, outgoing, gentle, at ease

tsk tsk, indie distinguished effete fellows.  I am assuming science didn't study drone/doom because they were not hardcore enough.

[BlueTsunami]

I love how that chart can easily be applied to all of Evilbore (each category for individual members). Classical for me.

[TVC15]

Correlation doesn't imply causation.

Which is why the dude did a study?

[TVC15]

He did it by polling people. Highly debateable method imho.

I trust the scientist over the man that did a third world fuck tour.  You probably listen to indie, too.

[Greatness Gone]

Indie? /barf

I love the mainstream stuff. NO DOUBT, FOREVER. 

[TVC15]

Hey I have a degree 

in indie rock!

[demi]

What about techno tards?

[Fresh Prince]

Rap

[TVC15]

I like how  "gentle" is one of the descriptors for Soul, and then they have a pic of James Brown, who used to get married solely for the opportunity to beat women.

[fistfulofmetal]

ROCK/HEAVY METAL       Low self-esteem, creative, not hard-working, not outgoing, gentle, at ease

Well I'm pretty sure I'm fucking awesome and I'm not very creative. Also I work pretty hard, but they are spot on with not being outgoing, gentle and at ease.

[BlueTsunami]

What about techno tards?

What Kosma said, which means tiesto must be banging that Born Again Christian pretty hard

[pilonv1]

i am indie and proud

[TVC15]

Just to piss on this research more: Rap listenerers have supposedly high self esteem but I have to disagree, this whole fake thug stuff is a mere defence mechanisn for their fragile and insecure self.

You think if they polled some ghetto brothers and asked them if they are confident they would say no? HELL NO. Doesnt mean they all are. It's just how they are made to act by their surroundings.

Same could be applied to many of this list I bet.

And I'd think you are flat out wrong.  What with rap being such a boastful genre of music, it's not a leap at all to think that attitude would transitively be absorbed by the listeners.  Kosma = indie fan confirmed.

[TVC15]

Posting lyrics?  WTF is this?  A Diablos SP thread?

[Fresh Prince]

Gangsta rap is escapism, except for some dudes on allhiphop and sohh. Anyway no one probably listens to gangsta rap here except from the late 80's and 90's anyway which is classic material anyway regardless of genre.

[muckhole]

What happens if you listen to everything except country? Will I usher in a new age of understanding? Or will my head simply explode like that guy with the collar in Running Man?

[The Fake Shemp]

My music tastes are so eclectic that none of this stuff applies to me.  On my Zune I've got Metallica, Johnny Cash, Queen, Muddy Waters, Kanye West, Gustav Holst, Portishead, Tupac, Alan Hovhaness, David Bowie, Nine Inch Nails, Gnarls Barkley, Nirvana, Eric Clapton, etc.

I want to belong to a group.

[recursivelyenumerable]

yeah, this seems to be based on self-assessments, so indie fans could just be more self-critical of their work ethic and gentleness.  isn't self-deprecation kind of a common theme of indie rock?  personally, most people who know me seem to think I'm really nice and gentle because that's how I superficially act, but being privy to my inner thoughts I know I'm actually a major-league asshole.  were I less self-aware and more prone to cognitive dissonance, however, I might internalize their compliments and become one of those guys who creepily hangs around women and whines about nice guys not getting laid, etc. 

[CajoleJuice]

My music tastes are so eclectic that none of this stuff applies to me.  On my Zune I've got Metallica, Johnny Cash, Queen, Muddy Waters, Kanye West, Gustav Holst, Portishead, Tupac, Alan Hovhaness, David Bowie, Nine Inch Nails, Gnarls Barkley, Nirvana, Eric Clapton, etc.

I want to belong to a group.

That's mostly rock.

[Phoenix Dark]

My music tastes are so eclectic that none of this stuff applies to me.  On my Zune I've got Metallica, Johnny Cash, Queen, Muddy Waters, Kanye West, Gustav Holst, Portishead, Tupac, Alan Hovhaness, David Bowie, Nine Inch Nails, Gnarls Barkley, Nirvana, Eric Clapton, etc.

I want to belong to a group.

Same here. I've got Portishead, Muse, MF DOOM, Bjork, Radiohead, Fiona Apple, Mos Def, Iron Maiden, Zero 7, Led Zeppelin, Nas, Nine Inch Nails, Nina Simone, James Pants, etc

[TakingBackSunday]

I've got Bob Dylan

[demi]

My music tastes are so eclectic that none of this stuff applies to me.  On my Zune I've got Metallica, Johnny Cash, Queen, Muddy Waters, Kanye West, Gustav Holst, Portishead, Tupac, Alan Hovhaness, David Bowie, Nine Inch Nails, Gnarls Barkley, Nirvana, Eric Clapton, etc.

I want to belong to a group.

Same here. I've got Portishead, Muse, MF DOOM, Bjork, Radiohead, Fiona Apple, Mos Def, Iron Maiden, Zero 7, Led Zeppelin, Nas, Nine Inch Nails, Nina Simone, James Pants, etc

Group: Homeschooled

[Flannel Boy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7598549.stm

CLASSICAL MUSIC       High self-esteem, creative, introvert and at ease



INDIE       Low self-esteem, creative, not hard working, not gentle[/b]


ROCK/HEAVY METAL       Low self-esteem, creative, not hard-working, not outgoing, gentle, at ease

Well, they got me pegged. 

[Madrun Badrun]

Blues and classical don't describe me at all except of introverted. 

[Powerslave]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7598549.stm

CLASSICAL MUSIC       High self-esteem, creative, introvert and at ease



INDIE       Low self-esteem, creative, not hard working, not gentle[/b]


ROCK/HEAVY METAL       Low self-esteem, creative, not hard-working, not outgoing, gentle, at ease

Well, they got me pegged. 

do you have msn?

[demi]

PD

[John Dunbar]

Well, he's probably right about calling pretty much everyone else creative except for rap fans. It's fucking noise.

[Powerslave]

Rap music is creative.

[Madrun Badrun]

Rap music is creative.

Creative like the crap I create on the toilet. 

[Powerslave]

Keep drinking more whisky ya drunk sob

[Madrun Badrun]

Yes, because like Rap, drinking vasts amounts of hard liquor will help me in my art, which is of expelling bodily waste.  Throwing up I mean. Which is very similar to rap.  Both are rancid.  In both events things spew from your lips, only one is slurred unintelligible words and in the other is chunky soup. Also with both you feel better once it's done.     

[tiesto]

Well, tbh I'm not terribly outgoing in person, and people say I'm kind and gentile... so I don't think that really holds true, for me.

[Powerslave]

white boys who have never heard good rap talking smack about it

[Madrun Badrun]

How can I hear something that doesn't exist?  Is this a tree falling in the woods question? 

[Powerslave]

Are you drunk again? Oh lord FM, stay sober every once in a while!

[Phoenix Dark]

Well, he's probably right about calling pretty much everyone else creative except for rap fans. It's fucking noise.

shut the fuck up donnie

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Well, he's probably right about calling pretty much everyone else creative except for rap fans. It's fucking noise.

go away go away go away go away go away

[Phoenix Dark]

can we talk about hip hop ITT? i'm going to talk about hip hop ITT


Go buy this album. I can't praise it enough

great write up on it

I’m hesitant to recommend any hip hop album with a guy who goes by a name with the word “fudge” in it, but here we go anyway. Insight and Damu the Fudgemunk are Y Society, whose debut album, Travel At Your Own Pace, has now officially dropped on Tres Records.

It’s full of samples, riffs and rhymes borrowed from classic material to create a conscious, joyful collage or hip hop culture. Both Damu and Insight have bios that include successes as DJs, and it shows in this remarkable record. Both have smooth and easy flow (a welcome respite from the in-your-face bling-bling crunk dominating the airwaves these days), and both are intelligent enough to tell their stories with a minimum of profanity.

The old school blended edutainment begins at the beginning, with “This is an Introduction,” the kind of here-we-are track that you don’t find too much on modern rap records, but which used to be the rule back in the Native Tongue ‘90s. “Never Off (On and On)” is heavily influenced by Tribe Called Quest, from the hook to the samples, scratches and generally superlative turntable marksmanship. But “Hole In You Pocket” changes it up, relying heavily on the rhythm track to make the message. Then “Good Communication,” with its Beastie-Boy/TCQ influence, brings back the complex funky drummer beats of guys like Grandmaster Flash. If you listen carefully, each song is a tribute to a different kind of classic record.

This album should be fascinating to hip hop scholars, and, hopefully, inspiring to new jacks. With so many rappers using canned beats created before the lyrics by a faceless producer, it’s cool to see an album where MC and DJ work together, back and forth, weaving in and out, each alternately laying back for the other: True teammates. (It’s mostly Insight on the mic, but Damu pops in now and then.) Younger readers may not realize that this used to be the rule, not the exception: When guys like KRS-One and Chuck D were coming up, the DJ was an essential part of the act, he wasn’t just a backdrop. Now, gang-bang production jobs are the rule: Throw on a Storch jam here, another by Neptunes there, so no real album, no real style, emerges.

Please check this out. Artists like this need our support.

For fans of: Mr. Lif, BDP and KRS-One, Jurassic 5, Tribe Called Quest.

http://berkeleyplace.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/y-society-travel-at-your-own-pace/