EB/GS: "XB360 Live 12 Month Messenger Gold with Project Gotham Racing 4", $70

[AdmiralViscen]

Comes out 10/7/08

http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=72460

Is this just for a headset or does it have a chat pad too?

[cool breeze]

How bad did PGR4 bomb? the game is pretty great.

[AdmiralViscen]

How different is PGR4 from PGR3, aside from bikes? What kind of new SP tasks?

It sold 60k in its first month iirc, it was a PS3 level bomb.

[MrAngryFace]

PGR4 is nice, but its been out for a while, so I dunno if its a deal so much as a actual value thing

[cool breeze]

PGR4 really isn't that much different from PGR3; the jump from PGR3 to PGR4 is so minor compared to the ones from MSR to PGR, PGR1 to PGR2, or PGR2 to PGR3.  It actually feels more like an expansion pack than a sequel.

The PGR series is still my favorite racing game series (PGR2 is the best) and I can only hope that Activision doesn't ruin the next racer Bizarre does.

And I just realized that developers that make racing games usually end up making good shooters.  BothThe Club and Black were awesome.  Microsoft should get Turn 10 off of Forza 3 and get them on a new shooter or something.