Mega Man 9 thread

[demi]

I dunno how people find this as one of the best. The levels are awful, there's no slide, and you can't even change weapons in-game (can you? i didnt see any way). Easily one of the lower ranking Mega Mans. It's poop. Fuck off with this shit and make a new Legends.

And how do you get those items that are stuck in the walls that are impossible to reach regularly? I figured Black Hole would do something... nope

[TakingBackSunday]

That one coil move?

[Vizzys]

Legends.

Megaman Legends 3 is gonna be awesome

[cool breeze]

I dunno how people find this as one of the best. The levels are awful, there's no slide, and you can't even change weapons in-game (can you? i didnt see any way). Easily one of the lower ranking Mega Mans. It's poop. Fuck off with this shit and make a new Legends.

And how do you get those items that are stuck in the walls that are impossible to reach regularly? I figured Black Hole would do something... nope

I think you might need the bird to bring it to you or something, that or the Protoman DLC.

And Legends 3 will probably be on the Wii.  I am not getting my hopes up.

[demi]

That one coil move?

No cause they're surrounded by walling you can't get through

I dunno how people find this as one of the best. The levels are awful, there's no slide, and you can't even change weapons in-game (can you? i didnt see any way). Easily one of the lower ranking Mega Mans. It's poop. Fuck off with this shit and make a new Legends.

And how do you get those items that are stuck in the walls that are impossible to reach regularly? I figured Black Hole would do something... nope

I think you might need the bird to bring it to you or something, that or the Protoman DLC.

And Legends 3 will probably be on the Wii.  I am not getting my hopes up.

The bird saves you if you fall down a hole, once

[Madrun Badrun]

I think what went wrong is that they included a woman

The woman is the easiest robot master to beat, too 

Uh NO, Galaxy Man is the easiest. Followed by Concrete Man, then Tornado Man. Splash Woman gave me the worst time.

lol, Demi has difficulties with women. 

[cool breeze]

The bird saves you if you fall down a hole, once

I know there is one item that 'gives you an item', I thought it was the bird, but maybe it was something else.

[demi]

That's Auto, the little red guy, but he just randomly appears and gives you an item.

[cool breeze]

So then you really do need to pay $2 to get it.

[demi]

A lot of the bosses do nothing but hop - Jewel Man in particular, and it'd be so better if I could just you know, slide under him

[Tucah]

Yes, beat my second Robot Master, Splash Woman.

[Oblivion]

You mean the throwback 8-bit style?

Yes. This is a prime example of a company completely misinterpreting what people wanted. When people wanted a classic Megaman, I'm sure no one ever asked to have EVERYTHING get regressed to NES era filth. 16 bit graphics should be the MINIMUM level developers should aim for when making these types of games. I mean, fuck even MM6 looks better than this.

Wii:


MM6:




NES > Wii? Seems so.  TIA  budget emulator

[demi]

I'm on Wily's Castle now

Gonna grind Screws and get at least 15 E-Tanks and 10 Lives

[demi]

Three instant-death magma lasers in the same room. Man I'm glad I didn't pay for this.

[Oblivion]

The complete 8-bit style is exactly what I've wanted ever since Mega Man 8 was shit.  I just never thought I'd get it.

Why, though?

[demi]

They give me the option to buy from a store, but no option to slide. SMH

[demi]

OMG I figured out how to get shit from afar.

HORNET

[Oblivion]

Word. Another thing I don't get is how people can happily go back to the original's style of controls when the X series refined and improved on pretty much everything.

[demi]

So, Wily Castle 3

There's this part where you're in a Tractor Beam of sorts. Easy enough, just shoot to direct yourself left or right. Avoid the spike blocks.

Go too far... OH SHIT A ROBOT GRABS YOU AND DRAGS YOU TO THE SPIKES ANYWAY

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

[demi]

So now I'm back at the first stage. Bravo.

Edit: Nevermind, hitting Continue put me back at Level 3

[bork]

Is it true the game runs in 480i on Wii?  WTF?

[demi]

Its a NES game, who cares

[bork]

Its a NES game, who cares

But the NES games on the Wii virtual console run at 480p!   

[demi]

Upscaled 

Also this should come as no surprise but yes - there is a boss Gauntlet on the final level

[The Sceneman]

If the xbla version has an abusable save function Im there

[demi]

Wily's first form is probably the dumbest thing ever. I mean I say that a lot regarding this game, but holy shit.

You have to bounce eggs back in his face. You cant just shoot him normally, no. You have to play hot Potato with him. Motherfucker.

[demi]

LOL I died on the very last boss

I hate this game

[TVC15]

Does Parish even read his own shit anymore?  I hope he gets cancer.

The irony of MM9's generally warm reception within the gaming community is difficult to miss. Here is a game artfully crafted to resemble an 8-bit platformer. Not just any 8-bit platformer, either; after all, that rather generic term spans a tremendous gamut ranging from Pitfall! to Dracula X: Rondo of Blood.

Rondo of Blood was an 8-bit game now?  You're a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, Parish.  I hope he gets a brain tumor and quickly goes insane and embarrasses himself in front of all those he has loved.  What a re-re.  PC Engine had a 16-bit graphic processing, which is all that really mattered at the time.

[demi]

Wooooo I beat it. Got the "Quick Draw X" award too. I annihilated that place... easier the second time around, obviously.

Funny when Mega Man shows Wily all 9 other times he lost, lol. ProtoMan makes an appearance too.

@ Dr. Light soaking in the tub

My final time was like 2:53:xx

[demi]

HOLY SHIT don't save over your file when you beat it, it ERASES EVERYTHING... put it on a different save

[demi]

Meh I wasnt gonna replay it anyway.

[bork]

PC Engine is still considered an 8 bit machine though.

Even a Super CD2 game? 

[Crushed]

Damn it, the dude who was gonna gift it to me was having problems. His debit card wasn't working with the Wii for some reason. Gonna have to wait until later today when he picks up a Points Card.  :'(

[Vrolokus]

Does Parish even read his own shit anymore?  I hope he gets cancer.

The irony of MM9's generally warm reception within the gaming community is difficult to miss. Here is a game artfully crafted to resemble an 8-bit platformer. Not just any 8-bit platformer, either; after all, that rather generic term spans a tremendous gamut ranging from Pitfall! to Dracula X: Rondo of Blood.

Rondo of Blood was an 8-bit game now?  You're a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, Parish.  I hope he gets a brain tumor and quickly goes insane and embarrasses himself in front of all those he has loved.  What a re-re.  PC Engine had a 16-bit graphic processing, which is all that really mattered at the time.

I'm sure he knows exactly what he wrote: if one had to categorize the PC Engine as either 8-bit or 16-bit, 8-bit is more accurate.

[demi]

Game is pretty weak entry. Parish said KH1 > KH2. Parish knows shit. MM9 a rushed game.

[bork]

I'm sure he knows exactly what he wrote: if one had to categorize the PC Engine as either 8-bit or 16-bit, 8-bit is more accurate.

Again, Rondo is a Super CD2 game.  Are we going to count what is essentially a Turbo Duo as an 8-bit console now?  It's got a modified 8-bit CPU but 16-bit graphics processors...

It isn't like the Retronauts guys are dead-on accurate about everything.  Almost every time I listen to a podcast, the nerd in me always speaks out loud whenever they are wrong.   

[cool breeze]

Parish is usually wrong on the podcast anyway.  Shane, Kohler, or Ray usually bail him out (although they are often times wrong as well).  That said, yeah, Parish is usually wrong.

[Enl]

I'm kinda mixed on the game so far. On one hand I can see and feel some of the visual improvements over the NES titles. On the other, while I like how the game's tone is more Mega Man 1 and 2, the sprite and tile work really is bland looking even compared to the first two games. The music is catchy though, I'm glad that they didn't fuck that part up.

Also I'm all for hard difficulties and such but some of the challenges in the game rely on stretching out a mechanic for far too long (Tornado Man) or one hit deaths. It's more tedious than challenging. Some of it just borderlines a typiclal Mega Man hack without being nearly as difficult. There's also some enemy placements in the game that I can't seem to get by without getting hit, like one involving a ladder and one of those spider hoppers. Also what's with Machine Gun Sniper Joe not having any sound effects?

Despite my problems with it I am enjoying the game a lot so far and there are some pretty creative twists here and there, but the level design does feel a bit chintzy than what it should be for a newly released 8 bit game.

As for my series rankings:
1=2=3=7nes > 5 > 6 = 4

[Crushed]

Woot, got it.

Galaxy and Magma Man down. The post-damage invincibility is really handy for walking across lava in Magma Man's stage. And that fire dragon mid-boss I was fearing takes like three black hole bombs, he's fucking easy.

Also, two fully charged shots of the Magma Bazooka or whatever is enough to kill the boulder mid-boss on Jewel Man's stage.

[demi]

Nobody cares. We beat it already. Game sucks. Waste of money.

[Rman]

Nobody cares. We beat it already. Game sucks. Waste of money.

You know you're getting on 360 for the achievements.

[Crushed]

Nobody cares. We beat it already. Game sucks. Waste of money.

Poor non-gamer demi, maybe Wii Music will be more his speed.  :'(

[demi]

Nobody cares. We beat it already. Game sucks. Waste of money.

You know you're getting on 360 for the achievements.

Bet me I'm not?

[EmCeeGrammar]

I didnt play megaman as a child, so there's no nostalgia when I think the game is fuck awesome. Controls are spot on and the game provides a ton of creative solutions involving weapons.  Im fine with dying over and over because Ill be accumulating screws all the while.

Evilbore has proven itself the haven of jaded and cynical nerds who dont blend in anywhere with any minimal moderation.  Congratulations, you fail at Enjoying Things.

[bork]

This game has put a smile on my face.  It's definitely harder than the likes of Mega Man 2, but it's nice to have a game where the challenge comes from the level design and not from some stupid camera bullshit or cheap A.I. crap.  It's totally old-school, and it's awesome.  I still would have preferred something that looked more like a fusion of 8-bit with modern effects though, like Pac-Man CE.

[EmCeeGrammar]

This game has put a smile on my face.  It's definitely harder than the likes of Mega Man 2, but it's nice to have a game where the challenge comes from the level design and not from some stupid camera bullshit or cheap A.I. crap.  It's totally old-school, and it's awesome.  I still would have preferred something that looked more like a fusion of 8-bit with modern effects though, like Pac-Man CE.

I agree about the graphical approach.  When the game was first rumored to be 8bit I was hoping for a stylized approach.  Then again, the file size would be much larger.  This is the only wiiware game I own because its not like Im giving up a ton of space to play it.

[tiesto]

All I gotta do now is beat Tornado Man and then the Wily stages... still can't grasp the timing on those goddamn spinning platforms.

Also, I made it past the elephants in Concrete Man's stage and the plant in Hornet Man's stage by the skin of my teeth... any tricks for these? I use the Splash Woman Trident weapon since it seems to move faster and do more damage than the standard megabuster.

[Trent Dole]

I died out in Jewel and Plug Man's stages. I suck.

[originalz]

The plant miniboss is easy, just constantly move in a circle.  If the flower appears opposite from where you are, just stand and blast it with as many shots as possible, if not then just keep moving and avoid the shots.

Tornado man's platforms just require timing, I didn't find them hard at all.  You can also just constantly jump on them as long as there aren't any spikes above you.

[Crushed]

Okay, fuck Wily 2. I can't pinpoint exactly why, but I hate it. Wily 1 was not that hard, especially once you know how to do the lava streams (especially that you can keep freezing the streams indefinitely), but there's something about Wily 2 that's frustrating.

[GilloD]

Okay, fuck Wily 2. I can't pinpoint exactly why, but I hate it. Wily 1 was not that hard, especially once you know how to do the lava streams (especially that you can keep freezing the streams indefinitely), but there's something about Wily 2 that's frustrating.

fuzzy logic

[Himu]

Does Parish even read his own shit anymore?  I hope he gets cancer.

The irony of MM9's generally warm reception within the gaming community is difficult to miss. Here is a game artfully crafted to resemble an 8-bit platformer. Not just any 8-bit platformer, either; after all, that rather generic term spans a tremendous gamut ranging from Pitfall! to Dracula X: Rondo of Blood.

Rondo of Blood was an 8-bit game now?  You're a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, Parish.  I hope he gets a brain tumor and quickly goes insane and embarrasses himself in front of all those he has loved.  What a re-re.  PC Engine had a 16-bit graphic processing, which is all that really mattered at the time.

 

[Enl]

Okay, fuck Wily 2. I can't pinpoint exactly why, but I hate it. Wily 1 was not that hard, especially once you know how to do the lava streams (especially that you can keep freezing the streams indefinitely), but there's something about Wily 2 that's frustrating.

Is it because it's making you actually use your items? I'm on Wily 2 at the moment as well and kinda like that they're pushing me to use my arsenal. This was something that the later entries was lacking a bit. At this moment though my opinion is still the same on the game. It's definitely been a lot of fun for me as a long time Mega Man fan but it does fall short of the first three games in terms of overall design, and the pixel art is easily the worse in the series. Love the soundtrack though. I actually ended up liking a majority of the stage music.

[Crushed]

Is it because it's making you actually use your items? I'm on Wily 2 at the moment as well and kinda like that they're pushing me to use my arsenal. This was something that the later entries was lacking a bit. At this moment though my opinion is still the same on the game. It's definitely been a lot of fun for me as a long time Mega Man fan but it does fall short of the first three games in terms of overall design, and the pixel art is easily the worse in the series. Love the soundtrack though. I actually ended up liking a majority of the stage music.

No, it's because it's easy to use up the energy for those mandatory items and weapons and you'll spend ten minutes getting it all back.

Then hit some spikes in that fucking underwater part.

[Enl]

No, it's because it's easy to use up the energy for those mandatory items and weapons and you'll spend ten minutes getting it all back.

Then hit some spikes in that fucking underwater part.

It's kinda like the first two games to where they kinda force you to get good enough to use your weapons wisely. Plus it's the last bunch of stages, they should be a bit demanding.

[Crushed]

I know, it's just that Wily 2 is being a dick by pulling out shit like trick floors, water sections filled with spikes, and that goddamned plant sub-boss.

[Enl]

That was one thing I was worried about when I heard that inticreates was working on this. They have had such a reliance on spikes that that becomes their primary source of making a game difficult. That's not creative design. Yes the old games had spikes but it wasn't to the extent that this game has them (in which they're prevalent in almost every stage).

And the plant sub boss is actually kinda easy.

[Crushed]

And the plant sub boss is actually kinda easy.

It's technically easy, but it's annoying as fuck to fight.

[Himu]

inticreates owns. i want this so bad.

[Mr. Gundam]

Ha ha. I'm getting my ass kicked nonstop, but it's fun.