Anyone else taking the October LSAT?

[Don Flamenco]

A week from this Saturday...I honestly can't wait, so I can stop fucking studying for it     If it weren't for the LSAT, I'd have the easiest semester ever so far.

so, who's taking it and what are you shooting for?     

I'm going for high 150s or anywhere in the 160s.  Just need to get into anywhere in Chicago.

[CajoleJuice]

Not Malek!

[Flannel Boy]

Looking at how US attorney salaries are distributed, you really want to get into University of Chicago, or Northwestern University, or at least University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign.

Also, Evilbore has already established that the low 160s is failure.

[huckleberry]

I was going to take it in October, but have too much on my plate at work and home.  Will have to reschedule for the December date.  What sucks I have already taken the LSAT once and did wonderfully on it...but that was back in 1996.  Having to retake it now that all my brain cells are officially dead is making me worry a little bit.


Good luck.

[Flannel Boy]

[Don Flamenco]

Looking at how US attorney salaries are distributed, you really want to get into University of Chicago, or Northwestern University, or at least University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign.

Also, Evilbore has already established that the low 160s is failure.

I know, i know.  there are plenty of overachievers who I've talked to here at school who think I'm not ambitious enough and that I'd be wasting my time.  The people who are shooting for high 160s and up are the most vocal, it seems.  In reality, Depaul, Loyola, or John Marshall would be just fine for my needs...hell, even Valparaiso is fine. or Thomas Cooley, if it comes to that (god, it better not)  

While I was working at a firm last summer, I met plenty of attorneys who went to these non-ivy league (or completely shitty, by many people's standards) schools. They've been successful, though not at the top of the heap.  It all comes down to your connections for afterwards.  I won't be recruited by Microsoft, but I'll definitely be with people I know, making decent money.

That's not to say I haven't been busting my ass studying and taking practice tests.

[Flannel Boy]

NOTE: I'm not an American, but I know there's an insane amount of variance among law schools. In Canada, the median LSAT scores of the worst common law schools are only about five or seven points lower than the top schools. In the US, the median LSAT scores of the worst schools are about 25 points lower than the top schools.

And, yes, you can be successful by going to a shitty law school; it's just a lot harder. 

Thomas Cooley is a joke, right?

[Don Flamenco]

Yeah, Thomas Cooley is a joke...I won't do that bad.  They actually give a 50% scholarship for a 151    but still, they're accredited...someone could go there, kick ass and finish in the top of their class, and make a nice career for themselves.  Sounds like the competition is definitely tougher in Canada.

What kind of law are you going into Night man?

[Smooth Groove]

Damn, I didn't know the median salary for laywers is that low.   I wonder if my friend regrets going from USC med school to a 3rd tier law school. 

[Tristam]

Cooley is the running joke of law school discussion forums -- although if the passive-aggressive nature of the posters there is an indication of my future colleagues' temperaments, maybe law isn't such an attractive field after all.

Anyway, I'm not planning to take the LSAT till June. I prefer to wait one application cycle between undergrad and law school for many reasons (most importantly, the June LSAT gives me a month of study uninterrupted by midterms or finals).

[Flannel Boy]

What kind of law are you going into Night man?

Have no clue.

[Smooth Groove]

What kind of law are you going into Night man?

Have no clue.

Would you consider getting a MBA as well?  A MBA seems to be a nice supplement to a Law degree.

[Don Flamenco]

Cooley is the running joke of law school discussion forums -- although if the passive-aggressive nature of the posters there is an indication of my future colleagues' temperaments, maybe law isn't such an attractive field after all.

Anyway, I'm not planning to take the LSAT till June. I prefer to wait one application cycle between undergrad and law school for many reasons (most importantly, the June LSAT gives me a month of study uninterrupted by midterms or finals).

yeah, it's definitely a joke of a school right now, but I bet in 10 years (or less) it'll be more respectable.  They offer some seriously competitive scholarships, like the one I mentioned earlier, so I'm sure they're landing some excellent students who just don't want to pay out the ass for school.  John Marshall in Chicago was the same way.  It still has ridiculously low requirements, but a good rep among judges and lawyers in the city. It was ranked like 3rd or 4th in a U.S. News in a category I can't remember right now...might have been legal writing.  IIT-Kent was also like 3rd or 4th tier about 15 years ago, but now it's first tier.   

Not to defend Cooley, what matters is how a school is when you're applying and not how good it might be when you're done, but a lot of people just lack perspective when it comes to law schools...of course, there are the few who can talk shit because they actually will land 173+ and have 3.8+ gpas    From my brief scans, it seemed like there were a lot of people on those law school forums who thought that anything but top 10 of tier 1 is shit.  and if they're anything like some of my friends and other people I know at school who are taking the LSAT/applying to law school, they're trying to psyche people out and aren't really that confident/smart.  It's really lame, but law school entrance is very competitive.  I don't even talk with people about the LSAT other than "yeah, it's a pain in the ass" etc.  

[Smooth Groove]

I don't think it's just about grades when you're talking about top 10 Law schools.  A friend got into Harvard law mostly because he was student body president.  The friend who dropped out of Med school to go to Law school, had incredible LSAT scores but were rejected from the top schools because they were worried about her commitment to Law.   

[Tristam]

I don't think it's just about grades when you're talking about top 10 Law schools.  A friend got into Harvard law mostly because he was student body president.  The friend who dropped out of Med school to go to Law school, had incredible LSAT scores but were rejected from the top schools because they were worried about her commitment to Law.   

Yale and Stanford admissions are really the only ones referred to as "black boxes" -- most students are distinguished in some way beyond their LSAT scores and GPAs. But with every other school it's all in the numbers that they submit to the U.S. News & World Report. LSAT & GPA are more reliable predictors of acceptance to Harvard than they are Yale or Stanford, despite HLS's #2 ranking -- to get into Yale or Stanford you need to be a fireman or an internationally ranked Minesweeper player or some shit like that.

[Don Flamenco]

Even on the lsat, you can write hentai fanfic in the essay portion and schools will be like "hey, that was pretty gross...but you got a 170, welcome aboard, here's a check!"

[MrAngryFace]

I never took the SAT lol

[CajoleJuice]

MAF sticking it to the man.

[MrAngryFace]

BOOM! COMMUNITY FUK COLLEGE BOOM

[drew]

I never took the SAT lol

I took both standardized tests.

 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

from behind

[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)

by force

[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)

up the butt

[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)

ps: The hippo is the SAT & ACT,  I'm the cat.

[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)

[close]