Sam Raimi Offered...THE HOBBIT

[Cheebs]

http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=17672

TheOneRing.net is pretty trustworthy, they annouced Jackson's statement that he isn't directing the Hobbit before anyone else.

WILLCOOOOO THOUGHTS?

[mikesphat]

it will never get better than the cartoon version...

[Phoenix Dark]

I'd much rather see Jackson do it.

"TheOneRing.Net has a new scoop on the ongoing Hobbit Movie saga, sourced from elbenwald.de. Apparently the rights to make the Hobbit film fall back to Saul Zaentz 'next year.' He claims that, under their stewardship, The Hobbit will 'definitely be shot by Peter Jackson.' For the whippersnappers amongst you: Mr. Zaentz is the head honcho of Tolkien Enterprises, which originally acquired exclusive rights to productions of the LOTR and Hobbit material in 1976, prior to overseeing the Bakshi animated version of LOTR."

http://slashdot.org/articles/06/11/23/1325212.shtml

Wha

[Lonestar]

No one gives a shit about The Hobbit. 

[ToxicAdam]

Pixar 'The Hobbit' would have been awesome.

[Phoenix Dark]

Pixar 'The Hobbit' would have been awesome.

True

[Cheebs]

I'd much rather see Jackson do it.

"TheOneRing.Net has a new scoop on the ongoing Hobbit Movie saga, sourced from elbenwald.de. Apparently the rights to make the Hobbit film fall back to Saul Zaentz 'next year.' He claims that, under their stewardship, The Hobbit will 'definitely be shot by Peter Jackson.' For the whippersnappers amongst you: Mr. Zaentz is the head honcho of Tolkien Enterprises, which originally acquired exclusive rights to productions of the LOTR and Hobbit material in 1976, prior to overseeing the Bakshi animated version of LOTR."

http://slashdot.org/articles/06/11/23/1325212.shtml

Wha

It reverts to them if it doesnt START filming in a year. New Line realizes this and that is why they are going full speed ahead with this. They want to film it next summer.

[The Fake Shemp]

I think it's a bad idea and I think Raimi would be a fool to tackle such a franchise.  He'd live in the shadow of Jackson, if not completely collapse under it and could ruin his career (which is pretty much now set to CAN MAKE WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT).

[Phoenix Dark]

I'd much rather see Jackson do it.

"TheOneRing.Net has a new scoop on the ongoing Hobbit Movie saga, sourced from elbenwald.de. Apparently the rights to make the Hobbit film fall back to Saul Zaentz 'next year.' He claims that, under their stewardship, The Hobbit will 'definitely be shot by Peter Jackson.' For the whippersnappers amongst you: Mr. Zaentz is the head honcho of Tolkien Enterprises, which originally acquired exclusive rights to productions of the LOTR and Hobbit material in 1976, prior to overseeing the Bakshi animated version of LOTR."

http://slashdot.org/articles/06/11/23/1325212.shtml

Wha

It reverts to them if it doesnt START filming in a year. New Line realizes this and that is why they are going full speed ahead with this. They want to film it next summer.

New Line is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged. I can't wait until this bombs

[Cheebs]

I'd much rather see Jackson do it.

"TheOneRing.Net has a new scoop on the ongoing Hobbit Movie saga, sourced from elbenwald.de. Apparently the rights to make the Hobbit film fall back to Saul Zaentz 'next year.' He claims that, under their stewardship, The Hobbit will 'definitely be shot by Peter Jackson.' For the whippersnappers amongst you: Mr. Zaentz is the head honcho of Tolkien Enterprises, which originally acquired exclusive rights to productions of the LOTR and Hobbit material in 1976, prior to overseeing the Bakshi animated version of LOTR."

http://slashdot.org/articles/06/11/23/1325212.shtml

Wha

It reverts to them if it doesnt START filming in a year. New Line realizes this and that is why they are going full speed ahead with this. They want to film it next summer.

New Line is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged. I can't wait until this bombs

People said the same thing about X-Men III. The average movie goer doesn't care nor know of behind the scenes drama nor cares about reviews.

It will do good business, unless Raimi makes Bilbo be played by Bruce Cambell or something. The same who predict this movies boxoffice failure predicted the same of Ratner's X-Men.

Could this rushed hobbit suck? Yes. It will still make around 300 million. Even Narnia was able to do that kind of numbers.

[Ecrofirt]

If Bruce played Bilbo, I'd buy 50 tickets.

[Cheebs]

If Bruce played Bilbo, I'd buy 50 tickets.

Bruce will be in it, but what role!

[The Sceneman]

This thread sucks

[Disposable White Guy]

If Bruce played Bilbo, I'd buy 50 tickets.

Bruce will be in it, but what role!

The voice of Smaug!

[Solo]

  @ this thread
It doesnt matter who directs the movie really. This is a movie that will be seen by the masses who saw LOTR, who probably didnt know or care who directed the LOTR trilogy. Im talking box office revenue-wise here. I could direct this movie and it would cross $300M. Its got the casual movie going crowd already embedded as fans.

The majority of movie goers arent film buffs, and dont know/care who is the director/writer/cinematographer/editor/etc. Its sad for those of us that are movie buffs, but its definately true.

[Cheebs]

@ this thread
It doesnt matter who directs the movie really. This is a movie that will be seen by the masses who saw LOTR, who probably didnt know or care who directed the LOTR trilogy. Im talking box office revenue-wise here. I could direct this movie and it would cross $300M. Its got the casual movie going crowd already embedded as fans.

The majority of movie goers arent film buffs, and dont know/care who is the director/writer/cinematographer/editor/etc. Its sad for those of us that are movie buffs, but its definately true.

I have been saying that as well. The internets film "experts" doesn't get that.

I  mean I can't believe people are like this after X-Men 3. EVERYTHING that could go wrong on that film went wrong. Rushed schedule, last minute director's who isn't liked by the "geek" community, most major characters killed off..etc. And it did better than the previous two films.

Sam Raimi is no Brett Ratner.

You guys over-estimate the appeal of PJ. After LOTR people thought of him as the new George Lucas(OT era at least) and Spielberg. They predicted cause of his name power King Kong might even outdo TITANTIC. And people honestly thought that. It made 200 million, good yes, but it was crushed by Narnia and the numbers weren't close to Lucas or Spielberg at his height.

Tolkien's work bring in 300+ million, Jackson doesn't.

[The Fake Shemp]

Cheebs, you have to be a moron if you don't think Jackson is directly tied into the success of LOTR.  Tolkien's name might've secured a $60 million gross, but if it was a shit film, it'd make shit numbers.  Jackson is a recognizable director, as in the household person can point him out in the streets - that's huge.  Jackson not being on The Hobbit would be a lot different than X-Men, because most people couldn't point out Bryan Singer.  He's nowhere near that hemisphere.

[The Fake Shemp]

The fact that a piece of shit like King Kong could do $200 million is proof positive of that, not against it.

[Phoenix Dark]

Kong did $550 million worldwide. It wasn't a bomb.

If the LOTR films were bad it would have effected them in the boxoffice. People would not have sat through movies as long as those if they didn't feel confidant the movies would be good; luckily for New Line, the movies were very good, and they gained a huge audience who wasn't familiar with the books. Trust me, if FOTR sucked the franchise might have pulled a Matrix, but on a bigger level. The first Matrix movie was awesome, and people went into the sequel expecting good things. The movie wasn't good, and large audiences didn't come back for the third movie

[Fatghost28]

Bruce Campbell is the only man who could make the Hobbit work.


We should start a petition.

[Cheebs]

Willco I'll bet you...uh something that if Raimi directs The Hobbit that it will make at least 280 million.

[The Fake Shemp]

It's a completely irrelevant comparison since he'd be directing an established franchise at that point.  There's a huge difference.  If it was the first live action Tolkien adaptation - we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

And even if Raimi was at the helm, if the movie sucked, it would not do $280 million.  There's not the fervor to push a mediocre franchise to huge numbers like there was with Star Wars.  It's too new.  It'd be like The Matrix all over again.

LOTR did gangbusters not just because it's based on a popular literary work, but because it crossed over to the mainstream.  It brought it way more people than bookworms and the age demographic was expansive.

[Phoenix Dark]

It's a completely irrelevant comparison since he'd be directing an established franchise at that point.  There's a huge difference.  If it was the first live action Tolkien adaptation - we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

And even if Raimi was at the helm, if the movie sucked, it would not do $280 million.  There's not the fervor to push a mediocre franchise to huge numbers like there was with Star Wars.  It's too new.  It'd be like The Matrix all over again.

LOTR did gangbusters not just because it's based on a popular literary work, but because it crossed over to the mainstream.  It brought it way more people than bookworms and the age demographic was expansive.

Playing devil's advocate: how do you explain the success of The Da Vinci Code, which was blasted by critics but still reaped millions upon millions of dollars in gross?

[The Fake Shemp]

The Da Vinci Code is more than just a popular book; it was a pop culture phenomenon and they struck while the iron was hot with a hugely bankable star.  Plus, most critics had problems getting early screenings, hence the very frontloaded opening.

It's similar to The Exorcist.  Look how huge that was in its heyday despite production problems and graphic nature for its time.  It rode the huge sensation that was the novel to box office millions.

[Diablos]

del

[Phoenix Dark]

The Da Vinci Code is more than just a popular book; it was a pop culture phenomenon and they struck while the iron was hot with a hugely bankable star.  Plus, most critics had problems getting early screenings, hence the very frontloaded opening.

It's similar to The Exorcist.  Look how huge that was in its heyday despite production problems and graphic nature for its time.  It rode the huge sensation that was the novel to box office millions.

*claps*