Mirror's Edge demo: Tomorrow on PSN, Friday on XBL

[AdmiralViscen]

The demo was boring but the actual mission was amazing

I didn't have much problem with the bumpers.

[Darunia]

I thought I'd have issues with the default control mapping, but I didn't. The shoulder button control scheme works really well, even with bumper for jump

[Jansen]

wasn't ps3 the lead platform? why does it look better on 360?

and the controls were fine. must suck ass to convince yourself to buy the inferior console version.

[Beezy]

Fuck, this game owns. I'm gonna have to get it somehow.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

wasn't ps3 the lead platform? why does it look better on 360?

Man I hope Sony hurries up with my PS3 repair.  I kinda like comparing big games like this.

[Bebpo]

Tried the X360 demo.  Still looks jaggy but less jaggy so maybe 2x AA?
Hated the control though, was getting much slower times with the X360 controller.  Who wants to play a game where the majority of commands are hitting LB while holding up on the analogue.  Far too cramped for comfort.  Should've switched jump to LT and slide to LB since you jump more than you slide.

If I had a decent spec PC I think I'd go for the PC version with a USB PS2 controller.

[cool breeze]

Yeah, 360 game looked slightly better (still jaggies and all that, just slightly less) and it could just be me, but the loading times also seemed to be a bit better.  And while you guys are fine with using the bumpers and all that, I had big time problems with it.  I'm sticking to getting it on the PS3, then picking it up on Steam when there is a sale.

[Vizzys]

from the comparison (offscreen) pics ive seen the x360 version is much less jaggy

[cool breeze]

Yeah, I actually like the LB/LR combo, because jump feels like a tappy-tappy move, whereas sliding is more of a long, sticking move by nature.

The jump/up button isn't just tapping.  When wall climbing/running you need to hold it to get more distance.

[Sho Nuff]

Tried 360 ver, not nearly as jaggy

[patrickula]

If there's a Steam release I'll probably get that.  I'll try the 360 demo and see how it feels.

[Jansen]

so much for leading on ps3 for multiplatform games

[cool breeze]

The point of that is make the PS3 version comparable, not exactly superior.  Efforts to port from 360 to PS3 fail because it's porting from something simple to something complex and shit gets lost in the process.

[Smooth Groove]

wasn't ps3 the lead platform? why does it look better on 360?

Duckman pwned!

Genghis Cohen

Cohen called it. 

[Van Cruncheon]

because the 360 is more powerful

i'm impressed when they get ps3 versions on parity with the 360 ones

[TVC15]

The only place that jaggies were really nagging for me were on thin lines, like cable-esque things.  But heck, most of the time you are moving so fast that it's not noticeable at all.

I liked what I played, but I'm not sure how much I dug the controls mapped to the shoulder buttons and triggers.  The 360 shoulder buttons are the only other weak link on the 360 controller aside from the d-pad.

[drohne]

360 version is definitely cleaner -- maybe the kind of edge AA on static geometry that gears uses? dunno about the shoulder buttons, though...and i was kicking myself the last time i went iq over controller. eh, who cares. the point is that this game has preemptively killed the new tomb raider, which is still trying to imitate the last big thing in 3d platforming. the new prince game is dead too

DAY ONE

[Bebpo]

360 version is definitely cleaner -- maybe the kind of edge AA on static geometry that gears uses? dunno about the shoulder buttons, though...and i was kicking myself the last time i went iq over controller. eh, who cares. the point is that this game has preemptively killed the new tomb raider, which is still trying to imitate the last big thing in 3d platforming. the new prince game is dead too

DAY ONE

I haven't been following any of the impressions but the pictures are BEAUTIFUL.  I really want this game to be great like SoT and not totally shit like AC.

[TVC15]

I'm wary on PoP.  Always have been.  It looks pretty, but something about only 1-on-1 combat seems eh to me. 

[Bebpo]

I'm wary on PoP.  Always have been.  It looks pretty, but something about only 1-on-1 combat seems eh to me. 

PoP has never been about combat though.  It never should be.  The point of PoP is to platformer through deadly traps with occasional battle against a guard or in this case monster.

[Smooth Groove]

360 version is definitely cleaner -- maybe the kind of edge AA on static geometry that gears uses? dunno about the shoulder buttons, though...and i was kicking myself the last time i went iq over controller. eh, who cares. the point is that this game has preemptively killed the new tomb raider, which is still trying to imitate the last big thing in 3d platforming. the new prince game is dead too

DAY ONE

I haven't been following any of the impressions but the pictures are BEAUTIFUL.  I really want this game to be great like SoT and not totally shit like AC.

What's Sot?  Do you mean Shadow of the Colossus?  I hope not 'cause that game was shit. 

[demi]

Sands of Time, doofus

[brawndolicious]

the graphics are beautiful but they do get a little jaggy at times.  still one of the best looking games this gen imo.

the controls are very technical and do pretty much everything different than any other FPS.  it's one of the better platformers I've played because every move just feels so perfect when you finally learn how to pull it off.  sucks about having to pre-order to get the time trial code though.

[MrAngryFace]

I for one cant wait for the backlash!

[Bildi]

I wasn't bothered by any jagginess - it seemed very minimal and I didn't notice it while playing.  I really liked the LB/LT combo - I used my index finger for both though because I despise using four fingers (except for SSX).

[TVC15]

I for one cant wait for the backlash!

I predict that the game will be like 3 hours long.

[cool breeze]

I'm wary on PoP.  Always have been.  It looks pretty, but something about only 1-on-1 combat seems eh to me. 

Yeah, combat seems shitty, but everything else seems great.  Well, except for the prince being the exact same character as Nathan Drake or the character from Assassin's Creed (the future one).  I think them making the combat 1 vs 1 means it will be rare, which is a good thing.

[demi]

Achievements dont look so bad. Hopefully you can replay levels and get hidden bags you missed.

[Beezy]

I want this game now

[cool breeze]

I for one cant wait for the backlash!

It had a semi-backlash back when someone falsely reported that it was a PS3 exclusive from 360 fans, but yeah, there will totally be a backlash.  

[Don Flamenco]

I'm wary on PoP.  Always have been.  It looks pretty, but something about only 1-on-1 combat seems eh to me. 

PoP has never been about combat though.  It never should be.  The point of PoP is to platformer through deadly traps with occasional battle against a guard or in this case monster.

But this one lets your girlfriend do the platforming for you.

[drohne]

time trial mode is FUCKING AWESOME, but some of the combinations of wall runs and wall jumps and tucks just require too much controller dexterity. it's like doing a difficult combo in a fighting game -- even if you know exactly what to do, you'll only get it right once every three times. i've got three stars on the first course, but the second is frustrating the hell out of me -- i've got to be missing at least one shortcut, and bypassing those stairs at the beginning is an epic pain in the ass
 
GOTF in any case

[Beezy]

I couldn't do the jump and tuck over the barb wire on the training course. Took me like 10 tries.

[hyp]

fuckin love DICE.  best game since battlefield 1942 or rallisport challenge.  hell, i fucking want this.

me love it long time.

[duckman2000]

wasn't ps3 the lead platform? why does it look better on 360?

Duckman pwned!

Genghis Cohen

Cohen called it. 

The hell? All I said was that lead platform doesn't necessarily mean anything in terms of quality, just a smarter development path. Again, you are the GOP of the console war.

Anyway, it's certainly humorous to see the common xtards declare Great Victory here. As if the version of Great Victory wasn't a jagged pile itself. But then again, Xtards are less refined and obviously can't be trusted to make judgment calls on the quality of anything, given their preference for a garbage system (with shit UI). So hey, maybe they really don't see any issues.

[duckman2000]

I couldn't do the jump and tuck over the barb wire on the training course. Took me like 10 tries.

That particular move actually made the game feel too, er, gamey. It felt like it should have been an automatic motion.

[duckman2000]

Dead Space

[duckman2000]

Dead Space

I thought you didn't like zombie games

I also don't like shooters, except the ones that interest me.

[duckman2000]

I'm starting to think I'm going to have to wait for the PC version of ME (or just rent one of the console versions for now). It looks hot, but the idea of playing this without jaggies is becoming quite attractive. Any new info on PC release date?

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

I don't have my PS3 so I can't compare but from what I played of the 360 game there didn't seem to be a jaggy problem.  Don't know what the issue is here.

[drohne]

That particular move actually made the game feel too, er, gamey. It felt like it should have been an automatic motion.

yeah, sequences of wall jumps can feel like abstract videogamey button gymnastics. i was thinking that they should either automate the wallturn or the tuck -- but there are certainly situations where you want to jump off a wall without turning, and there may be situations where you don't want to tuck (i.e. to fall slightly short on a jump and grab the ledge). and the relative lack of automation is one of the things i like about the game. so i'm just going to hope that it starts to feel more natural when you get used to it

edit: come to think of it, there's a situation right at the beginning of the second time trial where you don't want to tuck: if you tuck on the first walljump, you don't really have space to make the second walljump -- that little loss of momentum as you land is desirable

[fistfulofmetal]

YES FUCKING FINALLY
46.9 On Edge.
I wish there was a way to watch your replay Halo 3 style. I gotta bask in this shit for awhile.

[cool breeze]

YES FUCKING FINALLY
46.9 On Edge.
I wish there was a way to watch your replay Halo 3 style. I gotta bask in this shit for awhile.

Yeah, I really wish that was in the game.  I wish I could also just watch someone elses run and learn from it.

actually, I thought it was pretty cool how I kept improving because I wanted to keep up with the ghost to learn the movements.  the most tense thing is hearing them doing actions at the exact same moment as you and just making sure not to choke.

[Mrbob]

Yeah I think I might tell Gears of War 2 to go get fucked and get this instead.

Not sure which version to get though.  I like the shoulder buttons on the PS3 better, but I like the analog sticks better on 360. 

[brawndolicious]

Yeah, I really wish that was in the game.  I wish I could also just watch someone elses run and learn from it.

For the time trial mode, I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that you can download ghosts and see their red "footprints".  they probably didn't put it in the demo for fear of giving it too much replayability.

[Mrbob]

Video of time trial mode here:



Mirrors Edge

[fistfulofmetal]

I would also like online competitive races. Just have your competitor be the ghost so there's no bumping into each other. I would imagine racing against an actual person in ghost form would be more fun than against someones best run at that given time.

For the time trial mode, I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that you can download ghosts and see their red "footprints".  they probably didn't put it in the demo for fear of giving it too much replayability.

You can view their footprints in the demo. They aren't permanent, but they are there.
Though nothing can replace watching an actual ghost at different angles from the third person.

Video of time trial mode here:



Mirrors Edge

Hm. I do pretty much that. I do the wall jumps over the stairs, run along the edge of the building the make the big jump. THe only thing that's different is that I don't jump completely over the railing onto the big boxes with fans on it.

I'm betting if I do that I can probably get my time down to 45 because the way I do it takes about a second-half second longer.

[Mrbob]

PS3 version of Mirrors Edge also has better audio, so this is a plus.

Have faith run at full sprint, you can hear the difference.  Plus enviromental effects are more noticeable. 

[cool breeze]

Yeah, I really wish that was in the game.  I wish I could also just watch someone elses run and learn from it.

For the time trial mode, I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that you can download ghosts and see their red "footprints".  they probably didn't put it in the demo for fear of giving it too much replayability.

you can do that, but they can outrun you fairly quickly.  the foot steps also don't reveal a lot about what they were doing.

[Tieno]

I changed the color spectrum of my 360 from expanded to intermediate and that seemed to work a bit to get a better image. After playing the PS3 version again it does have more jaggies but the HDMI seemed to give a better color spectrum, especially in shadows. Don't know how to fix this for 360, I just got PS3 settings for my TV from the avs forums and they're very good. The 360 settings seem like a small step down or it's the difference between VGA and HDMI.

[The Fake Shemp]

Really impressed by it, but I don't like to create a backlog of games, so this and Prince of Persia will have to wait 'till the bargain bin or a slow time next year.

[Tieno]

Wow at the time attack video, lots of shortcuts I didn't even see. Makes me want to play the demo AGAIN! But I'm going to force myself not to touch the demo again so I don't get burned out on it before I already have it.

[drohne]

46.64 on the second timetrial fuck yeah

that youtube video gave me the trick i needed -- namely running along the edge of that first rooftop

[abrader]

wow I really hated this demo.

I think ill pass for sure.


EDIT: Ill try it again like tomorrow or something - but first impression is MEH

[Cormacaroni]

I changed the color spectrum of my 360 from expanded to intermediate and that seemed to work a bit to get a better image. After playing the PS3 version again it does have more jaggies but the HDMI seemed to give a better color spectrum, especially in shadows. Don't know how to fix this for 360, I just got PS3 settings for my TV from the avs forums and they're very good. The 360 settings seem like a small step down or it's the difference between VGA and HDMI.

please share the PS3 settings!

i have a HDMI 360 so might do a compare later. The PS3 demo IS a bit jaggy but OMG so fun.

[MCD]

i didn't like it.

i will stick with prince of persia and tomb raider underworld for my platforming needs.

[Van Cruncheon]

yeah, i tried it last night and it didn't click -- sorry, cohen :'(

edit: i should qualify -- i just don't really groove on platforming/parkour in first-person, it seems. it all seemed choppy and migraine-inducing, to me, and there weren't any cool "vertigo" moments in the demo, ala pure or hydro thunder. i also really, really dislike having jump/slide on the left shoulder buttons.

[cool breeze]

If you just hate it on the left side, you can switch them to be on the right.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

I like that you can turn the red off. It makes the game too obvious and "follow the red." This game is basically PoP in first person, which is pretty neat. I don't imagine the no gun achievement being hard to get, considering the guns are fucking useless.

[Tieno]

I changed the color spectrum of my 360 from expanded to intermediate and that seemed to work a bit to get a better image. After playing the PS3 version again it does have more jaggies but the HDMI seemed to give a better color spectrum, especially in shadows. Don't know how to fix this for 360, I just got PS3 settings for my TV from the avs forums and they're very good. The 360 settings seem like a small step down or it's the difference between VGA and HDMI.

please share the PS3 settings!

i have a HDMI 360 so might do a compare later. The PS3 demo IS a bit jaggy but OMG so fun.

Unless you have the same TV, I doubt they will do you much. Check the http://www.avsforum.com/ for a thread about your TV and look for optimized PS3 or Xbox 360 settings. It really did wonders for my PS3 and Blu-Ray image.