What's so great about 3D Zelda?

[Don Flamenco]

I'm throwing down the gauntlet EB. 

The 2D zelda's have been fun.  The original was one of the first memorable classics after SMB1.  LTTP and Minish Cap kept my interest. 

3D Zelda, on the other hand, is really mediocre.  discuss.

[Jansen]

i thought OoT was awesome back when it came out. course i was a stoner then and i thought almost everything was awesome. i hated WW and didn't care for TP very much.

so maybe i agree?

[Barry Egan]

Majora's Mask is amazing to this day.  The rest are kind of bland, and Twilight Princess was boredom defined.

[cool breeze]

I disagree, but I can't really explain why in words.  My favorite games Zelda games, both 3D and 2D ones.

[Rman]

Zelda's a great series, but it is definitely getting long in tooth.  I thought that Ocarina of Time was going to be pure crap based on previews at the time, but it ended up surprising me in a positive way.  I would say my favorite Zelda is also one of the most overlooked, Link's Awakening.  I loved the charm, the side scrolling sections, the tight and cleverly designed overworld, and the castaway theme.

I never played the Oracle games or Mimish cap unfortunately.  Here's hoping thye get rereleased somehow, somewhere.

[DJ_Tet]

ZoOT is 10/10 but 'beatles suck'


Prole

[Phoenix Dark]

I still haven't played the new one, despite cumming over it once it was revealed. God dammit

[archie4208]

I still haven't played the new one, despite cumming over it once it was revealed. God dammit

You played OOT, right?  It's basically the same thing.

[Don Flamenco]

I thought TP took some good steps, with some unique items and puzzles, as well as some cool character designs.  but then it was like a million hours long, with a completely unrewarding overworld that only offered rupees you didn't want. 

............it needs a lush, detailed HD game with more than just "go to dungeon A, solve puzzle with Item A, defeat boss with item." 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

The Wind Waker is the only Zelda game that I can still go back and play to this day even if it falls completely apart towards the end and the sailing is monotonous as all hell.  I'm pretty indiferent to the Zelda series as a whole though.  

[CurseoftheGods]

I still haven't played the new one, despite cumming over it once it was revealed. God dammit

You're not missing much.

[Mupepe]

majora's mask rocks.  but they're horribly designed games in general.  play fable 2: zelda with ambition instead

[Greatness Gone]

Majora's Mask is amazing. OoT is horrendous, WW is average and Twilight Princess is the worst 3D Zelda ever. Minish Cap is the only good 2D Zelda.

[drew]

Majora's Mask is amazing. OoT is horrendous, WW is average and Twilight Princess is the worst 3D Zelda ever. Minish Cap is the only good 2D Zelda.

/suicide

[Crushed]

MM > WW > OOT > TP


Although TP may be slightly better than OoT if you take out the nostalgia factor.

[drew]

talking about anything N64 is always a bad idea on EB

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OOT > TP > MM (never played wind waker)

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[Crushed]

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OOT > TP > MM (never played wind waker)

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holy shit it's like wrongness in text form

[Don Flamenco]

If you want to shit on a 3d nintendo game, please shit on metroid prime and mario 64.

Metroid Prime 1 is great!  Mario 64 = crap.  Another game that just got totally bland in the transition to 3D (though Galaxy is pretty awesome, but not on the level of SMW, SMB3, or YI.) 

[Van Cruncheon]

MM > WW > OOT > TP


Although TP may be slightly better than OoT if you take out the nostalgia factor.

for 2d:

alundra > oracles > links awakening > landstalker > og zelda > link to the past >>>>>>>>> zelda 2

[Purple Filth]

Z targeting.


Other from that they we "ok"

[Greatness Gone]

I love Alundra. Best 2D Zelda that isn't Zelda ever.

[drew]

Star Fox 64 > all you fegs

and if you shit on Super Mario 64 you obviously didn't play it in it's day

[Don Flamenco]

Christ no.  Metroid Prime is fucking terrible.  mario 64 is merely overrated, but nowhere near the excrement of Prime.  Please leper yourself.

nuh uh


haha, Alundra. 

LttP  >  Minish Cap >  Alunda >  Zelda 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Deadly Towers >  Zelda 2.

and if you shit on Super Mario 64 you obviously didn't play it in it's day

I did and 3D confused the shit out of me at the time.    

[drew]

* Drewsy shines his 120 star save file that you don't have

[Bildi]

Since there's a lot of lepering going on in this thread anyway:

Zelda 2 > all the other 2D Zeldas, particularly LttP.

Also, 3D Zelda > 2D Zelda.

[Positive Touch]

personally i like the npc character models

[cool breeze]

and if you shit on Super Mario 64 you obviously didn't play it in it's day

No, I'm pretty sure I played it the day it came out, and I was crushed it was so mediocre after the snes marios.  I care for maybe 2 3d platformers, and none of them are Mario 64.

Is it Banjo? it shouldn't be Banjo.

[Don Flamenco]

Since there's a lot of lepering going on in this thread anyway:

No lepering, just real talk.  Nintendo needs a reality check every once in a while.  as someone who actually grew up on these games, it's my duty to point out that 2D nintendo is the golden era and that 3D nintendo comes off as archaic.

[TakingBackSunday]

MM>TP>OoT>WW

[Bildi]

3D Zelda > 2D Zelda
3D Metroid > 2D Metroid
2D Mario > 3D Mario

Oh and SMB3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SMW.

Real talk.

[cool breeze]

SMW can't even begin to compare to SMB3

[drew]

Diddy Kong Racing > Turok > Goldeneye > Shadows of the Empire > Starfox 64 (w/ friends ) > Pilotwings 64 > Super Mario 64 > OOT > MM > Alien > Aliens

[BlueTsunami]

MM > WW > OOT > TP


Although TP may be slightly better than OoT if you take out the nostalgia factor.

for 2d:

alundra > oracles > links awakening > landstalker > og zelda > link to the past >>>>>>>>> zelda 2

Landstalker recommendation?

Makes me want to play it now... but I dont' think I have the finger dexterity of my childhood days  :'(

[demi]

* Drewsy shines his 120 star save file that you don't have

SMH

[drew]

advent rising etc etc

[Bildi]

Diddy Kong Racing > Turok > Goldeneye > Shadows of the Empire > Starfox 64 (w/ friends ) > Pilotwings 64 > Super Mario 64 > OOT > MM > Alien > Aliens

Although DKR is in the right place.

[drew]

That the worst list of videogames I've ever seen in my life, and I've seen Himuro's rpg rankings.

mirrors edge etc etc

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i was just a kid!

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[Himu]

Being in the third dimension makes some 3d Zelda puzzles and dungeons actually have depth, compared to the mostly - aside from Link's Awakening mostly - plain puzzles and dungeons in 2d Zelda.

[The Sceneman]

how anyone can defend OoT in this day and age is beyond me. Most overrated game ever. It wouldnt even be that bad if the was game just mediocre, but its easily the biggest piece of shit released in the 1990's

PS1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>N64

[Greatness Gone]

Well no shit.

MGS and FFVII-IX were better than 97% of the N64's library. The N64 had its moments though; Perfect Dark, Killer Instinct, Super Smash Bros., Majora's Mask etc.

[Himu]

how anyone can defend OoT in this day and age is beyond me. Most overrated game ever. It wouldnt even be that bad if the was game just mediocre, but its easily the biggest piece of shit released in the 1990's

PS1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>N64

I love ps1. It is my favorite system. But come on.

OoT was a great game. Probably still is, I won't know until I replay it this month for a 10 anniversary bash.

[The Sceneman]

F-Zero X and Mischief Makers are the best games on N64.

Time has not been kind to Goldeneye. Anyone that says that Goldeneye is still good hasnt actually played it in the past 9 years

[pilonv1]

3D Zelda (besides the non sailing parts of Wind Waker) are utter garbage. much like 3d metroids

[duckman2000]

Fable 2 shits all over Zelda

[recursivelyenumerable]

the dungeons in Majora.

FFVII-IX

aka the worst FF games.

[tiesto]

MM > WW > OOT > TP


Although TP may be slightly better than OoT if you take out the nostalgia factor.

for 2d:

alundra > oracles > links awakening > landstalker > og zelda > link to the past >>>>>>>>> zelda 2

Landstalker recommendation?

Makes me want to play it now... but I dont' think I have the finger dexterity of my childhood days  :'(

Landstalker is great, if you can get used to the isometric perspective and lack of shadows. Game is also extremely challenging too, I'll second a recommendation. Alundra is pure sex as well, the only problem with it is the music wasn't good

[Don Flamenco]

3D Zelda > 2D Zelda
3D Metroid > 2D Metroid
2D Mario > 3D Mario

Oh and SMB3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SMW.

Real talk.

agreed, except for the zelda part.

I think Metroid Prime 1 is my favorite Nintendo game from the N64, GC, and Wii. 

edit: wouldn't put SMB3 that far ahead SMW. 

[recursivelyenumerable]

go Impulse Tracker!

[DJ_Tet]

3d metroid > 2d metroid?  wtf?

3d zelda I could handle, as long as we get 2d zeldas on handhelds..


but killing 2d metroids killed my inner gamer...the last good metroid was Zero on GBA.


Oh and YI >>> SMB3 >>>>>>>SMW

[Himu]

YI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any 2d Mario

3d Zelda > 2d Zelda

2d Metroid > 3d Metroid

[OptimoPeach]

2D everything was better.

I liked OoT, though.

[Himu]

A lot of 2d games are overrated. Especially Zelda games. And I love Zelda.

[tiesto]

2D everything was better.

I liked OoT, though.

Yup, pretty much. I really liked Galaxy, OOT, and Twilight Princess... but generally Nintendo's 2D games were much better. Metroid Prime was boring.

[OptimoPeach]

A lot of 2d games are overrated. Especially Zelda games. And I love Zelda.

I could understand that sentiment in regards to Link's Awakening, but LttP?

[Don Flamenco]

I'd place 3D metroid only a little above 2D metroid.  That's only because I absolutely love the atmosphere in the MP games.

[Himu]

A lot of 2d games are overrated. Especially Zelda games. And I love Zelda.

I could understand that sentiment in regards to Link's Awakening, but LttP?

LttP overrated. Yeah. Link's Awakening rules though.

[Don Flamenco]

I think the worst part about all this is that the GBC/GBA could be depended on for 2D iterations, but the DS goes for even uglier and more bland versions of the 3D games.  NSMB, MP:H, and Z:PH are such abominations.

[Himu]

They really are.

[TakingBackSunday]

I didnt hate NSMB as much as you all did, but I hope if they ever make a sequel or progression of that game they get a bit more creative.

But yeah, PH is ugh.

Here's my probably wrong ranking of the Zelda games.

MM>Oracle games>TP>OoT>Link's Awakening>Minish Cap>WW>LttP>Zelda I>PH>Zelda II

[Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich]

I'm probably in the distinguished mentally-challenged minority that actually enjoyed zelda II. :'( game kept me company through many a summer day