Author Topic: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?  (Read 41223 times)

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y2kev

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well the old sonics werent on autopilot
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oh, is this one on-rails?

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One thing I don't get is the complaints about there not being enough "2D" sonic levels.  Now, I haven't played a Sonic game in ages, but I remember them being pretty short.  From what I have read, once you've finished you can skip the werewolf stuff and just replay the "2D" levels.  Sounds to me that those levels are cumulatively about the same length of past Sonic games, so you're basically getting a full "old-style" Sonic padded out with some crap.

It's not really old school Sonic. It's more similar to the Sonic Rush games, which basically are the next best thing.

And no, it's not on rails. Kev is just being facetious. :P

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i might pick this up at $30, then

i really liked the old sonic games on genesis, and i played a little of that dreamcast one which was ok

i did try the demo of the last one on 360  :yuck
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This looks amazing:



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Haters annihilated... I cant wait
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i could probably do without sonic talking
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^ I dunno how anyone can hate on the game after seeing that video.  That looks fun as hell.  The gfx and sense of speed are amazing.  Environments look great and colorful.  Definite rental
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^ I dunno how anyone can hate on the game after seeing that video.  That looks fun as hell.  The gfx and sense of speed are amazing.  Environments look great and colorful.  Definite rental

Have you not played a Sonic game in the last 10 years?? That's how they get you! They throw in a few parts that are totally freaking sweet, and then surround those awesome parts with a moat of bullshit. Can you survive long enough to get to the awesome parts, or does your will to live drown in the moat of distinguished mentally-challenged friends and Final Fantasy cutscenes? That's the metagame you play when you pick up a Sonic game.
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^ I dunno how anyone can hate on the game after seeing that video.  That looks fun as hell.  The gfx and sense of speed are amazing.  Environments look great and colorful.  Definite rental

Have you not played a Sonic game in the last 10 years?? That's how they get you! They throw in a few parts that are totally freaking sweet, and then surround those awesome parts with a moat of bullshit. Can you survive long enough to get to the awesome parts, or does your will to live drown in the moat of distinguished mentally-challenged friends and Final Fantasy cutscenes? That's the metagame you play when you pick up a Sonic game.
Come on, how bad could it be?
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As someone who has played and completed Sonic 2006, Unleashed is already leagues better. Nobody else here has done that. I am the best Sonic fan around. I even have this giant Sonic cardboard thing. It's pretty sweet. Cause I'm a big Sonic fan.

I also accurately predicted Sonic Rush was a complete disaster, btw.
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One thing I don't get is the complaints about there not being enough "2D" sonic levels.  Now, I haven't played a Sonic game in ages, but I remember them being pretty short.  From what I have read, once you've finished you can skip the werewolf stuff and just replay the "2D" levels.  Sounds to me that those levels are cumulatively about the same length of past Sonic games, so you're basically getting a full "old-style" Sonic padded out with some crap.

It's not really old school Sonic. It's more similar to the Sonic Rush games, which basically are the next best thing.

And no, it's not on rails. Kev is just being facetious. :P

I'm only half kidding. Saying Sonic Rush is the next best thing to old school Sonic is like saying, if they were your only options, that a shitcake is the next best thing to filet mignon.

The "speed burst" move is absolutely autopilot, but at least it looks pretty this time.
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^ I dunno how anyone can hate on the game after seeing that video.  That looks fun as hell.  The gfx and sense of speed are amazing.  Environments look great and colorful.  Definite rental

It looks like nice but also looks like there's hardly any gameplay.  Plus that video has no werehog.  You could take a video of a Nights Wii flying level and it'll look fine, but then the game is the black plague.

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Bunch of hatas. Can hear you from here. But all I hear is the flock of crows heading your way.

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How the fuck hard is it to make a 2D HD game, or 2.5D game, add actual platforming and no auto-pilot, auto-target enemies in succession, and keep the bottomless pits to a bare minimum? And of course, keep it Sonic, Tales and Knuckles, no gimmicky gameplay shit, no hubworlds.
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Sonic is lookin beefy
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That video looked good, Sonic Adventure 2 Sonic stage good.  It also didn't look totally automatic like the Wii verison.

I'll rent if there isn't a demo soon.

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That video looked pretty decent but I've be hearing that the WereSonic brawler portions take up about 60% of the game.
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That video just put me off completely. You know, in all seriousness, that it's never going to be that smooth to play. It's going to be just like Sonic Heroes, where you want to go through levels like that, but you inevitably hit something you didn't see, or fall off a jump, or bullshit like that.

I'm failing to see the improvements over the last couple of shitfests.
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That video just put me off completely. You know, in all seriousness, that it's never going to be that smooth to play. It's going to be just like Sonic Heroes, where you want to go through levels like that, but you inevitably hit something you didn't see, or fall off a jump, or bullshit like that.

I'm failing to see the improvements over the last couple of shitfests.

This.
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That video just put me off completely. You know, in all seriousness, that it's never going to be that smooth to play. It's going to be just like Sonic Heroes, where you want to go through levels like that, but you inevitably hit something you didn't see, or fall off a jump, or bullshit like that.

I'm failing to see the improvements over the last couple of shitfests.

Improvement #1: No dealing with bad camera
Improvement #2: WiP

Work in progress? Seriously? I'm all for taking polishing time into account, but this game isn't far enough away for any real improvement.

I will agree the camera looks better, but that's not enough for me to want to go through another shitty Sonic experience.
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Hey I'm glad you played it though

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I liked Adventure 1 and 2 also, but if you think back they were only a fraction of a good game.  To give Sega some credit, the ratio of good to shit has gotten better.  Adventure had one fifth, Adventure 2 had one third, then it kind of faded to black for a while and now Unleashed is supposedly half a good game.

Hey I'm glad you played it though

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 :lol Your boundless optimism for Sonic is awesome.
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The Knuckles/Rogue sections can suck a fat cock though.

I think there's pictures of that on Deviant Art.
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Sonic Adventure wasn't too bad.  The Big section kind of sucked but once you got the hang of the crap controls, that part of the game was a little fun.

Sonic Adventure 2 just made the good parts better but the bad parts worse.
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I will say that Sonic games almost consistently have amazing music and Unleashed doesn't seem to be an exception.

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I just got it from Gamefly! So excited  :hyper :hyper ENDLESS POSSIBILITY
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Sonic is fast. REALLY FAST, almost a little fast, I like that when you spin Sonic around he makes a blur. The whole time I was playing I never felt like I wasn't in control,the jumps,the slides, everything I did felt as if it was up to me. The werehog stages aren't bad at all, I rather enjoyed them. I kinda suck at the timing though so I died a couple of times. I've done 3 stages so far, 1 Daytime and 2 Nighttime. I also did a Tornado minigame which I also suck at but it's fun. I'm most likely going to send it back tommorow, I actually really want it.

I got one achivement too!  :hyper
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Haha, another shitty friend. Only this time it has amnesia so we dont know its name!
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y2kev

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Junpei's seal of approval

congrats sega
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It looks pretty good. Nice and clean. I can only get a B on stages. It's hard to align yourself to get rings when you're blazing through. What does the random beeping you hear occasionally mean? The loading isn't as awful as 2006. I haven't installed it yet.
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Achievements are more giving than Sonic 06's was. There's only a few achievements related to coin collecting. And you only need 1 S rank in a level, unlike 2006's S-rank every level.
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back in the mail
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Werehog levels aren't as offensive as they should be. Almost got a 99 combo, got to 85.
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lol sonic.

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Game is way better than 06. Probably the best Sonic game since... uh - Adventure I guess? Well the best 3D sonic. I will beat.
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I got a E on the ice stage  :(  This game is so good!
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Also I have the Japanese voices on. Chip's voice is soooooooooooooo kawaiii  :heartbeat :heartbeat
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Junpei is serial.

demi

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Got my S-rank on the second werehog level. Apparently it keeps your score from the last time you died, because I still got a score of over 300000 even though I died at the very last check point.
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a letter grading system?

no wonder you like this

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I think someone is a little mad that DMC4 is the best game ever
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Not a sign of a shitty friend yet
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there's no reason to buy this and encourage sega further when there are actual good games worth spending your money on out right now

Yes.

Also that youtube up above your post looks like shit. They've managed to make the Dreamcast-era gameplay even MORE linear and brainless. Something akin to Sonic Adventure 1 I would be willing to buy, but I raelly don't want to just run 90mph automatically and press A now and then. Even time trials would be a waste of time with how much of that is completely scripted. Also, it's 5 and a half minutes long, fuck off with that.

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I recently finished Rooftop Hill. I got a D, I suck. This game is awesome.

there's no reason to buy this and encourage sega further when there are actual good games worth spending your money on out right now

Yes.

Also that youtube up above your post looks like shit. They've managed to make the Dreamcast-era gameplay even MORE linear and brainless. Something akin to Sonic Adventure 1 I would be willing to buy, but I raelly don't want to just run 90mph automatically and press A now and then. Even time trials would be a waste of time with how much of that is completely scripted. Also, it's 5 and a half minutes long, fuck off with that.

The majority of the stage isn't scripted, it just looks that way. You're in control.
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I recently finished Rooftop Hill. I got a D, I suck. This game is awesome.

there's no reason to buy this and encourage sega further when there are actual good games worth spending your money on out right now

Yes.

Also that youtube up above your post looks like shit. They've managed to make the Dreamcast-era gameplay even MORE linear and brainless. Something akin to Sonic Adventure 1 I would be willing to buy, but I raelly don't want to just run 90mph automatically and press A now and then. Even time trials would be a waste of time with how much of that is completely scripted. Also, it's 5 and a half minutes long, fuck off with that.

The majority of the stage isn't scripted, it just looks that way. You're in control.

By control you mean holding forward.

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Demi, chip is a shitty friend and you get him in the first cutscene. And tails shows up in level 2.

Two nighttime stages in a row forced me to put this back in the mailbox. shite binne.
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Ew

Is there gonna be a demo?

BTW MAF I downloaded the demo for Valkyria Chronicles or whatever the fuck cuz you kept talking about it.

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I recently finished Rooftop Hill. I got a D, I suck. This game is awesome.

there's no reason to buy this and encourage sega further when there are actual good games worth spending your money on out right now

Yes.

Also that youtube up above your post looks like shit. They've managed to make the Dreamcast-era gameplay even MORE linear and brainless. Something akin to Sonic Adventure 1 I would be willing to buy, but I raelly don't want to just run 90mph automatically and press A now and then. Even time trials would be a waste of time with how much of that is completely scripted. Also, it's 5 and a half minutes long, fuck off with that.

The majority of the stage isn't scripted, it just looks that way. You're in control.

By control you mean holding forward.

At times yes but I just want people to know that it's not: Hold Forward + Press a couple of buttons= WIN because it's not. But I like DoC so...yeah.

Demi, chip is a shitty friend and you get him in the first cutscene. And tails shows up in level 2.

Two nighttime stages in a row forced me to put this back in the mailbox. shite binne.

Chip is not a shitty friend. He's cute, how could you not like Chip? Tails is cool too. I could understand if you had to play with them and the gameplay was horrible but you don't. Amy Rose shows up too.

IT'S GOOD TO ME GODDAMMIT  :'(
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Ew

Is there gonna be a demo?

BTW MAF I downloaded the demo for Valkyria Chronicles or whatever the fuck cuz you kept talking about it.

im waiting for my copy of THAT to arrive. play the demo, its great.
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Demi, chip is a shitty friend and you get him in the first cutscene. And tails shows up in level 2.

Two nighttime stages in a row forced me to put this back in the mailbox. shite binne.

Tails isnt considered a shitty friend, he's a classic. And I already brought up Chip in my first post. Don't let your bias cloud your eyesight. This game is awesome. Sonic is back.

I'm having trouble doing the Mazuri level in under 2:30
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I just sent the game back, the game is good. You guys are fegs.

So is this as good as the Sonic / Shadow levels in Sonic Adventure 2?

Yes. I would say so.
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Man, playing this game is such a weird experience. For everything they got right, they seem to have done something wrong to counteract it. Granted, this still is probably the best 3D Sonic game released (not that this means much).

+Sonic levels are ace very well-designed. Loads of branching paths make replays much more interesting.
+Graphics are AWESOME. I honestly was expecting the screenshots I saw online to be bullshots, I was pleasantly surprised. Everything is sharp, clean, and colourful. Everything seems to have a high polygon count. They did something right with the Hedgehog Engine, because it's one of the most nicest looking multiplatform titles this generation (imo). I didn't think Sonic Team had the talent anymore. Here's hoping they use it for the next PSO title.
+Music is fantastic. I want to get this game's OST. It's that good.
+Art direction is realized and inspired you could say. It's very stylized and fits perfectly with the Sonic universe. 

-Werehog levels. It's not so much the mechanics that I have a problem with. They would have been a decent distraction if the levels were half as long and enemies died faster. Playing those levels became a chore for me rather quickly. It's more of a Kung Fu Panda clone than a God of War one.
-While the sense of speed is exhilarating, Sonic sometimes runs too fast making it seem like you have no control over the hedgehog.
-It's a personal preference, I'd rather have the progression a bit more linear that having to enter and converse in hub stages. It works better with Sonic. It's not an RPG ffs!
-Control still feels a tad too twitchy (liked 2K6).
-I actually like Chip despite him being a shitty friend. :(

Overall, this is a C+ game for me from what I have played so far. It would have been better if it was all Sonic obviously.

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Sounds like a good bargain bin title.  Good jon Sega for not fucking this one up...too much.
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I don't regret spending $50 at all, but I'd definitely recommend picking it up if you find it for $30 or less.

It's fun.

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0017HPE7E

360 version - $20.95 with coupon code UNLEASH5

I just bought it :\