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[Borys]

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[Jansen]

20th place is 30 places too high for mirrors edge

[Bocsius]

I thought we only did salesbore once per month?

[duckman2000]

I thought we only did salesbore once per month?

Borys

[cool breeze]

football manager is at 3rd place and there is a wrestling game there

shit/bin thread, leper borys, ban uk sales charts

[cool breeze]

the uk population would rather manage a football game than play one

i'm sure pc gaming is huge over there with hits like excel and powerpoint

[dark1x]

20th place is 30 places too high for mirrors edge

Mirror's Edge rocks. 

I can't believe anyone is excited to see a carbon copy clone like World at War succeed, though.  It just encourages companies to keep delivering rehashes.

[cool breeze]

How could the brits do this to their own LBP :'(

Oh and now that Mirror's Edge is supposedly bombing (like DS) prepare for EA going back to their non-awesome-wowsome/milkage ways.

I just hope that this isn't the case in the US to (for ME).

EA can go out in a blaze of quality! (as long as we ignore the occasional NFS or Facebreaker)

[Tieno]

I guess the brits still hate the swedes. smh. Wonder what it would have sold if this was developed by a brit/non-swedish studio.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

COD5 won't have half the staying power that COD4 has had.

[maxy]

And people said COD:WaW was going to bomb

COD4

[maxy]

It will never change,masses do not care.

[y2kev]

Holy shit, Guitar Hero ranked in the UK and not in the US?

they dont have rb2

[dark1x]

How could the brits do this to their own LBP :'(

Oh and now that Mirror's Edge is supposedly bombing (like DS) prepare for EA going back to their non-awesome-wowsome/milkage ways.

I just hope that this isn't the case in the US to (for ME).

What's sad is that the buggy, broken, shitty new Need for Speed title will likely outsell Dead Space and Mirror's Edge combined.  It's sad to see, but the game buying public is basically encouraging companies to rehash games and release crap.  There simply aren't enough people out there that appreciate original games with actual substance (or at least high quality IPs that refine an existing genre).

I'd say it was the worst possible time for EA to release Mirror's Edge, though.  The game is NOT casual friendly at all.  It's very challenging and the first playthrough is likely to be the least enjoyable for most people as it relies heavily on skill and understanding.  I can certainly see why some people dislike the game.  To release such a title in the midst of games that do sell in huge numbers was just a mistake.  The economy sucks right now and while entertainment tends to perform well during such times, people only have so much money to throw at it.  Mirror's Edge is much to niche and is going to bomb as a result.

Hopefully EA is not discouraged by this and continues to allow original development to occur alongside yearly money makers.

And people said COD:WaW was going to bomb

Nobody claimed it would be anything other than a success.  It has always been obvious that it would sell in HUGE numbers.  It's not as if the average consumer is even aware that the game was developed by a different studio.  Honestly, it's basically a WWII duplicate of CoD4.  It was always going to be massive.  Many of us, however, did not wish to see it succeed at the expense of more original, higher quality titles.

Of course, there is a flipside there, in that I'd prefer to see something like CoD succeed over the shit Nintendo continues to crank out.  If it comes down to Call of Duty versus Wii Fit or Wii Music I'd much rather see CoD take off.  Despite its repetitive nature, at least the games can be somewhat enjoyable. 

[dark1x]

Is Mirror Edge on the PC too Dark? And how demanding is the engine?

Not yet.    Seriously, I was really bummed by the lack of a PC version as a perfect 60 fps would have been awesome for the game.  It is supposed to hit the PC sometime next year.  With its failure, however, I have to wonder if that will still occur.  Of course, the lack of PC license fees and the fact that it's probably near completion should allow it to see the light of day.

[AdmiralViscen]

So much for good games from EA. I'm glad Wii Music is fucked too though.

[The Sceneman]

who gives a fuck about british people? Same cocks put this piece of shit atop of the music charts :


http://jp.

 

what the fuck is wrong with British people?

holy fuck I forgot about Mr Blobby

bloody pommie poofs

[Smooth Groove]

What happened to Sony making lots of money in Europe?   

[Jansen]

Mirror's Edge rocks. 

I can't believe anyone is excited to see a carbon copy clone like World at War succeed, though.  It just encourages companies to keep delivering rehashes.

you've only played the prologue and chapter 1 haven't you?

it goes to shit after that. amazing concept, horrible execution.

i would much rather play a rehash that is decent than an original IP that fails so hard.

[Bildi]

No great surprise.  Europe has horrible taste in games.  Singstar would beat it.

[drohne]

just as ea becomes cool again their games stop selling

[pilonv1]

fuck you all for hating FOOTBALL MANAGER 09. It's brilliant.

[Great Rumbler]

 

[littlemathletics]

No great surprise.  Europe has horrible taste in games.  Singstar would beat it.

Singstar beats everything. It's even worse here though - have you seen our fucking charts lately? We look like a real bunch of tasteless pricks.

[pilonv1]

not really - last 3 #1's have been Fable 2, Fallout 3 and Gears 2. Of course before that it was Wii Fit for about 20 weeks

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Aren't the UK charts usually filled with shitty movie licensed games?

[pilonv1]

no just shitty sonic games :sonic

[littlemathletics]

That's a statement filled with delicious redundancy.

[ManaByte]

LBP is bombing, hard. Expect it to be $29 within a few weeks. I've seen stacks of them at every store and copies never move.

[drew]

the uk way of life is kept intact by liberal cocaine use

and cheeseburgers

[drew]

and OutRun 2

[Bildi]

No great surprise.  Europe has horrible taste in games.  Singstar would beat it.

Singstar beats everything. It's even worse here though - have you seen our fucking charts lately? We look like a real bunch of tasteless pricks.

I try not to look at our charts.

[drew]

i try not to look at any charts

[Grecco]

Fuck the UK. ME is the GOTY

Im laughing at how COD is going to rip it up. Everybody bitches about it but last week the line was fuck long for that game at gamestop

[Bildi]

That's a statement filled with delicious redundancy.

Indeed.

[Jansen]

ME is the GOTY

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[y2kev]

ME is the GOTY

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Bildi]

You guys have taste almost as bad as the Brits.  Mirror's Edge is awesome.

[y2kev]

Mirror's Edge is great when it's good and really bad when it's bad.


I just think the share skews wackily out of balance late in the game.

[Bildi]

Fair enough.

You love TR:U so it's impossible to hold a grudge against you anyway.

[MrAngryFace]

did they fix the cam in TR:U? I heard the demo one was wacky bad

[Bildi]

I'm not sure.  I heard that but if I found the camera was basically the same as Legend and Anniversary.  In other words, it was great.

[The Sceneman]

LBP is bombing, hard. Expect it to be $29 within a few weeks. I've seen stacks of them at every store and copies never move.

I was interested until all the distinguished mentally-challenged level moderation, Sony deserve to be fucked up the ass. You can make 100 mistakes and get away with it, but 2000?

[MrAngryFace]

I'm not sure.  I heard that but if I found the camera was basically the same as Legend and Anniversary.  In other words, it was great.

Hope so, cause I heard the demo cam was shitty shit shit

[Bildi]

Yeah, I honestly don't get it.  You can stick it where you want and it does the trick, I never had to make blind jumps or anything.

The only fault I could find was that your view can be obscured by foliage but that was when standing around or hanging on a ledge and it was just a matter of moving it a bit.

[dark1x]

Mirror's Edge rocks. 

I can't believe anyone is excited to see a carbon copy clone like World at War succeed, though.  It just encourages companies to keep delivering rehashes.

you've only played the prologue and chapter 1 haven't you?

it goes to shit after that. amazing concept, horrible execution.

i would much rather play a rehash that is decent than an original IP that fails so hard.

No, I've finished the game three times, played through several of the speed runs, and have been working on time trials.  The game was a tad frustrating during my first playthrough, but becomes an absolute joy the more you play.  Each stage is akin to a zone in an old Sonic Megadrive title in that you just want to replay them and work on improving your skills.  There is so much depth to the controls and execution of everything and it feels incredible when you pull it off.  This isn't a game I feel can be fully appreciated by simply playing through it once and calling it quits.  Your first playthrough is likely to be the low point of the game.

Due to that type of design, however, the game is most certainly NOT for everyone and I'm not surprised that it is failing at retail.  I'd imagine the general gaming public would end up disliking the game.  Everyone is so trained these days to believe that a single run through the "story" mode is all a game can offer, but that just isn't true.  This is a very old school game with new school mechanics and visuals.

[Jansen]

if you can't appreciate a game on your first playthrough then that game is doing something wrong.

[cool breeze]

Japan > UK

Way of the Samurai 3 is second best this week
Wii Music gone
LBP...gone  :'(
Resistance 2 on top 10  :'(

[dark1x]

if you can't appreciate a game on your first playthrough then that game is doing something wrong.

I disagree.

I'm not saying I didn't enjoy the game during my first playthrough (I most certainly did).  I am, however, suggesting that the game becomes significantly more enjoyable as you spend more time with it and learn it.  Is this how people viewed old Sonic games?  What about other skill based action games?  My first time with Metal Slug 3 sure as hell wasn't the most enjoyable.  A lot of shooters, platformers, and other old school games were often most frustrating early on while you were coming to grips with them.  Mirror's Edge is not your typical "complete the story and you're done" kind of game.  It's not something everyone can appreciate, but that doesn't mean there is something wrong with its design.  It's a fantastic mix of past and present gaming conventions.

Unfortunately, that makes it somewhat niche which is precisely why your dislike of the game comes as no surprise to me.

[Jansen]

BUT there is something wrong with mirrors edge design. for a game that relies on momentum and fluidity as its main draw it spends way to much time slowing you down and forcing you into combat (which was horrible because of the poorly implemented fighting mechanics).

dice simply fucked up the level design which is why the game is such wasted potential

btw the trial and error era of game design largely died off for a good reason (the exception being shmups).

[dark1x]

BUT there is something wrong with mirrors edge design. for a game that relies on momentum and fluidity as its main draw it spends way to much time slowing you down and forcing you into combat (which was horrible because of the poorly implemented fighting mechanics).

That's just not true.  It may seem that way to an unskilled player, but as you learn the game, you'd be amazed at how much you are capable of.  The game mechanics are full of depth that is rare in such games these days.  You may have to confront enemies more often during your first playthrough, but there's nothing wrong with that as you can still complete the game.  Mirror's Edge offers all of the flash we've seen in games like Prince of Persia (last gen versions) without the automation.  You actually have to pull off the fancy moves yourself as the game won't autopilot for you.

Again, many of us love the design of the game.  It's simply not mainstream.

Splinter Cell demonstrates poor trial and error as it becomes a chore to complete many sections of the game thanks to the demand that you do it THEIR way.  You will be unable to proceed until you figure this out.  Mirror's Edge isn't like that at all.  There are almost always a number of different routes and approaches available to the player depending upon their skill level.  As you replay Splinter Cell there is always an obvious, optimal route the developers intend the player to move in.  The best paths in Mirror's Edge must be discovered by the player through understanding the game mechanics.  As I've spent more time with the game I've realized how much faster certain areas can be done simply through my knowledge of the game systems.

It's not broken, you simply don't like it.

[AdmiralViscen]

Domination

[laesperanzapaz]

man i'm so glad i'm not much of a gamer anymore, else i'd be in depression right now

[Jansen]

i know how to play the game jackass. it's not like it was hard to figure out at all.

it simply has shitty level design. you like it because you have shitty taste. it's as simple as that.

[Bildi]

I find the level design fine allowing you to build up a good rhythm as you find a path.  It's not for everyone, and if you don't like it I don't see what the big deal is.