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The Shield: holy motherfuck godhole
« on: November 19, 2008, 02:24:21 AM »
The last episode's next week and it's going to be even more awesome.

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Re: The Shield: holy motherfuck godhole
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2008, 02:25:01 AM »
Torrenting tonight's ep now.

Is the finale only an hour long?
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Re: The Shield: holy motherfuck godhole
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2008, 02:30:03 AM »
I don't know, but I'm pretty sure that they could wrap it up in an hour.

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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2008, 03:56:03 AM »
Holy shit.  Only 10 minutes in and this is already awesome.
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2008, 04:42:44 AM »
HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIT
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2008, 04:48:55 AM »
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Hahaha the look on Claudette's face when she hears the words "full immunity"
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This episode might be the best of the season.

EDIT: HOLY SHIT AGAIN

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Claudette fired Dutch?!?!  Serial killer kid is so gonna gut him
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This episode keeps on delivering!
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2008, 05:12:00 AM »
I think that this is definitely the best episode so far, the finale could be even better though...

I predict:
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She won't actually fire Dutch.  That she was just mad but she'll get very depressed at her department's shitty reputation and resigns.  If it was any other character, I'd guess suicide.

Gardocki will run away or die, same for Shane.  No jailtime.

The only other loose end is the kid (Lloyd).  He's fucked up but smart so I can see him doing something really sick in the next episode.  Probably not something that Dutch can handle (murder of somebody close to him?) and Claudette will have to clean up the mess.
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But going by my last predictions, I probably won't get much right.  Every episode was unpredictable as hell.

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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2008, 05:22:02 AM »
My predictions

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Claudette tells Ronnie (or he finds out some other way) that Vic fucked him over by taking the deal.  This makes Ronnie either fuck up the bust, make a deal with the Mexicans, or kill Vic.

Dutch dies at the hands of Teenage Serial Killer.

The Barn will shut down at the end of the series.

Shane dies, but I'm not sure how.  While I am sure he and Vic will confront each other, Vic won't want to fuck up his deal by committing additional crimes.  Also, hopefully Mara dies.

Shaun Ryan said there are 4 deaths in the final episode:  Shane, Dutch, Vic, Mara.

Claudette's career is ruined and maybe the Barn will get shut down.

That's my guess.  The finale is 90 minutes, too.
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2008, 05:36:34 AM »
In that case

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I predict that the 4 deaths are:
Ronnie, Shane, Mara, and somebody else dies.  I'm guessing Lloyd but maybe the Cartel guy.

No way that Claudette tells Ronnie though.  She hates him.  She hates Vic more but she's got too much integrity to try and send Ronnie to kill Vic.
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2008, 05:41:53 AM »
In that case

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I predict that the 4 deaths are:
Ronnie, Shane, Mara, and somebody else dies.  I'm guessing Lloyd but maybe the Cartel guy.

No way that Claudette tells Ronnie though.  She hates him.  She hates Vic more but she's got too much integrity to try and send Ronnie to kill Vic.
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Don't forget, they got Ronnie dead to rights, on tape, handing the money to Corrine.  Claudette could have him arrested at any time and that would fuck up the bust, too.
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2008, 06:55:17 AM »
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I could see Ronnie framing Vic for the murder of the Armenian hitman in the beginning of the season.  The hitman was after Vic's family afterall.  That would get the immunity deal voided and then of course Vic would go to prison.  It's hard to tell what Claudette's thinking but if Claudette does tell Ronnie in the hope of him helping to convict Vic on something, then the Cartel bust would fall through.  Right now though, Claudette doesn't know about the bust.
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2008, 12:12:18 PM »
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Nah, I think Claudette will cut a deal with Ronnie to find anything that Vic might have excluded that would void his immunity agreement. Besides, that whole sting has been compromised so many times now that it will probably fall through on a technicality.

The upside to the character revelations this season is that  I'd be totally alright with everyone dying. I was honestly annoyed when Lem died.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2008, 12:16:06 PM »
This thread makes me want to skip math class to go home and watch the episode I recorded last night so bad!
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2008, 12:24:21 PM »
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I wonder if Vic mentioned the Tavon incident in the interview. That would otherwise be enough to void the agreement, eh? And for the record, I hope Corrine gets it bad too.
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Re: The Shield: holy motherfuck godhole
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2008, 12:49:03 PM »
Can't even predict it because every episode has changed things dramatically.
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2008, 03:25:45 PM »
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I doubt that how this resolves will have anything to do with what Vic may have left out of his confession.  This is simply because that would be a total cop out.  We saw like 3 brief snippets of his confession, since it would probably take a full episode or more to show the full confession.  If his downfall ends up being something he neglected to confess, something that happened off camera, that would be incredibly cheap.  To me, the scene basically said that Vic went completely clean.  We have no reason to believe the show would mislead us and make us think he left shit out.  If he admitted to Crowley and the Money Train, there's no reason he should have left anything else out, since those were his biggest transgressions
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Claudette actually arrests Corrine now.  Remember, Vic's deal was only to get her out of a non-existent aiding and abetting charge, and if Claudette arrests Corrine and therefore gets the ability to manipulate Mackey in the hunt for Shane, it is likely that Vic will have to commit other crimes in his search, possibly even killing Shane out of passion.  Remember, this has been Claudette's plot all season, and she needs something big to do in the last episode.  It's already been established that she is over the edge
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Re: The Shield: holy motherfuck godhole
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2008, 04:01:52 PM »
 :omg

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I think the LAPD is going to force her to resign.  All the shit that has been going on, in the typical Shield fashion, the higher ups basically want to find a patsy and that will be her.  I could also see them announcing that the Barn is getting shut down entirely.  I don't think she will arrest Corinne but I could see Claudette bitch at her.  Corinne fucked up on a lot of things and its because of those things that delayed the arrest to where Vic now has full immunity.

I also agree that a technicality won't be found regarding Vic.  That would be a cheap way to end things.  If Vic is going down, it is with a bullet, not from anything else.  I think most Shield fans want Vic either getting away clean or dead and I think Ryan knows this.  From what I gather from the interviews, he wants it to be like The Shield all throughout.  So I expect a lot of conclusions ended with death, a lot of blame game from the top, and a lot of innocent people getting fucked over for associating themselves with Vic.
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I've also seen nearly a half dozen "spoilers" of the final episode, a lot of them saying different things than the other.  I kind of wanted to read them, even if it meant knowing what would happen next Tuesday.
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2008, 04:08:35 PM »
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Cheap, but fitting of a character who has spent the entirety of the series exploiting loop holes and getting out of big jams by means of creating diversions.
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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2008, 04:10:06 PM »
I think any spoilers are fake.  According to AICN, nobody saw the last episode, and nobody saw the penultimate episode.  To confirm this, there were no jackasses shouting spoilers in the comments.  
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2008, 02:37:27 PM »
I can't believe the greatest thing to come along in the entirety of two (possibly three) presidential election cycles is coming to an end on tuesday.

My thoughts on the episode, HOLY SHIT

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OMG at Vic's facial expression during the first part of the confession. I've been watching the show since the very beginning (I watched the sunday night repeat of the pilot on the first week I believe), and I have never seem Vic like that, not ever. If Walton Goggins and Michael Chiklis don't win emmys, hollywood should burn to the fucking ground.

Predictions: Ronnie cuts a deal with the mexicans (without being told about Vic's deal by Claudette), deal goes south, Vic gets killed by the black board of directors.

Dutch kills Lloyd and maybe his mom, walks scott-free.

Claudette keels over.

Shane takes Mara back home and kills himself before being arrested.

I dunno what else to say. For those of you who have never experienced a Shield finale an the night it comes on instead of on DVD, you are in for MASSIVE build-up and tension all night until the credits roll.

This is the best show on TV in my lifetime.
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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2008, 05:59:17 PM »
I dunno what else to say. For those of you who have never experienced a Shield finale an the night it comes on instead of on DVD, you are in for MASSIVE build-up and tension all night until the credits roll.

Pretty much accurate.  I still can't get the confession scene out of my head, and I don't know if that'll stop, not until the finale on Tuesday.

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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2008, 06:46:15 PM »
I can't believe the greatest thing to come along in the entirety of two (possibly three) presidential election cycles is coming to an end on tuesday.

My thoughts on the episode, HOLY SHIT

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OMG at Vic's facial expression during the first part of the confession. I've been watching the show since the very beginning (I watched the sunday night repeat of the pilot on the first week I believe), and I have never seem Vic like that, not ever. If Walton Goggins and Michael Chiklis don't win emmys, hollywood should burn to the fucking ground.

Predictions: Ronnie cuts a deal with the mexicans (without being told about Vic's deal by Claudette), deal goes south, Vic gets killed by the black board of directors.

Dutch kills Lloyd and maybe his mom, walks scott-free.

Claudette keels over.

Shane takes Mara back home and kills himself before being arrested.

I dunno what else to say. For those of you who have never experienced a Shield finale an the night it comes on instead of on DVD, you are in for MASSIVE build-up and tension all night until the credits roll.

This is the best show on TV in my lifetime.
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There's no way Vic and Shane won't have a one-on-one scene.  It has to happen!
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« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2008, 10:27:35 PM »
Spoilers obviously:

This is by far the best episode of the season. I really can't say for sure which four characters are going to die in the finale, but here are my predictions:

-Shane (suicide maybe, he's a fan favourite but he's also hated by many)
-Mara (kinda was foreshadowed when Shane said a broken collar bone could pierce her heart, or possibly overdose from the drugs she's been taking)
-Dutch (by that kid he's investigating, they keep reminding us about him in each episode)
-Copout answer: Either Vic or Ronnie (the setup goes horribly wrong)

I know, predictable answers for such an unpredictable show. I also don't think anything's going to happen to Corrine, since her immunity was covered in "Part C" of Vic's deal, although I wouldn't mind seeing her take a bullet.


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« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2008, 01:09:16 PM »
Blah ending. Though fitting, I suppose.

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I still don't get the Ronnie angle; everything is based on Vic's testimony then?
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« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2008, 01:54:20 PM »
I felt like the ending tied up many loose ends or at least to the degree that is satisfactory.  Spoilers below:

Vic's ending was perfect.  He lost absolutely everything.  He always prided himself as the man that can get things done, even if it meant bending the rules a little, he'd get his guy.  Ultimately, he did it all for his family.  Whether it was working with drug dealers or the money train, he wanted what was best for his family.  The harder Vic tried, it seemed, the more he pushed them away.  Same goes for him getting clean.  He tries to get out but for every step forward, he gets pushed two steps back.  He lost his team, he lost all his friends (who clearly despised him once he confessed), he lost his freedom, and worst of all to him, he lost his family.  Now he's a desk jockey who is now bogged down in paperwork.  Vic is now going to have to start anew.  I think he will make it, spirit unbroken.  His gun is a symbol of his past, both the good (numerous drug dealings) and the bad (money train, torturing, arresting friends like Ben Gilroy).

Ronnie's end was decent.  I hated how GAF built him up as a new person.  He was always this way.  Ronnie was the guy that always went along with what Vic did.  Sometimes he was reluctant but ultimately, he always did what Vic asked him to.  He was never hard or corrupting but could handle himself if he got into trouble, except for his arrest.  Ronnie was Vic's bitch from the very beginning to the very end.  I can't see him lasting a day or two in prison.  Even if he were to get charges dropped or reduced based on he said/she said, he'd have to sit in county jail, which can't be too inviting to police officers, especially those who stopped millions of dollars of drug deals.

Shane's end was fitting.  Shane always tried to be like Vic and thought that he was as smart and cunning.  He never was, which led him to get into trouble.  I knew something crazy would happen from all the coke and meth he kept snorting.  I never expected suicide.  I figured he would fight to the bitter end, causing his death.  Shane was cowardly and taking down his wife and son was pretty low, even if it was understandable.  It was either face prison and get torn apart, or die together as a family.  He knew that he wouldn't last in prison either so I figured he would always end up getting killed.  Although personally, I would have liked a final confrontation between him and Vic, given their wide history.

Everything else wrapped up nicely.  It was essentially given to us that Dutch and Claudette would nail one last serial killer.  If he was able to get Sean Taylor and Kleavon Gardner, I think that he will get this kid easily.  Perfect ending to Claudette's career and her emotions towards Vic were reasonable.  I still recall how badly Vic fucked her over in the second and third seasons, preventing the arrest of Armadillo and throwing a wrench into her leadership of the Strike Team as often as possible.  You can only get fucked over so many times before wishing for them to crash and burn.  Steve Billings was definitely the comic relief from his first appearance to his last.  I've known guys like him who are lazy but try to cheat the system at every turn, even though he clearly does a bad job of it.

The show itself was fucking brilliant though.  I got hooked onto the first episode of the show, where Dutch saw a murder victim with big tits and complimented them to Claudette.  That was the moment when I was won over.  The show always remained almost devoid of filler, except for a couple of Season 3 episodes, which unsurprisingly, featured 15 episodes instead of the typical 13.  Even so, those filler episodes were amazing compared to even the best of what is considered TV and crime dramas currently being offered.

There was a personal aspect to this show.  It was a favorite of an Omaha talk show where they frequently had phone interviews with the cast of The Shield.  The best one was after the episode where Aceveda was orally raped at gunpoint, they had Benito Martinez on that show the very next day!  Granted, filming ended months prior but still, the fact that they were able to bring on those guests and talk about The Shield behind the scenes was brilliant.  My friends and I all loved and watched the show.  I don't know of a single person who watched the show and never watched it again.  They all loved it.  They even made a good job of making Coldplay sound tolerable for once (Season 1 conclusion).  The show started in my last years of high school and concluded a month before I graduated from college.

To be honest, this is probably the best TV show I'll ever watch.  In fact, for years, it has been the only TV show I ever cared about watching and looking at what is playing now, that still holds true.  Hell, I'd be just fine with not even watching another TV show again once I get all seasons of the show.

It truly is an end of an era.
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« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2008, 02:02:41 PM »
I do think Vic's ending was fitting, and actually quite brilliant. But it required mulling it over a few times, which I guess is just another sign of excellence. Losing all of his power and the only thing that has remained a constant propellant must count as a death of some form.

I think I'd have been alright with any kind of ending given the kind of people the characters have become over the past few seasons, and Shane offing himself and taking the family with him seemed obvious about half-way in. Lem took all that was good about the strike team with him, so it's hardly a loss.

I wonder how Kavanaugh feels about all of this?

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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2008, 03:03:02 PM »
I'm not sure.

I do know that Shawn Ryan wanted to get in Antwon Mitchell this season but couldn't find a spot for him.  It would have been nice to hear what he thought of it too.  I'm sure he'll make quick work of Ronnie.

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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2008, 07:01:16 PM »
It was an amazing episode.  The only thing I wish they might have wrapped up is the Lloyd situation.