RE5 demo is up on JAP xbox live gold. PSN and Silver later/unknown

[Greatness Gone]

The controls are absolute trash and the partner whore is super mentally impaired. So totally renting this shit.

[CurseoftheGods]

Do I burn the content folder or the CD image?

[Don Flamenco]

Do I burn the content folder or the CD image?

content folder. 


finally got my work done for the day, gonna see if this is absolutely awful or if it's just RE4, but spoiled because people like Gears better.

Back in the PS2 era RE4 was the best playing third person shooter around.

I thought Max Payne 1 and 2 were better at shooting.  RE4 was all about awesome pacing.

[CurseoftheGods]

Thanks, Kranz!

[Madrun Badrun]

wait you can do this shit on a cd?  Fuck ya. 

[CurseoftheGods]

RE5 has be hyped to play RE4. Is the wii version good?

It's great, but I preferred using a GCN controller (which you can also use to play Wii Edition).

[y2kev]

doesn't the wii version look worse?

[drohne]

oh god the passive agressive ninthings with their nonopinions in the gaf thread are giving me an aneurysm

and i don't even like re5 much

[demi]

wii version looks like shit, plays like it too

[Don Flamenco]

doesn't the wii version look worse?

nah, it's the same, but with true widescreen.  More people have LCD and plasma TVs these days and RE4 looks 10x better on a CRT.

[y2kev]

"capcom shouldn't have put it on a non-re brand console"

--shaheed

edit: its not true widescreen i thought

[drohne]

wii version renders at the same pathetic resolution as the gc version and upscales. AT LEAST USE THE TURBO YOU FUCKS

re4 is seriously unplayable at this point unless you've got an old 4:3 crt

[demi]

its not

[y2kev]

wii + upscale = mind asplode

i'm imagining a quiz whiz compressing video

[CurseoftheGods]

The PS2 version is in 24-bit colour (compared to 16-bit for Wii/GCN) but has worst lighting.

[cool breeze]

Wii version is the best and a big part of that is the Wii remote controls.  One of the only times ever the Wii does something right.

[Madrun Badrun]

a min 20 secs 

[Jansen]

re5 is fucking awesome.

control type d is the way to go.

you can even drop into other peoples games. i thought it would be an invite only deal for the online co-op. that should help those that don't have any friends and those that are too dumb to play the game alone and manage sheva.

[Don Flamenco]

okay, so it's not true widescreen and upscales the game? wow.  I thought it was just my LCD making it look like shit. 

anyway, just played through the demo with Type A controls and it played no different than RE4 to me.  I didn't know there were people who haven't played RE4 before, but I guess those who are complaining about the way the game controls haven't. 

Other than that, it's just like RE4, but with tighter spaces and more enemies.  I like how you can't pause into the inventory and are constantly mobbed by guys--survival horror is back noobs.  no more pausing to reload your shit and use health items. so far, so good. hopefully they nailed the level design for the rest of the game.


edit: and i'm pissed I won't be on XBL for a few weeks, i'd love to play some co-op. :\

[Madrun Badrun]

zomg

[Madrun Badrun]

beat the second level.  Being able to have a last ditch save with your partner is kind of cheap.

[The Sceneman]

bah I dont have any blank CD's, would running it off a USB stick work?

[Madrun Badrun]

could always try.  You'd still need to make cd image of it though and then put that on the flashdrive. 

[tiesto]

Fuck, I wanted to d/l this (I don't have a DVD-R drive) w/my Japanese alt account. That sucks

Wanted to blast away some distinguished black zombies.

[Don Flamenco]

I'm kinda surprised running it off a DVD isn't loud as fuck like most 360 games.  I haven't heard it spin once when I've played the demo. 

It does this annoying thing in 1440x900 where a blue line flashes for a second when you spin the camera though...hope that isn't in the final product. 

[cool breeze]

I hope they listen to feedback about the demo and change some aspects of it.  I'm a bit torn here tho, I think it's important for developers to avoid listening to distinguished mentally-challenged fellow fans because in most cases they're wrong, but in this case the people have a point and don't even need to explain it anymore, they can just point at Dead Space and be like "do that".  Plus it doesn't seem like even the developers of the game properly understand the relationship between level design and controls, it's actually one reason why it feels a bit more funky than RE4 to me.

[y2kev]

There's like no level design. That's the problem. Both levels ultimately just put you in this big rectangle arena basically. Sucks.

[Polari]

bah I dont have any blank CD's, would running it off a USB stick work?

Take the day off work tomorrow, buy some blank CDs and we can play co-op.

[Don Flamenco]

There's like no level design. That's the problem. Both levels ultimately just put you in this big rectangle arena basically. Sucks.

true. I thought it was kinda dumb how the chainsaw guy fight devolved into running in a circle, turning around, and getting a few shots in, repeat.

[cool breeze]

There's like no level design. That's the problem. Both levels ultimately just put you in this big rectangle arena basically. Sucks.

That's what RE4 did a lot of times, either wide open areas with huge gaps where you can run to a corner and prepare for the enemies, or a linear area where your aiming skills could get you through.  The two levels in RE5 had big open areas that were tightly packed with obstacles that cause problems when trying to move around freely.

Despite having this complaint, I still think it will be incredibly amazing, I'm just saying that it could be even more incredibly amazing if they adjusted the controls to fit these areas.  The barely even have to think about it too much, it's literally just 'copy Dead Space' and it would be ideal.

[Jansen]

just use the re4 control scheme if you can't adjust to the new controls and stfu already cuz this is as good as it's gonna get until 2013 when re6 comes out

as for the level design you guys simply expect too damn much from a fucking demo. especially since it's the same one they've been showing off for months

if the final game is all a bunch of rectangular areas, when then i'll be right here with you complaining about it

[Polari]

There's like no level design. That's the problem. Both levels ultimately just put you in this big rectangle arena basically. Sucks.

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or what, but these two levels seem pretty close to the design of the Mercenaries stages in 4, which is appropriate for a demo.

If the entire game turns out to be rectangle-shaped arenas you might actually have a point.

[y2kev]

I'm only judging what they gave me. I don't know if this is a Mercenaries style thing or not. The first scenario is literally a "stay alive until time X" mission in a rectangle, which I don't believe RE4 had (it was usually kill X number to advance, like in the village), and the second mission is basically a path leading to the co-op boost area and then you're again literally in a rectangle against chainsaw man.

I'm just contrasting the design of this shanty town with the design of the village, which I think was carefully designed to point "inwards."

We'll seeeeeee, but I'm not too crazy about some of the environments because of Sheva. You can't play the same way. She'll get eaten.

I think the demo is great and I love RE4 but there's something about accepting the oddities of RE years after other games have shown they don't really need to exist. The whole enemies run -> enemies walk in front of you -> enemies can't attack you if you run sideways thing stands out to me.

[cool breeze]

Because of Sheva this is probably going to be the first game I play from start to finish in co-op.  I need to find someone with crazy gaming habits like mine willing to go through it.  The AI is dumb.

[Eel O'Brian]

i think this game will be a lot of fun in co-op, and hair-pulling frustration in sp

[y2kev]

They need to Elika-ize her. No deaths. There is going to be babysitting.

[Eel O'Brian]

in single player mode, going to your inventory should freeze the game instead of being "live"

[y2kev]

No, I don't know about that. That would make SP considerably easier than in coop.

[Eel O'Brian]

perhaps you're right, but how about an item quick-select on the d-pad, that would make the babysitting a bit easier to bear

[drohne]

apparently there is a quick select on the d pad, though i never tried it myself

[Eel O'Brian]

janked-up controls and live inventories make games artificially difficult to compensate for brain-dead ai, btw

[Eel O'Brian]

apparently there is a quick select on the d pad, though i never tried it myself

  i just assumed there wouldn't be

i'll have to spend more than ten minutes with this next time i play

[y2kev]

janked-up controls and live inventories make games artificially difficult to compensate for brain-dead ai, btw

I honestly don't have a problem with the D style controls. It felt exactly like I was playing Gears. They need to drop the run button. That shit is distinguished mentally-challenged. I have an ANALOG STICK. A should be used for melee and X should be action. This shit needs to be decoupled RIGHT NOW.

You have a ton of stuff lying all around and you end up picking up items instead of meleeing zombies.

AND WHY IS EVERY ZOMBIE THE SAME CUBAN LOOKING GUY. I swear every "spanish/arab" zombie looks like Dan the beast severn



he's there, i'm right

[Eel O'Brian]

by janked-up i meant the run button

it's archaic

edit:

a good alternative would be clicking the left stick to toggle run

[Eel O'Brian]

AND WHY IS EVERY ZOMBIE THE SAME CUBAN LOOKING GUY.

can't have africans in africa, dude, just ask n'gai

[cool breeze]

They need to Elika-ize her. No deaths. There is going to be babysitting.

the best way would be to have her worst state simply be knocked down waiting for you to save her, so no death and simply just a lack of assistance or progression until you save her.

and yeah, run should be a full tilt of the analog stick, walk should only be a minor tilt.  also let you run sideways and backwards.  Quick Turn on LB, Melee on X, A for action/reload tasks.

[trippingmartian]

Got the demo via newsgroups today. I don't really have many complaints. The controls took some adjusting. I'd prefer for weapons select to pause the game, as well, but minor quibbles aside, the demo is pretty damned fun.

[bork]

I don't really care about how it looks, I'm worried bout the controls. I heard it was really  wacky and hard to play.

If "wacky and hard to play" is some secret code for "the best control the game has ever had," then yes.  The Wii version is the best version of RE4, period.  You get GC-quality graphics as opposed to the downgraded PS2 visuals (and its uuuuuuugly FMV scenes added to replace what were real time QTE scenes on GC), but the extra modes from the PS2 version and then your choice of controls.  You can always play the game with a classic controller or GC controller if you don't want to use the Wiimote/Nunchuck combo.   

[demi]

AND WHY IS EVERY ZOMBIE THE SAME CUBAN LOOKING GUY.

can't have africans in africa, dude, just ask n'gai

Wait, so you don't get to shoot blacks in this game?

They look black to me

[Don Flamenco]

The first scenario is literally a "stay alive until time X" mission in a rectangle, which I don't believe RE4 had (it was usually kill X number to advance, like in the village), and the second mission is basically a path leading to the co-op boost area and then you're again literally in a rectangle against chainsaw man.

I'm just contrasting the design of this shanty town with the design of the village, which I think was carefully designed to point "inwards."

 RE4's village demo was just a rectangle that you ran around in until you killed enough ganados.  it was just more interesting since you could create all kinds of choke points, run around on roofs, blockade buildings, etc. 

if the full game has similar design, it will suck.  but this is an RE game--they show you part of the first stage for like 2 years before release and that's about it. 

[FatalT]

All you cunts saying the demo levels are shite need to play this in co-op. SO fun!

[CurseoftheGods]

the graphics are

[The Fake Shemp]

this demo is like licking an old mans nutsack.

with out the actual fun of licking an old mans nutsack.

Is this good or bad, I can't decipher this

[CurseoftheGods]

Game rocks. Do want.

[y2kev]

The first scenario is literally a "stay alive until time X" mission in a rectangle, which I don't believe RE4 had (it was usually kill X number to advance, like in the village), and the second mission is basically a path leading to the co-op boost area and then you're again literally in a rectangle against chainsaw man.

I'm just contrasting the design of this shanty town with the design of the village, which I think was carefully designed to point "inwards."

 RE4's village demo was just a rectangle that you ran around in until you killed enough ganados.  it was just more interesting since you could create all kinds of choke points, run around on roofs, blockade buildings, etc. 

if the full game has similar design, it will suck.  but this is an RE game--they show you part of the first stage for like 2 years before release and that's about it. 

I'm saying that RE4's village is more designed like an arrow. The sides run inwards and the buildings are angled towards the church. It creates its own natural choke point at the church.

[ch1nchilla]

Game rocks. Do want.

Just downloaded, and I agree. I don't think it warrants as much hate as it's been getting here at all... Looks gorgeous, plays just like RE4 (which I loved), and although the controls can get annoying sometimes, I loved this demo and online co-op (with the full game) will be fucking awesome.

[The Sceneman]

All you cunts saying the demo levels are shite need to play this in co-op. SO fun!

yeah pretty much. Full game is going to own so fucking hard its not funny

[ch1nchilla]

Ugh... can't beat the second scenario for the life of me. Gotten owned by the chainsaw twice, and the bitch was almost to the gate when she died the third time! 

Anyway, demo's awesome, and now that I've played it a bit my only major complaint, which shouldn't even count as a complaint, is that the load times are astronomical off of the CD.

[FatalT]

Ugh... can't beat the second scenario for the life of me. Gotten owned by the chainsaw twice, and the bitch was almost to the gate when she died the third time! 

Anyway, demo's awesome, and now that I've played it a bit my only major complaint, which shouldn't even count as a complaint, is that the load times are astronomical off of the CD.

For me, the first time it loaded it took a while but every time after that it was really fast.

[ch1nchilla]

Ugh... can't beat the second scenario for the life of me. Gotten owned by the chainsaw twice, and the bitch was almost to the gate when she died the third time! 

Anyway, demo's awesome, and now that I've played it a bit my only major complaint, which shouldn't even count as a complaint, is that the load times are astronomical off of the CD.

For me, the first time it loaded it took a while but every time after that it was really fast.

I noticed that too, but that first time is still painfully slow...