LTTP: The Shawshank Redemption

[Raban]

What a marvelous film. It's a shame I hadn't seen it until just now. One of the most satisfying denouements I've ever been treated to in a film. I can see why IMDB's users have it ranked as the number one film of all time (doesn't make them any less insane, however). I can't say I've seen a single film quite like it. Truly an example of film as art (most movies these days have me forgetting that motion pictures were ever considered art).

And not to derail my own thread, but I also just recently saw Citizen Kane, which was, to my absolute surprise, an unbelievably superb film as well.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

One of the few movies where you can watch it a million times and not get bored of it.

[Raban]

I meant to ask, how are Darabont's other films? I'm a fan of Jim Carrey, so I'll probably end up watching The Majestic, but how's The Green Mile? The Mist?

[The Fake Shemp]

The Majestic sucks.  The Green Mile is a good film.  The Mist is one of the best Grade-B films made in the past decade.

[brawndolicious]

Those are all really different movies but people are usually pretty polarized on them from what I've seen.  I'd recommend watching The Green Mile first to see how you like that.

The Majestic is not the best "dramatic" Jim Carey movie imo but I think I remember liking it at the time (it was like 5 years ago when it came out?).  I think the Truman Show was more well made though.

[MrAngryFace]

just came out on bluray too woot

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

I meant to ask, how are Darabont's other films? I'm a fan of Jim Carrey, so I'll probably end up watching The Majestic, but how's The Green Mile? The Mist?

The Majestic is not good, The Green Mile is Oscar bait-ish but decent, The Mist kicks arse and hates people in general.

[Raban]

just came out on bluray too woot

I need a BluRay player :'(

I meant to ask, how are Darabont's other films? I'm a fan of Jim Carrey, so I'll probably end up watching The Majestic, but how's The Green Mile? The Mist?

The Majestic is not good, The Green Mile is Oscar bait-ish but decent, The Mist kicks arse and hates people in general.

What's the problem with The Majestic?

[ToxicAdam]

I liked it until the plot devolves into prisoner with a golden heart vs EVIL WARDEN~. Same plot device I have seen 1000 times before. It's a good movie, but a bit overrated.

[MrAngryFace]

Cool Hand Luke is also on Bluray, get both and you rock.

[Raban]

Cool Hand Luke is also on Bluray, get both and you rock.

Never seen Cool Hand Luke.

[MrAngryFace]

Its awesome, rent it on DVD

[Fresh Prince]

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=18026.135

[xnikki118x]

I really, really like Shawshank Redemption.

[The Fake Shemp]

That's because you crawled through a river of shit and came out clean on the other side!

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I still haven't seen this. But you all have terrible taste anyways.

The Majestic owned.

[ToxicAdam]

Cool Hand Luke oozes personality. Shawshank oozes schmaltz.

Rent Cool Hand Luke.

[The Fake Shemp]

Dude, you seriously have the worst tastes of anyone on the Internet.  Star Wars prequel fans included.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

No I don't. Just because I don't like buggy POS video games doesn't mean I have bad taste.

I would like to see your examples of my bad taste.

[MrAngryFace]

Like most movies with a twist, Shawshank isn't meant to be watched more than once a year.

[The Fake Shemp]

I would like to see your examples of my bad taste.

You have 3,261 posts!  That's a lot of hyperlinking.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I would like to see your examples of my bad taste.

You have 3,261 posts!  That's a lot of hyperlinking.

You are not a catholic.

[The Fake Shemp]

I don't even know what that means.  Probably some kind of bad joke.  Yet another example of your awful tastes.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

A catholic would actually do some work. Not your blend.

[The Fake Shemp]

Keep digging that hole!

[MrAngryFace]

way to derail!

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I was born in a hole.

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You just don't have any solid evidence of me having bad taste, just not comparable taste.

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[The Fake Shemp]

way to derail!

Perhaps this was a roundabout way to discuss true double-triple meaning of The Shawshank Redemption.

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I've got nothing.

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[Raban]

way to derail!

This thread stayed on topic much longer than I expected, I'm going to be honest.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Like most movies with a twist, Shawshank isn't meant to be watched more than once a year.

...Shawshank has a twist?

I've only seen it once; I didn't really like it.

[cool breeze]

Like most movies with a twist, Shawshank isn't meant to be watched more than once a year.

I disagree, I think it's enjoyable if only seeing the cool way he evolves the prison and the inter workings there.

I'm gonna watch it again when I get my blu-ray in the mail, hopefully tomorrow.

[MrAngryFace]

I think you need to be open to the type of content the movie is pushing. I mean looking at that poster alone you can tell whether or not you will be receptive too the message its pushing.

[Phoenix Dark]

Great movie. Kinda made me want to go to prison

[Oblivion]

Saw this movie a year ago. Like Oz, it's pretty damn depressing (yes, I know it's obvious). I can understand why people like it, but not really one of my favs. Though I have to say it has some great dialogue and I likes the happy ending.

[Raban]

Saw this movie a year ago. Like Oz, it's pretty damn depressing (yes, I know it's obvious). I can understand why people like it, but not really one of my favs. Though I have to say it has some great dialogue and I likes the happy ending.

The only part that really saddened me was

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when Brooks gets out and ends up being so confused and dysfunctional in a world that has grown without him and can only respond with suicide. It sucks to know that there are people who spend a lifetime in prison only to later come out into a world that they don't understand, nor can properly function in.

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[Oblivion]

Saw this movie a year ago. Like Oz, it's pretty damn depressing (yes, I know it's obvious). I can understand why people like it, but not really one of my favs. Though I have to say it has some great dialogue and I likes the happy ending.

The only part that really saddened me was

spoiler (click to show/hide)

when Brooks gets out and ends up being so confused and dysfunctional in a world that has grown without him and can only respond with suicide. It sucks to know that there are people who spend a lifetime in prison only to later come out into a world that they don't understand, nor can properly function in.

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Yeah, that was pretty sad as well. Course, also there was the whole

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ass beating by the sisters, and staying in prison for 19 years before escaping. But yeah.

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[Raban]

Saw this movie a year ago. Like Oz, it's pretty damn depressing (yes, I know it's obvious). I can understand why people like it, but not really one of my favs. Though I have to say it has some great dialogue and I likes the happy ending.

The only part that really saddened me was

spoiler (click to show/hide)

when Brooks gets out and ends up being so confused and dysfunctional in a world that has grown without him and can only respond with suicide. It sucks to know that there are people who spend a lifetime in prison only to later come out into a world that they don't understand, nor can properly function in.

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Yeah, that was pretty sad as well. Course, also there was the whole

spoiler (click to show/hide)

ass beating by the sisters, and staying in prison for 19 years before escaping. But yeah.

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I didn't think either of those scenes had anything on American History X's prison scenes, however unintentionally lulz-worth they are.

[Oblivion]

Saw this movie a year ago. Like Oz, it's pretty damn depressing (yes, I know it's obvious). I can understand why people like it, but not really one of my favs. Though I have to say it has some great dialogue and I likes the happy ending.

The only part that really saddened me was

spoiler (click to show/hide)

when Brooks gets out and ends up being so confused and dysfunctional in a world that has grown without him and can only respond with suicide. It sucks to know that there are people who spend a lifetime in prison only to later come out into a world that they don't understand, nor can properly function in.

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Yeah, that was pretty sad as well. Course, also there was the whole

spoiler (click to show/hide)

ass beating by the sisters, and staying in prison for 19 years before escaping. But yeah.

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I didn't think either of those scenes had anything on American History X's prison scenes, however unintentionally lulz-worth they are.

Seriously?

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In Shawshank, it's implied that Andy is beaten AND raped multiple times. As far as we know, Edward Norton's character (name?) only got raped once.Got off pretty damn lucky imo.

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[MrAngryFace]

[Oblivion]

The OZfice > Oz

[Cormacaroni]

I liked it until the plot devolves into prisoner with a golden heart vs EVIL WARDEN~. Same plot device I have seen 1000 times before. It's a good movie, but a bit overrated.

Can you list off a few of these 1000 other movies that use this plot device? I might want to rent a few of them.

Cool Hand Luke, just 'cause it was mentioned multiple times already. And is awesome.

[Phoenix Dark]

I liked it until the plot devolves into prisoner with a golden heart vs EVIL WARDEN~. Same plot device I have seen 1000 times before. It's a good movie, but a bit overrated.

Can you list off a few of these 1000 other movies that use this plot device? I might want to rent a few of them.

Cool Hand Luke, just 'cause it was mentioned multiple times already. And is awesome.

And Escape From Alcatraz. In fact both movies have fundie wardens

[Howard Alan Treesong]

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

anyways, WHAT IS THE TWIST?

[Phoenix Dark]

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

anyways, WHAT IS THE TWIST?

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Morgan Freeman is in a bar narrating the film to his characters in Million Dollar Baby and War of the Worlds

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[Tieno]

Great movie, it's one of those movies when you come across it flipping channels you'll stay with no matter what scene it is.

[ToxicAdam]

I liked it until the plot devolves into prisoner with a golden heart vs EVIL WARDEN~. Same plot device I have seen 1000 times before. It's a good movie, but a bit overrated.

Can you list off a few of these 1000 other movies that use this plot device? I might want to rent a few of them.

The Longest Yard
http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie/the-longest-yard.1/?pkw=PI&vendor=Paid%20Inclusion&OCID=iSEMPI

The Birdman of Alcatraz
One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest
Escape from Alcatraz
Midnight Express
Stir Crazy


It's kind of interesting that early prison movies (The Big House and Thunderbolt) present the fellow prisoners as evil, then in the 70's there is a rash of prison movies that represent the Warden as the source of evil. Could just be following the formula set forth by Cool Hand Luke ... or it could be a response to the Nixon administration.

[Mandark]

The evil warden's a cliche because it's so natural: cast the most powerful person as the villain to set up the biggest struggle for the protagonist.

You don't really see it crop up until the 60's/70's, when there was a much more anti-establishment slant in films generally and they didn't have to worry about the Code.  But even before then there were many evil movie jailers.  They were just written as Nazis or Japanese.

TA managed to put together a good list without even dipping into Roger Corman.

[Raban]

Saw this movie a year ago. Like Oz, it's pretty damn depressing (yes, I know it's obvious). I can understand why people like it, but not really one of my favs. Though I have to say it has some great dialogue and I likes the happy ending.

The only part that really saddened me was

spoiler (click to show/hide)

when Brooks gets out and ends up being so confused and dysfunctional in a world that has grown without him and can only respond with suicide. It sucks to know that there are people who spend a lifetime in prison only to later come out into a world that they don't understand, nor can properly function in.

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Yeah, that was pretty sad as well. Course, also there was the whole

spoiler (click to show/hide)

ass beating by the sisters, and staying in prison for 19 years before escaping. But yeah.

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I didn't think either of those scenes had anything on American History X's prison scenes, however unintentionally lulz-worth they are.

Seriously?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

In Shawshank, it's implied that Andy is beaten AND raped multiple times. As far as we know, Edward Norton's character (name?) only got raped once.Got off pretty damn lucky imo.

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Morgan Freeman's character explicitly explains that the sisters never rape him, they just beat the fuck out of him.

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[Olivia Wilde Homo]

That was

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during the Rita Hayworth scene, not the movie in general.  I don't think the movie ever mentioned if Andy got raped or not.

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[Oblivion]

Saw this movie a year ago. Like Oz, it's pretty damn depressing (yes, I know it's obvious). I can understand why people like it, but not really one of my favs. Though I have to say it has some great dialogue and I likes the happy ending.

The only part that really saddened me was

spoiler (click to show/hide)

when Brooks gets out and ends up being so confused and dysfunctional in a world that has grown without him and can only respond with suicide. It sucks to know that there are people who spend a lifetime in prison only to later come out into a world that they don't understand, nor can properly function in.

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Yeah, that was pretty sad as well. Course, also there was the whole

spoiler (click to show/hide)

ass beating by the sisters, and staying in prison for 19 years before escaping. But yeah.

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I didn't think either of those scenes had anything on American History X's prison scenes, however unintentionally lulz-worth they are.

Seriously?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

In Shawshank, it's implied that Andy is beaten AND raped multiple times. As far as we know, Edward Norton's character (name?) only got raped once.Got off pretty damn lucky imo.

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Morgan Freeman's character explicitly explains that the sisters never rape him, they just beat the fuck out of him.

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But didn't Morgan Freeman say that Andy never came around to telling any of his friends who wound up 'doing it'?

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[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

I love this movie, and hate those who say it sucks because it's a "Count of Monte Cresto" rip-off or those stupid conspiracy theorists who went to say that it's "the Israeli/Palestinian conflict retold from a person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation point of view". It was so farfetched and incredibly distinguished mentally-challenged that it killed a couple of thousand brain-cells.

there's a reason most conspiracy theories in fact are barely veiled racism, and most conspiracy theorists are made of pure stupid.

That was

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during the Rita Hayworth scene, not the movie in general.  I don't think the movie ever mentioned if Andy got raped or not.

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during Freeman's narration, I thought it was made quite clear that Andy...

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was very often raped.

Every so often, Andy would show up with fresh bruises. The Sisters kept at him - sometimes he was able to fight 'em off, sometimes not.

So what happens when he can't fight them off?  That sounds pretty clear to me.

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