What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?

[y2kev]

They're all better than Resistance 2. CoD5 isn't bad. The difficulty is so much lower than CoD4...it makes it so much less frustrating and tedious to repeat the same scripted elements.

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[demi]

COD5 is not better than Resistance 2. They are about the same.

CoD5 isn't bad. The difficulty is so much lower than CoD4...it makes it so much less frustrating and tedious to repeat the same scripted elements.

This is just wrong - but I have hair on my nuts and play Veteran - and tweezed said hair off from frustration

[y2kev]

I haven't tried CoD5 on Vet yet, I'm only comparing hardened vs. hardened.

CoD5 is way better than resistance 2. I've yet to see instadeath enemies in CoD5. There are like 2 of those in r2.

[Tabasco]

8 player coop!!  64 player multi!!  Clan battles!!

[fistfulofmetal]

They're all better than Resistance 2.

quite the accomplishment

[Jansen]

i got resistance 2 in the mail from gamefly last tuesday and sent it back the very next day unfinished. this says a lot about the game because i love first person shooters and even finished haze.

and i could see hating WaW if you only play SP. but the MP is fun and so is nazi zombies.

[Don Flamenco]

Beating resistance 2 in quality is easier than beating a suspect in shackles.

[ManaByte]

8 player coop!!  64 player multi!!  Clan battles!!

Do 64 people even play Resistance 2?

 

[Eel O'Brian]

   i like resistance 2 so far 

[WrikaWrek]

Finished COD5, meh to the meh.

Played a bit of Resistance 2, even worse than the 1st.

[duckman2000]

I don't think Gears 2 was all that much better, based on what I played of each game (a few hours of each), but I'm willing to believe that Gears 2 evolved a lot more during the rest of the game than Resistance 2 ever did. Barely-Insomniac-style wannabe Halo tripe.  :'(

Far Cry 2 is a very very very shitty shooter, yet quite the charmer.

[Bebpo]

R2 campaign is slightly worse than CoD4 campaign, which is supposedly better than CoD5 campaign.  So R2 > CoD5 supposedly.

[Bebpo]

At the end of the day, none of them are good though.

[WrikaWrek]

COD4 rocks.

[Bebpo]

COD4 rocks.

In MP.

[WrikaWrek]

And SP.

[duckman2000]

At the end of the day, none of them are good though.

I thought you liked Resistance 2?

[y2kev]

COD4 rocks in sp LOL

[CHOW CHOW]

It's crazy how much hype Resistance 2 got... 10,000 post threads at GAF with sfags circle-jerking each other off 24/7 for months on end.  I'm shocked to find out the game turned out to be nothing more than an average shooter, stunned!  Disgusting sfags..

[Bebpo]

At the end of the day, none of them are good though.

I thought you liked Resistance 2?

Not really.  It was decent.  Maybe 7/10.  But I only enjoyed a few sections and the rest were just doing the motions to see the

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COD4 rocks in sp LOL

It's alright.  Has some good parts and nice visuals.  Too many annoyances though with the waves of spawning and some of the levels were 

[pilonv1]

cod scripted single player fucking sucks. whether its 4 or 5

[dammitmattt]

It's crazy how much hype Resistance 2 got... 10,000 post threads at GAF with sfags circle-jerking each other off 24/7 for months on end.  I'm shocked to find out the game turned out to be nothing more than an average shooter, stunned!  Disgusting sfags..

You're on a roll today.  What can't you turn into fegs?

[maxy]

It's crazy how much hype Resistance 2 got... 10,000 post threads at GAF with sfags circle-jerking each other off 24/7 for months on end.  I'm shocked to find out the game turned out to be nothing more than an average shooter, stunned!  Disgusting sfags..

Its normal sfag behavior,hype every piece of exclusive shit,as long its exclusive and after that hype another.

[Bebpo]

I'm glad I don't read official threads for any games before I beat them.  All the xbots, sfags, and nkids hype their games up the point where anything will be a disappointment.

Instead I just play the games and be naturally disappointed in them.

[cool breeze]

I'd say so

[duckman2000]

I really liked the first Resistance, is 2 worse then 1?

Depends on why you liked the first one. I liked it because it felt like more of a classic PC style shooter, with Insomniac weaponry, not to mention an Insomniac approach to weapons availability. The second one is basically a Halo clone with some COD sprinkled on top, without the charm of Halo or the masterful event scripting of COD. To me, the second one was an incredible disappointment. I don't blame Insomniac for taking this path, but I can't think of many reasons for me to be excited for another Insomniac game after this.

[Bebpo]

I really liked the first Resistance, is 2 worse then 1?

YES

[y2kev]

Topic updated to reflect Turok, Baddlefield Bad Company, Dark Sector, and every other game except AITD being better than R2.

[archie4208]

What about Guitar Hero World Tour?  There is no way that game can be better than R2.

[Tabasco]

I just finished the SF level in R2.  It's not so hot.  That guy asking for tips on GAF on how to make his game look better needs lots of help.

But is it worse than Haze?

[Darunia]

Finished the campaign yesterday. I really didn't like it to say the least.

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Even the God sequence at the end was terrible.

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Sometimes I felt sorry for it, like when they tried to create atmosphere by letting songs play through the radio in the forest level. Game failed at most it tried to do.

[y2kev]

I just finished the SF level in R2.  It's not so hot.  That guy asking for tips on GAF on how to make his game look better needs lots of help.

But is it worse than Haze?

I can't believe this is what years and years of engine development would come up with. It's like building a house and then putting billions of dollars into solid gold knobs on cabinetry and shopping for furniture at ikea. The scale in the game is useless.

[Tabasco]

I can't remember if it was you or Wollan (who suprisingly ripped the game in that thread), but I agree about your scale argument.  They teased the fuck out of that SF/Golden Gate Bridge shot.  Then you get to what is a supposed payoff . . . and they send you back underground.

I'm shocked a "third generation" PS3 game looks this bad.  The world feels sterile and rigid.  No PPEs and shitty physics.

I do like that you can customize controls.  I bought those Real Triggers off Amazon to make the DS3 into a someone competent controller, and like to use L2/R2 for aiming/shooting.

[cool breeze]

Ratchet looked way better.  Even Resistance 1 looked better for having consistency throughout (I still think some of chimera ship parts of R2 did look nice, but most of it and the starting orange area just looked bad) 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Topic updated to reflect Turok, Baddlefield Bad Company, Dark Sector, and every other game except AITD being better than R2.

Hey now.  Don't lump Bad Company with those pieces of crap. BC was pretty darn entertaining and it probably has the best sound design out of any game that came out this year.  I usually don't give two shits about sound but I don't think I've ever played a game that nailed the sound of combat quite like BC did.

[y2kev]

I have to admit I'm playing at home on a shit 19" TV and I actually can't see the enemies so I'm getting so frustrated playing it. And those aren't crap! I like those games

edit: Tabasco, it was me. I've been ripping insom now for their last two games. They suck.

[demi]

What are you talking about? SDTV is just fine. Who needs to spend money on a 1000 dollar HDTV? S-Video is just as good.

[y2kev]

oh, for the record, even private hoffman ripped R2. R2 is a complete failure that no one likes. except the media.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Is Hoffman really Hans?  People seem so convinced that it's him but I'm not seeing it outside of his unwavering sony faggotry.  It just doesn't seem like they're the same dude.

[cool breeze]

who is Hans?

and yeah, Resistance 2 is the Wii of video games; it lost all appeal to fans but gained critical praise.  wait, the wii lost critical praise and fans to gain the same people who got wet for furby.

btw, while I didn't enjoy either demo for Turok or Battlefield BC (to a larger extent since I'm a huge fan of BF1942, 2, and event Vietnam...2142 ), I thought Dark Sector is actually a good game.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Someone else made SDF.com.  Can't remember who offhand but I know it wasn't Hans.

And Hans last legitimate GAF alt account was under the name Snah, so you might remember him from that name swaggaz.  If not, the guy lives here - http://opa-ages.com/forums/index.php

[y2kev]

SDF.com was Razoric, who is an xbot.

[demi]

GAF talk making me nervous

[cool breeze]

Medal of Honor Heroes 2 PSP > Resistance 2

[Tabasco]

I finished it up today, and I actually think it was okay.  What was frustrating early on was that they designed levels and enemies that would lend themselves to run and gun, but compensated for shit AI by giving them (the enemy AI at least) high accuracy and attack points.  So it was a slow, plodding slogfest on anything but easy.

So I casualed it up and had a good time.  For all the game lacks in visuals, I do appreciate their use of AF.

[y2kev]

the image quality took a hit overall vs. r1 though. they used some other type of AA. I don't think it was quincunx but maybe.

it definitely improves. louisiana is a good level.

[Tabasco]

I don't want to overstate things.  I gave it a 6 on the Gamefly ranking thing.  But it does get fun in the later levels.  Just like the first Resistance.  I have no idea why Insom threw us down narrow hallways the first few levels, only to finally open up the game later on.

This junk about having to play the PSP game to get the story is distinguished mentally-challenged.  The jumped ahead 2 years and never explained anything, and to get that info, you gotta play Retribution.  Or read wikipedia.

[dark1x]

It's crazy how much hype Resistance 2 got... 10,000 post threads at GAF with sfags circle-jerking each other off 24/7 for months on end.  I'm shocked to find out the game turned out to be nothing more than an average shooter, stunned!  Disgusting sfags..

It has nothing to do with fandom so much as logical expectation.  The original game was pretty decent.  Not one of the best FPS around or anything, but interesting enough to keep many people interested through the end.  I think many people assumed that it suffered a bit from being a launch title and were excited to see what Insomniac would come up with in a sequel.  To me, it seemed only logical that Resistance 2 would be a solid single player experience.  I really expected them to improve upon the shortcomings of the first game while introducing plenty of new and interesting scenarios to fight through.  In general, Insomnic have been able to improve upon each of their games with their sequels and I don't think anyone really suspected that to change with Resistance 2.

I don't think the game really received all that much hype either (certainly nowhere near as much as many other games released this past fall), but surely you can understand WHY some people might be excited.

I felt that the game was a huge disappointment myself.  It simply didn't come together and the overall single player experience was one of the least interesting I've played in the genre as of late.  So many terrible design decisions.

[dark1x]

Does R2 have invisible waves that you must push through?

If not then it cannot be worse then any COD by default.

No, not really.  It has huge waves at times, but they are finite.  I'd place R2 about on par with most of the CoD games, but I didn't really care for any of them.

[Ninja]

CoD4's Capmaign > Resistance 2 imo. Everything in Resistance 2 felt rushed and uninspired to me. The characters in Cod4 were pretty interesting by average FPS standards but the squad in R2 was completely devoid of characterisation except for that Capelli guy who I didn't like at all. They gave Hale a voice only to have him waste by not saying anything of value, all he does is bark generic orders. After keeping him silent in the original if felt incongruous to hear him talk now. 

One of the guys in your squad in R2 looks so much like Hale that a few times I looked at him and just though "wtf, who am I right now?" The answer of course is that I am a guy wasting time on a shitty fps.

The storyline is boring and hiding the interesting bits in those intel documents is pretty awful design. Not to mention how strange it feels to see how Insomniac threw away every unique aspect of resistance and replaced it with whatever is in right now. I think the key problem with this game is that Insomniac didn't have enough time to think it through and experiment and prototype different features. It could have been great but their overly aggressive release schedule is smothering their games. Making games for ps3 takes a longer time than making ps2 games and they need to revitalise their approach to reflect that.


COD4 was super-polished all the way through and it showed. It was a shorter campaign but it was tighter.

[AdmiralViscen]

COD4 obviously has its problems, and I really really hate them. But at least I felt compelled to beat that game. Resistance 2 is an absolute snore (and Sony deleted my save so).

And yea, the squadmates/characters in Resistance 2 make Halo 3's dialogue look amazing.

[dammitmattt]

So Resistance 2 is the last game on my Gamefly queue, right under the latest Scene It achievement romp.  Are you saying that it's so bad, that it's not even worth a few hours of my time and a portion of my monthly Gamefly subscription?

[AdmiralViscen]

The SP is just boring, I don't know why you'd spend your time on it. The multi is fun, I dig COD4+Halo3.

[dammitmattt]

The SP is just boring, I don't know why you'd spend your time on it. The multi is fun, I dig COD4+Halo3.

Is the versus worth your time or just co-op?

[AdmiralViscen]

I'm talking about versus, the co op sucks too. At least in the beta, people say it's somehow better in the final game but I really doubt it.

[duckman2000]

What I played of the game wasn't bad. Had it come from a new studio, I'd say it was a great first effort. Problem being that this isn't a game from a new studio, but the sequel to a game from a studio that has been around for some time. I thought Resistance was a good game suffering a bit from Insomniac carefully stepping into the genre, and that the sequel was going to be quite simply great. There's no excuse for it to not be great, really. What I played was a blend of COD and Halo, with only a little bit of Insomniac mixed in, and I expected a hell of a lot more from this company at this point. Average doesn't cut it.

I guess MP and co-op might be good by some standards, but it's not interesting enough for me to move away from COD4. And it didn't help that I was in the KZ2 MP beta, either. A round of Killzone 2 MP provided a better co-op experience than anything I found in R2.

[AdmiralViscen]

I don't know what it means to mix in 'a little bit of Insomniac.' Every single Insomniac game is generic, it's not like they're pushing the limits of gaming outside of the Resistance series. The most notable thing about the company is that they have a sense of humor, but their other games don't exactly drip with that either.

I love the Ratchet series but it's not like they're must-play for those who don't already dig them.

[duckman2000]

I don't know what it means to mix in 'a little bit of Insomniac.' Every single Insomniac game is generic, it's not like they're pushing the limits of gaming outside of the Resistance series. The most notable thing about the company is that they have a sense of humor, but their other games don't exactly drip with that either.

I love the Ratchet series but it's not like they're must-play for those who don't already dig them.

Weaponry, and monsters that are interesting to look at. I'd rather fight goofy but entertaining enemies from former Insomniac games than fighting the results of shitty efforts at making clowny characters look dead serious. The weapons were somewhat disappointing in R1 as they favored smarts over brutality, but at least there was a bunch of them. Removing the weapon wheel is just another butt-shot straight into drab standards.

[dammitmattt]

I don't know what it means to mix in 'a little bit of Insomniac.' Every single Insomniac game is generic, it's not like they're pushing the limits of gaming outside of the Resistance series. The most notable thing about the company is that they have a sense of humor, but their other games don't exactly drip with that either.

I love the Ratchet series but it's not like they're must-play for those who don't already dig them.

You see, I fucking love the Ratchet series and think that it is a must-play.  It's such a fun combination of a shooter and platformer with enough RPG elements thrown in to keep me going.  The weapons are fun, tt controls perfectly (assuming that you change to FPS controls), and it's at least charming (if not actually that funny).  Ratchet and Clank Future is still my favorite PS3 game because I just had so much damn fun playing through it a few times, much more so than I did with Uncharted.

It's just amazing that Resistance comes from the same studio.  They are absolutely nothing alike.

[duckman2000]

My reasoning when people were questioning the sense of being interested in Resistance was that it was at the very least guaranteed to be entertaining. Because that's what Insomniac does, entertaining games with explosive combat, great weapons that are fun to use, and awesome looking/moving monsters to use them against. Of course, Resistance was nothing like that, and Resistance 2 is even further detached from it. It's not a great bloody serious FPS, nor is it an entertaining monster killfest of the Ratchet/Deadlocked style.