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Strategy Gamers Help Please
« on: December 21, 2008, 03:09:36 PM »
My Dad, who hasn't played a PC game since our first 386, wants a fun strategy game to play on his laptop.  Is there anything really accessible for a novice?  I was thinking Civ2, figuring that would probably run on his laptop.  It's a couple years old, and I do not know the model number.  Is Civ4 scalable?

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Strategy Gamers Help Please
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2008, 03:53:58 PM »
Civ4 can be sort of rough on the CPU. Any idea what GPU/CPU he has in his laptop?

Civ2 would have terrible OS compatibility issues with modern machines in all likelyhood. I'd suggest GalCiv2 but the economic and production model of that game always throw newbies for a loop.

If he has something up to date Civ4 is a pretty clear choice, with King's Bounty being right behind.
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2008, 03:56:38 PM »
I know he has a Core 2 Duo and 2 GB of RAM, but no idea on GPU.  It runs Vista fine fwiw.  It came installed with Vista, so perhaps I misspoke on its age.  He got it right around Vista's release.
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2008, 04:04:33 PM »
Civ 4 should run fine on that.

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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2008, 04:09:24 PM »
It might be a GMA 950 GPU, which Civ4 will totally choke on.

Can you call him and get him to go Start->Run->Dxdiag  and click on the display tab? Videocard is right there at the top.
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Re: Strategy Gamers Help Please
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2008, 08:36:03 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2008, 08:46:01 PM »
I'd suggest Europa Universalis III. It can be a bit overwhelming at the outset because of the depth and how open-ended it is, but it's impossible to "lose" and you can always save and then come back and play as a different country if things don't work out. Plus, it'll run on just about anything and there are lots of guides out there.
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2008, 08:50:32 PM »
is that a "war game"?  he wants a "war game" and he isn't sure civ4 is what he wants.  he'll probably quit any game after 2 minutes b/c all he's so green, but i want to give him the best chance to enjoy something.  he can't handle rts, but thematically, what he wants is company of heroes or a civil war strategy game.

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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2008, 10:21:52 PM »
is that a "war game"?  he wants a "war game" and he isn't sure civ4 is what he wants.  he'll probably quit any game after 2 minutes b/c all he's so green, but i want to give him the best chance to enjoy something.  he can't handle rts, but thematically, what he wants is company of heroes or a civil war strategy game.

for Civil War the choices are easy in terms of wargames-Gary Grigsby's War Between the States, AGEOD's American Civil War, and the older Take Command: Second Manassas. All three are pretty advanced games and not made for novice gamers and would be unsuitable for new players unless they came from tabletop wargaming backgrounds. For WW2 there are a ton of games, ranging from the massive scope of Hearts of Iron and War in the Pacific to small-scale operational stuff like Kharkov: Disaster on the Donets, and again most of those are essentially not approachable from the novice gamer.

Honestly, perhaps the best thing would be something like the now-abandonware Axis and Allies: Iron Blitz - total beer and pretzels pivoted around a familiar conflict. However, giving the gift of grey-area downloads isn't much of a gift.  :lol That being said, one very good choice along those lines might be Gary Grigsby's World at War , which is a deep game but has a pretty decent interface and is pretty straightforward.

If he just wants something to pick up and play and blow something up, you could always get him DEFCON, which is a "war" game that is fun and plays pretty quick, and runs on about anything.
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Re: Strategy Gamers Help Please
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2008, 10:38:58 PM »
is that a "war game"?  he wants a "war game" and he isn't sure civ4 is what he wants.  he'll probably quit any game after 2 minutes b/c all he's so green, but i want to give him the best chance to enjoy something.  he can't handle rts, but thematically, what he wants is company of heroes or a civil war strategy game.

It's more of an empire simulator than a war game. It's in real-time, but you can slow down, speed up, and pause time as you please.
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2008, 11:06:48 PM »
Dont they have demos for these games you can try and see if they run well or if he enjoys it? Civ 4, CoH, etc
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2008, 11:10:03 PM »
thanks for the suggestions.  the thing is i'm not a strategy gamer so i can't really help much beyond controls.  i'm leaning civ4 b/c i think it will have the most hand-holding.  if civ rev was on pc i'd definitely get that.  he can't or won't learn to use a controller so console gaming is out.

guess i can try some demos and see how they play.

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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2008, 03:02:44 PM »
Bumping this thread because I wanted to

A) reaffirm that Civ4 is the best choice if you want to give a novice a nice turn based strategy game.
B)  let the OP know that Gary Grigsby's World at War: A World Divided from Matrix Games is probably the best midcore introductory wargame going right now.

So yeah,get him some Civ4. :)
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