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At least more for me, I'm digging into my video game back log, instead of purchasing every new 360 game of the month, forgoing dining out as much as much I used to, and buying less books--my biggest spending addiction.  I'm not poor by any means, most of the extra money I'm saving is being socked into saving just case my company is affected.  How about you?

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2009, 08:16:45 PM »
PS360 games MSRP in Canada have jumped up to $69.99. I am not sure I'll be doing as many impulse purchases now. :'(

I also subscribed to http://gameaccess.ca.

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2009, 08:16:52 PM »
Pretty much, but I'm not in high saving-gear quite yet.  I'm trying to focus on eliminating my remaining student loans first.  That's my only debt.
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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2009, 08:45:34 PM »
PS360 games MSRP in Canada have jumped up to $69.99. I am not sure I'll be doing as many impulse purchases now. :'(

I also subscribed to http://gameaccess.ca.

Weren't they always that price?

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2009, 08:47:57 PM »
PS360 games MSRP in Canada have jumped up to $69.99. I am not sure I'll be doing as many impulse purchases now. :'(

I also subscribed to http://gameaccess.ca.

Weren't they always that price?

No, they have been $59.99 for almost two years dude.

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2009, 08:48:51 PM »
Today I rebought the same pair of shoes that I've been wearing for about 7 years.  They've been on sale that whole time.

Seriously, I did cut back on all impulse purchases though other than food.  It makes you feel a little smarter going into a store and knowing exactly what you want to buy.

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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2009, 08:51:25 PM »
My buying habits haven't changed, but the interest rate drops mean my home loan will be gone sooner and I'll have more money to spend eventually. :rock

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2009, 08:57:07 PM »
PS360 games MSRP in Canada have jumped up to $69.99. I am not sure I'll be doing as many impulse purchases now. :'(

I also subscribed to http://gameaccess.ca.

Weren't they always that price?

No, they have been $59.99 for almost two years dude.

O, lol, I don't think I've bought a full price xbox game in two years

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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2009, 12:21:50 AM »
I'm cutting back on new game purchases, it's going to be paired down to one game, maybe two, a month at the most. I have so many titles I currently own that I've never played. It's absolutely ridiculous how many new games I've bought recently that I unwrap and then stick on the shelf.

No credit card debt, thank God. We do have a mortgage and student loan payments that we pay every month and we're buying a new car soon. Both of our cars are paid off right now, so a $200-$300 monthly payment for a couple years will be a new experience.
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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2009, 12:25:27 AM »
well I was poor before the recession and I'm poor now, so it hasn't really affected me at all.  I think I might have a little bit more money since gas prices have fallen so much.
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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2009, 12:25:51 AM »
I've put off buying a car for about a year now. My Yukon is about 7 years old and now has 80k miles on it. I'm getting kind of sick of it.



Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2009, 12:27:28 AM »
My 1992 Ford Escort probably has another month or two left in it, I've taken good care of it, but it's dying quickly. We could realistically become a one car household since my wife takes the bus to work, but I'd rather not drive our Jeep Cherokee Classic 60 miles every day. The thing gets terrible mileage.
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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2009, 12:28:43 AM »
Sort of saving, but only moderately so. Then again, one game a month isn't too terrible.

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2009, 12:29:10 AM »
I cut back expenses last fall.  I haven't changed those habits since.  My expenses, everything included, is now less than or around $1000/month.

As a result, I've squirreled away a good amount of money, which will go towards paying off student loans and re-consolidating them at a lower interest rate.  They're low already but I'm sure I can get those rates even lower.
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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2009, 12:40:28 AM »
My rent was increased by 5%. What the hell's that about? Energy prices are going down (utilities are included in the rent), people are losing their jobs, so let's increase the rent.

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2009, 01:16:39 AM »
Now I only have champagne in the afternoons :tophat
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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2009, 01:20:01 AM »
I don't care what the state of the economy is, I'm not altering my vodka consumption

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2009, 01:41:35 AM »
My rent was increased by 5%. What the hell's that about? Energy prices are going down (utilities are included in the rent), people are losing their jobs, so let's increase the rent.

Landlord struggling to cover the suddenly-higher mortgage payments would be my guess. Doesn't mean it's fair or that they'll be able to keep charging folks that much though. Have you shopped around recently?
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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2009, 01:54:25 AM »
I may be missing something, but being there's a recession in the US aren't interest rates low and hence mortgage repayments would also be low?

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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2009, 01:54:59 AM »
I'm cutting back on new game purchases, it's going to be paired down to one game, maybe two, a month at the most. I have so many titles I currently own that I've never played. It's absolutely ridiculous how many new games I've bought recently that I unwrap and then stick on the shelf.

No credit card debt, thank God. We do have a mortgage and student loan payments that we pay every month and we're buying a new car soon. Both of our cars are paid off right now, so a $200-$300 monthly payment for a couple years will be a new experience.
My wife and I have our cars paid off as well, but we keep debating getting something new for no better reason than it would make it more convenient to haul crap (groceries, dog, etc.) around.  Not the best reason to rid yourself of a '02 or '03.  For the past two years we've gotten close, but pulled back.  It's the thought of a payment; while we can afford it (in the sense that that means less money being saved, er, eating out :-[) it's a nag and a drag.  Pair that with depreciation and ugh.  Actually, double ugh to depreciation.  Even though dealers/manufacturers are eating some of it in subsidies and price cuts, all existing cars are also falling in value at a greater rate.  Depreciation is the worst aspect of car buying, especially if you purchased a model that's now heavily subsidized.  Double whammy.

Still, good time to purchase.  Push for 0%, even if they aren't offering.  Takes alot of the psychic sting out of the payment (sure, I'll take your money and let you eat the borrowing/lending cost).  If not going used, go for a 2008 model if you're not concerned with having the newest edition; may save you quite a bit.  Also, don't let the salesman bring out the four-box worksheet.  Negotiate on price, not payment (but bring a calculator and don't be afraid to calculate the affect of (simple) interest, period, down-payment, etc on your desired monthly payment; don't rely on the salesman or worse, the finance officer).  You're smart and know this already.  But shiny cars can overwhelm the senses.  And when I was in Seattle, there's a whole lot of nice, new cars sitting forlorn.

Bad pun, but you and you're wife are definitely in the driver's seat with an auto purchase in the present economy.  Though, if you can put up with the Cherokee's bad mileage you could increase your student-loan payments and pay less interest over time.  That's not very fun, though.  Suze Orman  :-\...still admire her, though.

I've put off buying a car for about a year now. My Yukon is about 7 years old and now has 80k miles on it. I'm getting kind of sick of it.
Whatever you do, don't go near the Hybrid Yukon or equivalents.  Yes please, can I have a marginal increase in gas mileage but an infinite increase in worry once it's off warranty?  I don't go for gas-guzzlers (hate'em) but if you do, just go for it.  None of this absurdity that GM and Toyota are up to sticking hybrid drivetrains into 2-ton + vehicles.  Fuck me if the Bay Area isn't full of people patting themselves on the back for driving tank-like hybrids.  Missing the point, bobos :duh.

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2009, 02:01:03 AM »
I tend to sell more in order to buy what I want/need. That's probably what I should have done from the start, though.

Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2009, 02:03:11 AM »
I may be missing something, but being there's a recession in the US aren't interest rates low and hence mortgage repayments would also be low?
Problem is two-fold:
1) Refis and initial financing are facing intense scrutiny.  For those approved (and the number of approvals has greatly diminished), it's taking upwards of a month to get your loan distribution, and
2) Sellers and buyers continue to be in somewhat of a stand-off.

Mainly number 1, though.  Seriously, it's no exaggeration to say that the spigot of credit has essentially shut in the US.  Great time to refi but nary a lender willing to budge.  As your loan docs go stale, the lender will come back and claim your house value has diminished to an unacceptable loan-to-value ratio for the application.  And you start all over again.  And again.  Currently happening to some friends here in CA.

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2009, 02:06:46 AM »
None I'm still poor from student loans.   :-\
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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2009, 02:15:52 AM »
I've put off buying a car for about a year now. My Yukon is about 7 years old and now has 80k miles on it. I'm getting kind of sick of it.
Whatever you do, don't go near the Hybrid Yukon or equivalents.  Yes please, can I have a marginal increase in gas mileage but an infinite increase in worry once it's off warranty?  I don't go for gas-guzzlers (hate'em) but if you do, just go for it.  None of this absurdity that GM and Toyota are up to sticking hybrid drivetrains into 2-ton + vehicles.  Fuck me if the Bay Area isn't full of people patting themselves on the back for driving tank-like hybrids.  Missing the point, bobos :duh.

I'm done with SUV's. Gas prices are eventually going to go back up and I was getting sick of spending 100+ dollars per fill up. I'm looking for a used AWD sedan next time.



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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2009, 02:28:24 AM »
Problem is two-fold:
1) Refis and initial financing are facing intense scrutiny.  For those approved (and the number of approvals has greatly diminished), it's taking upwards of a month to get your loan distribution, and
2) Sellers and buyers continue to be in somewhat of a stand-off.

Mainly number 1, though.  Seriously, it's no exaggeration to say that the spigot of credit has essentially shut in the US.  Great time to refi but nary a lender willing to budge.  As your loan docs go stale, the lender will come back and claim your house value has diminished to an unacceptable loan-to-value ratio for the application.  And you start all over again.  And again.  Currently happening to some friends here in CA.

I see, so refinances are the big problem for people whose home loan LVRs have become inadequate.

We are facing similar (but nowhere near as dire) circumstances in Australia, where some of the major banks ran out of money to lend, and it is difficult to get finance especially for business and investment purposes, but it's nothing like the US.   Since we aren't in a recession (not yet anyway), house prices are not really falling so we don't have a problem with home loans like the US does.

In Australia it's really a good time for most home loan people like me, because interest rates are being cut in an attempt to stimulate the economy.  They've fallen by an unprecedented 3% over the last four months or so, and there's more cuts around the corner.  For those that can keep their repayments constant, it could cut years off home loans.


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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2009, 03:49:40 AM »
Problem is two-fold:
1) Refis and initial financing are facing intense scrutiny.  For those approved (and the number of approvals has greatly diminished), it's taking upwards of a month to get your loan distribution, and
2) Sellers and buyers continue to be in somewhat of a stand-off.

Mainly number 1, though.  Seriously, it's no exaggeration to say that the spigot of credit has essentially shut in the US.  Great time to refi but nary a lender willing to budge.  As your loan docs go stale, the lender will come back and claim your house value has diminished to an unacceptable loan-to-value ratio for the application.  And you start all over again.  And again.  Currently happening to some friends here in CA.

I see, so refinances are the big problem for people whose home loan LVRs have become inadequate.

We are facing similar (but nowhere near as dire) circumstances in Australia, where some of the major banks ran out of money to lend, and it is difficult to get finance especially for business and investment purposes, but it's nothing like the US.   Since we aren't in a recession (not yet anyway), house prices are not really falling so we don't have a problem with home loans like the US does.

In Australia it's really a good time for most home loan people like me, because interest rates are being cut in an attempt to stimulate the economy.  They've fallen by an unprecedented 3% over the last four months or so, and there's more cuts around the corner.  For those that can keep their repayments constant, it could cut years off home loans.
The inability to refi is definitely a symptom of the overall problem (next up are credit-card issuers as widepread layoffs exacerbate their shaky financials).  Here's an ok article on the description and wider implications for the US due to our "credit crunch:"

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1874702,00.html

The last few years, all Americans benefited to a degree from easy credit (whether literally or indirectly through employment) so I won't cast stones.  But, how we will form an economy that can meet or surpass the phony gains of the decade or so (and it'll need to surpass them in order to achieve meaningful gains in employment with a still-growing population) without the credit availability we previously enjoyed is anyone's guess.  This retrenchment is going to be more broad and long lasting than I think any of us in the States are willing to contemplate.

This was published in late August of 2008 and is as emblematic as anything of the CA experience in the last moments of the credit heyday.  Ignore all the hand-wringing about outsiders.  You can skim it and get a sense of the many permutations that the American liaison with easy financing will have on local communities.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/business/24house.html?_r=1&sq=merced&st=cse&scp=4&pagewanted=all

And then you start to consider the problems in Ireland, Italy, Spain, Iceland, Britain, China, etc.  Well, hopefully Alan Wake is published this decade.  Still looking forward to that!

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2009, 08:36:02 AM »
It hasn't, but I've always been kind of miserly.

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2009, 08:56:20 AM »
I'm having to pay my own tolls now at work (job used to pay for it) so I'm going to start public trans.  Will give me time to read I guess, whatev.  :S
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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2009, 09:19:08 AM »
I honestly haven't changed my spending habits much at all.
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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2009, 09:21:13 AM »
Mostly I just feel more guilty  :-\

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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2009, 09:24:54 AM »
haven't really changed my spending habits, frankly though i need to do so.

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2009, 09:32:36 AM »
haven't really changed my spending habits, frankly though i need to do so.

Let's move in with GilloD.  :-*

I have been avoiding eating at fancy places, haven't bought games in a couple of months, and can't remember the last time I bought me some new clothes :-\.

I haven't really either, but that's just because I'd rather spend the money on warhammer.  :shh
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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2009, 10:22:51 AM »
haven't really changed my spending habits, frankly though i need to do so.

Let's move in with GilloD.  :-*

if we do that and he leaves for korea we'll have to put up with the danes and their love of ricky martin

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2009, 10:27:49 AM »
I've kind of went into conservative spender mode the last month or so, even though I would call myself a thrifty spender before. I've sold some old textbooks and some videogames last month and will probably sell some more.

Also, I was counting on getting a PS3 for Killzone 2, but I am definitely not going to be doing that now. I guess that has more to do with spending $400 on approx 2 games and the probability that it will collect dust rather than economic reasons though.

Saving, for me at least, is not really a problem. I plan to keep my 4.0 going this semester, so I need to spend the majority of my time doing schoolwork. But my wife on the other hand  :-\. I just checked our checking account last week only to find out that she subscribes to napster, without bothering to inform me. I have also mentioned to her that I would be fine without having cable service, since I hardly watch television, but she was not receptive to that either. in addition she goes out to eat at least 3 times a week while I maybe eat out once or twice every couple of weeks, if that even. I feel awkward asking her to tone down the spending, since she is the breadwinner at this point in time.
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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2009, 12:13:30 PM »
haven't really changed my spending habits, frankly though i need to do so.

Let's move in with GilloD.  :-*

if we do that and he leaves for korea we'll have to put up with the danes and their love of ricky martin

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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2009, 12:16:13 PM »
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« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2009, 12:17:52 PM »
"she bang.  is good yeah?"

"NO!"  *shoves cock in ear*  "SOUND GOOD NOW AMIGO?"

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2009, 03:27:46 PM »
The economy has scared me into starting a savings account. Extra money is going there.  I'm kind of glad that I dont drive so insurance and car notes aren't a concern. Impulse trips to the theater have stopped.  I'm going to rent more games before buying. No big purchases even though I could use a pc.

  Yet I am paying 415 a month for a fucking studio apartment and I dont have alot of choice in the matter because it is within walking distance of work.

  If I could quit smoking I'd have another hundred dollars or so, but it gets boring being fiscaly responsible.

Thinking of trying to get a second job for the third time.  The first two times I quit because of sleep deprivation. This time I just want weekend work.
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« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2009, 03:30:56 PM »
I need to drop money on a new pair of glasses.  I'm going with a dark tint (but not sunglasses dark).  I'm hoping it fixes the severe light sensitivity I've been having.
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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2009, 04:58:31 PM »
I started swapping games on goozex, and am selling DVDs and games on ebay to fund newer purchases in the attempt to keep my voracious gaming habit/ OOH SHINY impulses satisfied in an essentially zero-sum manner. So far it's working out well.
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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2009, 05:36:08 PM »
If I could quit smoking I'd have another hundred dollars or so, but it gets boring being fiscaly responsible.

I'm not sure if by 'fiscally responsible', you mean something like budgeting or just being aware of what you're spending, but if your do I think many people find budgeting is not restrictive or boring once you get into a rhythm.  It's a nice feeling really when you can spend 'entertainment' money knowing that you've also put aside plenty for bills/loan repayments/whatever.

I think if people find budgeting restrictive, either their budget is excessively tight, or they're simply living outside their means which has to come to an end eventually.

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2009, 06:42:10 PM »
Yet I am paying 415 a month for a fucking studio apartment and I dont have alot of choice in the matter because it is within walking distance of work.
What state or country do you live in?

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2009, 06:44:38 PM »
I'm saving more because (a) I'm making more and (b) I have less debt than before. My car loan is paid off, my credit cards have zero balances. But in terms of the day to day spending or big ticket acquisitions, my focus hasn't changed. I would not be in the market for a new car regardless of the economy, and I'm not all that interested in buying every last entertainment product that comes down the pipe, so I don't spend all that much on movies and games.

In the coming months, I may buy a notebook computer and maybe a larger monitor for my desktop PC (I got it in April 2004, but the PC itself is still plenty powerful enough for my needs). I may also buy a Blu-Ray player for myself. There's really nothing else relatively big-ticket that I see myself wanting or needing in the next couple of years, save for maybe a place to live. I may start looking for a condo or townhome, but I'm probably at least a year away from that.

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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2009, 11:17:56 PM »
We go out to eat a lot less. We haven't had dinner out in quite a while.
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Re: How has the current economic situation affected your buying habits?
« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2009, 12:24:17 AM »
Yet I am paying 415 a month for a fucking studio apartment and I dont have alot of choice in the matter because it is within walking distance of work.
What state or country do you live in?

Central Arkansas. Its a good location being next to a popular mall, but the apartments themselves are nothing special.
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