Author Topic: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~ (Read 84454 times)

cool breeze · « **Reply #600 on:** February 20, 2009, 10:18:21 AM »

I have the same problem and others mentioned it above. It seems like they made normal inputs more forgiving, so doing supers generally cross over.

like, say you do this input to pull off a super:

down + down-forward + forward + down + down-forward + forward

the game can just read it as a different attack because it now allows for a margin of error for the move contained in the total command:

down + down-forward + forward + down + down-forward + forward

only thing I've found that helps is to over do the movements and holding it a bit more forward on the 2nd quarter circle

Rman · « **Reply #601 on:** February 20, 2009, 11:57:46 AM »

Damn, I hate this unlocking crap.

Robo · « **Reply #602 on:** February 20, 2009, 12:13:21 PM »

The HARD challenges are tough! I don't have nearly enough patience for any of these. :'(

Rman · « **Reply #603 on:** February 20, 2009, 04:29:43 PM »

There's tons of shotoscrubs online. I'm not talking about good ken and ryu players. I don't mind those. Just dudes who heavy jump kick and low heavy kick all day.

Rman · « **Reply #604 on:** February 20, 2009, 04:47:34 PM »

Are you going to be playing tonight, Genghis? I would like to play some more matches again.

cool breeze · « **Reply #605 on:** February 20, 2009, 05:34:24 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on February 20, 2009, 04:38:28 PM

Quote from: Rman on February 20, 2009, 04:29:43 PM
There's tons of shotoscrubs online. I'm not talking about good ken and ryu players. I don't mind those. Just dudes who heavy jump kick and low heavy kick all day.

If it works, why not.

golden strategy when you don't know the character

Robo · « **Reply #606 on:** February 20, 2009, 05:51:22 PM »

if you want to lend a helping hand to the overly aggressive shoto scrubs, you can enroll them in the Zangief School of Learning to Play Safer, block and pile drive that shit until they come up with something new. lariat the jump ins, EX green glove through the fireballs, and pile drive all the blocked sweeps, dragon punches and hurricane kicks.

drohne · « **Reply #607 on:** February 20, 2009, 06:59:13 PM »

man, i'm really starting to like guile in this game, though i'm still worried i'm going to hit a wall with him eventually. he's more about pressuring, trapping, and baiting flashkickable ground attacks than his classic sf2 defensive game. i've been spending about half my time with ryu, but for whatever reason my guile is still much better

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #608 on:** February 20, 2009, 07:15:41 PM »

I just fought the worst fireball spammer with Akuma ever. Typically I don't care if I lose, but this guy just pissed me off.

drohne · « **Reply #609 on:** February 20, 2009, 07:19:17 PM »

akumas who run away and throw air fireballs and shakunetsus all day are so goddamned boring. thankfully the raging demon is easy to avoid in this game, because some of those assholes would beat you too in hd remix

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #610 on:** February 20, 2009, 07:21:31 PM »

Air fireball Air fireball Air fireball Air fireball Air fireball Air fireball

Over and over and over and over...

Fucking Hell!

Rman · « **Reply #611 on:** February 20, 2009, 07:25:34 PM »

Quote from: drohne on February 20, 2009, 06:59:13 PM

man, i'm really starting to like guile in this game, though i'm still worried i'm going to hit a wall with him eventually. he's more about pressuring, trapping, and baiting flashkickable ground attacks than his classic sf2 defensive game. i've been spending about half my time with ryu, but for whatever reason my guile is still much better

I'm a guile player as well; I do like the new changes. His new neckbreaking punch is awesome for turtles. I feel that the charge moves a take millisecond more than previous sf incarnations.

cool breeze · « **Reply #612 on:** February 20, 2009, 07:42:49 PM »

I picked up a PS3 pad today since I heard they were getting sold out, and if I ended up liking my 360 one (coming tomorrow I guess), I would have wanted one anyway. It's pretty great. Shoulder buttons and face buttons are great. Don't really like how start and selet are recessed, especially how turbo is higher than select. D-pad is a bit mushy/loose and corners are a bit hard too hit; just based on early impressions it seems only below the micro and saturn pads. Best part is how damn comfortable the thing is to hold. Only issue is the battery pack (I have the same problem with the wireless 360 controller), but that's fixed with the wired 360 one I'm getting. Other than that, great controller.

archie4208 · « **Reply #613 on:** February 20, 2009, 07:44:19 PM »

anyone wanna play a shitty honda? gt = archie4208

tiesto · « **Reply #614 on:** February 20, 2009, 07:45:14 PM »

Can't find a pad anywhere, and I've checked 2 fucking counties... They're also going for $80+ on amazon. Anybody know if MadCatz will be shipping more?

cool breeze · « **Reply #615 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:13:24 PM »

I hope you can find one or Mad Catz makes more. This pad is phenomenal. It's now my PC/emulation controller of choice; the usb saturn pad went in my closet.

Rman · « **Reply #616 on:** February 20, 2009, 09:53:03 PM »

Sagat is a beast.

Grecco · « **Reply #617 on:** February 20, 2009, 10:17:35 PM »

Quote from: drohne on February 20, 2009, 06:59:13 PM

man, i'm really starting to like guile in this game, though i'm still worried i'm going to hit a wall with him eventually. he's more about pressuring, trapping, and baiting flashkickable ground attacks than his classic sf2 defensive game. i've been spending about half my time with ryu, but for whatever reason my guile is still much better

$:-\$ i reeeeeeeeeeally hate the new Guile. Mind you my time has been limited with the game so far. But things like his upside down RH kick got nerfed.

cool breeze · « **Reply #618 on:** February 20, 2009, 10:19:47 PM »

Quote from: a slime appears on February 20, 2009, 09:55:17 PM

Quote from: Rman on February 20, 2009, 09:53:03 PM
Sagat is a beast.
Yeah, Sagat is awesome in this game. I love playing as him.

I'm surprised that shoto (does that mean new?) fighters don't play as him.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #619 on:** February 20, 2009, 10:20:01 PM »

Quote from: Rman on February 20, 2009, 09:53:03 PM

Sagat is a beast.

Funny, I want to throw something after fighting him, oh about 20 times in a row now. On easy. I had him down to a sliver in round 3. Twice.

I'm still trying, though.

Grecco · « **Reply #620 on:** February 20, 2009, 10:24:40 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on February 20, 2009, 10:19:47 PM

Quote from: a slime appears on February 20, 2009, 09:55:17 PM
Quote from: Rman on February 20, 2009, 09:53:03 PM
Sagat is a beast.
Yeah, Sagat is awesome in this game. I love playing as him.

I'm surprised that shoto (does that mean new?) fighters don't play as him.

Pretty sure Shoto is short for shotokan. The martial arts used by Ken/Ryu/Akuma

reason its related to new players is because they are the eaysest to use and thus most new players use.

cool breeze · « **Reply #621 on:** February 20, 2009, 10:25:32 PM »

makes sense

still, Sagat's move set is close enough and they're way better. His ranged attacks can be pumped out at such a fast pace

Rman · « **Reply #622 on:** February 20, 2009, 10:35:39 PM »

Conversely, Ken is kinda garbage. His super is easily interrupted--I know the shoryureppa is his classic super, but it has always sucked--and he just seems weaker, especially his heavy dragon punch.

cool breeze · « **Reply #623 on:** February 20, 2009, 11:22:42 PM »

Mad Catz PS3 Fight Pad

6:30 pm to 10:40 pm

we hardly knew ye :'(

oh mad catz, the controller design and all is awesome, so why does it gotta have the d-pad get stuck all the damn time. Gonna try and exchange this tomorrow.

drohne · « **Reply #624 on:** February 21, 2009, 03:08:04 AM »

Quote from: Grecco on February 20, 2009, 10:17:35 PM

$:-\$ i reeeeeeeeeeally hate the new Guile. Mind you my time has been limited with the game so far. But things like his upside down RH kick got nerfed.

relative to hd remix, you mean? it's not an overhead like it is in that game, but it recovers really fast and you can charge a boom while you're doing it -- pretty useful poke i find

guile's definitely weaker than he is in hd remix, but i dunno...the nerfed flashkick (and the generally reduced usefulness of fireballs) kind of makes him more interesting to play

Akala · « **Reply #625 on:** February 21, 2009, 03:55:46 AM »

This is the most fun I've had online in a game in a long while.

Even though I used to main Ryu in 3S, I've been playing Vega, simply because I've been dominating every Ken, Ryu, and Akuma that comes along. Actually, I've been crushing most shoto's I've played simply by picking a 'charge' character. Since 2/3 of people just pick the shoto/Sagat, it's been a lot of fun.

So far, having way more fun with this than I ever had w/ SC4. I even saw a 'lyteedge', but connection timed out in the lobby. :'(

I'd really like the option to rematch ranked fights, especially when I find someone who is fun to play.

If I can get a working pad, this may be GOTY.

drew · « **Reply #626 on:** February 21, 2009, 04:44:13 AM »

Quote from: swaggaz on February 20, 2009, 10:19:47 PM

I'm surprised that shoto (does that mean new?) fighters don't play as him.

im pretty sure shoto is loli scat

dont ask me how i know this

CurseoftheGods · « **Reply #627 on:** February 21, 2009, 11:11:51 AM »

Quote from: Rman on February 20, 2009, 10:35:39 PM

Conversely, Ken is kinda garbage. His super is easily interrupted--I know the shoryureppa is his classic super, but it has always sucked--and he just seems weaker, especially his heavy dragon punch.

I agree. His Ultra is pretty useless as well. :'(

Cheebs · « **Reply #628 on:** February 21, 2009, 11:20:40 AM »

I see A LOT more ken's than ryu online, like 80% of my online battles with strangers are against ken.

Beezy · « **Reply #629 on:** February 21, 2009, 11:56:05 AM »

Most Ken players that I've faced online in ranked matches are incredibly dumb. I'm able to beat them with only medium and hard kicks with my Bison because the idiots keep jumping at me.

FatalT · « **Reply #630 on:** February 21, 2009, 01:30:54 PM »

360 owners, add me: FatalT

I want to beat some Evilborean asses!

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #631 on:** February 21, 2009, 01:36:56 PM »

Okay, so, I've never really played a Street Fighter game before.

Should I look into this?

I know going in that it's going to be a lot tougher to get the hold of compared to, say, Soul Calibur. But I don't know, it just looks so cool.

Grecco · « **Reply #632 on:** February 21, 2009, 02:24:44 PM »

Its alot easyer to get into than previous SFers... Even easyer than SF2 HD Remix imo.

Beezy · « **Reply #633 on:** February 21, 2009, 02:37:35 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on February 21, 2009, 01:36:56 PM

Okay, so, I've never really played a Street Fighter game before.

Should I look into this?

I know going in that it's going to be a lot tougher to get the hold of compared to, say, Soul Calibur. But I don't know, it just looks so cool.

Yeah, I never seriously learned to play a SF game before this one and I'm loving it. Just make sure that you do the challenges with whoever you choose to play with since you're a noob like me.

CurseoftheGods · « **Reply #634 on:** February 21, 2009, 02:39:02 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on February 21, 2009, 01:36:56 PM

Okay, so, I've never really played a Street Fighter game before.

Should I look into this?

I know going in that it's going to be a lot tougher to get the hold of compared to, say, Soul Calibur. But I don't know, it just looks so cool.

Get it. It's very easy to get into.

MoxManiac · « **Reply #635 on:** February 21, 2009, 02:56:03 PM »

Hey lyte, did you want to play some more?

cool breeze · « **Reply #636 on:** February 21, 2009, 03:07:47 PM »

ok, I'm making Fei Long my main character because no one plays as him and he's pretty crappy, so I have a reason for why I lost, but I'm awesome if I win.

Vrolokus · « **Reply #637 on:** February 21, 2009, 03:21:17 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on February 21, 2009, 03:07:47 PM

ok, I'm making Fei Long my main character because no one plays as him and he's pretty crappy, so I have a reason for why I lost, but I'm awesome if I win.

That's sorta why I've been using Cammy. If I win, yay!; if I lose, hey, I picked Cammy.

All the shoto hate has made me really insecure when playing online. After 15 years of Street fighter, I'm only good with shotos, but I don't want to be part of the problem so I'm trying to pick other chars. But I feel like Oro with one hand tied behind my back. (That was a really geeky SF analogy to make.)

cool breeze · « **Reply #638 on:** February 21, 2009, 03:24:09 PM »

yeah, I'm the same way. I usually do random, and if I do land on a Ryu, Ken, Gouken, Sagat, etc. I do Random again. The only one of those character I do use is Dan, but all I try to do with him is land fireballs or taunt a lot.

Vrolokus · « **Reply #639 on:** February 21, 2009, 03:28:30 PM »

I've been fiddling with Zangief a bit, and is it just me or is the range for his spinning piledriver way shorter than in any previous SF? It seemed like in the SF2s you could catch someone practically halfway across the screen with it, now I've whiffed it an inch away.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #640 on:** February 21, 2009, 03:51:49 PM »

Do you all have pads, or are you playing with the 360/PS3 controller?

360 owners, is it really shitty playing with it?

archie4208 · « **Reply #641 on:** February 21, 2009, 03:54:58 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on February 21, 2009, 03:51:49 PM

Do you all have pads, or are you playing with the 360/PS3 controller?

360 owners, is it really shitty playing with it?

Honestly the 360 controller is not THAT horrible for charge characters. I can play Honda half decently using the analog stick. But shotos are near impossible to play with. I can never reliably get a dragon punch out.

Quote from: Vrolokus on February 21, 2009, 03:28:30 PM

I've been fiddling with Zangief a bit, and is it just me or is the range for his spinning piledriver way shorter than in any previous SF? It seemed like in the SF2s you could catch someone practically halfway across the screen with it, now I've whiffed it an inch away.

Throw range has been nerfed big time in comparison to HDR. I can't get an Ochio to connect unless I'm practically standing on top of the other guy.

Vrolokus · « **Reply #642 on:** February 21, 2009, 04:00:54 PM »

I'm using a SFIV pad while I wait on my TE from Amazon.

The pad is good, but I find it's not ideal for the real technical stuff - for example, trying to pull off complex combos in the challenge mode. I think a joystick would allow you to do things faster and more precisely.

That being said, the SFIV pad is worlds better than using a standard 360 controller.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #643 on:** February 21, 2009, 04:03:22 PM »

Mehh... $:-\$

I want to buy a new game but I don't want to be like 100 bucks out today. Maybe I should just get it for PS3...

Vrolokus · « **Reply #644 on:** February 21, 2009, 04:09:24 PM »

Frankly, I don't think the standard 360 controller is much worse than the standard PS3 controller when it comes to this. The Sixaxis has its own weaknesses.

It's not like SFIV is unplayable with a standard controller. You're just going to hit a wall in terms of performance earlier.

CurseoftheGods · « **Reply #645 on:** February 21, 2009, 04:24:38 PM »

Man, the PS3 online implementation kinda sucks. swaggaz invited me to a match, and I accepted thinking it would take me straight to the versus menu like in the Xbox version -- but it didn't do anything. Turns out that I have quit whatever mode I'm playing, go to the Network mode, and confirm a player match through there. Ugh.

Cheebs · « **Reply #646 on:** February 21, 2009, 04:26:10 PM »

Quote from: Vrolokus on February 21, 2009, 03:21:17 PM

That's sorta why I've been using Cammy. If I win, yay!; if I lose, hey, I picked Cammy.

All the shoto hate has made me really insecure when playing online. After 15 years of Street fighter, I'm only good with shotos, but I don't want to be part of the problem so I'm trying to pick other chars. But I feel like Oro with one hand tied behind my back. (That was a really geeky SF analogy to make.)

Hah, I am the same way. I used to always use ryu but I am forcing myself to learn cammy and sakura just not to use ryu or ken.

Vrolokus · « **Reply #647 on:** February 21, 2009, 04:34:05 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on February 21, 2009, 04:26:10 PM

Quote from: Vrolokus on February 21, 2009, 03:21:17 PM

That's sorta why I've been using Cammy. If I win, yay!; if I lose, hey, I picked Cammy.

All the shoto hate has made me really insecure when playing online. After 15 years of Street fighter, I'm only good with shotos, but I don't want to be part of the problem so I'm trying to pick other chars. But I feel like Oro with one hand tied behind my back. (That was a really geeky SF analogy to make.)
Hah, I am the same way. I used to always use ryu but I am forcing myself to learn cammy and sakura just not to use ryu or ken.

Good to know I'm not the only one. It's really hard this time because Sagat (who is the ubershoto) is such a beast. The temptation to pick him is great, especially when you run up against some full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow shoto who just whips fireballs all day.

bork · « **Reply #648 on:** February 21, 2009, 04:48:48 PM »

Quote from: CurseoftheGods on February 21, 2009, 04:24:38 PM

Man, the PS3 online implementation kinda sucks. swaggaz invited me to a match, and I accepted thinking it would take me straight to the versus menu like in the Xbox version -- but it didn't do anything. Turns out that I have quit whatever mode I'm playing, go to the Network mode, and confirm a player match through there. Ugh.

I have been having major problems playing this online on PS3. I can't search for matches; I get no results. Turns out that my PS3 is registering Nat 3 on its connection test. It's too strict, and I can't figure out how to open my Netopia router to allow for this. Everything we are trying is not working.

I had the same problem with my Xbox 360, but it was a snap to get the nat to open.

demi · « **Reply #649 on:** February 21, 2009, 04:50:24 PM »

Why would you care what people think of the character you play? Fuck em, just makes it more embarassing when they lose

archie4208 · « **Reply #650 on:** February 21, 2009, 04:55:11 PM »

Quote from: Vrolokus on February 21, 2009, 04:34:05 PM

Quote from: Cheebs on February 21, 2009, 04:26:10 PM
Quote from: Vrolokus on February 21, 2009, 03:21:17 PM

That's sorta why I've been using Cammy. If I win, yay!; if I lose, hey, I picked Cammy.

All the shoto hate has made me really insecure when playing online. After 15 years of Street fighter, I'm only good with shotos, but I don't want to be part of the problem so I'm trying to pick other chars. But I feel like Oro with one hand tied behind my back. (That was a really geeky SF analogy to make.)
Hah, I am the same way. I used to always use ryu but I am forcing myself to learn cammy and sakura just not to use ryu or ken.

Good to know I'm not the only one. It's really hard this time because Sagat (who is the ubershoto) is such a beast. The temptation to pick him is great, especially when you run up against some full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow shoto who just whips fireballs all day.

It's much more satisfying to destroy a shotoscrub with a rarely used character like Honda.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #651 on:** February 21, 2009, 05:04:41 PM »

I play a fierce Honda, or at least I do in SSF II Turbo HD. Nothing like owning someone while wearing a bath towel and diaper.

cool breeze · « **Reply #652 on:** February 21, 2009, 05:07:21 PM »

Quote from: CurseoftheGods on February 21, 2009, 04:24:38 PM

Man, the PS3 online implementation kinda sucks. swaggaz invited me to a match, and I accepted thinking it would take me straight to the versus menu like in the Xbox version -- but it didn't do anything. Turns out that I have quit whatever mode I'm playing, go to the Network mode, and confirm a player match through there. Ugh.

yeah, that was weird. I just got a black message from you wondering what it was all about.

it is a lot better than HD Remix. Only one match had lag and finding a match in ranked or player is usually very quick.

Cheebs · « **Reply #653 on:** February 21, 2009, 05:23:52 PM »

Quote from: the lyte edge on February 21, 2009, 04:48:48 PM

Quote from: CurseoftheGods on February 21, 2009, 04:24:38 PM
Man, the PS3 online implementation kinda sucks. swaggaz invited me to a match, and I accepted thinking it would take me straight to the versus menu like in the Xbox version -- but it didn't do anything. Turns out that I have quit whatever mode I'm playing, go to the Network mode, and confirm a player match through there. Ugh.

I have been having major problems playing this online on PS3. I can't search for matches; I get no results. Turns out that my PS3 is registering Nat 3 on its connection test. It's too strict, and I can't figure out how to open my Netopia router to allow for this. Everything we are trying is not working.

I had the same problem with my Xbox 360, but it was a snap to get the nat to open.

I always have a hard time searching for matches on PS3. Not finding them. I find plenty of them when searching but whenever I click on one it is already filled. It is a miracle if I can get in one before someone else, making it a waste of time. The only way to get in one is host myself because when I do someone pops in within seconds.

It will hopefully get better in a few weeks, but it seems like there is far too many online. I am guessing it is even worse on 360.

demi · « **Reply #654 on:** February 21, 2009, 05:26:13 PM »

Why would overcrowded online be a bad thing? PS3 owners

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #655 on:** February 21, 2009, 06:46:45 PM »

I saw a PS3 Street Fighter pad at a gamestop but didn't get it. Should I go back for it to ebay it? I don't have a PS3.

fuck, I should have tried to buy it

http://cgi.ebay.com/Street-Fighter-IV-4-Fight-Pad-Chun-Li-PS3-NEW_W0QQitemZ110354290145QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games_Accessories?hash=item110354290145&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #656 on:** February 21, 2009, 07:03:39 PM »

Why are they so fucking expensive?

archie4208 · « **Reply #657 on:** February 21, 2009, 07:05:35 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on February 21, 2009, 07:03:39 PM

Why are they so fucking expensive?

MadCatz vastly underestimated demand and only made a handfull of pads and sticks. I think only 3,000 TE sticks were made and they are going for >$400 on eBay.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #658 on:** February 21, 2009, 07:07:20 PM »

Jesus. How about the Hori ones?

Vrolokus · « **Reply #659 on:** February 21, 2009, 07:08:21 PM »

What's especially nuts is: isn't Madcatz going to make more? I have 2 360 TE sticks ordered at Amazon (supposedly ship next week), and if they're making more I'm inclined to sell 'em the day they show up.

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Author Topic: ~EB STREET FIGHTER IV THREAD~ (Read 84454 times)