Author Topic: Worst night ever (Read 6140 times)

The Fake Shemp · « **on:** February 10, 2009, 06:27:56 AM »

I took a new employee out for drinks to celebrate his first week on the job. He got totally drunk. Then he became belligerent towards another regular, who happens to be a Secret Service agent no less and the bartender told him to knock it off or leave. I was pleading with him to leave the guy alone and come back to our part of the bar. As I called a taxi - dude disappears.

Next thing I know is that the cops are called, and the manager of the bar said my employee contacted my DM. He calls me as I'm going home saying that the "bartender is done" and that he was assaulted and someone broke a beer bottle over his face. Then my DM calls me - angry as hell - and I'm forced to type up a statement when I get home. Now HR will be involved as of this morning.

:'(

Tieno · « **Reply #1 on:** February 10, 2009, 06:29:20 AM »

God damnit Wilco.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2009, 06:30:45 AM »

I just wish I knew what happened. I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone.

Word is that I might be done over this.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2009, 06:32:24 AM »

I hate angry/belligerent drunks.

Looks like your last two hires have backfired on you. Soon you'll get desperate and hire PR

edit: just read your last post. You can't really be held accountable for this, can you?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2009, 06:37:19 AM »

We will see today. I guess if the new guy declares that I invited him - I can, since I'm a superior. If I can make it seem like I went out for drinks and this person just happened to come with, probably not.

But we'll also have to see what the fuck happened.

He's claiming he was assaulted with a broken beer bottle and all this nonsense. I'm a regular at that bar and that's not something the bartender would do.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2009, 06:43:48 AM »

Does Hollywood Video have a specific policy regarding drinking with employees?

demi · « **Reply #6 on:** February 10, 2009, 06:45:31 AM »

See what happens when you be social? Fucks sake, Willco. Do I have to be a role model for everything?

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #7 on:** February 10, 2009, 06:50:58 AM »

Quote from: Jinfash on February 10, 2009, 06:44:11 AM

whoa wait a minute, I think I got some things wrong here (my English is failing):

Who called you while you were going home? DM or your new employee?

Who got hit by a beer bottle? New employee or Bartender?

Your English isn't the problem; the pronoun didn't have a clear antecedent.

The employee called Willco claiming that he was hit with a beer bottle and saying that the bartender was done. Afterward, the DM called Willco.

demi · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2009, 06:52:07 AM »

Has anyone been keeping track of these tales of Willco? I need to set up some blog for this shit. We could have a great source of ad revenue. Think about it.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2009, 06:52:45 AM »

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2009, 06:58:24 AM »

Quote from: Malek on February 10, 2009, 06:43:48 AM

Does Hollywood Video have a specific policy regarding drinking with employees?

No, but if he can claim it's a work related event - I could get in trouble.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #11 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:09:36 AM »

actsofwilco.com

drohne · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:17:26 AM »

i still don't understand what the district manager has got to do with a bar fight -- why did your employee call him in the first place

cubicle47b · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:18:34 AM »

Why the fuck would the employee have the DM's number in the first place?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:20:03 AM »

Well, here's his story (just found out). His version of what the bartender and the regular said varied from mine - he claims they physically threatened him. Then he went outside to phone a ride behind the bar and two guys claimed they knew me and that I hate him and beat him up. He has a broken hand and his cell phone is cracked now - he had to go the hospital. He called my DM to allege that I told these guys to jump him or something, and that they knew the bartender and the regular.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #15 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:20:17 AM »

Quote from: cubicle47b on February 10, 2009, 08:18:34 AM

Why the fuck would the employee have the DM's number in the first place?

He's a keyholder.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #16 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:23:30 AM »

Quote from: Willco on February 10, 2009, 08:20:03 AM

Well, here's his story (just found out). His version of what the bartender and the regular said varied from mine - he claims they physically threatened him. Then he went outside to phone a ride behind the bar and two guys claimed they knew me and that I hate him and beat him up. He has a broken hand and his cell phone is cracked now - he had to go the hospital. He called my DM to allege that I told these guys to jump him or something, and that they knew the bartender and the regular.

so do you think the district manager knows you well enough to know you wouldn't do something like that?

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #17 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:27:42 AM »

mental problems and can't hold his liquor, tsk tsk

just deny everything and say you made the invitation after work hours

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #18 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:35:06 AM »

this story doesn't make any sense. You don't even have a motive to beat your new employee up.

T234 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:44:02 AM »

Sounds like you hired my cousin Rebel.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #20 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:45:35 AM »

i like to think we all have a cousin rebel somewhere

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #21 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:53:19 AM »

Retail! Tried to warn you.

Bocsius · « **Reply #22 on:** February 10, 2009, 09:06:42 AM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on February 10, 2009, 08:53:19 AM

Retail! Tried to warn you.

^^^

Lesson 1: Retail sucks.
Lesson 2: Don't hang out with your employees.
Lesson 3: Retail sucks.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #23 on:** February 10, 2009, 09:25:44 AM »

He was a key holder after 1 week on the job?

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #24 on:** February 10, 2009, 09:28:42 AM »

Quote from: Zero Hero on February 10, 2009, 09:25:44 AM

He was a key holder after 1 week on the job?

You can get hired AS a keyholder, you know.

Seriously Federwang, get the hell out of the retail ghetto. Do what I'm doing and go back to school, the economy should be ready for you to have a real job in 3-4 years.

Eric P · « **Reply #25 on:** February 10, 2009, 10:17:27 AM »

you need to hire more irish people.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #26 on:** February 10, 2009, 10:33:26 AM »

Wow, I'm fucking sorry. That is fucking horrible.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #27 on:** February 10, 2009, 11:57:34 AM »

holy crap, keep us posted! this dude sounds fuckall crazy

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #28 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:07:57 PM »

you hired Rebel?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #29 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:09:53 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 10, 2009, 12:07:57 PM

you hired Rebel?

you can't even read one fucking page

TVC15 · « **Reply #30 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:21:07 PM »

Yikes, Will. I hope you escape this unscathed. I'd hope that the relevant people realize that his story is kinda obviously bullshit. I hope you learn your lesson and never do anything nice for anyone you don't know well again.

muckhole · « **Reply #31 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:49:13 PM »

That really sucks, Willco. You'd think as a newer employee being invited out by his superior he'd have shown a bit of restraint hitting the booze. Sounds like a real cock. As TVC said, I hope your higher-ups see through this clown.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #32 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:59:00 PM »

Find out where he lives and then break his kneecaps. That'll teach him to respect the pecking order at Hollywood Video.

Ecrofirt · « **Reply #33 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:59:52 PM »

Willco, I have one question:
Do you have a current resume? Sounds like you'll likely need it.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #34 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:10:47 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on February 10, 2009, 12:21:07 PM

Yikes, Will. I hope you escape this unscathed. I'd hope that the relevant people realize that his story is kinda obviously bullshit. I hope you learn your lesson and never do anything nice for anyone again.

This. Good luck with everything.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #35 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:19:56 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 10, 2009, 12:09:53 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 10, 2009, 12:07:57 PM
you hired Rebel?

you can't even read one fucking page

can't take a joke. valentines month depression nikka?

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #36 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:28:56 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 10, 2009, 01:19:56 PM

Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 10, 2009, 12:09:53 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 10, 2009, 12:07:57 PM
you hired Rebel?

you can't even read one fucking page

can't take a joke. valentines month depression nikka?

The problem is that T234, Rebel's actual cousin, already used that joke earlier in the thread.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #37 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:30:40 PM »

Oh, fuck me

that's what I get for only reading Willco's posts

Brehvolution · « **Reply #38 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:33:45 PM »

How do you only read the OP and skip all the replies?

I read almost every thread since I joined. I might not have posted in a thread, but I've read every single post.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #39 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:37:09 PM »

Quote from: Zero Hero on February 10, 2009, 01:33:45 PM

How do you only read the OP and skip all the replies?

I read almost every thread since I joined. I might not have posted in a thread, but I've read every single post.

So, where did you come from? Couldn't have been GAF.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #40 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:41:54 PM »

Some gaf threads get big quick. If it is less than 200 posts before I see it, I'll read the whole thing if I'm interested in the subject. It doesn't take too long.

tehjaybo · « **Reply #41 on:** February 10, 2009, 06:15:10 PM »

Hire two people to beat his ass so he has something to compare the two to, so that he may then see the clear difference.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #42 on:** February 10, 2009, 06:20:06 PM »

Jesus. Also what happened with that girl Wilco?

brawndolicious · « **Reply #43 on:** February 10, 2009, 06:27:15 PM »

yeah, it doesn't look like you're going to get in (too much) trouble. It's a he-said, he-said situation and believing the new guy would require believing that a belligerent drunk wasn't looking for trouble, that you sent guys to beat him up for some reason, AND that these guys mentioned that they were doing this for you. He must have not been totally sober when he called up the DM and maybe the DM is just panicky right now but he'll probably calm down soon and tell you to let the new guy go.

I'm guessing that after getting into a fight, the new guy thought that you you might report his behavior which could get him fired of course so he called up the DM and blamed it all on you. The problem is that you probably have a good record and of course, you know the DM better than he does so there's no way the DM won't take your side (hopefully).

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #44 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:20:23 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on February 10, 2009, 06:20:06 PM

Jesus. Also what happened with that girl Wilco?

I called her after I got home late last night. I'm kind of an insensitive prick that keeps my emotions at a distance, but booze destroys that self-defense mechanism. We talked for a bit and I wasn't trashed - I know what I said to her. She referred to me as a "love-y" drunk this morning and was all giggling about it. But - aha! - I was sober and went back to my normal routine (telling her I hate her, she's old, etc.). Sucker.

Have not heard anything from work. HR told me to expect a call back, which I never received. Don't know if that's good or bad. I faxed a statement from the restaurant/bar that basically was almost EXACTLY what I said verbatim, just with more detail.

The employee claimed he did not call the police, but the bar's statement is that the police officer actually responded to someone calling and saying they were assaulted. So it had to be him. Within a span of ten minutes, he apparently was kicked out of the place, assaulted, "did not call the police", called the DM and walked home. The timeline doesn't add up.

It's all irrelevant, as it looks like I'm going to catch some disciplinary action for drinking with a subordinate.

TVC15 · « **Reply #45 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:22:14 PM »

Is drinking with a subordinate outside of work not a good thing? It's not like you were trying to drug him and play with his toys.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #46 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:22:48 PM »

Quote from: Willco on February 10, 2009, 07:20:23 PM

It's all irrelevant, as it looks like I'm going to catch some disciplinary action for drinking with a subordinate.

WTF is this?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #47 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:26:50 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on February 10, 2009, 07:22:14 PM

Is drinking with a subordinate outside of work not a good thing? It's not like you were trying to drug him and play with his toys.

I'm going to be nailed for some kind of inappropriate work conduct by as I'm a salaried employee or that I created a hostile work environment because of an off-the-clock incident.

TVC15 · « **Reply #48 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:27:59 PM »

Quote from: Willco on February 10, 2009, 07:26:50 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on February 10, 2009, 07:22:14 PM
Is drinking with a subordinate outside of work not a good thing? It's not like you were trying to drug him and play with his toys.

I'm going to be nailed for some kind of inappropriate work conduct by as I'm a salaried employee or that I created a hostile work environment because of an off-the-clock incident.

So basically, even though you didn't do anything wrong, you are getting punished because the dumbass called the DM?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #49 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:30:33 PM »

And my poor judgment in taking out an employee at a place that serves alcohol.

TVC15 · « **Reply #50 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:32:17 PM »

Quote from: Willco on February 10, 2009, 07:30:33 PM

And my poor judgment in taking out an employee at a place that serves alcohol.

Would they really punish you for this, though? Everyone of age goes to places that serve booze in order to relax. Going to a bar with coworkers is a common experience across America. Probably the world.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #51 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:32:30 PM »

Lesson learned: Can't be nice to an employee in the future because the world is full of douches.

Akala · « **Reply #52 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:42:44 PM »

Sucks. Should have taken him to Chili's.

TVC15 · « **Reply #53 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:45:44 PM »

Quote from: Akala on February 10, 2009, 07:42:44 PM

Sucks. Should have taken him to Chili's.

They serve alcohol!

brawndolicious · « **Reply #54 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:52:44 PM »

I'd still be hopeful that they don't punish you to harshly but don't argue with them if they are unfair. Do you think they will fire the new guy? They should but they might not be able to prove that he did anything wrong. It would suck if you still had to work with him.

drew · « **Reply #55 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:54:34 PM »

Quote from: Groo on February 10, 2009, 08:12:54 AM

Should have taken some videos with your phone or something.

blackberry curves dont have video recording

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #56 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:56:00 PM »

Quote from: Willco on February 10, 2009, 07:30:33 PM

And my poor judgment in taking out an employee at a place that serves alcohol.

Fuck, what a bunch of horseshit. Back in the day my dm used to take us out to strip clubs, what a bunch of pussy ass bs retail has turned into.

Akala · « **Reply #57 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:08:09 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on February 10, 2009, 07:45:44 PM

They serve alcohol!

Yeah, but none of this would have ever happened at Chili's! Have you ever heard of anyone getting beat up at Chili's? If you get beat up at Chili's, you deserve it. Case closed.

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Joe Molotov · « **Reply #58 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:15:27 PM »

Dang, that sucks Wilco. I hope you don't get forced out onto the street.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #59 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:56:12 PM »

Quote from: Drewsy on February 10, 2009, 07:54:34 PM

Quote from: Groo on February 10, 2009, 08:12:54 AM
Should have taken some videos with your phone or something.

blackberry curves dont have video recording

They do with the latest software update.

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Author Topic: Worst night ever (Read 6140 times)