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EmCeeGrammar

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Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« on: February 11, 2009, 05:35:39 PM »
I read in the reviews that I should anticipate frame freezes with certain weapons, but the framerate stutters constantly. During reloads, perspective changes, enemies taking damage, etc. If you cant pull this shit off on the wii then cut back on some of the filters and lighting and shit.  The dialouge is bad too. Detective Washington may be the most offensive stereotype I've ever encountered in any medium. I have f-bomb fatigue and just wish he would shut up. Its like they were going for "so bad its funny" but this is a testament to how someone could fuck up that concept.

With that out of the way, I do like it.
-Addictive combo-based score gameplay.  Ascend from extreme violence all the way up to goregasm and receive multipliers to rack up your score.  Your final score is converted into cash which can be used to purchase new weapons and weapons upgrades.

-So far I've only unlocked the SMG, but it seems like weapons are balanced so that more powerful ones have lesser accurracy. This means that although they're useful for getting through the level, your score will suffer because combos are'nt likely.

-Aside from framerate the motif of exploitation cinema is a brilliant artistic endeavor. I love the grainy film filter and the blood splatters that paint the walls during gameplay. Good use of color.  Music is awesome in a corny way and I think its all original.

-Haven't unlocked hard mode, so for now everything is kind of easy. You get unlimited continues but it will half your score. Director's Cut is unlocked later and uses a 3 credits system.  Bosses are kind of pushovers but are pretty creative.  One summons somersaulting zombie clowns, another uses room in the furniture as a kind of telekinetic shield. Hopefully they put up more of a fight on hard mode.

That's most of the important stuff. If you haven't sold your wii in disgust yet I'd recommend it as a rental
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2009, 05:38:44 PM »
like a demi review, this means the game will be insanely good
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2009, 05:39:57 PM »
My reviews are 100% accurate with a slice of wisdom
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2009, 05:40:53 PM »
I'll try it after Tenchu. I don't have a gun shell and I'd like to use one of those.
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2009, 05:49:02 PM »
I don't have the attention span to write a critical, well-thought out review. I got Deadly Creatures too, so expect a bullet-point topic on that.  Just read the manual on that, and the waggle controls sounds crazy.

edit: oh god, the waggle combat is terrible. What a surprise.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2009, 06:33:07 PM by EmCeeGrammar »
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2009, 07:00:01 PM »
I'll try it after Tenchu. I don't have a gun shell and I'd like to use one of those.

Back to back Wii gaming  :duh

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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2009, 07:11:02 PM »
I just picked it up.  Hope it's good.

I've been playing my Wii too much these days.  First Tenchu 4, then Disaster, and now HotD.  At least I have some healthy PC gaming with FEAR 2 to break it up.

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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2009, 07:16:12 PM »
I turned on my Wii to see if Bubble Bobble was up earlier in the week.  It wasn't so I turned it off.

That has been the extent of my Wii playing since uh, Tatsunoko came out and was played for a week or two with friends before moving on.  I'm sure there is some fun to be found on the Wii, but with a backlog of games on better systems I can't bring myself to play anything on it.

Next time I turn on my Wii will be to play Madworld.

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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2009, 07:26:35 PM »
madworld will be shit, calling it now
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2009, 07:34:52 PM »
madworld will be shit, calling it now
liking nom-shit...
hating platinum...

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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2009, 07:40:30 PM »
uh uh uh, back up. I love "Platinum" in that I love the people at Platinum who make games.

Shigenori Nishikawa is not Inaba or Kamiya. He's directed Assignment Ada (crap) and was a planner on Dino Crisis 3. Forgive me for not going nuts over "platinum." Clover is making Bayonetta.

Everything I've heard people say about this game is that you waggle a lot and the graphics are cool. Wow.
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2009, 07:41:29 PM »
Everything I've heard people say about this game is that you waggle a lot and the graphics are cool. Wow.
perhaps it's too hardcore for you...
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2009, 07:44:22 PM »
Everything I've heard people say about this game is that you waggle a lot and the graphics are cool. Wow.
perhaps it's too hardcore for you... (Image removed from quote.)
awesome smilie lol
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2009, 07:46:58 PM »
"Perhaps you're not hardcore... but hardlycore? "
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2009, 07:51:15 PM »
uh uh uh, back up. I love "Platinum" in that I love the people at Platinum who make games.

Shigenori Nishikawa is not Inaba or Kamiya. He's directed Assignment Ada (crap) and was a planner on Dino Crisis 3. Forgive me for not going nuts over "platinum." Clover is making Bayonetta.

Everything I've heard people say about this game is that you waggle a lot and the graphics are cool. Wow.

despite my avatar on gaf, I'm staying reasonably hyped for MadWorld, not overboard like some others.  I think the idea that it will be God Hand 2 is wrong and Crushed said it well by saying it's more like Dead Rising.  The only things so far that have me worried are people comparing it to No More Heroes, lacking variety in stages (more the fault of style), and on Idle Thumbs when they said the motion controls are poor.

btw, Disaster is enjoyable.  Nintendo should have brought it out over here and it's sure better than stuff like Bwii.

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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2009, 08:35:22 PM »
haha, fuck all the jibba-jabba, this game is awesome
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2009, 09:12:55 PM »
as i said at the other board - the best thing is, somewhere today, a mom picked this up for her kids thinking "oh it's just shooting monsters, it can't be that bad..." and her jaw hit the floor about five seconds into the opening credits
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2009, 09:16:32 PM »
Its a good b minus game for sure. The kind some here pride themselves for appreciating. The ending is all kinds of fucked up.
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2009, 09:35:54 PM »
as i said at the other board - the best thing is, somewhere today, a mom picked this up for her kids thinking "oh it's just shooting monsters, it can't be that bad..." and her jaw hit the floor about five seconds into the opening credits

you just convinced me to start this before FEAR 2

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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2009, 09:35:56 PM »
Who would pay $50 for a wii game

EmCeeGrammar

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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2009, 09:53:43 PM »
Who would pay $50 for a wii game

Who would pay $60 for any game?
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2009, 10:28:34 PM »
I wouldn't pay $50 for a light gun shooter. But rental on the way!
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2009, 10:39:04 PM »
i didn't pay $50 for it, i traded stuff, BOOYAH
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2009, 10:53:42 PM »
too bad the waggle wand is always a tad off in these games
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2009, 10:54:08 PM »
I had some e-gift cards from Christmas left over, so go me. Doesn't ship until tomorrow though.
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2009, 11:05:59 PM »
I have to pick this up for my sister, I promised it to her when I got her a Wii for Christmas.

She's a total girlie-girl in all things, but boy, does she love shooting zombies. It's bizarre.
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2009, 12:02:18 AM »
the word fuck has been shouted approximately eight thousand times so far in this game, and i am only on the third level

and yeah, there are some annoying micro-pauses when there's heavy splatter going on - nothing game breaking, but it does interrupt the flow

also, let me reiterate that no matter how much you calibrate the waggle wand it is always a bit off (you learn to compensate)
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2009, 04:12:10 AM »
I'm playing it on a CRT HD and the aiming is spot-on.  I mean, really, really good.

Anyways, I haven't had enough time with it to give it a definitive judgment, I can say for certain that I'm loving the shit outta it so far.  Perhaps as I get farther into the game the stuttery framerate will be more of a problem, but so far I can't really complain about it so much, either I'm not noticing it or it really isn't that big of a problem.  I dunno.  My complaint about the graphics would be is that I'd like to see better dismemberment, but its not a bad looker by any means.

The scoring system is really nifty, I quite like it.  I love the deliberately cheesy and actually pretty well done dialog and voice acting (its very funny and likely to make you temporarily more profane).  And once again, maybe I'm just a lucky sumbitch, but holy shit, the control is fecking wonderful.  The way the view moves over as you aim at edge of the screen is just so damn cool, and useful.

So yeah, based on my limited play time, so far, so good.

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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2009, 08:01:59 AM »
Can you turn off the cursor ala HotD2&3 on the Wii?  I thought that worked really well provided you sat still enough.

It's a shame the framerate is so lousy.  Does it even try to go for 60 fps?  Or is it 30 fps with slowdown (which is horrible for a rail shooter game)?

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« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2009, 08:06:03 AM »
yeah, you can turn off the cursor

it might be how close i'm sitting to the tv (around 7 feet), but i can never get these wii lightgun games calibrated to my liking - it's always a tad off, and i have to compensate

it's not so much framerate slowdown as it is these millisecond pauses that happen when a heavy effect appears onscreen
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« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2009, 01:47:29 PM »
Game is pretty enjoyable.  Way better than REUC, worse than HoTD2+3.  The default options they put on like moving the camera with the cursor pointed near the edges and rumbling when you paint over an enemy are dumb and turning them off made it play a bit better, but it's still a rail shooter more than a light gun shooter.

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« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2009, 02:37:10 PM »
Game is pretty enjoyable.  Way better than REUC, worse than HoTD2+3.  The default options they put on like moving the camera with the cursor pointed near the edges and rumbling when you paint over an enemy are dumb and turning them off made it play a bit better, but it's still a rail shooter more than a light gun shooter.

You're Linkzg, aren't you?
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2009, 03:39:47 PM »
yeah

did anyone else who got this game upgrade to both the shotgun and autoshotgun yet? (or uzi to assault rifle) I'm thinking of just skipping over the lvl1 weaopns and going for the big ones.  I already have my pistol upgraded and have no trouble even with extra mutant on.

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« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2009, 10:02:22 PM »
yeah

did anyone else who got this game upgrade to both the shotgun and autoshotgun yet? (or uzi to assault rifle) I'm thinking of just skipping over the lvl1 weaopns and going for the big ones.  I already have my pistol upgraded and have no trouble even with extra mutant on.

I just started director's cut so I have to rebuy all the weapons.  Their are "achievement" unlocks for stockpiling a certain amount of money so I may go for the higher tier weapons this time.
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2009, 06:39:28 PM »
This game is really good but Wii pointing DOES NOT WORK ON MY TV. 

This happens everytime.  My tv is anti-wii (CRT HDTV).  The only way I can play is by using the cursor and doing very small movements while sitting perfectly still with the wiimote at waist height.  When I go to calibrate it, it says point at the upper left and I do and shoot and then it says point at the bottom right but whenever I point there it says POINT WIIMOTE AT SCREEN and I have to basically point in the center for it to register.

Still the game is pretty playable with a cursor and it's a million times better than RE UC.  The level are quick, the zombies actually react to bullets, and the bosses seem pretty good so far.  I'd love to see this ported to PS3/X360 with a real light gun, but it's pretty good here.

I don't see how people can play without a cursor since the Wiimote is not that accurate.  Does using one of those perfect shot cases make it work better?  I'm just using the wiimote by itself. 

Also do you guys play in widescreen?  It feels like my aim is a lot more accurate in 4:3 so I changed to that after the first level.

My only complaint about the game itself is that you can't shoot holes in zombies like HoTD 1-3.  :(  At least there are still headshots though.

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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2009, 03:19:13 AM »
yeah

did anyone else who got this game upgrade to both the shotgun and autoshotgun yet? (or uzi to assault rifle) I'm thinking of just skipping over the lvl1 weaopns and going for the big ones.  I already have my pistol upgraded and have no trouble even with extra mutant on.

I just started director's cut so I have to rebuy all the weapons.  Their are "achievement" unlocks for stockpiling a certain amount of money so I may go for the higher tier weapons this time.

Now to elaborate. Stockpiled 5000 in director's cut for the achievement and then purchased the assault rifle.  Its a serial killer.  One burst kills anything and the bosses all become ridiculously easy. But comboing is almost impossible because it fires in bursts.  Next I'm going to see if the auto shotgun breaks the game.
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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2009, 03:24:01 AM »
I turned on my Wii to see if Bubble Bobble was up earlier in the week.  It wasn't so I turned it off.

That has been the extent of my Wii playing since uh, Tatsunoko came out and was played for a week or two with friends before moving on.  I'm sure there is some fun to be found on the Wii, but with a backlog of games on better systems I can't bring myself to play anything on it.

Next time I turn on my Wii will be to play Madworld.

I haven't turned my Wii on since March of last year.

Worst system purchase ever.
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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2009, 03:47:10 AM »
I turned on my Wii to see if Bubble Bobble was up earlier in the week.  It wasn't so I turned it off.

That has been the extent of my Wii playing since uh, Tatsunoko came out and was played for a week or two with friends before moving on.  I'm sure there is some fun to be found on the Wii, but with a backlog of games on better systems I can't bring myself to play anything on it.

Next time I turn on my Wii will be to play Madworld.

I haven't turned my Wii on since March of last year.

Worst system purchase ever.

What the hell came out in March? Was it Smash? I don't remember.
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2009, 03:49:10 AM »
I turned on my Wii for LIT, and secret Wii game, so far
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« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2009, 03:50:01 AM »
I turned on my Wii to see if Bubble Bobble was up earlier in the week.  It wasn't so I turned it off.

That has been the extent of my Wii playing since uh, Tatsunoko came out and was played for a week or two with friends before moving on.  I'm sure there is some fun to be found on the Wii, but with a backlog of games on better systems I can't bring myself to play anything on it.

Next time I turn on my Wii will be to play Madworld.

I haven't turned my Wii on since March of last year.

Worst system purchase ever.

What the hell came out in March? Was it Smash? I don't remember.

I had loaned out my Wii to someone else and I didn't get it back until March, at which point I snagged Smash.
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Re: Hotd Overkill is really rough around the edges
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2009, 04:15:03 AM »
Wait, who made the boom blox is like peggle in my ass thread?
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« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2009, 04:15:36 AM »
Oh shit, I did.  I forgot about that.  That was what, June or July?
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