Author Topic: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower (Read 4642 times)

Rman · « **on:** February 12, 2009, 08:50:13 PM »

Get this game. We need too support innovative game design.

Oblivion · « **Reply #1 on:** February 12, 2009, 08:52:27 PM »

I've only seen screens. What does this game do that's innovative?

Rman · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2009, 08:55:27 PM »

Motion controls that actually work, amazing art direction, coupled with addictive mechanics. I would say the concept is pretty innovative--you'll be hard pressed to find these types of games on the HD consoles, which are in danger in becoming FPS machines.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2009, 08:57:06 PM »

FPS

Third · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2009, 08:58:20 PM »

Bought it and played it.

Shit controls. But it looks good.

Draft · « **Reply #5 on:** February 12, 2009, 09:13:07 PM »

distinguished mentally-challenged fellow simple games don't need any more support.

Perhaps you haven't seen the last 20 or so NPDs?

MCD · « **Reply #6 on:** February 12, 2009, 09:16:20 PM »

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #7 on:** February 12, 2009, 09:18:46 PM »

Surrender to your waggle overlords, HDfags.

cool breeze · « **Reply #8 on:** February 12, 2009, 09:19:50 PM »

actual 'game' of it is pretty shallow, but it's a really beautiful game. If Rare is the worst at making visually pleasing games, whoever made this game are the best.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2009, 10:43:39 PM »

Fuck flower, buy noby noby boy next week bitches.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2009, 11:06:36 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on February 12, 2009, 09:19:50 PM

actual 'game' of it is pretty shallow

Most of the "arty" ones are.

cool breeze · « **Reply #11 on:** February 12, 2009, 11:10:14 PM »

the real difference between this and things like fl0w and Braid is that it's fun to play, but the things you're doing is flying over to collect things over and over. Controls are really great and doing moves like a 180 kinda just work when you want them to; you're not really sure how you pulled it off, but when want it to happen it happens.

Bebpo · « **Reply #12 on:** February 12, 2009, 11:17:06 PM »

Wario64 said the final stage is awesome so I bought it. Otherwise at $10 I would have passed since it looked really non-gamey like Flow (which I liked but was only worth really $5ish).

I will play soon.

cool breeze · « **Reply #13 on:** February 12, 2009, 11:30:57 PM »

the final stage is amazing

and it's way better than flow. flow sucked.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #14 on:** February 12, 2009, 11:43:10 PM »

So is there a demo

dammitmattt · « **Reply #15 on:** February 12, 2009, 11:54:18 PM »

No demo and it should be $5, but I'm still enjoying it.

In fact, my wife played through the first two levels and liked it, although it was a bit frustrating watching her constantly waggle too much. Any game that sucks my wife in for more than 3 seconds has my vote!

pilonv1 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 12, 2009, 11:57:46 PM »

will wait for a demo

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #17 on:** February 12, 2009, 11:59:35 PM »

its really good

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #18 on:** February 13, 2009, 12:00:42 AM »

No demo, no buy

This is 2009, come the fuck on Sony

rubber feathers · « **Reply #19 on:** February 13, 2009, 12:38:31 AM »

it's really good

and admiral, I completely agree with you re: demos (reason why I haven't bought crash commando, everyday shooter, lumines, crash commando, etc), but I made an exception with this game. even after the first level I love it.

Bebpo · « **Reply #20 on:** February 13, 2009, 12:39:35 AM »

I've done two levels and it's a better prince of persia than price of persia was.

dammitmattt · « **Reply #21 on:** February 13, 2009, 12:53:45 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on February 13, 2009, 12:39:35 AM

I've done two levels and it's a better prince of persia than price of persia was.

Except it has even more collectibles!

To do the dude (and anyone else) who said the controls suck - you're an idiot. It's the best Sixaxis motion control yet.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #22 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:04:17 AM »

Quote from: rubber feathers on February 13, 2009, 12:38:31 AM

it's really good

and admiral, I completely agree with you re: demos (reason why I haven't bought crash commando, everyday shooter, lumines, crash commando, etc), but I made an exception with this game. even after the first level I love it.

Crash Commando is another great example.

Then that VW GTI turd gets a demo, wtf?

Bebpo · « **Reply #23 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:17:07 AM »

Yeah, I passed on Crash Commando because there was no demo and I don't trust XBLA/PSN games in general for quality purposes.

Bebpo · « **Reply #24 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:28:44 AM »

Quote from: Green Man on February 13, 2009, 01:26:10 AM

No trolling but is flower actually a game? It looked more like an interactive screensaver to me. Is it sometype of puzzle game?

It's like a 3d flying sim where you can't die. Is pretty fun, controls decently considering motion controls are made of the devil's flesh, has really nice music and art.

cool breeze · « **Reply #25 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:38:48 AM »

it's collecting flowers by controlling the wind using the sixaxis in a 3D space. You'd be surprised by how entertaining that is when you throw in beautiful graphics, music, and, for the first time ever, good sixaxis control.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #26 on:** February 13, 2009, 02:14:44 AM »

Tieno · « **Reply #27 on:** February 13, 2009, 02:42:00 AM »

Is there a demo? No demo, no buy. Don't wanna get burned on these 'innovative' titles.

cool breeze · « **Reply #28 on:** February 13, 2009, 02:54:55 AM »

I don't get why games on PSN don't get demos. I would have bought Pain at release if they had a demo, but instead I waited until the sale months after.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 13, 2009, 03:00:08 AM »

Well, what kind of demo could they have really made for Pain without basically including the whole "game?" In some cases I think it's understandable, but yeah... I would like a demo here. Still buying it at some point, because I'm tough that way.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Or something.

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Ninja · « **Reply #30 on:** February 13, 2009, 06:24:52 AM »

Flower is awesome. I played through it last night. The last level is incredible, up there with Area 5 in Rez.

Akala · « **Reply #31 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:15:35 AM »

Will buy at five dollars.

tiesto · « **Reply #32 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:55:18 AM »

I was interested in this when I saw a video of it, will buy.

dark1x · « **Reply #33 on:** February 13, 2009, 09:16:34 AM »

Quote from: Ninja on February 13, 2009, 06:24:52 AM

Flower is awesome. I played through it last night. The last level is incredible, up there with Area 5 in Rez.

Yeah, I suppose that's a pretty good comparison, actually. In a way, this is a very "Rez-like" game.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #34 on:** February 13, 2009, 09:56:19 AM »

I'll wait for the PC knockoff flash game.

dammitmattt · « **Reply #35 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:10:32 PM »

I like it a bit more than dcharlie and I feel that it's more of a "game," but I don't see how some people are getting so completely excited about it. It's a fun little game for an hour or two and that's it. It doesn't transcend anything.

jiji · « **Reply #36 on:** February 13, 2009, 02:46:15 PM »

PS3 has motion controls? I totally forgot.

But I'll probably get this. It's pretty.

Ninja · « **Reply #37 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:24:29 PM »

But flower is something new and r-type is a remake of something that's been released in about 100 versions.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #38 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:27:22 PM »

but r-type is two rad games and flower is a tech demo

Ninja · « **Reply #39 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:43:07 PM »

I agree with that, I don't think $15 is too much for R-Type but I can see Flower being a more appealing purchase as it's an interesting experience, even though it's prety short. To beat it in an hour you'd have to be really rushing it though. It took me over two hours and I didn't find most of the secret flowers or unlock many trophies.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #40 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:05:06 PM »

dcharlie is shitting on a ps3 title i am

shocked.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #41 on:** February 13, 2009, 09:30:47 PM »

I can and will ignore Flower

Draft · « **Reply #42 on:** February 13, 2009, 09:31:01 PM »

Quote from: Ninja on February 13, 2009, 07:24:29 PM

But flower is something new and r-type is a remake of something that's been released in about 100 versions.

Yes, but it's the 101th release of a game.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #43 on:** February 13, 2009, 09:41:20 PM »

I succumbed.

Not much of a "game" but a hell of a lot better than Flow, that's for sure. I don't know if it's really worth the 10 bucks but then again there's a lot of shit on XBL that isn't worth the money either.

Bebpo · « **Reply #44 on:** February 13, 2009, 10:03:34 PM »

I just like it because it again shows art >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology.

The windmill level looks incredible with the changing time of day. The colors are just wowowow. I wish I could walk through fields like these in Fable or FFXIII or Gears of War 3: Color Time.

Mrbob · « **Reply #45 on:** February 13, 2009, 10:54:39 PM »

Was going to pass, but now that I see DCharlie doesn't want anyone buying this game at $9.99 I think I will pick it up tommorrow.

demi · « **Reply #46 on:** February 13, 2009, 10:56:18 PM »

uh oh guys, we have a rebel on our hands

MCD · « **Reply #47 on:** February 13, 2009, 11:00:37 PM »

Mrbob, reported for sexual harassment.

demi · « **Reply #48 on:** February 13, 2009, 11:02:57 PM »

WHAT A FUCKING BADASS HE IS

rubber feathers · « **Reply #49 on:** February 14, 2009, 01:08:27 AM »

Come on dc, Flower's a really unique and great experience. It's a hell of a lot better than 90% of the stuff on downloadable services, that's for sure.

Also, I'm pretty sure that for the most part, the people complaining about R-type's pricing aren't the same people buying Flower.

Third · « **Reply #50 on:** February 14, 2009, 10:39:49 AM »

If this isn't a game, then REZ isn't one either.

Third · « **Reply #51 on:** February 14, 2009, 10:55:50 AM »

So a game is a only game when you can die in it?

STRANGE

Third · « **Reply #52 on:** February 14, 2009, 11:18:20 AM »

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #53 on:** February 14, 2009, 11:24:00 AM »

already has trophies

owned

Third · « **Reply #54 on:** February 14, 2009, 11:39:28 AM »

Well, whatever. To me all games are an "experience". Flower isn't a traditional game, but that doesn't mean it's not a game.

I guess it's different for everyone.

cool breeze · « **Reply #55 on:** February 14, 2009, 11:43:40 AM »

while talking about if it's a game or not is confusing, for me, I think that including those secret flowers makes it more of a game than what was normally called a non-game in the past. Some of them are straight forward, others require you to explore or solve a puzzle in the world.

Bebpo · « **Reply #56 on:** February 14, 2009, 12:39:41 PM »

I just did the night stage and that was amazing.

Arguing about whether it's a game or non-game and worth $10 compared to $15 for r-type is silly. A movie ticket costs $10 does that somehow mean people can't complain about r-type costing $15? There's really no connection.

Flower is an experience. Whether it's a game or a painting or a movie or whatever doesn't matter. All that matters is if the experience is worth the asking price ($10). That has no relation to the pricing of other experiences. Everything has to earn their price. I mean a lot of $60 retail games are 6 hours of gameplay and then you never touch them again.

Bebpo · « **Reply #57 on:** February 14, 2009, 01:13:13 PM »

Ok beat it. I actually found the 3rd to last stage the most impressive artistically. The last stage was good but it was too long. I liked the lengths of the other stages.

Also I am terrrrrrible at this game. I only got 1 trophy and my 2nd to last flower is limp and dead even though I beat the level. lol, I'll probably replay it eventually.

Rman · « **Reply #58 on:** February 14, 2009, 01:24:33 PM »

Same here. Only one trophy and flowers are limp.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #59 on:** February 14, 2009, 01:24:59 PM »

Looks awesome. Would buy if i had some $ to spare.

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Author Topic: C'mon, EB, don't ignore Flower (Read 4642 times)