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Ecrofirt

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Man, why is there no Friday The 13th DVD pack?
« on: February 16, 2009, 01:35:43 AM »
I understand that the series is split between Paramount and New Line, but fuck. Just release a pack with the Paramount films and another with the New Line films. Shit, I'd only get the Paramount ones anyway.
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Re: Man, why is there no Friday The 13th DVD pack?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2009, 01:36:29 AM »
There was one a few years back, but like you said, it was missing the last few movies.
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Re: Man, why is there no Friday The 13th DVD pack?
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2009, 01:37:44 AM »
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Re: Man, why is there no Friday The 13th DVD pack?
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2009, 01:42:43 AM »
Shit, that's exactly what I'm talking about. I searched Amazon and everything. I must be distinguished mentally-challenged.
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Re: Man, why is there no Friday The 13th DVD pack?
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2009, 01:56:49 AM »
Aw poop, it looks like this is a crappy boxset.
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Re: Man, why is there no Friday The 13th DVD pack?
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2009, 02:40:18 AM »
yeah to my understanding it's not that well done.

perhaps a bootleg somewhere does the series justice
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Re: Man, why is there no Friday The 13th DVD pack?
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2009, 02:45:47 AM »
They just announced a Blu Ray pack that's supposed to be coming out at some point this year. It's supposed to contain parts 1-8 but no word yet as to wether or not they're uncut.
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Re: Man, why is there no Friday The 13th DVD pack?
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2009, 02:46:21 AM »
I've seen that set really cheap locally.  Like 30 bucks cheap.  It might not be bad for that price.  Of course, I haven't seen it in like 2 years, though.
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Re: Man, why is there no Friday The 13th DVD pack?
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2009, 12:47:52 PM »
Come to think of it -- how does Jason end up on a cruise ship to Manhattan?  And who takes a cruise ship to NYC?

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Re: Man, why is there no Friday The 13th DVD pack?
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2009, 12:50:49 PM »
Come to think of it -- how does Jason end up on a cruise ship to Manhattan?  And who takes a cruise ship to NYC?

Um, I haven't seen it in forever, but IIRC, like 2/3-3/4th of the movie takes place on the boat to Manhattan.  And as you'd expect, it's some sort of retreat or some junk for troubled teenagers that need to get murdered.
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Re: Man, why is there no Friday The 13th DVD pack?
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2009, 08:44:09 PM »
What TVC said.

The slick remake is slick, but I will say this - it has easily the hottest naked piece of coed slaughter meat ever seen in a Friday or mainstream slasher flick.  Nudity was much appreciated, but at first I was a bit sour on some of the girls' boob jobs, but then Michael Bay delivered with a broad that was made for nudity and sex scenes.
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2009, 11:28:37 PM »
But Jason hangs out in a lake.  How does he get from the lake to the ocean where a cruise ship might be?  I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but I'm just curious how it happened.

Willco - how does it compare to the Texas Chainsaw and Halloween remakes?

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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2009, 11:29:53 PM »
The loose explanation is that the lake is somehow connected to the ocean.  The truth is that continuity and realism has never been the franchise's strong suit.  Hell, Alice is murdered in the beginning of Part 2.  Did Jason buy a plane ticket and track her down?
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Re: Man, why is there no Friday The 13th DVD pack?
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2009, 11:48:22 PM »
I feel that the Halloween remake was an abomination.  The Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake was totally unnecessary, but not bad.  It just exists.  Totally unmemorable.

This feels along the lines of the latter, but Friday the 13th was never the classic that Tobe Hooper's original was, so it's kind of fun to sit through a slick remix of the first four films that feels like the "Best of Jason Vorhees".  There's not really anything that's memorable; we will likely remember it in retrospect for being the first of the modern Friday films and not for anything of substance.

I do think that the flick has the best incarnation of Jason Vorhees - even better than Kane Hodder's unstoppable killing machine/zombie look.  Here, Derek Mears brings the unstoppable force of Kane Hodder, but makes the character far more menacing than he ever has been.  He's totally vicious.  I loved it.  It's a definite step up from the "dumb child" route they went with for Freddy vs Jason.

There is some real humor in this and the film benefits from knowing exactly what type of film it wants to be.  Unlike Halloween and Nightmare on Elm Street (up for a Bay remake), the Friday series has never really had any artistic credibility.  Sean Cunningham created it almost as an exploitation flick to pay his rent.  It's always been about whacking off hot coeds.  The tradition, I'm glad to say, is still alive in this one.

And I cannot stress this enough - Friday the 13th has probably the best female nudity in a mainstream horror film in decades. Michael Bay's casting process shines again!  And considering that the Friday series already had some of the best female nudity of its kind, this chick cemented the series status as the best of the litter when it comes to pure T&A.

Bringing the discussion back to Nispel's remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre - I did have a problem somewhat related to his remake of that flick.  Crystal Lake feels like an extension of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre set, as if this is just a lake a couple miles down the road from Leatherface's house.  Even the townspeople have the same ugly, 50s horn rimmed glasses and dirty costume design, as if rural America was stuck in a time warp.  The creepy, forest feel of Crystal Lake has been displaced by a dry, set extension of Nispel's other remake.  I missed the steam, the rain, the fog, etc.  I felt Freddy vs Jason did a far better job capturing the feel of the series. 

This is something I hope they improve with further sequels.

The real question is - where do we go from here?  It had been almost twenty years since we had a Friday film set in Camp Crystal Lake, so I feel there was a real desire to return the character to his roots.  It's virtually a remix of the first four films, and audience ate it up considering so much time had passed.  But I highly doubt that audience want to see a remix of the last four or five films, and that's when the question comes up - where do we go from here?

We already did space and Hell and comic book crossovers.  It's hard to imagine where else to take the character.
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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2009, 11:56:01 PM »
Are they going to get the exact same people to reboot Nightmare on Elm Street? :(

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Re: Man, why is there no Friday The 13th DVD pack?
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2009, 12:03:14 AM »
Yeah I agree with you on many of those points Willco. Even though I liked the remake (and to a lesser extent the Texas remake) it does feel intentionally blanded. While I really liked the new Jason, they removed the main thing that really separated the Friday series: atmosphere. No cabins, no chilling score, and even Dan Pearl's cinematography felt like an extension of what he did in the Texas remake. With Texas they removed the dinner sequece which was the staple of the series. It's like they're intentionally holding back because they feel it may be too "cheesy" for the modern age. I worry about the Nightmare remake since that series is loaded with style and personality.
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Re: Man, why is there no Friday The 13th DVD pack?
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2009, 12:28:24 AM »
Are they going to get the exact same people to reboot Nightmare on Elm Street? :(

Yes, and Lindsey Lohan is set to star!

I wish we can salvage some of the audio from podcast that I recorded with Eric P, because we went over most of this stuff last night.

Actually, Enl, I'm one of the few that thinks Jablonsky's score is one of the few modern elements I liked.  He didn't overuse Harry Manfredini's trademark cue and gave Jason a real edge with the score.  That said, I agree that they really lost what the Friday series was about.  The films were cheesy, but camp is cheesy.  The old Paramount films really did feel and look like campfire stories recorded on VHS.  To this day, I prefer to watch the films on VHS rather than DVD.

By dressing the reboot up with a modern coat of veneer, and making the film look totally dry and dirty - it looses that atmosphere that made the films so enjoyable.

On the other hand, the concept of going away to summer camp (even day camp!) is kind of lost on a generation attached to Facebook and videogames.  Camp is dead.  Maybe the goofball mongoloid/serial killer, Jason Vorhees, is destined to fade into existence the same way.
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Re: Man, why is there no Friday The 13th DVD pack?
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2009, 12:31:28 PM »
Bringing the discussion back to Nispel's remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre - I did have a problem somewhat related to his remake of that flick.  Crystal Lake feels like an extension of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre set, as if this is just a lake a couple miles down the road from Leatherface's house.  Even the townspeople have the same ugly, 50s horn rimmed glasses and dirty costume design, as if rural America was stuck in a time warp.  The creepy, forest feel of Crystal Lake has been displaced by a dry, set extension of Nispel's other remake.  I missed the steam, the rain, the fog, etc.  I felt Freddy vs Jason did a far better job capturing the feel of the series. 

This is something I hope they improve with further sequels.

The real question is - where do we go from here?  It had been almost twenty years since we had a Friday film set in Camp Crystal Lake, so I feel there was a real desire to return the character to his roots.  It's virtually a remix of the first four films, and audience ate it up considering so much time had passed.  But I highly doubt that audience want to see a remix of the last four or five films, and that's when the question comes up - where do we go from here?
I agree on the look and the feel. That was my main concern when learning that Nispel was directing and Daniel Pearl was the director of photography. I'm hoping with the sequel they get another director who's willing to make it look more in line with Freddy vs. Jason's Camp Crystal Lake. It was filmed in Texas and you can tell. It looks nothing like New Jersey where it's supposed to take place.

The only logical way to go with the sequel is to continue Clay's story. I could see the sequel opening with him reliving the events and then awakening in a hospital. His sister is dead and no one believes his story of a hockey masked serial killer. Everyone thinks he did it. Clay is released due to lack of evidence since Jason is so good at covering his tracks. Clay heads back to Crystal Lake, this time ready for Jason.

They could loosely, and I mean very loosely, mimic parts of 5 and 6 while losing the undead Jason angle.

I'm looking forward to the DVD since it will have an alternate cut that excises Ms. Voorhees and the whole young Jason angle. The producers said it's almost a different movie due to the cuts that were made.
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