Let's talk about Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope (for xbox in japan lololol) OFFCIAL

[demi]

Not when The Last Remnant is the best RPG in the past few years

[BlueTsunami]

19:36 on the clock and still having fun

although i can't believe they decided to make edge go all emo. too many jrpgs do this shit.

at least in abyss luke went from douche -> emo -> decent guy

in this game you go from the cool guy that everyone heaps tons of praise on -> mega-emo -> ?

there better be a payoff for all of edge's sulking

I ended up skipping all the scenes, the moment Edge started to pout. Holy shit what horrible writing and scenario. I'd rather have overly positive Edge than ARGH WHY DID I, I FEEL SO BAD Edge.

[Bebpo]

Yeah, the emo stuff was terrible but the ridiculousness of the

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earth destruction

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before it was lollolol gold.  Almost as funny as the SO3 plot twist.

I'm on the next planet Roak, but not really feeling it right now because it has a big ass overworld.  I saw a bunny though, so hopefully I'll get transportation soon.  Running around the overworld portions are the worst part of the game for sure.

[tiesto]

Face it, jrpg's are dead guys.

Evidence?

[BlueTsunami]

Yeah, the emo stuff was terrible but the ridiculousness of the

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earth destruction

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before it was lollolol gold.  Almost as funny as the SO3 plot twist.

I'm on the next planet Roak, but not really feeling it right now because it has a big ass overworld.  I saw a bunny though, so hopefully I'll get transportation soon.  Running around the overworld portions are the worst part of the game for sure.

I was actually laughing at Edge

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Killing billions of people

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As you said, that is pretty ridiculous He's a naive little dummy for doing what he did.

[Human Snorenado]

19:36 on the clock and still having fun

although i can't believe they decided to make edge go all emo. too many jrpgs do this shit.

at least in abyss luke went from douche -> emo -> decent guy

in this game you go from the cool guy that everyone heaps tons of praise on -> mega-emo -> ?

there better be a payoff for all of edge's sulking

How can there be, he's EDGE MAVERICK.

[Human Snorenado]

Face it, jrpg's are dead guys.

Evidence?

When was the last jrpg that you said, "wow, that really moves the genre forward?" 

I'll go ahead and answer for you.  It was Dragon Quarter, and the stupid weeaboos in Japan hated it so much that the devs had to APOLOGIZE for it.  That's about all you need to know about jrpgs.  They can be fun, but it's largely the same shit over and over again.

[BlueTsunami]

Triumph

Yep, I agree. Dragon Quarter tried to do something fresh and didn't allow the fanbase to bring it down by including wacky jappy shit. As you said though, they got kicked in the nuts by the niche that apparently digs the series. They want a Capcom Final Fantasy 

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah.  I mean, it's one thing to like jrpgs- I myself do from time to time.  But let's not pretend that they're some magically delicious uber genre or something- they've got their drawbacks just like everything else from fps to sports games to all of the alleged "games" on the wii.

[tiesto]

I don't think 'not advancing' is necessarily the same thing as 'dead', though... and hey some of us like traditional turn-based gameplay

Actually, The World Ends With You was pretty innovative for an RPG and that was more recent.

[Human Snorenado]

Didn't play TWEWY, although I heard it was at least trying something new.  The premise (be cool and admired!) just kind of never clicked with me.  That and I got rid of my ds after playing through EO2.

I've got no qualms with liking traditional turn based gameplay- I'm fine with it.  I just wish more games would utilize that system and take out the shit I *don't* like about jrpgs- emo protagonists, annoying children, loli crap, cliche smothered stories that are poorly written, etc.  The mechanics are the least objectionable thing, really.

[Himu]

I thought Persona 3/4 were something new. TWEWY certainly wasn't my thing but I can admit it was something new. Valkyrie Profile 2 and Dragon Quarter were mos def something new. Even FFXII was something new despite being total dog shit.

My problem with jrpgs isn't the gameplay. I tend to like the gameplay quite a bit. It's the narratives, stories, and shit that I've experienced so much in the past 10 years. I can only IMAGINE what it's like for people like triumph who've been playing for like 20.

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah.  P3-4 really weren't anything NEW per se, though- it was just taking two different games and mashin' em up.  Fortunately they were two tastes that went great together.

As far as jrpg burnout... yeah, it's pretty bad.  I've been playing jrpgs since the original Dragon Warrior and FF back on the NES, and soon after got into the Phantasy Star series.  Those games actually BENEFITED from not being able to cram a bunch of shitty exposition into 'em in my opinion.  The bloat started in the 16 bit era just a bit, got noticeably bad in the 64 bit era (FF7 anyone?) and got out of control last gen.  Now even though the mechanics are like comfort food to me, trying to wade through 40+ hours of the same terrible story over and over again in a new skin is enough to make me want to pound my testicles with a hammer.

Having said all of that, I still really want to play Tales of Vesperia.  I'm sick in the head. 

[Himu]

Well, the good thing about Vesperia is that it takes genre cliches and freshens them up. You know how the main characters in these games are pussies who let bad guys go all the time? Not Vesperia's! And then there's always the OBVIOUS love romance between the main character and some goodie goodie chick. Not in Vesperia! They've got more of a brother - sister relationship than a I want to fuck your brains relationship. On top of this, the maid lead female probably gets raped by a lesbian in your party repeatedly!

[Jansen]

I was actually laughing at Edge

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Killing billions of people

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As you said, that is pretty ridiculous He's a naive little dummy for doing what he did.

i've been loling at all the cutscenes so far. they're just so bad

during edge's tantrum i was really hoping someone would walk up and smack the shit out of him

[MCD]

I love the 3rd planet graphics/look but my god, the fortress before it was the dumbest fucking thing ever, what's the point of making it this long, ugly and boring for fucks sake.

[MCD]

this story is getting dumber by every planet.

[MCD]

You know, that scene in the 3rd planet could have been cool if they done it mass effect style, as in choices.

now I'm stuck with emo Edge.

[BlueTsunami]

Fortunately the phase goes by relatively quickly but its like a Tornado of emo'ness that wreaks havoc on ones enjoyment of the game.

[treythemovie]

Man I can't believe you guys are still playing this. I gave up after the plot-twist/emo fest

[MCD]

I bought it for full price, might as well play it to the end.

[BlueTsunami]

Oh.my.God. The way Edge sounds when he's choking up. Holy shit the Voice Acting. THE VOICE ACTING

[Sho Nuff]

Oh.my.God. The way Edge sounds when he's choking up. Holy shit the Voice Acting. THE VOICE ACTING

I want a youtube of the choking up section

[Jansen]

i think the dungeons are fine. they're not great but they're not horrible either.

and wide open fields are preferable to corridor shit like in every bioware game. they should've added more vegetation to them tho

how long does emo edge last? i might have to start skipping cutscenes if it's a long time

[TVC15]

If the game does not grab me by the end of the night, I'm done with it and sending it to demi.  I'm only at the end of the first planet, but so far I think this is the worst Tri-Ace beginning of a game, including both VP1 and SO3.

[cool breeze]

Well, the good thing about Vesperia is that it takes genre cliches and freshens them up. You know how the main characters in these games are pussies who let bad guys go all the time? Not Vesperia's! And then there's always the OBVIOUS love romance between the main character and some goodie goodie chick. Not in Vesperia! They've got more of a brother - sister relationship than a I want to fuck your brains relationship. On top of this, the maid lead female probably gets raped by a lesbian in your party repeatedly!

Vesperia still does have it's fair share of lame jrpg cliches (including campfire scenes.)

And probably my favorite thing about most modern jrpg is that the majority don't have random battles anymore. 

[pilonv1]

Oh.my.God. The way Edge sounds when he's choking up. Holy shit the Voice Acting. THE VOICE ACTING

how does it rate with the dinner dance

[tiesto]

If the game does not grab me by the end of the night, I'm done with it and sending it to demi.  I'm only at the end of the first planet, but so far I think this is the worst Tri-Ace beginning of a game, including both VP1 and SO3.

Really? Even worse than the awkward trudge through the dark forest in IU?

[MCD]

Emo Edge cutscenes makes me want to shoot my dick.

[Great Rumbler]

Oh.my.God. The way Edge sounds when he's choking up. Holy shit the Voice Acting. THE VOICE ACTING

how does it rate with the dinner dance

Not quite as bad, but the cutscenes with Welch certainly are.

[BlueTsunami]

If the game does not grab me by the end of the night, I'm done with it and sending it to demi.  I'm only at the end of the first planet, but so far I think this is the worst Tri-Ace beginning of a game, including both VP1 and SO3.

The story is starting to get a little more interesting. By the 3rd planet, there's big tittie characters that you'll meet one of them has a bug up her ass and shits on the happy go lucky group (also bitches out Edge). It was strangely satisfying. The battle system doesn't really get as awesome until you accumulate a bunch of battle skills (like I am right now).

[MCD]

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So basically Reimi can't get aids?

and now she's all emo, we have 2 emo fucks.

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[BlueTsunami]

Synthesis opens up an assload of choices. Right when Synthesis is available, I can create an armlet that has like 50% FOL increase after battle (Armlet + 2 Food Dishes that imbue 25% Fol). You can literally synthesize any Weapon/Armor/Accessory with anything in your inventory.

[demi]

You should send it to me, I would be willing to give a blowjob in return. Slime would flail his hands and run into a wall

[Jansen]

you know it'll be 30 bucks in less then a month

[TVC15]

You should send it to me, I would be willing to give a blowjob in return. Slime would flail his hands and run into a wall

Whatever.  I've heard from certain sources that a slime appears frequents Village People shows, or more accurately, the bathroom at Village People shows.  And he wears only pleather hot pants.

[demi]

Well I guess I can't beat that

[TVC15]

You know what I can beat?  My cock, whenever Welch is on screen.

[BlueTsunami]

I've never truly been creeped out by suggestive scenes in RPGs but the Merracle / Edge scene where she gets all giddy. Wow.

[TVC15]

Oh, I remember the original reason I responded to this thread again.  After last night, I'm kind of enjoying the game.  The gameplay is acceptable and the combat is kinda fun, even if it's shallow, and there's ample customization to be had, and I'm actually kind of enjoying the presentation and VA and story in a so bad it's good kinda way.  We'll see how long this stays on my now playing list.

[Jansen]

i cant believe meracle is supposed to be 16...

[tiesto]

Oh, I remember the original reason I responded to this thread again.  After last night, I'm kind of enjoying the game.  The gameplay is acceptable and the combat is kinda fun, even if it's shallow, and there's ample customization to be had, and I'm actually kind of enjoying the presentation and VA and story in a so bad it's good kinda way.  We'll see how long this stays on my now playing list.

TVC like a non VP tri-Ace game?  That's almost as shocking as the fact that I actually got a phone # at a bar last week.

[MCD]

Holy fuck at the Phantoms cutscene in disc 2.

LONG CUTSCENE IS LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG

[Greatness Gone]

I'm actually playing this stuff again. I like how when you skip a cutscene, it gives you a little description of what happened. All games need to do this.

[Great Rumbler]

Holy fuck at the Phantoms cutscene in disc 2.

LONG CUTSCENE IS LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG

 

[BlueTsunami]

I've skipped a lot of the latter scenes. Its like, you get the gist of it a minute in. Its funny, you skip the scene and it tells you about what you just watched and yet, you know the scene probably goes on for ten fucking minutes.

But anyways, Bonus Dungeons unf unf unf. I posted it on GAF but I equipped all my characters with +20% Experience factors on ever piece of gear that can hold it. I was getting 2.3 Million experience from a particular enemy Two of my characters are already at lvl200

[tiesto]

I am about to leave

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50's Earth

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now.. still in love with the game.

[Great Rumbler]

I am about to leave

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50's Earth

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now.. still in love with the game.

That's about where it all goes to hell and, five hours of of cutscenes later, you're left wondering what the point is in subjecting yourself to more.

[MCD]

oh god, this stupid ant grigori beat my team, game tells me to change party then BOOM! game freeze.

SHIT SUX, 2 hours wasted on this shit.

[MCD]

Question for SO fegs: what's the best team to have? since this guy beat my ass i am thinking of changing big tits pinky magician with Sarah, i will need a handy healer for scum like him.

my current team: Edge, pink tits, eldarian and giant robo guy.

[BlueTsunami]

You got everyone equipped with HP Boost? I did this for mostly melee characters and I can pretty much just spam specials at most of the bosses. At that stage, with HP Boost, you would have around 20,000 HP.

[MCD]

no, i only equipped it for pinky tits (her HP was low that's why i did it).

and i don't think i can go back now, might as well grind more.

the only way to beat the bastard is to blindside, sadly i figured it out way later.

[Bebpo]

I'm at the part (disc1, roak) where the theif dude stole the medicine and I run off looking for him.  The people in front of the collesium tell me he's in the collesium, and they tell me to sign up if I want to fight him.  But the main door won't let me in and it says I need to enter first or something and I don't know where I would be going to sign up?  I talked to the people standing around and none of them seem helpful.

[BlueTsunami]

I think talking to someone around that statue in the center of that particular area is what triggers the doors to be open. Its distinguished mentally-challenged, I got hung up on that part too.

[MCD]

there is an old lady near the statue, i think i talked to her to let me in the distinguished mentally-challenged colosseum.

btw, I think i am in the final area and there are 3 save points here, that Jinko dude was lying or what?

[BlueTsunami]

there is an old lady near the statue, i think i talked to her to let me in the distinguished mentally-challenged colosseum.

btw, I think i am in the final area and there are 3 save points here, that Jinko dude was lying or what?

Where are you exactly? (like planet wise)

[MCD]

the place after EN-II.

Nos something.

[BlueTsunami]

the place after EN-II.

Nos something.

Yep, your at the end area. That dungeon is fairly long and there's one area where you may get stuck (Room with a mirror and statue, make sure to look at the statue, then look at the mirror with the statue being reflected).

End boss is a HUGE HP sink, so be prepared for that.

[MCD]

I hope level 60 is enough for that, i just want to end this and move on to another game.

[tiesto]

Heh, I just got past the part where Bebpo is. I really wish I had a few more days to just sit down and concentrate on this game instead of playing in short spurts.