Let's talk about Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope (for xbox in japan lololol) OFFCIAL

[BlueTsunami]

Like stated in the Evilbore podcast about people maxing shit out having assburgers, I think I've gone too far. I've spent a good couple of hours raising funds and buying a bunch of tri-Emblems (the real ones) from the 2nd Bonus Dungeon. Lots of grinding as far as the money went but I came back with an assload of kickass gear (and synth material in the form of tri-Emblems)

[MCD]

I hope level 60 is enough for that, i just want to end this and move on to another game.

scratch that, i'm at level 73 now woot.

[tiesto]

Like stated in the Evilbore podcast about people maxing shit out having assburgers, I think I've gone too far. I've spent a good couple of hours raising funds and buying a bunch of tri-Emblems (the real ones) from the 2nd Bonus Dungeon. Lots of grinding as far as the money went but I came back with an assload of kickass gear (and synth material in the form of tri-Emblems)

I think it's more a case of OCD than aspergers...

[Great Rumbler]

So is there a lot of sci-fi in this game, or does it quickly become generic loli fantasy like the last game?

There's a lot more scifi than any other Star Ocean game. I'd say that it's about average Star Trek episode level. As in: planet-hopping with your ship, underdeveloped worlds, other space-faring races, a few developed worlds, and some alternate realities.

[demi]

So is there a lot of sci-fi in this game, or does it quickly become generic loli fantasy like the last game?

So is there a lot of sci-fi in this game, or does it quickly become generic loli fantasy like the last game?

There's a lot more scifi than any other Star Ocean game. I'd say that it's about average Star Trek episode level. As in: planet-hopping with your ship, underdeveloped worlds, other space-faring races, a few developed worlds, and some alternate realities.

Yeah, I loved the part in Star Trek where

[Great Rumbler]

So is there a lot of sci-fi in this game, or does it quickly become generic loli fantasy like the last game?

So is there a lot of sci-fi in this game, or does it quickly become generic loli fantasy like the last game?

There's a lot more scifi than any other Star Ocean game. I'd say that it's about average Star Trek episode level. As in: planet-hopping with your ship, underdeveloped worlds, other space-faring races, a few developed worlds, and some alternate realities.

Yeah, I loved the part in Star Trek where

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There were Star Trek episodes that had the crew interacting with underdeveloped planets and races. There were Star Trek episodes where they interacted with other space-faring races. There were Star Trek episodes where they went to alternate realities. On AVERAGE the amount of scif-ness in Star Ocean 4 is similar to the average Star Trek episode's amount of scifi-ness.

Learn to comprehend what you read, dorkus.

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But seriously:

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[demi]

Well of course it would appeal to you

[TVC15]

Are you calling Wesley Crusher a loli?

[MCD]

Beat the game, I swear Edge Level 80 skill (Edge skill something) was a godsend, the final boss is really a fucking HP whore, though at level 80 i had no problem other than his HP.

as for the whole game, 5/10.

shit voice acting, shit story, shit characters, outdated gameplay (long ass dungeons and fields everywhere for no goddamn reason , few save points and just not fucking fun), weak battle system (can't target, few learned skills, distinguished mentally-challenged rush mode, distinguished mentally-challenged beatwhatever system) and whatever i missed.

tl;dr buy Lost Odyssey or/and Vesperia instead of this Tri-Ace bullshit or heck just buy Star Ocean 2 PSP if you really need your Star Ocean fix.

[Great Rumbler]

Well of course it would appeal to you

I dumped it already. Back to Drakensang for me.

Are you calling Wesley Crusher a loli?

No, but he is an annoying kid character that serves little useful purpose.

[MCD]

ALSO TOO MANY SECRET ACHIEVEMENTS WHY DO YOU HATE YOUR COSTUMERS SO MUCH YOU BASTARDS

[TVC15]

The difference is I can't jerk off to Crusher.

[Bebpo]

That was the weirdest and most unexpected disc change ever.  Just walking around the overworld and bit doing nothing really and suddenly I'm at disc 2!

[BlueTsunami]

I had the same reaction. If your just in it to complete it, you won't have to worry about disk changing (back and forth between 2 and 3). But Post game shit and when you hit the final planet (and need to go back to Roak), you'll need to change the disk.

[Jansen]

my god the folks responsible for the cutscenes in this game should be fucking ashamed of themselves

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

they're supposed to be badasses saving your bacon but the scene falls so flat

god the laser sound effects are so fucking lame

[BlueTsunami]

I posted this in the GAF thread but I had gotten to the last boss in the 2nd Bonus Dungeon and got knocked the fuck out. Cheapest boss ever. The whole fight involves you res'ing you characters and hopping they can take a bite out of her. I wasn't ready for it either (I was planning in returning topside, making some better armor and weapons with shit I had acquired, then returning). The whole dungeon setup and progression fucking sucks (so much so that I never want to return to that repetitive hellhole).

If tri-Ace really want to pull a dungeon like that (randomly generated, survival based and getting crazy loot), do it like Lufia 2. That post game dungeon fucking ROCKED and didn't have gimmicky ways to progress through each level (just fucking survive and find the warp point).

[Jansen]

where are the bonus dungeons? are they hard to find?

and even though most of this game is laughably bad (graphics, cutscenes, sound design) i still find the exploration, dungeons, and battle system to be enjoyable

although i do like the cutscenes. in the they're so bad they're amusing kind of way

[BlueTsunami]

You do have to do a bit of looking to find the first one (which when completed will allow you to go to a certain spot to get into the second one). You first need to beat the game, save after the credits then reload that save. It'll throw you at the last save point with a warp point to the right and a Dragon Boss to the Left (that will give you a certain item). Your then allowed to go hog wild from there.

The bosses in the Bonus Dungeons are actually fun and challenging. The regular enemies are ridiculously hard at first, so a sense of accomplishment is actually felt when your able to wipe them out with your newly created gear. There's also an area, with a bit of grinding and IC'ing EXP factors on your equipment will allow you to level up all of your characters to the max level (relatively easily).

The first dungeon is actually labyrinthine in its setup, so its not bad at all. Its the second one that's a total pain in the dick. If you actually pursue both of them, you'll find out why.

[Junpei the Tracer!]

So yeah, I'm playing this now. I really like it.

[tiesto]

It's a fucking great game if you can get over the lack of save points and shitty VA.

[Junpei the Tracer!]

I really like Welch. She's funny.

[demi]

Creepy ass mook

[Purple Filth]

seems it didnt sell so well in the US for the recent NPD.

maybe next month?

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[Junpei the Tracer!]

Creepy ass mook

  Shame it didn't even chart.

[Jansen]

purple filth keep that shit in the npd thread.

besides nobody in their right mind thought it would sell well.

[Bebpo]

besides nobody in their right mind thought it would sell well.

Wait, why not?  SO3 is one of the best selling j-rpgs of the last ten years in the US.  X360 owners buy a shitload of games.  SO4 is scifi, non-cellshaded and has SquareEnix name on it.  I figured it was a lock for 500k-1 million.

[Purple Filth]

I thought it would have done decent, but anyway sorry for the NPD insert.


now this

[youtube=560,345]mlN4E-1I80Q[/youtube]

 
:gerstmann

ok....

the voices can be turned off right?

[Jansen]

besides nobody in their right mind thought it would sell well.

Wait, why not?  SO3 is one of the best selling j-rpgs of the last ten years in the US.  X360 owners buy a shitload of games.  SO4 is scifi, non-cellshaded and has SquareEnix name on it.  I figured it was a lock for 500k-1 million.

because i'm not a moron that's why. i was just giving others the benefit of the doubt. i guess i shouldn't have.

the voices can be turned off right?

only the battle voices can be disabled. i turned sarah's and lym's off immediately

btw is nox the last planet? for the life of me i can't figure out why this game took 3 discs. there is hardly any cgi and not that many locations...

[TVC15]

I thought it would have done decent, but anyway sorry for the NPD insert.


now this

[youtube=560,345]mlN4E-1I80Q[/youtube]

 
:gerstmann

ok....

the voices can be turned off right?

Well, this is where I quit playing.  That was astonishing.

[recursivelyenumerable]

I like that scene because it reminds me of my life.

[demi]

Well, this is where I quit playing.  That was astonishing.

You know the rules, send it to me

[Jansen]

just skip the cutscenes. you won't be missing much and you get a nice little synopsis when you skip'em telling you what happened

[Purple Filth]

just skip the cutscenes. you won't be missing much and you get a nice little synopsis when you skip'em telling you what happened

a small sacrifice i suppose.

oh well

[Jansen]

there are worse cutscenes in this game. you should see one of the spaces battles with explosions straight out of a nintendo 64 game

a small sacrifice i suppose.

oh well

personally i don't skip them. most of them are so ridiculously bad they amuse me

[cool breeze]

[youtube=560,345]XlHZrBUimuY[/youtube]

tri-ace managed to top that with that flying thing

[Jansen]

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

 wow look at them explosions!

[GilloD]

  That flying lady reminded me of that episode of Ren & Stimpy when they make their own cartoon

"I'm ready to throw up now, Poopy"

[Sho Nuff]

That flying lady reminded me of that episode of Ren & Stimpy when they make their own cartoon

"I'm ready to throw up now, Poopy"

 

[recursivelyenumerable]

that space battle looks pretty cool to me.  i guess it is stylized rather than realistic or whatever, but i don't understand why someone would care about realistic explosions.  i'd rather see pretty colored lights.

[Jansen]

tri-ace must of been going for a retro ala n64 era style then

[recursivelyenumerable]

I'd actually seen this scene on Youtube before, and didn't even notice the explosions being retro or whatever.  I just thought ooh pretty colors.

[Trent Dole]

Seeing the cutscenes alone is enough to keep me away from this game. Jesus fuck. 

[BlueTsunami]

I thought it would have done decent, but anyway sorry for the NPD insert.


now this

[youtube=560,345]mlN4E-1I80Q[/youtube]

 
:gerstmann

ok....

the voices can be turned off right?

This shit is so inspiring

[Junpei the Tracer!]

I shouldn't have watched the video, I got spoiled on something. However, that cutscene wasnt that bad.

[Great Rumbler]

I played through about 14 hours of Star Ocean 4 over the course of slightly less than a week. I made it to the part where your party has to go find the kidnapped Sarah.

I haven't played it since.

[TVC15]

I like that scene because it reminds me of my life.

sweet fancy moses

[recursivelyenumerable]

I didn't mean that in a romantic way, or anything.

[tiesto]

The last one did really good numbers, but really jrpgs are a dying genre due to them being jrpgs.

I think it's more due to Americans shit taste...

[demi]

Yes, I'm sure that's it

[Sho Nuff]

The "private actions" featuring the cat girl are really, really creepy

[Junpei the Tracer!]

You guys standards are too high.

[Great Rumbler]

You guys standards are too high.

I just want voice acting that doesn't make my ears bleed and dialogue that doesn't make my want to stab my eyes out. I figure that's a fairly low standard.

[GilloD]

[youtube=560,345]5tmAE6e6yVc[/youtube]

  It's like exactly the same. Oh god, to think that I almost bought this.

[demi]

You guys standards are too high.

Who the fuck are you

[BlueTsunami]

The "private actions" featuring the cat girl are really, really creepy

There's one where a threesome between Catgirl, Reimi and Edge is joked about. Its so hot.

[TVC15]

Buzz Lightyear joined my party last night.  And the dying soundbyte from one of the dragon people is something like "POSSIBLE FAILURE."  This is like the worst localization since Robo Trek on SNES.

[demi]

RoboTrek is awesome wowsome

[Lafiel]

I thought it would have done decent, but anyway sorry for the NPD insert.


now this

[youtube=560,345]mlN4E-1I80Q[/youtube]

 
:gerstmann

ok....

the voices can be turned off right?

That video actually makes me want to play the game, it's so bad and chessy, that it's good.

[Sho Nuff]

It's like exactly the same. Oh god, to think that I almost bought this.

"Do you want to pick my nose, Poopy?"

Oh my god laughing so hard can't breathe

[duckman2000]

I don't get how they can actually get the voice acting to be that bad. Are they trying to emulate the Japanese voices, or something? I really don't get it. Even shit VA directors working on a dime would have it in them to get something better even out of a shit group of voice "talent."