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Barry Egan

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« Reply #240 on: March 06, 2009, 03:59:39 PM »
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The sex scene aboard the good airship Archie is to the Leonard Cohen version of the song "Hallelujah."

Wait, did they use the original version from Various Positions?  That's actually kinda neat.  It fits too.

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No, it doesn't. It's fucking bad. BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD. Honestly, if that scene wasn't in the film or handled differently, the film would have been much better.

I'm not 100% sure if it was the Cohen version but a friend of mine said yes, so don't take my word for it. I was too distracted to give a shit.

I thought it was pretty funny

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« Reply #241 on: March 06, 2009, 04:02:09 PM »
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The sex scene aboard the good airship Archie is to the Leonard Cohen version of the song "Hallelujah."

Wait, did they use the original version from Various Positions?  That's actually kinda neat.  It fits too.

original version :bow2
Jeff Buckley version :piss2

No, it doesn't. It's fucking bad. BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD. Honestly, if that scene wasn't in the film or handled differently, the film would have been much better.

I'm not 100% sure if it was the Cohen version but a friend of mine said yes, so don't take my word for it. I was too distracted to give a shit.

I thought it was pretty funny

It was funny, but it really came at an inopportune time in the film. It really doesn't help when you make two people who just rescued a bunch of people out of a burning building dramatically into a joke, especially when they can't act anyways.
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« Reply #242 on: March 06, 2009, 04:10:10 PM »
I see where you're coming from, but I'm pretty sure the entire idea is that these people are not superheros, they're weirdo fetishists who use heroism as a means of getting off.  All the 'drama' in this film is a running gag. 

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« Reply #243 on: March 06, 2009, 04:16:38 PM »
Let me ask anyone who has seen it: how do they do with the

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specifically the

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That was probably my favorite scene in the graphic novel.

i had some time to let the movie sink in and this segment lost a lot of its depth in the movie. Changes:

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R. is depicted more as a 'regular' psychopath in the movie, with the extra gore being kind of unneeded. You'll see what I mean when you see the film

I was also disappointed to see my favorite line from the entire novel cut: 'the light is taking me to pieces'. the the whole segment was taken almost literally from the book, but that final line wasn't there. Don't understand

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« Reply #244 on: March 06, 2009, 04:21:50 PM »
what scene is that line from?

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« Reply #246 on: March 06, 2009, 04:26:13 PM »


i had some time to let the movie sink in and this segment lost a lot of its depth in the movie. Changes:

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having not seen the movie, this is the change which annoyed me the most
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« Reply #247 on: March 06, 2009, 04:38:23 PM »
Only by the power of an overrated, hack commercial director could this fail to satisfy as either fan service or as a flick, but by god Zach Snyder succeeds!

Just got back a bit ago from the noon showing.  Where to begin... you know, I think the saddest part out of all of this is that going in, I was convinced that there was no way Watchmen could ever work as a movie, three hours or otherwise.  I have to say, for all of the massive fail in the movie (and there's a lot, and I'll get to it all in a minute) that I am now convinced someone with some semblance of skill behind the camera could have crafted a good to great film adaptation.  That person is not, sadly, Zach Snyder.

You can see the mark of a talented director in the performance of a cast- mediocre actors will turn in good performances under a good director, and bad actors will up their game to at least mediocre.  Good actors will turn in good performances under pretty much any circumstances- think Ewan McGregor in the craptastic SW prequels.  At least he was watchable.  Well, Watchmen suffers from much the same poor decision making and execution. 

Let's give some props where they're due- Billy Crudup and Jackie Earle Haley both are very good as Dr. Manhattan and Rorschach.  Some of the sequences were really good, like the opening credits and the Rorschach prison flashback.  Knowing how Snyder is a hyperactive distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, he showed admirable restraint (for him, anyway) in abusing the "omg cool slow down cam" trick.

That's about where the good stuff ends, unfortunately.  The rest of the cast sucks, other than the Comedian who isn't in the film enough to help out, really.  Especially bad is the doofus cast to play Niteowl II- I actively cringed every time I saw him on screen.  Malin Akerman is bad as Silk Spectre II, but she's the type of actress imo that probably could have turned in a better performance with better direction, and at least she got nekkid so she gets a thumbs in the middle I guess.  Ozy is... I can't decide if I'm indifferent towards the actor's performance or if I actively disliked it.  That's probably not what they were going for. 

The pacing was bad.  The choices for the soundtrack were laughably bad (the sex scene on Archie has already been discussed to death, but yes, it's THAT BAD) for the most part- I kind of liked the "Times They Are a Changin'" opening sequence, but other than that just plain ugh.  Sure it was cool seeing shots and going "oh shit I remember that from the comic" but that doesn't make this a good movie, or even good fan service.  Just a mess all around, really.  The first, abortive attempt at fuckin' between Dan and Laurie really kind of captures the whole essence of the movie- not satisfying for anyone who's being honest with themselves, really.

If I was giving this a star rating, I'd give it 1 and 1/2 stars out of 4.  The extra half is for Crudup and Haley's performances and the fan service, and I guess for Akerman gettin' nekkid so much.  Not a good movie, and Zach Snyder is now 0 for 3- don't listen to dolts like Federwang who just WANT to like shit without thinking about it critically- this movie and Snyder are both failures. 

Like I said at the beginning of this rant, though, there was POTENTIAL in there.  I could see how a 3 1/2 hour screen version of this could work, so bully for Snyder for getting that much right I guess.  Perhaps the Director's Cut might fix a few things, but there's no fixing bad directing and acting, so I'm kind of at a loss to see how more fan service is gonna improve this overall.  A Kingdom of Heaven scenario this will not be, I'm afraid.

So yeah, BAD MOVIE, BAD FAN SERVICE.

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« Reply #248 on: March 06, 2009, 05:10:30 PM »
I got slammed for wanting to like movies? Oh geez, Triumph. :smug
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« Reply #249 on: March 06, 2009, 05:26:33 PM »
For what it's worth: Saw it at midnight last night, thought it was awesome. So much closer to the comic than I ever thought a Watchmen movie would ever be. My girlfriend never read it, she loved it too, wants to see it again.

I know the reviews are mixed, but keep in mind people: the opinion of Watchmen the graphic novel is mixed. It's not for everyone. The movie is the same, for many of the same reasons.

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« Reply #250 on: March 06, 2009, 05:26:40 PM »
I bet the Directors Cut will be so awesome that heads will explode.
A bad movie tends to be a bad movie whether it is 2 hours 45 min or 3 hours 10 min (the dc). Not everyone is a Ridley Scott.

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« Reply #251 on: March 06, 2009, 05:29:43 PM »


i had some time to let the movie sink in and this segment lost a lot of its depth in the movie. Changes:

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having not seen the movie, this is the change which annoyed me the most

The problem is too many movies have ripped that part of the comic off. The change is mostly cosmetic.

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« Reply #252 on: March 06, 2009, 05:32:55 PM »
i liked dawn of the dead because it was actually scary and it had an awesome downer ending during the credits, plus best use of a johnny cash tune ever

i liked 300 as a modern-day update of 50s gladiator and harryhausen flicks, and also because i wasn't looking for any hidden/overt political meanings - just outlandish asskickings, which it had by the score

snyder's no genius, but he has entertained me so far

that said, i doubt even the most talented film crew on earth could make a truly outstanding watchmen film, even given three hours

this should have been an hbo series



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« Reply #253 on: March 06, 2009, 05:33:36 PM »
I am about to see it but that change sounds like OMGZ GORE just for gore's sake.

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« Reply #254 on: March 06, 2009, 05:33:55 PM »
Cute to see certain audiences still react so out of control towards certain type of sex scenes in R Rated movies. History of Violence was the same crap.

You kind get the feeling that the movie is being seen by kids with INTERNET access.

Seriously. I'd throw in the weird overreactions to the violence - grow up, you pussies.

And some of the homophobes online have written reviews that make the movie out to be 2 hours of blue dong. I hardly noticed that, there was just as much blue dong as the comic.

Some of these little babies should bring their moms to cover their eyes during the naughty scary grown up stuff I guess.

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« Reply #255 on: March 06, 2009, 05:40:40 PM »
Ebert gave it four stars. So I guess I'm in.
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« Reply #256 on: March 06, 2009, 05:43:02 PM »
i liked dawn of the dead because it was actually scary and it had an awesome downer ending during the credits, plus best use of a johnny cash tune ever

i liked 300 as a modern-day update of 50s gladiator and harryhausen flicks, and also because i wasn't looking for any hidden/overt political meanings - just outlandish asskickings, which it had by the score

snyder's no genius, but he has entertained me so far

that said, i doubt even the most talented film crew on earth could make a truly outstanding watchmen film, even given three hours

this should have been an hbo series





The thing is, as an adaptation, it wasn't fucking bad. It was frame for shot most of the time. What really killed it is the fact there was absolutely no narrative structure, at least in terms of a film. Fuck, I still would have enjoyed it if it wasn't for atrocities like the sex scene or the random insertion of humor right before a serious scene where the Comedian fucking kills a pregnant woman.
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« Reply #257 on: March 06, 2009, 05:43:13 PM »
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The sex scene aboard the good airship Archie is to the Leonard Cohen version of the song "Hallelujah."

Wait, did they use the original version from Various Positions?  That's actually kinda neat.  It fits too.

original version :bow2
Jeff Buckley version :piss2

Holy shat, Recursive for Icon :bow
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« Reply #258 on: March 06, 2009, 05:45:55 PM »
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The sex scene aboard the good airship Archie is to the Leonard Cohen version of the song "Hallelujah."

Wait, did they use the original version from Various Positions?  That's actually kinda neat.  It fits too.

original version :bow2
Jeff Buckley version :piss2

Holy shat, Recursive for Icon :bow

I agree with this too, in terms of music quality. It's only the context I disagree with.
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« Reply #259 on: March 06, 2009, 05:50:28 PM »
I got slammed for wanting to like movies? Oh geez, Triumph. :smug

No, you got slammed for WANTING TO APOLOGIZE FOR UNTALENTED HACK ZACH SNYDER.  Or, TRYING TO RATIONALIZE LIKING BAD MOVIES. 

Don't get me wrong; I like plenty of bad movies, but I'm cognizant of the fact that what I am enjoying is, in fact, a BAD MOVIE BY A BAD DIRECTOR.  I don't say stuff like "ZACH SNYDER'S GOT SOME TALENT" when that is quite obviously not the case.
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« Reply #260 on: March 06, 2009, 06:18:23 PM »
Didn't care for the film much.  I think Snyder did a good job visually, but the source material was just...meh.

The sex scenes were gorgeous though.  Almost worth the price of admission.

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« Reply #261 on: March 06, 2009, 06:28:10 PM »
I really liked it. Didn't like the change with "Nothing ever ends" but I felt

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Surprisingly more violent than book.
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« Reply #262 on: March 06, 2009, 06:29:12 PM »
I bought the graphic novel today and blew through the first three chapters. I had to look up the Gordian Knot thing on Wikipedia, but otherwise, I'm having no problem keeping up.

As for the film, I'll wait for the director's cut. Hopefully, it's released to theaters.
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« Reply #263 on: March 06, 2009, 06:34:03 PM »
I'll consider seeing this if it has Silk Spectre full frontal/boobage. Does it have either?

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« Reply #264 on: March 06, 2009, 06:37:18 PM »
I'll consider seeing this if it has a flashback of Silk Spectre starting elementary school with full frontal/boobage. And a dick. Does it have either?

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« Reply #265 on: March 06, 2009, 06:41:41 PM »
I'll consider seeing this if it has Silk Spectre full frontal/boobage. Does it have either?

Yes and It's sooooo good  :hyper

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« Reply #266 on: March 06, 2009, 06:41:54 PM »
Ok... this is important. The penis. Thumbs up?
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« Reply #267 on: March 06, 2009, 06:43:17 PM »
Ok... this is important. The penis. Thumbs up?

It's a glowing blue dong.

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« Reply #268 on: March 06, 2009, 06:43:47 PM »
Well I mean does it have considerable weight with it? Or is it just kind of there and not very flattering.
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« Reply #269 on: March 06, 2009, 06:49:53 PM »
Those are some droopy nuts
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« Reply #270 on: March 06, 2009, 06:54:37 PM »
Gonna see it tomorrow night
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« Reply #271 on: March 06, 2009, 06:56:42 PM »
Ok... this is important. The penis. Thumbs up?

He seems somewhat less than flaccid, maybe because he knows people are going to be looking.

Also, as others have observed: he's inexplicably circumcised. To be fair, Dr. Manhattan isn't an MD - maybe he thinks it's cleaner.

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« Reply #272 on: March 06, 2009, 06:57:41 PM »
Even SuperHeroes have to look their best. Who wants to fear a disgusting anteater cock
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« Reply #273 on: March 06, 2009, 07:01:39 PM »
I got slammed for wanting to like movies? Oh geez, Triumph. :smug

No, you got slammed for WANTING TO APOLOGIZE FOR UNTALENTED HACK ZACH SNYDER.  Or, TRYING TO RATIONALIZE LIKING BAD MOVIES. 

Don't get me wrong; I like plenty of bad movies, but I'm cognizant of the fact that what I am enjoying is, in fact, a BAD MOVIE BY A BAD DIRECTOR.  I don't say stuff like "ZACH SNYDER'S GOT SOME TALENT" when that is quite obviously not the case.

Uh, I haven't even seen Watchmen, dude. Or formed an opinion on it, other than my optimism has soured in recent days.

Snyder is talented. I'm not quite sure how you can say otherwise - you not liking his filmography doesn't void that. Guy obviously has a good knack for visual storytelling. He's not Spielberg or anything, but he is talented.
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« Reply #274 on: March 06, 2009, 07:05:16 PM »
Yeah, Triumph, I'm kinda puzzled by your hate on for Snyder.  He's made 2 entertaining (if not great) flicks.  Even if they weren't your thing, I still can't understand why someone would possibly hate him as much as you do. 

I thought Dawn of the Dead was better than it had any right to be and I thought 300 was ridiculous to the point of being entertaining, even if it doesn't hold up so well on repeat viewings.
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« Reply #275 on: March 06, 2009, 07:05:59 PM »
Visually 300 was pretty good. I could see why someone wouldn't like the movie overall, but there are some great sights in it. If you can't give the man that you're just a...hater
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« Reply #276 on: March 06, 2009, 07:08:56 PM »
Yeah, I literally went in wanting to hate Dawn of the Dead as a hardcore fan of the Romero classic, and Snyder won me over with that one.
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« Reply #277 on: March 06, 2009, 07:11:03 PM »
Man, I just saw some pictures of the normal blond actress who played Silk Spectre II in the movie and she's so....normal looking  :\

Hollywood is amazingly good at making a normal girl look sizzling on celluloid (especially when naked).

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« Reply #278 on: March 06, 2009, 07:11:50 PM »
People love to throw out the term "hack" without really knowing what the fuck they're talking about. Its the interwebs, the person with the most radical opinion gets heard.

On Malin Ackerman: I know! - in real life she's just really pretty in a girl next door sort of way. But the movie showed me how she in fact has one of the top 5 greatest asses ever.
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« Reply #279 on: March 06, 2009, 07:13:39 PM »
Yeah, Triumph is nothin but a BITCH
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« Reply #280 on: March 06, 2009, 07:14:04 PM »
the zombie baby was pretty fucking stupid, though
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« Reply #281 on: March 06, 2009, 07:20:27 PM »
Zombie baby would have been better if it was played for intentional laughs.
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« Reply #282 on: March 06, 2009, 07:21:43 PM »
or if they just didn't show it at all and kept it to the rustling noises under the bed

movie makers are afraid to let people use their imagination these days
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« Reply #283 on: March 06, 2009, 07:21:50 PM »
Dawn of the Dead was awesome and 300 wasn't

or if they just didn't show it at all and kept it to the rustling noises under the bed

movie makers are afraid to let people use their imagination these days

I think they're afraid period.  300 was just taking the book and filming it, not really adapting it to work or anything like that.  It's all to keep true to the source material or some shit like that, but they forget that the source material was a book, not a movie.
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« Reply #284 on: March 06, 2009, 07:27:01 PM »
or if they just didn't show it at all and kept it to the rustling noises under the bed

movie makers are afraid to let people use their imagination these days

Its not really the fault of the industry, but rather audiences. Specifically, American audiences. They demand everything spelled out and that's evolved into doing so visually, as well. Blame dumb people at test screenings.
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« Reply #285 on: March 06, 2009, 07:28:14 PM »
Yeah, Triumph, I'm kinda puzzled by your hate on for Snyder.  He's made 2 entertaining (if not great) flicks.  Even if they weren't your thing, I still can't understand why someone would possibly hate him as much as you do. 

I thought Dawn of the Dead was better than it had any right to be and I thought 300 was ridiculous to the point of being entertaining, even if it doesn't hold up so well on repeat viewings.

Because he's not a good director.  I guess if all directors had to do was set up cool looking shots and shit that would be cool and all, but eventually you're gonna have to get decent or good performances out of actors and Snyder just hasn't shown that he's capable of that yet.  He'd probably make a kick ass DP, but as a director?  Nothing I've seen from him shows any merit in that area, sorry.
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« Reply #286 on: March 06, 2009, 07:31:24 PM »
I imagine that there are alot of people who read the graphic novel and interpreted it as something gritty and cool, and then they see this somewhat goofy movie and feel as though there's been some lost opportunity here.  The truth is they just weren't receptive to how kooky-bizarre that book actually was, and how much it undermines its own attempt at being taken completely seriously.  

Anyone who can appreciate what makes Starship Troopers a great movie will fucking adore The Watchmen.  

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« Reply #287 on: March 06, 2009, 07:34:38 PM »
I imagine that there are alot of people who read the graphic novel and interpreted it as something gritty and cool, and then they see this somewhat goofy movie and feel as though there's been some lost opportunity here.  The truth is they just weren't receptive to how kooky-bizarre that book actually was, and how much it undermines its own attempt at being taken completely seriously.  

Anyone who can appreciate what makes Starship Troopers a great movie will fucking adore The Watchmen.  

Sure, it would have been cool if they'd gone that route.  But instead they tried to do a little bit of everything and what they ended up with was a mess that tries to be all "deep n serious" one minute and then campy the next.  I mean, I guess if you liked that, more power to you.  But for me it wasn't a good movie.
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« Reply #288 on: March 06, 2009, 07:46:51 PM »
Uhh did anyone else have kids in their theather? When I was leaving, I saw 4 kids(like around 8 or so) and they seemed to really enjoy it. I'm surprised someone brought their children to this. It's so violent.
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« Reply #289 on: March 06, 2009, 08:23:02 PM »
Uhh did anyone else have kids in their theather? When I was leaving, I saw 4 kids(like around 8 or so) and they seemed to really enjoy it. I'm surprised someone brought their children to this. It's so violent.

Hey, people brought their kids to see Passion of the Christ.  ::)

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« Reply #290 on: March 06, 2009, 08:25:21 PM »
People always bring kids to movies that kids should not be at. It never fucking fails. Even worse, they get offended when they realize the movie had swearing, violence, or nudity. Seriously, did you not fucking know what you were going to see?

The funniest example of such idiocy I recall recently was when I saw Grindhouse, and some moron brought his kids, who must have been all of 6-8 years old. The first fake trailer (Hobo With A Shotgun) wasnt even done before he was storming out, kids in tow.

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« Reply #291 on: March 06, 2009, 08:41:28 PM »
I went and saw My Bloody Valentine and we sat next to a father with his two 7 year old sons.  I mean wtf
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« Reply #292 on: March 06, 2009, 08:52:22 PM »
Well I mean does it have considerable weight with it? Or is it just kind of there and not very flattering.

Judge for yourself

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I'm convinced that Zack Snyder is gay now. What a cigarillo. :hump

Blew through another two chapters after dinner, will do another one before I go to bed to get through the halfway point. Then I have all of Saturday to finish it off, then I'm going to hand my copy to my dad, now that he's interested in it.

Oh, and can someone explain the importance of the pirate story to me? ???
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Re: Watchmen - You gonna see it?
« Reply #293 on: March 06, 2009, 09:01:58 PM »
Just got back from seeing it in IMAX. :bow2
They just built a imax theater 4 blocks from house. This proves without a shadow of a doubt the existence of God.

As for the movie I thought it was disjointed. The movie as a whole lacked cohesiveness--they included so many microdetails to appease purist that it compromised the movie. There were too many flashbacks that consisted of nothing but music blaring, I think if they were cut or somehow interposed better it would have improved the movie dramatically. Everything felt lifeless. As is, the movie feels sterile. Also I thought some of the choreography was way to extravagant (people getting punched and doing backflips or jumping 20 feet in the air and floating doesn't look cool; it looks distinguished mentally-challenged). Still enjoyed it, it certained looked awesome.

But OMG IMAX. Shitty trailers though Monsters vs. Aliens, Harry Potter, and Transformers  :yuck
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Re: Watchmen - You gonna see it?
« Reply #294 on: March 06, 2009, 09:09:03 PM »
Uhh did anyone else have kids in their theather? When I was leaving, I saw 4 kids(like around 8 or so) and they seemed to really enjoy it. I'm surprised someone brought their children to this. It's so violent.

Hey, people brought their kids to see Passion of the Christ.  ::)

"you see what he went through for you?! you see what happens son, you see what happens?"
"daddy you're scaring me"

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Re: Watchmen - You gonna see it?
« Reply #295 on: March 06, 2009, 09:21:35 PM »
After some time to think about it, I think the story (having not read the graphic novel) was alright and has merits and some interesting questioning for its time.  My problem with the story in the film and why the film is so un-engaging is just that none of the characters were likable.  When you don't care about anyone, you don't care about the plot's world and it's hard to get a satisfying end out of it.  This could be a problem of the movie just not doing a good job fleshing out the novel's cast; but as a film everyone just feels so empty and soulless.

I didn't see The Spirit, but from what I read that had a similar problem where it looked great but felt empty.

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Re: Watchmen - You gonna see it?
« Reply #296 on: March 06, 2009, 09:38:33 PM »
After some time to think about it, I think the story (having not read the graphic novel) was alright and has merits and some interesting questioning for its time.  My problem with the story in the film and why the film is so un-engaging is just that none of the characters were likable.  When you don't care about anyone, you don't care about the plot's world and it's hard to get a satisfying end out of it.  This could be a problem of the movie just not doing a good job fleshing out the novel's cast; but as a film everyone just feels so empty and soulless.

I didn't see The Spirit, but from what I read that had a similar problem where it looked great but felt empty.

You don't get it, bebpo.  Instead of trying to coax watchable performances out of his actors, Zach Snyder was doing the right thing by thinking up COOL LOOKING SHOTS and RAD ASS GREEN SCREEN ACTION SHIT to show people.  That's what directing is all about!
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Re: Watchmen - You gonna see it?
« Reply #297 on: March 06, 2009, 09:56:06 PM »
After some time to think about it, I think the story (having not read the graphic novel) was alright and has merits and some interesting questioning for its time.  My problem with the story in the film and why the film is so un-engaging is just that none of the characters were likable.  When you don't care about anyone, you don't care about the plot's world and it's hard to get a satisfying end out of it.  This could be a problem of the movie just not doing a good job fleshing out the novel's cast; but as a film everyone just feels so empty and soulless.

I didn't see The Spirit, but from what I read that had a similar problem where it looked great but felt empty.

You don't get it, bebpo.  Instead of trying to coax watchable performances out of his actors, Zach Snyder was doing the right thing by thinking up COOL LOOKING SHOTS and RAD ASS GREEN SCREEN ACTION SHIT to show people.  That's what directing is all about!

Um, I think it could be argued Snyder made a few of the characters more likable and fully-realized than their comic counterparts.

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Re: Watchmen - You gonna see it?
« Reply #298 on: March 06, 2009, 10:17:43 PM »
I think the choice of actors and their abilities accurately captured the notion that deep down, the Watchmen are just regular people.

I think you're 17.
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Re: Watchmen - You gonna see it?
« Reply #299 on: March 06, 2009, 10:21:39 PM »
I saw it.

It was alright, I guess? Better than 300. And the breasts were glorious.