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Re: Watchmen - You gonna see it?
« Reply #60 on: February 26, 2009, 10:59:32 PM »
I'll probably see it eventually...
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« Reply #61 on: February 26, 2009, 11:03:35 PM »
Yes, unless I hear it's awful.  It should certainly be interesting.

edit: and I thought 300 sucked... worse than the comic, which was alright enough and nice to look at.
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« Reply #62 on: February 26, 2009, 11:08:03 PM »
Maybe I'll catch it on BR sometime. Never heard of it before the movie was announced.
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« Reply #63 on: February 26, 2009, 11:10:37 PM »
I'll just download a screener or something whenever it comes out.

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« Reply #64 on: February 26, 2009, 11:12:09 PM »
The video game is up for pre-order at Steam. $19.99.

Let me repeat that. $19.99. And I hear it's only two hours long.  :yuck
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« Reply #65 on: February 26, 2009, 11:21:08 PM »
Devin Faraci from CHUD.  He's usually good for taking a few shots at film geek properties.  He got a flooded inbox full of vile after criticizing The Dark Knight.

And to clarify, I've got no problems with people critiquing film geek properties - this board is basically nothing but that.  Devin bugs me because he seems to go into things looking to break them down and does so with a condescending attitude.  It's obnoxious.
Devin went crazy over Hellboy II and wouldn't shut up about it, he even said it was better than TDK. He is not much better than Harry Knowles.

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« Reply #66 on: February 26, 2009, 11:25:19 PM »
Sure, why not. I dig comic book filmage.
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« Reply #67 on: February 26, 2009, 11:56:15 PM »
Devin went crazy over Hellboy II and wouldn't shut up about it, he even said it was better than TDK. He is not much better than Harry Knowles.

So because he said Del Toro's latest was better than The Dark Knight, which is something some people have said on this very board, he's as bad as Harry Knowles?  I'm no fan of Devin Farici's holier than thou review style, but to equate him to Harry Knowles because of he favors Hellboy II over The Dark Knight is borderline distinguished mentally-challenged.

Knowles shouldn't be allowed to type on the Internet; he's nothing more than an expense for studio marketing executives nowadays.  He lost McWeeny, the only decent writer the site ever had, because the site lost any semblance of credibility.

Farici is a half decent writer, doesn't pull punches on stuff he legitimately dislikes and although he has an incredibly condescending persona, he has maintained credibility as a legitimate critic over the years.  That alone makes him better than Harry Knowles.

Hell, everyone here is better than Harry Knowles.

Gene Shalit is better than Harry Knowles.
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« Reply #68 on: February 27, 2009, 12:02:30 AM »
Devin went crazy over Hellboy II and wouldn't shut up about it, he even said it was better than TDK. He is not much better than Harry Knowles.

So because he said Del Toro's latest was better than The Dark Knight, which is something some people have said on this very board, he's as bad as Harry Knowles?  I'm no fan of Devin Farici's holier than thou review style, but to equate him to Harry Knowles because of he favors Hellboy II over The Dark Knight is borderline distinguished mentally-challenged.



It's more how he wouldn't shut up about it than the TDK comparison. He posted endless articles about his love for Hellboy II. He acted like a crazed internet fanboy about it.

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« Reply #69 on: February 27, 2009, 12:08:00 AM »
He posted like, three articles about Hellboy II - counting his actual review.  That hardly qualifies as endless.

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« Reply #70 on: February 27, 2009, 12:08:44 AM »
lol TDK isn't even in my top 5 for 2008.

And yeah my comparison to Knowles was over the top and not that fair to him, but Devin is still a internet nerd who goes a bit crazy for whatever blockbuster flick he seems to like the most at that moment. Someone who gets really worked up in the hype and marketing of the movie like Devin is with Watchmen and is with a handful of movies each year makes me wary of those reviews since he becomes fanboyish about it.  In the end I try to avoid internet geek critics for reviews as much as possible. I rather read from someone who is more detached from the hoopla of a new blockbuster.

 In terms of internet critics I'd say my most trusted is this guy, I very rarely disagree with him:
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« Reply #71 on: February 27, 2009, 12:09:09 AM »
Hellboy II  :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat
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« Reply #72 on: February 27, 2009, 12:14:51 AM »
Someone who gets really worked up in the hype and marketing of the movie like Devin is with Watchmen and is with a handful of movies each year makes me wary of those reviews since he becomes fanboyish about it.

What are you talking about?  Faraci is the anti-hype.  Do constantly bitches about everything.  This sounds like you're butthurt that he bitched about some property you love.

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« Reply #73 on: February 27, 2009, 12:19:05 AM »
Not really. I read chud daily, its a lot better than aicn but it still has that geek movie fansite stigma that I tend to ignore when it comes to reviews.

About Hellboy II:
I really like Del Toro,  Pan's Labyrinth...Hellboy...etc. And in Hellboy 2 I really really loved the stuff with Hellboy himself and that bunch of characters but it lost me with the elves and princesses and shit. It was damn pretty too look at but the stuff with those elves felt like some 80's fantasy movie in story telling and plot and seemed to dominate it. I wanted to see Hellboy be sarcastic and shoot stuff with Del Toro's awesome style. Not some drawn out story about elves and kings and princesses. It became far too much of a fantasy movie compared to the first one.

And no my dislike of devin's reviews has nothing to do with that, I am the same way about reviews of any of those type of sites regardless who it is. Geek movie blockbuster types are never the type of reviewers I go to when I am unsure if I'll like a flick.


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« Reply #75 on: February 27, 2009, 12:46:10 AM »
I will be there, day one, at midnight.

It better not suck, or I will be pissed.
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« Reply #77 on: February 27, 2009, 01:36:42 AM »
If you happen to be in bestbuy and are in need of Xbox live points or gold cards, you can get yourself two free tickets to the movie worth 12 bucks. After all the mixed pre release buzz I don't wanna waste my gold passes on the movie. I'd rather feel like I was buying more xbl points.

But to be serious about the movie I'm looking forward to seeing it. Hell I might be able to talk the girlfriend into going to see it on opening weekend (a rarity)

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« Reply #78 on: February 27, 2009, 01:49:20 AM »
I wish I had a greater appreciation for Hellboy II, but I watched it on a plane and got cut off with about 30min left in the movie. Once I realized that I didn't much care about making it to the end, I severely downgraded the movie in my mind.
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« Reply #80 on: February 27, 2009, 07:34:56 AM »
To be fair, two of the articles were actual news (set visit and trailer launch) and The Devin's Advocate is his blog stuff.  It's obvious after the set visit that he was digging on the movie.  In general, he has a track record for bitching about everything.  That's personally why I dislike him.
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« Reply #81 on: February 27, 2009, 08:06:44 AM »
John Hodgman said something like, "The movie is fine as long as it understands it has no right to exist", which is about right for me. I think it'll make a wonderful bit of non-essential, ancillary material for the text. I'm expecting to really enjoy the film, but I doubt it'll change the world.
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« Reply #82 on: February 27, 2009, 09:02:11 AM »
John Hodgman said something like, "The movie is fine as long as it understands it has no right to exist"
That pretty much sums it up right there. As long as it isn't a complete cinematic abortion the alternative was never seeing the material put to film at all. It won't surpass it's source material, the only question is whether it comes across with the minimal amount of competency.

I'm still uncharacteristically optimistic about this for some reason, but if it turns out to be shite onscreen so be it.
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« Reply #83 on: February 27, 2009, 09:24:00 AM »
One film critic on the radio said the new Clive Owen film was really good but Watchmen was really boring.

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« Reply #84 on: February 27, 2009, 09:43:30 AM »
John Hodgman said something like, "The movie is fine as long as it understands it has no right to exist"
That pretty much sums it up right there. As long as it isn't a complete cinematic abortion the alternative was never seeing the material put to film at all. It won't surpass it's source material, the only question is whether it comes across with the minimal amount of competency.

I'm still uncharacteristically optimistic about this for some reason, but if it turns out to be shite onscreen so be it.

I would almost love an Animatrix style thing. 12 directors, 1 for each issue?
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« Reply #85 on: February 27, 2009, 10:30:12 AM »
The RT rating is really encouraging at this point.

This better not suck. You don't want to see what happens if this sucks.
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« Reply #86 on: February 27, 2009, 10:38:56 AM »

This better not suck. You don't want to see what happens if this sucks.

Thread after thread of angry, mildly autistic manchildren complaining about how a great work of art--a graphic novel about superheros--was forever ruined? Yeah, I don't want to see that.
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« Reply #87 on: February 27, 2009, 11:00:58 AM »
^ That's guaranteed to happen anyway, though.

RAAAAAAGE about how it seems that Snyder completely fucked up Ozymandias.

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« Reply #88 on: February 27, 2009, 03:18:31 PM »
I read a spoiler heavy review on the somethingawful frontpage.  They changed somethings for the worse it seems.  Will avoid.
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« Reply #89 on: March 02, 2009, 12:20:42 PM »
Ok, so since this is starting to get some less than stellar reviews, some of the wingnuts over at GAF are proclaiming it to be the next Blade Runner  :lol

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« Reply #90 on: March 02, 2009, 12:24:08 PM »
The negative reviews have been, for the most part, pretty distinguished mentally-challenged.

And yeah, the whole Blade Runner thing is hard, because it will take years for us to be able to look at the situation and see if it has became the Blade Runner of comic book movies.

In any case, movie still looks better than anything in a radius of 12 months.

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« Reply #91 on: March 02, 2009, 12:25:18 PM »
New Scorsese in 7 months. Fail.

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« Reply #92 on: March 02, 2009, 12:27:21 PM »
The departed was average. Will temper expectations. And Leo made Body of Lies, which was average too, so, who knows.

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« Reply #93 on: March 02, 2009, 12:39:33 PM »
New Scorsese in 7 months. Fail.

Shutter Island?
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« Reply #94 on: March 02, 2009, 12:42:51 PM »
Yes. October 2nd, 7 months to the day! Each successive Scorsese/Leo pairing becomes my movie event of that year.

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« Reply #95 on: March 02, 2009, 01:15:49 PM »

In any case, movie still looks better than anything in a radius of 12 months.
Public Enemies and Shutter Island say hello.

I also can't wait for Moon. Sci-Fi flick directed by David Bowie's son and the only actor in the entire movie is Sam Rockwell. Got a lot of praise at Sundance.

All will be better than Watchmen!

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« Reply #96 on: March 02, 2009, 01:57:51 PM »
Thread after thread of angry, mildly autistic manchildren complaining about how a great work of art--a graphic novel about superheros--was forever ruined? Yeah, I don't want to see that.

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« Reply #97 on: March 02, 2009, 02:10:02 PM »
I'm considering doing that Best Buy deal where you  get two tickets free with some Xbox Live thing.

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« Reply #98 on: March 02, 2009, 02:17:35 PM »
I also can't wait for Moon. Sci-Fi flick directed by David Bowie's son and the only actor in the entire movie is Sam Rockwell. Got a lot of praise at Sundance.
This movie looks awesome :omg

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« Reply #99 on: March 02, 2009, 04:48:03 PM »
I'll see it this Friday, provided I finish the book.

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« Reply #100 on: March 02, 2009, 04:55:45 PM »
I also can't wait for Moon. Sci-Fi flick directed by David Bowie's son and the only actor in the entire movie is Sam Rockwell. Got a lot of praise at Sundance.
This movie looks awesome :omg
Yes it does! I've seen a decent amount of reviews claim it will be this decade's "Alien". Can't wait.


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« Reply #101 on: March 02, 2009, 05:11:13 PM »
The video game is up for pre-order at Steam. $19.99.

Let me repeat that. $19.99. And I hear it's only two hours long.  :yuck

And how long are most XBLA/PSN titles for nearly the same price? Exactly.

Becides, you shouldn't say a damn thing. You seem to have really bad tastes in things.
I'm just pissed that this will be stinking up XBLA this week instead of OutRun Online Arcade...  :maf
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« Reply #102 on: March 02, 2009, 05:16:57 PM »
I also heard that Dr. Manhattan's dong is bigger in the film. Is Snyder a closet homosexual?  :-*
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« Reply #103 on: March 02, 2009, 05:23:35 PM »
moar liak DONGtor Manhattan, amirite?
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« Reply #104 on: March 02, 2009, 05:24:50 PM »
moar liak DONGtor Manhattan, amirite?
What an enormous schwanstucker!  :-*
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« Reply #105 on: March 02, 2009, 05:25:37 PM »
They should have renamed Doctor Manattan Doctor Hammer.
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« Reply #106 on: March 03, 2009, 12:36:12 AM »
moar liak DONGtor Manhattan, amirite?

How about COCKtor Manhattan?
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« Reply #107 on: March 03, 2009, 01:08:55 PM »
Going to see it in IMAX on Friday night at Navy Pier.  Stoked.  :D

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« Reply #108 on: March 03, 2009, 02:11:38 PM »
I also can't wait for Moon. Sci-Fi flick directed by David Bowie's son and the only actor in the entire movie is Sam Rockwell. Got a lot of praise at Sundance.
This movie looks awesome :omg
Yes it does! I've seen a decent amount of reviews claim it will be this decade's "Alien". Can't wait.

That premise is really interesting, gotta wait till June.   :'(   

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« Reply #109 on: March 03, 2009, 02:22:25 PM »
There's some really interesing films that were recognised at sundance this year, and Moon is one of them.

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Section: Premieres
Director: Glenn Ficarra, John Requa
Stars: Jim Carrey, Ewan McGregor, Leslie Mann

What's It About? If Carrey in The Yes Man didn't seem enough of a stretch for you, just wait till you see him in this bizarre-looking, true-life black comedy, playing a Texas policeman who came out of the closet, went to jail and fell in love with his cellmate (McGregor).

World's Greatest Dad
Section: Spectrum
Director: Bob "Bobcat" Goldthwait
Stars: Robin Williams, Dary Sabara, Alexie Gilmore

What's It About? The Police Academy star follows the bizarre Stay, about a girl who admits to giving a dog a blowjob, with another black comedy, about a poetry teacher who covers up his son's death in a freak masturbation accident by faking a suicide journal that becomes a literary phenomenon.

Moon
Section: Premieres
Director: Duncan Jones
Stars: Sam Rockwell, Kevin Spacey (voice)

What's It About? The British sci-fi revival starts here: the debut film from acclaimed ad director Jones, starring Sam Rockwell as a solo miner who starts to think he may not be alone on the moon after all when a serious accident leaves him concussed and possibly delusional. Sam Rockwell co-stars.

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Section: US Documentary Competition
Director: Tom DiCillo
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What's It About? Indie auteur Dicillo (Living In Oblivion) makes an unexpected move into documentary with this highly anticipated docudrama about psychedelic LA rock legends The Doors, which uses only - repeat, only - original footage of the band that was shot between 1966 and 1971.

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« Reply #110 on: March 03, 2009, 02:32:03 PM »

This better not suck. You don't want to see what happens if this sucks.

Thread after thread of angry, mildly autistic manchildren complaining about how a great work of art--a graphic novel about superheros--was forever ruined? Yeah, I don't want to see that.

This is what I don't get. How is watching a movie going to take away from the graphic novel?

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« Reply #111 on: March 03, 2009, 05:02:49 PM »

This better not suck. You don't want to see what happens if this sucks.

Thread after thread of angry, mildly autistic manchildren complaining about how a great work of art--a graphic novel about superheros--was forever ruined? Yeah, I don't want to see that.

This is what I don't get. How is watching a movie going to take away from the graphic novel?

It's not taking away from the graphic novel from me. But one of the best thing about Watchmen IMO was that it felt almost meant for film. The way the frames were presented were very cinematic.

I'm seeing it at 12:02 AM on Friday morning.
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« Reply #112 on: March 03, 2009, 05:13:32 PM »

This better not suck. You don't want to see what happens if this sucks.

Thread after thread of angry, mildly autistic manchildren complaining about how a great work of art--a graphic novel about superheros--was forever ruined? Yeah, I don't want to see that.

This is what I don't get. How is watching a movie going to take away from the graphic novel?
Because alan moore said so. :lol

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« Reply #113 on: March 03, 2009, 05:22:12 PM »
I'm not even going to judge it on the merits of the source work.  More important for me will be- is it, you know, an actual good MOVIE?  I doubt it will be, even on the slightly dumbed down popcorn flick scale.  Zach Snyder doesn't exactly inspire confidence in me.
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« Reply #114 on: March 03, 2009, 06:11:36 PM »
Synder should do a 24 part HBO miniseries adaption of the Bible. Purists/theologians would be thrilled with his dedication to source material
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« Reply #115 on: March 03, 2009, 06:17:37 PM »

This better not suck. You don't want to see what happens if this sucks.

Thread after thread of angry, mildly autistic manchildren complaining about how a great work of art--a graphic novel about superheros--was forever ruined? Yeah, I don't want to see that.

This is what I don't get. How is watching a movie going to take away from the graphic novel?

Because alan moore said so. :lol
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My books are still the same books as they were before they were made into films. The books haven't changed. I'm reminded of the remark by, I think it was Raymond Chandler, where he was asked about what he felt about having his books "ruined" by Hollywood. And he led the questioner into his study and showed him all the books there on the bookshelf, and said, Look—there they all are. They're all fine. They're fine. They're not ruined. They're still there. And I think that's pretty much the attitude I take. If the books are as good as I think they are, then they are the things that will endure. And if the films are as bad as I think they are, then they are the things that will not endure. So, I suppose we'll see at the end of the day, whenever that is.
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« Reply #117 on: March 04, 2009, 01:00:31 PM »
Just came back. My feelings are mixed. The first half is pretty incredible, but there are some really awkward and poor scenes starting from the point where Dan and Laurie get together. The sex scene was cringeworthy. Halleluhjah playing in the background didn't improve on things. Any important scene with Laurie in it sort of missed its mark because Akerman is by far the weakest link in this movie, acting wise. Laurie and Manhattan's scene on Mars wasn't half as powerful as it could've been.
On the flip side, the best acting work was done by Haley. He completely nailed it. Apart from a few weak lines, Gugino has also done a very good job.

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The ending... I can live with it. I hated how there weren't any shots of the aftermath and we didn't get the final conversation between Manhattan and Ozy, but overall the compromise made was satisfying enough.
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There are other obvious changes from the book, some I could tolerate, others not. I missed Captain Metropolis. I always felt that Ozy had to stand on the side during the Comedian's outburst, now the entire monologue was aimed directly at him. I figure it was too hard to fit Metropolis in the script

Overall I'm pretty pleased as to how it turned out, but there are definitely some major flaws.
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« Reply #118 on: March 04, 2009, 01:31:56 PM »
Good impressions Darunia. I've got tickets for 7:20 on Friday.

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« Reply #119 on: March 04, 2009, 01:43:38 PM »
I'm printing my ticket now. Thanks for the impressions, Darunia
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