Author Topic: Guys, we made Miyamoto sad durinig the GC era (Read 3202 times)

Human Snorenado · « **on:** March 12, 2009, 03:08:48 PM »

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"There was an era when Nintendo was going in the direction of doing the same things other companies did," Miyamoto told Kato. "The more we competed with new companies entering the market, the more we started acting similar to them. But is being number one in that competition the same as being number one with the general public? That's the question we had. Entertainment is something that you have to look at the world with a very wide eye as you create it. I always thought that, but there were a few years where I was unable to get off other people's trends. It was a dilemma in my mind."

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2009, 03:14:54 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on March 12, 2009, 03:09:50 PM

Who?

Some creepy old dude that mumbles a lot.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2009, 03:19:46 PM »

Fire up the Drudge Report sirens! We've got breaking news!!

archie4208 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2009, 03:20:55 PM »

Miyamoto is making me sad during the Wii era.

Oblivion · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2009, 03:26:36 PM »

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The more we competed with new companies entering the market, the more we started acting similar to them.

I like Miyamoto, but there's sadly a few too many instances where he seems to have things ass-backwards. Gamecube had a shitload of problems from the start, but among them wasn't the fact that they tried to be too similar to the competition. This was an era when Nintendo went batshit insane with distinguished mentally-challenged experiments with their biggest games that only resulted in further alienation.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2009, 03:30:37 PM »

Quote from: Oblivion on March 12, 2009, 03:26:36 PM

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The more we competed with new companies entering the market, the more we started acting similar to them.

I like Miyamoto, but there's sadly a few too many instances where he seems to have things ass-backwards. Gamecube had a shitload of problems from the start, but among them wasn't the fact that they tried to be too similar to the competition. This was an era when Nintendo went batshit insane with distinguished mentally-challenged experiments with their biggest games that only resulted in further alienation.

That's one way to look at it, but from Nintendo's perspective [and probably Miyamoto's as well], they are experiencing growth, profit, and mainstream awareness on a scale not seen in at least 15 years.

demi · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2009, 03:38:00 PM »

This was evident during his GDC keynote. Huge ass midlife crisis.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #7 on:** March 12, 2009, 08:31:19 PM »

It sure sounds good, dc. But will it be an instant classic along the lines of this gem?

Himu · « **Reply #8 on:** March 12, 2009, 08:59:53 PM »

That gif is such a classic.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #9 on:** March 12, 2009, 09:49:26 PM »

Gahiggidy is already a joke character.

demi · « **Reply #10 on:** March 12, 2009, 09:50:13 PM »

You're Gahiggidy

Barry Egan · « **Reply #11 on:** March 12, 2009, 10:07:25 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on March 12, 2009, 09:49:26 PM

Gahiggidy is already a joke character.

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huh?

Draft · « **Reply #12 on:** March 12, 2009, 10:29:18 PM »

The saddest thing in the world is a sad Japanese man.

tiesto · « **Reply #13 on:** March 12, 2009, 11:25:44 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on March 12, 2009, 08:31:19 PM

It sure sounds good, dc. But will it be an instant classic along the lines of this gem?

(Image removed from quote.)

I'm still waiting for that to come out on the VC... but with Nintendo's lame-ass one game a week thing, it's taking forever

E-DuB · « **Reply #14 on:** March 13, 2009, 12:34:06 AM »

"Guys, we made Miyamoto sad durinig the GC era"

They made me cry during the GC era with the high amounts of filth they put out as games

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #15 on:** March 13, 2009, 01:02:23 AM »

Quote from: E-DuB on March 13, 2009, 12:34:06 AM

"Guys, we made Miyamoto sad durinig the GC era"

They made me cry during the GC era with the high amounts of filth they put out as games

Lol, you must really be loving Nintendo right now if that's the way you thought about the Gamecube.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 13, 2009, 01:20:52 AM »

one thing you can't say about the gamecube is that it had a high output of games.

although if you look at the "games" they're currently putting out it is much higher

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #17 on:** March 13, 2009, 01:30:04 AM »

And here I thought the gba and gcn were intentional stopgaps. I mean really, no new internaly developed mario/zelda on the gba. WTF?
They've had a fantastic turnaround though, well except for close to total abandonment of the ds software. Left in the vacuum is too many attempts at the shitty rpg genre. It had a few good years though.

etiolate · « **Reply #18 on:** March 13, 2009, 02:12:26 AM »

Quote from: Oblivion on March 12, 2009, 03:26:36 PM

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The more we competed with new companies entering the market, the more we started acting similar to them.

I like Miyamoto, but there's sadly a few too many instances where he seems to have things ass-backwards. Gamecube had a shitload of problems from the start, but among them wasn't the fact that they tried to be too similar to the competition. This was an era when Nintendo went batshit insane with distinguished mentally-challenged experiments with their biggest games that only resulted in further alienation.

Nah.

The GC era had Nintendo recruiting third parties, mature titles, RPGs, and all sorts of other stuff they were criticized for previously. And it was still ignored. Nintendo just realized that manbabies weren't worth trying to win over. Said fuck y'all and went cha-ching with the DS/Wii.

E-DuB · « **Reply #19 on:** March 13, 2009, 02:24:19 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 13, 2009, 01:02:23 AM

Quote from: E-DuB on March 13, 2009, 12:34:06 AM
"Guys, we made Miyamoto sad durinig the GC era"

They made me cry during the GC era with the high amounts of filth they put out as games

Lol, you must really be loving Nintendo right now if that's the way you thought about the Gamecube.

Let me qualify that. I felt during the GC's last years the vast majority of first party games were needless and uninspired, see Mario Kart Double Dash, Mario Tennis, Mario Soccer, Mario Baseball etc. And with the Wii I'm seeing the same uninspired re-hashes being announced and released. What's driving me over the edge is the fact that they are going BACK and releasing games from the GC era instead of fleshing out new ideas and unused properties. Pikmin 3 and Mother 3 would be great but here, have Pikmin 1 with motion controls.

MCD · « **Reply #20 on:** March 13, 2009, 05:49:09 AM »

GAMECUBE MARIO TENNIS WAS FUCK AWESOME

Lafiel · « **Reply #21 on:** March 13, 2009, 06:24:09 AM »

GCN had some awesome-awesome exclusives like REmake & Metroid prime, but during it's life-span eg 2002-2006, it mostly collected dust here, it's even worse with the wii unfortunately it collects dust mostly + no awesome-awesome occasional exclusives like the GCN had.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #22 on:** March 13, 2009, 12:15:39 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on March 13, 2009, 01:30:04 AM

And here I thought the gba and gcn were intentional stopgaps. I mean really, no new internaly developed mario/zelda on the gba. WTF?
They've had a fantastic turnaround though, well except for close to total abandonment of the ds software. Left in the vacuum is too many attempts at the shitty rpg genre. It had a few good years though.

Advance Wars DoR > every Nintendo-published Wii game released since, combined

Oblivion · « **Reply #23 on:** March 13, 2009, 06:03:18 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on March 12, 2009, 08:22:20 PM

Wii End it All

Miyamoto produces another classic again inspired from his own life experience. Mimic tying a rope around your head, dragging tubing to your car, slicing your wrists or placing a shotgun in your mouth... all with the wiimote! End your virtual life day after day and enjoy a number of Mii compatible amazing scenarios such as :

* You've been fired!
* Our son is actually fathered by some gaijin, THAT is why his hair is blond
* Honey, i spent the retirement
* Tokyo hooker STD blues
* 2G2D: Madoff surplise!
* GC sales trends OMG

Only 9800 yen.

Might I suggest the name: Suwiicide?

Kara · « **Reply #24 on:** March 14, 2009, 12:51:09 AM »

I'm sad people keep letting him make things.

Sorry, let him make things.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #25 on:** March 14, 2009, 12:56:35 AM »

i still think my wii fluffer game idea has a shot at the big time

maybe i should start a bob's game styled viral campaign for it

Trent Dole · « **Reply #26 on:** March 14, 2009, 01:45:35 AM »

GC was good, damnit. Better than the stupid N64 anyway.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #27 on:** March 16, 2009, 02:05:47 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on March 14, 2009, 12:56:35 AM

i still think my wii fluffer game idea has a shot at the big time

maybe i should start a bob's game styled viral campaign for it

It's obvious that's what the system was made for.

Guybrush Threepwood · « **Reply #28 on:** March 16, 2009, 10:36:34 PM »

Dude, you need to retire. You've been making computer games for more than half your life. Your fans are distinguished mentally-challenged. You know that you're past your prime.

Give it up now before you die penniless and broken.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #29 on:** March 16, 2009, 11:48:36 PM »

pilonv1 · « **Reply #30 on:** March 17, 2009, 02:45:23 AM »

To think Waggle could have been averted by bigger take up of gamecube. Gamers brought this on themselves

dark1x · « **Reply #31 on:** March 17, 2009, 08:57:49 AM »

Quote from: Trent Dole on March 14, 2009, 01:45:35 AM

GC was good, damnit. Better than the stupid N64 anyway.

Honestly, I think the Gamecube was one of the best systems Nintendo ever released. Right behind the SNES and NES, respectively.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #32 on:** March 17, 2009, 08:50:26 PM »

Quote from: dark1x on March 17, 2009, 08:57:49 AM

Quote from: Trent Dole on March 14, 2009, 01:45:35 AM
GC was good, damnit. Better than the stupid N64 anyway.
Honestly, I think the Gamecube was one of the best systems Nintendo ever released. Right behind the SNES and NES, respectively.

mmm, 16-bit dithered output

duckman2000 · « **Reply #33 on:** March 17, 2009, 08:51:17 PM »

Gamecube

Bildi · « **Reply #34 on:** March 17, 2009, 09:41:19 PM »

GC was good unless you lived in PAL regions. After learning my lesson with a PAL N64 (delayed releases or not releasing at all and crappy PAL 50hz conversions) I imported a JAP/US cube and it was great.

Rman · « **Reply #35 on:** March 17, 2009, 09:53:14 PM »

The gamecube was fun little system. Pikmin, REMake, RE4, Wind Waker, F-Zero GX, were all awesome.

archie4208 · « **Reply #36 on:** March 17, 2009, 09:59:23 PM »

Gamecube had Smash Bros. Melee. That alone makes it better than the Wii.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #37 on:** March 17, 2009, 10:00:38 PM »

u smoking crack?

GC was junk. The greatest advantage it held over the competition was price and to laugh at how GameStop would only give people about $30 trade in credit for it in 2003.

1st Party Games? Bad. Probably the worst iterations of the Nintendo franchises out there. The only exception was F-Zero and SSB Melee and the latter is just barely passable (only reason why it gets mentioned is SSB Brawl is worse). Nintendo really dropped the ball, sucked the dick, etc. on the software front. Probably why nobody bought the thing. People buy the systems for Nintendo games. People didn't buy the GC because the Nintendo games on it were ass.

3rd Party Games? Sparse. We got the Capcom 5 which didn't materialize to anything. We got Symphonia but oh wait, you could get that on PS2 the following year. Same goes for RE4. Most of the good GC stuff went to the PS2. All you had to be was a little patient because you knew that six months later, a PS2 version hit the shelf. Take those versions away and the GC exclusive front was sparse at best. Remember those six month stretches of one or two releases?

What did GC add to the table? Little. The GBA connectivity was a joke. In fact, Nintendo seemed to give up on the GameCube entirely and once the DS started hitting its stride, sales wise, Nintendo forgot it even existed. That should be a cue that even Nintendo didn't give a fuck about the Cube. Neither should you.

Oblivion · « **Reply #38 on:** March 17, 2009, 10:03:10 PM »

T EXP

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #39 on:** March 17, 2009, 10:04:03 PM »

GC gave me two Gundam games and a new Super Robot Wars title. It's good in my book.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #40 on:** March 17, 2009, 11:15:21 PM »

The cube was best experienced at the end of it's lifecycle- you could get it and all of the quality games on the console for dirt cheap, probably about as much as you'd pay for a system, memory card and a game or two when it launched. Probably cheaper.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #41 on:** March 17, 2009, 11:41:58 PM »

That's how I experienced the Gamecube. I bought it just as Resident Evil 4 was released and stocked up on a bunch of cheap quality titles.

cool breeze · « **Reply #42 on:** March 17, 2009, 11:51:49 PM »

My Gamecube buying experience was getting the system and Luigi's Mansion at launch, playing it a bit, then calling a friend asking if I could come over and play more Halo.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #43 on:** March 17, 2009, 11:57:49 PM »

I thought Luigi's Mansion was pretty awesome

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #44 on:** March 17, 2009, 11:59:28 PM »

I'm willing to admit that I enjoyed Paper Mario 2.

Rman · « **Reply #45 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:03:12 AM »

Quote from: swaggaz on March 17, 2009, 11:51:49 PM

My Gamecube buying experience was getting the system and Luigi's Mansion at launch, playing it a bit, then calling a friend asking if I could come over and play more Halo.

That's so lame that Nintendo pimped out a Luigi game for the launch, and when Sunshine came out it was pretty lackluster as well. Galaxy was a great rebound, though.

cool breeze · « **Reply #46 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:03:51 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on March 17, 2009, 11:57:49 PM

I thought Luigi's Mansion was pretty awesome

It was an alright game, it's more about how I felt bad for choosing the Gamecube over the Xbox at that time. Halo was just too awesome.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #47 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:18:18 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on March 17, 2009, 11:57:49 PM

I thought Luigi's Mansion was pretty awesome

Maybe thinking isn't your strong suit, then.

Yeti · « **Reply #48 on:** March 18, 2009, 08:29:14 AM »

The Gamecube was my system of choice last gen, I had more Gamecube games than my Xbox and PS2 combined. My memories of the last gen is of greatly preferring the Gamecube library. I just pulled up my list of gamecube games that I own for a little listwar action, and as I was looking through it I realized that most of the games are entirely mediocre. I feel so disillusioned right now.

I still prefer the gamecube controller and the design of the actual console over the Xbox and PS2 though.

dark1x · « **Reply #49 on:** March 18, 2009, 09:21:37 AM »

Quote from: Yeti on March 18, 2009, 08:29:14 AM

The Gamecube was my system of choice last gen, I had more Gamecube games than my Xbox and PS2 combined. My memories of the last gen is of greatly preferring the Gamecube library. I just pulled up my list of gamecube games that I own for a little listwar action, and as I was looking through it I realized that most of the games are entirely mediocre. I feel so disillusioned right now.

I still prefer the gamecube controller and the design of the actual console over the Xbox and PS2 though.

Let's see that list!

tiesto · « **Reply #50 on:** March 18, 2009, 10:10:41 AM »

I liked Gamecube better than Xbox 1, definitely... Baten Kaitos Origins, Tales of Symphonia, Skies of Arcadia with some bonuses, Fire Emblem, Super Monkey Ball. Nintendo's first party was at their weakest, aside from Melee, though. Sunshine and Wind Waker are my least favorite main-line games in their respective series.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #51 on:** March 18, 2009, 10:27:10 AM »

The Gamecube was great if you didn't want to play more than one or two games a year. Xbox 1 pooped all over it as far as a steady stream of quality games.

I'm thinking of picking up another used cube tho, since Cube is the one place I can own the entire RE canon.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #52 on:** March 18, 2009, 10:42:43 AM »

Quote from: E-DuB on March 13, 2009, 12:34:06 AM

"Guys, we made Miyamoto sad durinig the GC era"

They made me cry during the GC era

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Yeti · « **Reply #53 on:** March 18, 2009, 05:05:20 PM »

Quote from: dark1x on March 18, 2009, 09:21:37 AM

Quote from: Yeti on March 18, 2009, 08:29:14 AM
The Gamecube was my system of choice last gen, I had more Gamecube games than my Xbox and PS2 combined. My memories of the last gen is of greatly preferring the Gamecube library. I just pulled up my list of gamecube games that I own for a little listwar action, and as I was looking through it I realized that most of the games are entirely mediocre. I feel so disillusioned right now.

I still prefer the gamecube controller and the design of the actual console over the Xbox and PS2 though.
Let's see that list!

Haha, I was planning on cherry picking the "great" games from the list of games I own, but it would be pretty short.

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Author Topic: Guys, we made Miyamoto sad durinig the GC era (Read 3202 times)