Author Topic: Drinky, are you going to buy Pokegod Platicummmmm? (Read 2836 times)

TakingBackSunday · « **on:** March 23, 2009, 03:18:22 PM »

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EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #1 on:** March 23, 2009, 03:40:02 PM »

They need to reset the franchise. They can keep pika for marketing purposes but I want a return to the days of fewer pokemon and less convoluted evolution methods. Also redo the type chart and make the levelcap 50.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #2 on:** March 23, 2009, 03:59:12 PM »

archie4208 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 23, 2009, 04:00:54 PM »

Are the battles any faster? They were SO SLOW in D/P.

Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich · « **Reply #4 on:** March 23, 2009, 04:13:40 PM »

Mmmmmm DP...

demi · « **Reply #5 on:** March 23, 2009, 04:19:42 PM »

I read they sped up the battles and other additions. I never got past the beginning of Diamond so I will probably play this one.

Probably

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #6 on:** March 23, 2009, 04:32:49 PM »

Sped up battles you say? Hmm.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #7 on:** March 23, 2009, 04:34:52 PM »

I played like an hour last night and the battles are indeed faster. Not like Dragon Quest V 1 speed fast, but faster...

they also changed up how you get your first pokemon. I chose Piplup this time around, and I'm already regretting it. Chimchar is too awesome.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #8 on:** March 23, 2009, 04:38:52 PM »

MCD · « **Reply #9 on:** March 23, 2009, 04:40:31 PM »

pokemon died with gold/silver.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #10 on:** March 23, 2009, 04:50:23 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on March 23, 2009, 04:38:52 PM

No

I haven't experienced the lag you spoke of on GAF in this game! Not yet anyway.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #11 on:** March 23, 2009, 07:35:45 PM »

there's no lag; it's just stupid choppy. however, i couldn't play more than 30 minutes of the last pokemon game without feeling a crushing sense of ennui, so i'm not even gonna bother this time 'round.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #12 on:** March 23, 2009, 07:40:13 PM »

do you guys play these games in public

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #13 on:** March 23, 2009, 07:44:14 PM »

of course not

demi · « **Reply #14 on:** March 23, 2009, 07:47:28 PM »

sure i play it on the spare moments i'm in public. planes. trains. cars.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #15 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:02:08 PM »

you aren't missing much. they're really ugly.

Rman · « **Reply #16 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:08:15 PM »

Quote from: MCD on March 23, 2009, 04:40:31 PM

pokemon died with gold/silver.

Last one I played.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #17 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:11:13 PM »

Have they made the WiFi more interesting? I was very disappointed by...just about everything in the first DS title. I liked the stream lined menus and stuff but it was still almost the same damn game with a new paint job.

I want a more open world where you can interact with other people. Like say allowing 20 people or so to be playing in a server-like environment where you can attack each other, trade, chat, train together, tag team gym leaders, etc. Like a limited MMO

Rman · « **Reply #18 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:30:14 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 23, 2009, 08:11:13 PM

Have they made the WiFi more interesting? I was very disappointed by...just about everything in the first DS title. I liked the stream lined menus and stuff but it was still almost the same damn game with a new paint job.

I want a more open world where you can interact with other people. Like say allowing 20 people or so to be playing in a server-like environment where you can attack each other, trade, chat, train together, tag team gym leaders, etc. Like a limited MMO

That's wishful thinking given Nintendo's backward online implementation this generation.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #19 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:36:11 PM »

I played the shit out of Red and Blue in 99. Haven't played another one since.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #20 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:48:06 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on March 23, 2009, 07:35:45 PM

there's no lag; it's just stupid choppy. however, i couldn't play more than 30 minutes of the last pokemon game without feeling a crushing sense of ennui, so i'm not even gonna bother this time 'round.

send me your pokemon games you didn't play!

I want to 'mon it up but I can never bring myself to spend money on them.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #21 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:55:58 PM »

Quote from: T EXP on March 23, 2009, 08:36:11 PM

I played the shit out of Red and Blue in 99. Haven't played another one since.

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cool breeze · « **Reply #22 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:56:47 PM »

I think I'm done falling into the pokemon trap. I really liked Blue way back when (and Red, Yellow, etc.) but after that I would buy the games, play a couple of hours and just stop. I have Sapphire (the blue one I think) for the DS that I barely played and I don't need another pokemon game to barely play.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #23 on:** March 23, 2009, 09:01:25 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on March 23, 2009, 08:48:06 PM

Quote from: Professor Prole on March 23, 2009, 07:35:45 PM
there's no lag; it's just stupid choppy. however, i couldn't play more than 30 minutes of the last pokemon game without feeling a crushing sense of ennui, so i'm not even gonna bother this time 'round.

send me your pokemon games you didn't play! I want to 'mon it up but I can never bring myself to spend money on them.

i don't own any except MAYBE pokeyman for the gbc somewhere

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #24 on:** March 23, 2009, 09:03:29 PM »

my favorite is still gold/silver. game was fucking awesome.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #25 on:** March 23, 2009, 09:05:22 PM »

i bought my sister gold/silver back around when it came out and tried it a bit myself. i was disappointed in how bland and slow it was, made me feel guilty for inflicting it on her (she did like it)

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #26 on:** March 23, 2009, 09:34:44 PM »

I would like them to remake Gold/Silver much like they did for Red and Blue (Green?).

Ninja · « **Reply #27 on:** March 23, 2009, 09:49:55 PM »

Diamond was the first one I played since G/S and I loved it. I'd like to see them find a better way to deliver messages in battle though, when there's alot going on it gets pretty annoying. I'm gonna get Platinum.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #28 on:** March 23, 2009, 10:03:00 PM »

I feel like I've played the GBA ones, but I could be imagining it. They're all so similar.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #29 on:** March 23, 2009, 10:49:58 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on March 23, 2009, 09:01:25 PM

Quote from: Father_Mike on March 23, 2009, 08:48:06 PM
Quote from: Professor Prole on March 23, 2009, 07:35:45 PM
there's no lag; it's just stupid choppy. however, i couldn't play more than 30 minutes of the last pokemon game without feeling a crushing sense of ennui, so i'm not even gonna bother this time 'round.

send me your pokemon games you didn't play! I want to 'mon it up but I can never bring myself to spend money on them.

i don't own any except MAYBE pokeyman for the gbc somewhere

:'(

I think some of the older ds ones are only $24 this week. I'm tempted to pick one up. $:-\$

...or get my mom to pick one up for me, so no one sees me at the counter with pokemon.

FatalT · « **Reply #30 on:** March 23, 2009, 10:51:50 PM »

I downloaded it but haven't played it yet. I bought Diamond when it came out but only played it for about an hour.

tiesto · « **Reply #31 on:** March 23, 2009, 11:31:54 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on March 23, 2009, 07:49:04 PM

i have still never played a pokemon game. huh.

Me neither, apart from a bit of Pokemon Snap and a tiny bit of the original Red/Blue on black and white GB (mostly fucking around in my brother's savegame, wasting all his pokeballs on capturing Pidgeys).

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #32 on:** March 24, 2009, 12:59:25 AM »

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #33 on:** March 24, 2009, 01:04:25 AM »

jesus christ, i just saw the strategy guide at fred meyer and it is bigger than the bible and the brothers karamazov combined

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #34 on:** March 24, 2009, 01:52:39 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on March 23, 2009, 09:03:29 PM

my favorite is still gold/silver. game was fucking awesome.

Loved it but Blue/Red is still my favorite. Probably played Blue more than any game, ever (only game that comes close in terms of me obsessing over it is StarCraft).

I bought the DS one mainly due to that nostalgia. The day Nintendo brings their online system into the 21st century with Pokemon, I'll be there on day one. Until then meh

Purple Filth · « **Reply #35 on:** March 24, 2009, 02:06:50 AM »

Red was awesome but my greatest data was from Silver.

I never played any of the GBA/DS ones though

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #36 on:** March 24, 2009, 02:41:34 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 24, 2009, 01:52:39 AM

Quote from: BrandNew on March 23, 2009, 09:03:29 PM
my favorite is still gold/silver. game was fucking awesome.

Loved it but Blue/Red is still my favorite. Probably played Blue more than any game, ever (only game that comes close in terms of me obsessing over it is StarCraft).

They both are great, but I think the fact that you could explore the entire Kanto region as well as the new world puts Gold/Silver over the top for me.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #37 on:** March 24, 2009, 03:38:20 AM »

Definitely agreed. Fun times. I remember when I could almost go door to door in my suburban neighborhood and challenge folks with either my GB/GBA or my cards. Probably the highlight of my social life

treythemovie · « **Reply #38 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:45:06 AM »

I kinda remember being horribly disappointed in Diamond's lineup of Pokemon and how slow the battles were. Diamond was definitely the most forgettable game of '07 though. In fact, I just recently checked my copy of diamond and apparently I have 72 hours (?!) put in it yet I don't remember any of it. Seriously, who would buy Platinum besides the kiddies or the crazy competitive people?

tehjaybo · « **Reply #39 on:** March 24, 2009, 11:26:26 AM »

I played through Diamond and really liked it, but got bored with my DS and traded it in. Now, I have a DSi on reserve, and I picked up Platinum. I figure, since I've played just about every pokemon game that was a normal pokemon game (Blue, Red, Yellow, Silver, Gold, Leaf Green, Diamond, and even the fucking trading card game on GBC), I might as well play this one. I'm just waiting for the DSi to start playing.

TEEEHEE GUYS ANYONE WANT TO TRADE?

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #40 on:** March 24, 2009, 11:52:15 AM »

I had B/R, loved them like whoa

Next I got Sapphire, I got like 2/3rds through it and got bored.

I got that Red remake on GBA after it was years old and really enjoyed that.

I allowed myself to get excited for D/P somehow, played about 2/3rds of it again and then I couldn't take the slow ass bullshit and repetition anymore.

After playing the DQ remakes, even a sped up D/P will feel like a long turd. Maybe I'll stick FireRed in my micro and buy GTA DS

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #41 on:** March 24, 2009, 12:14:10 PM »

Pearl was my first. Played it maybe 5 hours. Couldn't really get into it. Tempted to pick up Platinum though to see if I like it any better.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #42 on:** March 24, 2009, 12:22:18 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 24, 2009, 03:38:20 AM

Definitely agreed. Fun times. I remember when I could almost go door to door in my suburban neighborhood and challenge folks with either my GB/GBA or my cards. Probably the highlight of my social life

You are a sad, sad person Maurice. It's probably the homeschooling that is to blame, but still just lol.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #43 on:** March 24, 2009, 02:00:10 PM »

El Oh El at grown ass men playing Pokemons but catching feelings over other people playing Animal Crossing

demi · « **Reply #44 on:** March 24, 2009, 02:01:26 PM »

stats, man. stats.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #45 on:** March 24, 2009, 02:14:58 PM »

not really, I just like collecting cute motherfuckers like chimchar

rubber feathers · « **Reply #46 on:** March 24, 2009, 02:33:03 PM »

I dunno, I loved R/B and G/S (especially!), and even liked R/S, but I picked up Pearl near launch and it took me 8 months of off-and-on play to actually beat the elite four. Then when I decided to get the national dex I realized I had to track down a bunch of "legendary" pokemon to actually get it. Then I plopped it on eBay because I'm tired of that bullshit.

Then I looked into buying Platinum and all it offers are some minor upgrades and a slightly different storyline. That's all they could come up with in two years? I just want my Silver remake already.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #47 on:** March 24, 2009, 11:58:17 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on March 23, 2009, 03:59:12 PM

no

The franchise has become a gigantic clusterfuck that almost requires a strategy guide to play. The evolution mechanisms are bullshit and confusing (your pokemon must have this certain one move at a certain level but you'll never figure that out on your own!) Personality influences on stats aren't explained ingame. Breeding moves are never listed ingame. Its nearly impossible to get several pokemon from previous generations without buying several older versions and tediously trading. A gigantic portion of moves are redundant and pointless. You're expected to now know which fire/water/etc type attacks are physical or special in addition to every poke having one of two traits. BITCH BITCH BITCH

I used to love pokemon when it wasn't such a bloated web of numbers and statistics and general bullshit. I'll gladly sign back up when they reset the franchise.

Guybrush Threepwood · « **Reply #48 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:00:10 AM »

gold/silver is the last time they went out of their way to add awesome features (talking about the entire land from the first game being accessible)

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #49 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:15:53 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on March 24, 2009, 02:41:34 AM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 24, 2009, 01:52:39 AM
Quote from: BrandNew on March 23, 2009, 09:03:29 PM
my favorite is still gold/silver. game was fucking awesome.

Loved it but Blue/Red is still my favorite. Probably played Blue more than any game, ever (only game that comes close in terms of me obsessing over it is StarCraft).

They both are great, but I think the fact that you could explore the entire Kanto region as well as the new world puts Gold/Silver over the top for me.

that blew my mind as a kid. So awesome.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #50 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:24:52 AM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on March 25, 2009, 12:15:53 AM

Quote from: BrandNew on March 24, 2009, 02:41:34 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 24, 2009, 01:52:39 AM
Quote from: BrandNew on March 23, 2009, 09:03:29 PM
my favorite is still gold/silver. game was fucking awesome.

Loved it but Blue/Red is still my favorite. Probably played Blue more than any game, ever (only game that comes close in terms of me obsessing over it is StarCraft).

They both are great, but I think the fact that you could explore the entire Kanto region as well as the new world puts Gold/Silver over the top for me.

that blew my mind as a kid. So awesome.

Fucking A, same here.

You're all like "man, that game was awesome. I'm gonna walk down this path and see if there are any late-game pokemon to catch...

...

wait...

...omg

...

OMG

PALLET TOWN WHAT THE SHIT"

I think I might fire up Silver, to be honest.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #51 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:36:43 AM »

emcee is right, the series needs a reboot. Like Advance Wars did.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #52 on:** March 25, 2009, 06:24:22 AM »

Oh fuck yes. Days of Ruin was the last great game I had before I gave my ds away. And the reason it was awesome is because the superflous baggage the series had built up was removed. I don't think it did that great retail wise but lets blame marketing shall we.

-Pokemon needs to get back down to ~200-300 pokes. Less filler, more type combinations and full evolution lines.
-redo the type matchups and criteria so we don't end up with redundancies like 5 bug/flying types. Have it make sense. Water beats rock? Ice not effective against water?
-lower level cap so I can raise many monsters in a shorter time to be battle ready.
-Evolution is obtained either through level up/stones/something intelligble. No more of this trading with a specific item attached or max happiness at nightime nonsense.I NEVER GOT A POLITOED CUZ DIS.
-one trait per species, period
-tms can be reused so I don't have to farm from other copies.
-lower damage moves need to compensate by having effects that happen more than 10% of the time.
I actually like alot of the stuff they have added but they let themselves get carried away by some bad design choices that were relatively minor in the first game.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #53 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:27:57 PM »

I didn't really like Days of Ruin...I think I liked the first DS game more.

demi · « **Reply #54 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:29:26 PM »

I'm not sure how Days of Ruin counts as a reboot. It's still Advance Wars.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #55 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:42:01 PM »

They scrapped all of the bloated bullshit from the first DS game, threw away all of the characters, the continuing plot, the artstyle, they scrapped a bunch of units and introduced a bunch more while changing up the balancing of the ones that carried over. They also scrapped the War Room that was clogged with decade-old SNES challenge maps and went with brand-new, ground-up challenge maps in their new campaign layout.

It's debatable whether the end result is better than AW1, but it's definitely better than AWDS.

Oh, they overhauled CO powers too, let you have hero units on the field.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #56 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:48:08 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on March 25, 2009, 12:27:57 PM

I didn't really like Days of Ruin...I think I liked the first DS game more.

me too. The first was still best though.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #57 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:59:05 PM »

I always thought the CO powers convoluted what would have otherwise been a pretty cool game.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #58 on:** March 25, 2009, 02:07:22 PM »

Yeah Pokemon needs a reboot. Shit's too confusing now. Get rid of hold items and moods and all that crap. Blech.

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