Author Topic: 30 years of hip hop: 538 tracks, 1 mix from the BBC (Read 2195 times)

Himu · « **on:** April 13, 2009, 12:13:59 PM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/30yearsofhiphop/downloads/jagskills.shtml

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Eric P · « **Reply #1 on:** April 13, 2009, 12:15:55 PM »

BBC 1 Xtra has some amazing stuff on it. But when I turn it on i only manage to catch Mainstream Rap Block #2526431

Himu · « **Reply #2 on:** April 13, 2009, 12:16:09 PM »

Eric P · « **Reply #3 on:** April 13, 2009, 12:19:24 PM »

oh look, it all goes to shit in 1991

thanks west coast.

Himu · « **Reply #4 on:** April 13, 2009, 12:22:47 PM »

Not a fan of west coast rap huh?

Veidt · « **Reply #5 on:** April 13, 2009, 12:24:19 PM »

I just watched Notorious. Biggie was nothing. A total meh.

Westside!!!!!!!!

Bacchus7 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 13, 2009, 12:41:35 PM »

Two Tupac songs? One of them California Love? Wow.

Eric P · « **Reply #7 on:** April 13, 2009, 12:44:47 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on April 13, 2009, 12:22:47 PM

Not a fan of west coast rap huh?

basically. The whole early 90s gangster thing totally killed hip hop. when white people got a hold of The Chronic it fucking killed everything else because record labels started chasing that particular bullshit to begin to cater to this explosion of new found genre fans.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8 on:** April 13, 2009, 04:59:45 PM »

Quote from: Eric P on April 13, 2009, 12:44:47 PM

Quote from: Himuro on April 13, 2009, 12:22:47 PM
Not a fan of west coast rap huh?

basically. The whole early 90s gangster thing totally killed hip hop. when white people got a hold of The Chronic it fucking killed everything else because record labels started chasing that particular bullshit to begin to cater to this explosion of new found genre fans.

I'd argue that the initial "gangsta" wave of the early 90s was one of the strongest periods of hip hop. The 1995 sample of this mix is insane

(nsfa opinion below)

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The Chronic is overrated

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tehjaybo · « **Reply #9 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:01:46 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 13, 2009, 04:59:45 PM

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The Chronic is overrated
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You are an insult to your skin color.

Himu · « **Reply #10 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:12:35 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 13, 2009, 04:59:45 PM

Quote from: Eric P on April 13, 2009, 12:44:47 PM
Quote from: Himuro on April 13, 2009, 12:22:47 PM
Not a fan of west coast rap huh?

basically. The whole early 90s gangster thing totally killed hip hop. when white people got a hold of The Chronic it fucking killed everything else because record labels started chasing that particular bullshit to begin to cater to this explosion of new found genre fans.

I'd argue that the initial "gangsta" wave of the early 90s was one of the strongest periods of hip hop. The 1995 sample of this mix is insane

(nsfa opinion below)

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The Chronic is overrated
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It is. Doggystyle > Chronic

Eric P · « **Reply #11 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:17:57 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 13, 2009, 04:59:45 PM

Quote from: Eric P on April 13, 2009, 12:44:47 PM
Quote from: Himuro on April 13, 2009, 12:22:47 PM
Not a fan of west coast rap huh?

basically. The whole early 90s gangster thing totally killed hip hop. when white people got a hold of The Chronic it fucking killed everything else because record labels started chasing that particular bullshit to begin to cater to this explosion of new found genre fans.

I'd argue that the initial "gangsta" wave of the early 90s was one of the strongest periods of hip hop. The 1995 sample of this mix is insane

(nsfa opinion below)

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The Chronic is overrated
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my own personal preference is for 87-90 east coast with a smattering of 74-80. A lot of stuff like 84 - 86 didn't really click for me though there are def some classics from that time period.

Himu · « **Reply #12 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:19:35 PM »

87-91

94-96

those are my faves

79 - 82 are really fun too

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #13 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:26:39 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on April 13, 2009, 05:19:35 PM

87-91

94-96

those are my faves

79 - 82 are really fun too

Might have to agree with you there, although 91-94 was also amazing. 90s saw producers move away from James Brown and start experimenting more; some of hip hops best producers weren't even at their peak yet at that point, like Premier, Pete Rock, Large Pro, Havoc, K-Def, Clark Kent, etc.

Eric P · « **Reply #14 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:28:32 PM »

actually there's a lot to love through the entire 80s and there's stuff to love in the 90s, but my own personal preferences are against the west coast stuff that started gaining ground in the late 80s early 90s, though there are some absolute classics of the style in that era. I absolutely cannot front on Straight Outta Compton or Ice Cube's Solo Output (quelle surprise seeing who wrote SOC).

Himu · « **Reply #15 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:29:43 PM »

yeah

i guess i'll just have to day 87-96 in general

It's basically 10 years of awesome and evolution. But that's me being bias since I pretty much grew up in that era of hip hop.

tiesto · « **Reply #16 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:29:59 PM »

Nice list, but needs a bit more Mike Jones...

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #17 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:32:40 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on April 13, 2009, 05:29:43 PM

yeah

i guess i'll just have to day 87-96 in general

It's basically 10 years of awesome and evolution.

Agreed.

Eric: so you like some of the east coast gangsta stuff, which was more varied than west coast stuff imo

Himu · « **Reply #18 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:37:12 PM »

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I like west coast 90's for that specific sound. I'm fond of that sound, and it's all but lost on modern west cost hip hop.

Eric P · « **Reply #19 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:48:20 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 13, 2009, 05:32:40 PM

Eric: so you like some of the east coast gangsta stuff, which was more varied than west coast stuff imo

most gangsta stuff i just avoid because it doesn't really interest me in content nor in attitude.

oh neat. Talib Kweli will be doing a special appearance at fat beats this saturday for record store day.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #20 on:** April 13, 2009, 06:33:11 PM »

Quote from: Eric P on April 13, 2009, 12:44:47 PM

basically. The whole early 90s gangster thing totally killed hip hop. when white people got a hold of The Chronic it fucking killed everything else because record labels started chasing that particular bullshit to begin to cater to this explosion of new found genre fans.

You know I started typing up this epic response as to why you're so fucking wrong but then I realized, holy fuck I totally agree with this.

Eric P · « **Reply #21 on:** April 13, 2009, 06:34:44 PM »

totally killed hip-hop is some forum hyperbole, but yeah, i stand by what i say for the most part.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #22 on:** April 13, 2009, 06:38:58 PM »

I don't think it so much "killed hip-hop" but it basically made it so that gangsta shit was the only form of hip-hop that would sell (to middle-class wiggers from the suburbs).

Eric P · « **Reply #23 on:** April 13, 2009, 06:44:51 PM »

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on April 13, 2009, 06:38:58 PM

I don't think it so much "killed hip-hop" but it basically made it so that gangsta shit was the only form of hip-hop that would sell (to middle-class wiggers from the suburbs).

yes, that's the aspect. this whole new section of society opened up their wallets to hip hop and then all of a sudden that's seemingly all there was.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #24 on:** April 13, 2009, 06:48:37 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on April 13, 2009, 06:42:39 PM

I think the parallel is how there is a straight line from Sonic Youth to Creed, and how the early 90's sucked at trend making.

There is no fucking straight line from Sonic Youth to Creed! Although I would love to hear your explanation for that.

TVC15 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 13, 2009, 06:51:50 PM »

Sonic Youth opened for Pearl Jam --> Creed

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #26 on:** April 13, 2009, 06:53:45 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on April 13, 2009, 06:51:50 PM

Sonic Youth opened for Pearl Jam --> Creed

I was going to point this out. Sonic Youth -> Nirvana -> Pearl Jam -> Stone Temple Pilots -> something something -> Creed. Each successive generation was crappier until you ended up with something banal enough that would please a young homeskooler from Michigan.

TVC15 · « **Reply #27 on:** April 13, 2009, 06:55:14 PM »

Actually, you can break it down further:

Sonic Youth toured with Neil Young, helping Neil Young make the SY-inspired Arc album.

Later on, Pearl Jam recorded that album with Neil Young that I forget the name of.

And then Sonic Youth opened for PJ (that was late-ish 90s-- 98 maybe)

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #28 on:** April 13, 2009, 08:03:54 PM »

Early 90s gangsta rap was quite different from the stuff that followed imo. Not only could many of the acts rap, their lyrical content went beyond boasting and bragging. When I listened to The Infamous I thought "wow, why would anyone want to be a gangster?" That album is so dark and grim; sure they bragged about their guns and prowess, but at the same time that album pulses with genuine regret and fear. That album wasn't a huge hit, neither was 36 Chambers (not that I'm saying it's a "gangsta" album). IIRC the first blockbuster 90s east coast gangsta hit was Ready to Die, and that's when things started getting overly flashy and extravagant. But while Ready to Die is definitely a commercial album it's also a very dark album where drug dealers aren't the all powerful supermen they're made out to be by today's rap.

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TEEEPO · « **Reply #29 on:** April 13, 2009, 08:50:01 PM »

weird, since a trible called quest, de la soul, eric b. & rakim, the pharcyde, beastie boys, souls of mischief, gang starr, the roots, gza, kool keith, company flow, dj shadow krush and such dictated the early to mid 90s for me.

not to say i didn't listen to nas, gravediggaz, black moon, wutang, dre and such but still, i'm at a total lost at the fuck you whities are talking about. if anything, hiphop has just only recently died

ch1nchilla · « **Reply #30 on:** April 13, 2009, 11:37:38 PM »

Quote from: Bacchus7 on April 13, 2009, 12:41:35 PM

Two Tupac songs? One of them California Love? Wow.

Yeah, it should definitely just be California Love.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #31 on:** April 13, 2009, 11:50:04 PM »

According to this Hip-Hop died in 2005

TEEEPO · « **Reply #32 on:** April 14, 2009, 01:32:00 AM »

this mix only served to validate

a tribe called quest

as being the greatest hiphop group ever.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #33 on:** April 14, 2009, 02:36:46 AM »

So the only recent indie stuff they include is MF DOOM in 04? Unless you count Talib Kweli those recent years are almost entirely mainstream pop rap

ch1nchilla · « **Reply #34 on:** April 14, 2009, 02:50:41 AM »

Looking at this list, some of my favorite rap came out between 1999 and 2001. $:-\$

Beezy · « **Reply #35 on:** April 14, 2009, 03:23:08 AM »

Quote from: Himuro on April 13, 2009, 12:16:09 PM

HIP-HOP 1999
| Jay-Z - Jigga My distinguished black fellow |

Quote from: ch1nchilla on April 14, 2009, 02:50:41 AM

Looking at this list, some of my favorite rap came out between 1999 and 2001. $:-\$

There's nothing wrong with that.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #36 on:** April 14, 2009, 03:24:31 AM »

that's one of the worst songs on Blueprint smh

ch1nchilla · « **Reply #37 on:** April 14, 2009, 03:56:03 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 14, 2009, 03:24:31 AM

that's one of the worst songs on Blueprint smh

I agree. However, Girls, Girls, Girls (and the Yeezy remix) is

cool breeze · « **Reply #38 on:** April 14, 2009, 03:33:57 PM »

Quote from: TEEEPO on April 14, 2009, 01:32:00 AM

this mix only served to validate a tribe called quest as being the greatest hiphop group ever.

truth

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #39 on:** April 14, 2009, 04:27:25 PM »

No Let Your Backbone Slide...FAIL
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Himu · « **Reply #40 on:** April 15, 2009, 04:25:58 PM »

u niggaz listen to dis?

Eric P · « **Reply #41 on:** April 15, 2009, 04:29:40 PM »

nah, all this did was kick in my nostalgia for 80s hip hop and i've have "i'm a blunt gettin smoked and i can't wake up" going through my head all day

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #42 on:** April 15, 2009, 06:37:50 PM »

If you ever see me smoking this, kick me in the grill!

Robo · « **Reply #43 on:** April 15, 2009, 06:39:47 PM »

Hearing some of these tracks in context of their release year makes me feel old.

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Author Topic: 30 years of hip hop: 538 tracks, 1 mix from the BBC (Read 2195 times)