Fallout: New Vegas

[pilonv1]

The only thing I hope is that it's in the same universe and there's something linking them together - not necessarily story but some sort of technology or history link would be awesome.

[Great Rumbler]

The only thing I hope is that it's in the same universe and there's something linking them together

That's what it's supposed to be. "Another game in the same universe" and "provides the same sort of experiences as in Fallout 3".

[Raban]

The only thing I hope is that it's in the same universe and there's something linking them together - not necessarily story but some sort of technology or history link would be awesome.

It'd be tight if this one took place way after people start coming out of the vaults, so it's like humanity trying to rebuild what was lost.

[pilonv1]

The only thing I hope is that it's in the same universe and there's something linking them together

That's what it's supposed to be. "Another game in the same universe" and "provides the same sort of experiences as in Fallout 3".

I would wet my pants so quickly.

Raban's idea is awesome actually, there's something slightly depressing about most Fallout, and I know that's what they're meant to convey. But the idea of helping rebuild something more than a wasteland would be really interesting.

[Raban]

The only thing I hope is that it's in the same universe and there's something linking them together

That's what it's supposed to be. "Another game in the same universe" and "provides the same sort of experiences as in Fallout 3".

I would wet my pants so quickly.

Raban's idea is awesome actually, there's something slightly depressing about most Fallout, and I know that's what they're meant to convey. But the idea of helping rebuild something more than a wasteland would be really interesting.

It would be really fun to be given the choice to help rebuild and live amongst the people, or dominate them, or just destroy it all and end humankind for good.

[Great Rumbler]

Well, in Fallout 2, Reno had become a sort of wasteland city. There were more people there than in any of the towns in the first game and you had the resurfacing of gambling and even the porn industry. So they might be doing something like that this time around too.

[M3wThr33]

DLC:

Anchorage: Passable, but not worth $10
The PITT: Great, and VERY replayable if you make a save early.
Broken Steel: FUCKING REQUIRED. GET IT.
Mothership Zeta: Piece of bulldookie. Avoid at all costs.
Point Lookout: Easily could have been it's own game. Worth it.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

[Human Snorenado]

*masturbates furiously*

[Human Snorenado]

Tomorrow is today. Where is the news?

stfu with your euro timezone bullshit, it's not even 9 am here on the east coast.  probably at least another four hours.

[cool breeze]

We're not just sending out a press release, or starting up an 800,000-second counter or anything like that. It's definitely something of substance.

that was posted on gaf.  get pumped.

[maxy]

Trailer is live on gametrailers,haven't watched it though.

[demi]

it's a shitty CG trailer. flop confirmed

[BlueTsunami]

Sucks that its a CG trailer but Fall 2010 = Unf Unf Unf

[Great Rumbler]

The first Fallout 3 teaser was CG, so no big deal.

However, I'm psyched for this big time now. 

[Stoney Mason]

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[Raban]

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Those leather pants

Also Ron Pearlman

[Brehvolution]

[ManaByte]

Will Obsidian finish the game this time?

[BobFromPikeCreek]

GOTY

[cool breeze]

Will Obsidian finish the game this time?

fuck no

Alpha Protocol is also supposed to be out this year, delayed over a year already.

[tiesto]

More interested in seeing gameplay video than pre-rendered stuff. Curious to see what they'll do with the combat, will it be VATS or a return to the Fallout 1/2 style?

[OptimoPeach]

Will Obsidian finish the game this time?

Well Obsidian pumped out KOTOR 2 in just a year after the original, and they have 2 years for this one...so I think so.

I dunno if I'd call KOTOR 2 complete

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Will Obsidian finish the game this time?

fuck no

Alpha Protocol is also supposed to be out this year, delayed over a year already.

Yes ... but delayed by who?

[BobFromPikeCreek]

More interested in seeing gameplay video than pre-rendered stuff. Curious to see what they'll do with the combat, will it be VATS or a return to the Fallout 1/2 style?

Or course it's going to be VATS.

[BlueTsunami]

They should have had Obsidian do the psuedo 3D Isometric (like Titan Quest) and the mainline Fallout do the whole VATS/FPS. But I guess they're working off the same engine.

[Human Snorenado]

That's it?  Kinda underwhelmed.

[Human Snorenado]

But I guess they're working off the same engine.

I sure hope not.

Yeah, cause Fallout 3 just SUCKED. 

[cool breeze]

Will Obsidian finish the game this time?

Well Obsidian pumped out KOTOR 2 in just a year after the original, and they have 2 years for this one...so I think so.

I dunno if I'd call KOTOR 2 complete

The "completed" KOTOR2 patch recently came out, didn't it?

Yes ... but delayed by who?

Unless you tell me something I don't know, I blame Sony for that whole "It's not enough like Mass Effect" thing.

Yeah, cause Fallout 3 just SUCKED. 

Fallout 3 greatness had nothing to do with the crappy engine, which was crappy in Oblivion as well, and the stayed crap in Fallout 3.  New Vegas may be the last victim before Bethesda hopefully makes the jump to id tech 5.

[pilonv1]

fallout 3 haters (not the NMA distinguished mentally-challenged fellows) are probably wii owners

[ManaByte]

Will Obsidian finish the game this time?

Well Obsidian pumped out KOTOR 2 in just a year after the original, and they have 2 years for this one...so I think so.

I dunno if I'd call KOTOR 2 complete

The "completed" KOTOR2 patch recently came out, didn't it?

So because FANS completed KOTOR2 Obsidian gets credit for finishing it?

[cool breeze]

obviously sarcastic quotations marks aren't considered sarcastic anymore? what decade am I in?

[ManaByte]

I think this is how Obsidian gets hired to make a game:

Exec: Ok we can't have BioWare make our game so who can get get?
Marketing Idiot: Well the kids on NeoGAF like these Obsidian people.
Exec: Aren't they the remnants of Black Isle who have yet to actually release a game that was finished?
Marketing Idiot: True, but if we slap their name on the box we're guaranteed at least X number of sales before people realize the game is unfinished.
Exec: Brilliant! Hire them now and set the release date for next month!

[pilonv1]

I dont think thats how it works at all

[Howard Alan Treesong]

ManaByte, you are an ignorant fuckwit. But what else is new?

[Great Rumbler]

NWN2 isn't a completed game now? lawl

[Bebpo]

From what I read at gaf, a few months weeks/months back Obsidian was already downplaying how they won't be able to make a deep excellent Fallout game like Fallout 1/2 because the Fallout 3 engine is just too sucky to allow that.

I still expect this to be better than Fallout 3 but I expect the gameplay to boil down to "shitty FPS" again, only this time with much better writing and a plot that doesn't suck.

[Great Rumbler]

It's going to play like Fallout 3, this was stated ages ago when it was first announced. Anyone expecting an isometric 3D Fallout like that old Van Buren demo is going to be disappointed.

[cool breeze]

Info from the magazine that was posted on gaf:

- There is an optional hardcore mode, the character needs to drink water, ammo has weight, healing isn't instant etc. Normal mode is more similar to Fallout 3 gameplay.

- The storyline is focused on the New California Republic vs. Caesar's Legion vs. New Vegas residents.

- You are not a vault dweller but are given a Pip-Boy by someone who is one.

- There is a screenshot of a vault suit as well.

- There is an assault rifle looking like the M4, as well as a new big gun with a backpack, held like a minigun.

- There are special moves for melee weapons in VATS - specifically a move for a golf club called "Fore" which seems to be a groin shot.

- The Hoover Dam is in the game and is supplying electricity to the city.

- There is a quest to rescue a ghoul from some super mutants. The ghoul can then become your companion

- The Geckos are back.

- There are both dumb and intelligent super mutants, including the elite Nightkin.

- Some super mutants look similar to the ones in Fallout 3, while others are new. There is e.g. a female super mutant with a 1950s hairstyle who apparently is one of their leaders.

- Screenshots include a guy with a beard and straw hat, a ghoul an NCR Ranger

- The only picture of New Vegas itself is concept art and not a screenshot

- Some location screenshots include a huge model dinosaur advertising a hotel, some satellite dishes, an array of solar panels

- A character generation shot showing a "vigour machine" instead of the skill book

- NCR base is the McCarran Airport, Caesar's Legion is based in the Vegas Strip, while super mutants are based in a place called Black Mountain. There is also a town called Fremont and another called Primm. A topless reuve is mentioned as being in the latter.

- NCR Ranger armor is similar to a brown combat armor with sleeves, there are concept arts of a Ranger

- Skils have a bigger effect on conversation choices. E.g. someone with a high Explosives skill may be able to have a coversation about explosives where appropriate.

- There is a Reputation system in adition to Karma.

The list is being updated as new details are being mentioned in the forum.

Okay so my subscriber copy of PC Gamer UK arrived, and they have an eight-page article on New Vegas. Salient points:

- First-person action RPG with the same engine as Fallout 3 (sorry, Van Buren fans).
- Set in the Mojave wastelands. Vegas didn't get many nukes. More intact buildings, as well as desert vegetation. Vegas itself is mostly intact.
- You don't play a Vault Dweller (or descendant of one) but a courier, left for dead and saved by a friendly robot.
- The overarching story is a struggle between the locals, Caesar's Legion (a faction of slavers from the east) and the New Californian Republic. Vegas itself is mostly intact.
- Both karma and reputation are tracked. If I'm reading it right there's separate reputations for each of the settlements, as in 1 and 2.
- All dialogue options are shown to all players, regardless of whether you have the stats to succeed or not, though there's no punishment for failure.
- Bartering is not just lower prices but negotiating for better rewards.
- VATS returns, and melee weapons have special moves in it. The golf club has "Fore!", which is a shot to the golf balls (so to speak) that knocks the opponent down. Weapons also now have knock-back upon death, with shotguns sending mans flying.
- Super Mutants return, but in two varieties - the smarter ones from Fallout 1, and the idiot ones from Fallout 2. On at least one occasion you can convince them to fight amongst themselves.
- New weapons include what appears to be an M4 and a grenade machinegun.
- Followers can be managed through a context-sensitive menu, with orders like "follow", "stay" or "attack".
- Hardcore Mode! In this mode, Stimpacks heal over time (as opposed to instantly), combat is tougher, ammo has weight and you can suffer dehydration, so keep some water on you!

One of the screenshots has a Super Mutant with a blonde wig and pink heart-shaped glasses.

You're a courier, wounded and left for dead in a shallow grave. A friendly robot, Victor, digs you out, and his doctor owner Mitchell patches you up. You take a "vigour test", which is some sort of electric parlour game. This decides who you are and sets up SPECIAL. You can also take some Rorschach tests, but the mag says this is for fun. The Doc then gives you a Pipboy as he was once a Vault dweller.

"Hoover Dam", and "Helios" (a solar plant, confirmed by the mag to have been built by Poseidon) are fought into and then you can direct the power to wherever you choose. In the case of Helios you can also keep the plant for your self use the energy to call down a powerful laser, or even try to distribute to all equally, however there is a risk of overloading the reactors.

There is a "reputation system", in which all three factions (NCR, Ceasar's Legion and the locals) will either see you as good or bad toward them individually.

There is a screenshot of three Capital Wasteland mutants running toward the player, who is wielding what *looks* to be a heavy incinerator, but has a TV screen and no flamer fuel tanks. He's also wearing NCR combat armour, which is in gold/mustard colours.

There are two separate screens of supermutants that look to be more local, grey skin, and the two are wearing very different clothes. One is Tabitha, who is hearing a blonde wig and love heart glasses. The mag implies she's "not all there".

One that quest, you rescue Raul, a ghoul who Tabitha kept alive to fix her favourite robot. He appears to be a follower, as the mag says you can give him items, and also commands, such as "stay, follow or attack", and also tell him to switch to melee, in which case he'll mutter "sure, I'll put away my rather effective gun, and switch to this piece of um, metal tubing here".

From what I read, the "all dialog" thing seems to imply there will be failures for skill checks as well as speech checks, though, as the mag states, there is no penalty for failing a skill check. In fact, the mag gives an example: A woman who the player tried a Sneak skill attempt on in conversation failed when convincing her an ambush would help the town be rid of a gang of raiders. She simply says ""Good luck with your, uh, ambush"

[Eel O'Brian]

For Fallout 4, I'd like to see it set in a period of time before even Fallout 1, maybe when people just started coming out of the vaults and civilization was at the very beginning of rebuilding.

[Positive Touch]

holy shit yessss hardcore mode!  i know it's just pain-in-the-ass micromanaging but who cares I LOVE IT

[Eel O'Brian]

yeah, sounds good, they could crank one of these out every year and i'd be happy

Fallout (insert # or subtitle here) GOTY 20##

[The Fake Shemp]

I've yet to see anything from Obsidian that inspires much confidence, but I will probably buy it anyway because I lub me some Fallout

[Eel O'Brian]

thought about this when i was playing FO3 - a neat quest would be your pipboy breaking/getting stolen, and you would have to find the parts to fix it/hunt down and kill the person who stole it, so you'd be flying blind for the entire questline with maybe just a paper map, a single weapon, and a handful of hot-keyed stimpacks

[BlueTsunami]

Sounds like its gonna have some fan service which I'm not opposed too. I like that they're bringing back the Combat Armor (from Fallout 1 and 2), Geckos and that rift between smart and dumb super mutants.

[Great Rumbler]

Okay, NOW I'm hyped.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Sounds hot!

[Akala]

this is sounding great.

I want to hunt mutants in McCarran and Fremont SO BAD.

[cool breeze]

Well, Obsidian's other game, Alpha Protocol, was delayed from spring 2010 to summer 2010.  Maybe good news for Fallout New Vegas...?

[cool breeze]

scans are online, just haven't found where yet

[Bebpo]

Already looks better than Fallout 3

[Eel O'Brian]

hey dude did you like fallout 3, i can never tell from your posts

[pilonv1]

this sounds incredible.

[Damian79]

# There is an optional hardcore mode, the character needs to drink water, ammo has weight, healing isn't instant etc.

# Normal mode is more similar to Fallout 3 gameplay.

# The storyline is focused on the New California Republic vs. Caesar's Legion (slavers from the east) vs. New Vegas residents.

# You are not a vault dweller but are given a Pip-Boy by someone who is one.

# There is a screenshot of a vault suit as well.

# There is an assault rifle looking like the M4, as well as a new big gun with a backpack, held like a minigun.

# There are special moves for melee weapons in VATS - specifically a move for a golf club called "Fore" which seems to be a groin shot.

# The Hoover Dam is in the game and is supplying electricity to the city.

# There is a quest to rescue a ghoul from some super mutants. The ghoul can then become your companion

# The Geckos are back.

# There are both dumb and intelligent super mutants, including the elite Nightkin. On at least one occasion you can convince them to fight amongst themselves.

# Some super mutants look similar to the ones in Fallout 3, while others are new. There is e.g. a female super mutant with a 1950s hairstyle who apparently is one of their leaders.

# Screenshots include a guy with a beard and straw hat, a ghoul and an NCR Ranger.

# The only picture of New Vegas itself is concept art and not a screenshot.

# Some location screenshots include a huge model dinosaur advertising a hotel, some satellite dishes, an array of solar panels

# A character generation shot showing a "vigour machine" instead of the skill book

# NCR base is the McCarran Airport, Caesar's Legion is based in the Vegas Strip, while super mutants are based in a place called Black Mountain.

# There is also a town called Fremont and another called Primm. A topless reuve is mentioned as being in the latter. Area 51 also appears.

# NCR Ranger armor is similar to a brown combat armor with sleeves, there are concept arts of a Ranger.

# Skils have a bigger effect on conversation choices. E.g. someone with a high Explosives skill may be able to have a coversation about explosives where appropriate.

# There is a Reputation system in addition to Karma.

# First-person action RPG with the same engine as Fallout 3.

# Set in the Mojave wastelands. Vegas didn't get many nukes. More intact buildings, as well as desert vegetation. Vegas itself is mostly intact.

# Both karma and reputation are tracked. If I'm reading it right there's separate reputations for each of the settlements, as in 1 and 2.

# All dialogue options are shown to all players, regardless of whether you have the stats to succeed or not, though there's no punishment for failure.

# Bartering is not just lower prices but negotiating for better rewards.

# Weapons also now have knock-back upon death, with shotguns sending people flying.

# Followers can be managed through a context-sensitive menu, with orders like "follow", "stay" or "attack".

# You're a courier, wounded and left for dead in a shallow grave. A friendly robot, Victor, digs you out, and his doctor owner Mitchell patches you up. You take a "vigour test", which is some sort of electric parlour game. This decides who you are and sets up SPECIAL. You can also take some Rorschach tests, but the mag says this is for fun. The Doc then gives you a Pipboy as he was once a Vault dweller.

# "Hoover Dam", and "Helios" (a solar plant, confirmed by the mag to have been built by Poseidon) are fought into and then you can direct the power to wherever you choose. In the case of Helios you can also keep the plant for your self, use the energy to call down a powerful laser, or even try to distribute to all equally, however there is a risk of overloading the reactors.

# There is a "reputation system", in which all three factions (NCR, Ceasar's Legion and the locals) will either see you as good or bad toward them individually.

# There is a screenshot of three Capital Wasteland mutants running toward the player, who is wielding what *looks* to be a heavy incinerator, but has a TV screen and no flamer fuel tanks. He's also wearing NCR combat armour, which is in gold/mustard colours.

# There are two separate screens of supermutants that look to be more local, grey skin, and the two are wearing very different clothes. One is Tabitha, who is hearing a blonde wig and love heart glasses. The mag implies she's "not all there".

# On that quest, you rescue Raul, a ghoul who Tabitha kept alive to fix her favourite robot. He appears to be a follower, as the mag says you can give him items, and also commands, such as "stay, follow or attack", and also tell him to switch to melee, in which case he'll mutter "sure, I'll put away my rather effective gun, and switch to this piece of um, metal tubing here".

# From what I read, the "all dialog" thing seems to imply there will be failures for skill checks as well as speech checks, though, as the mag states, there is no penalty for failing a skill check. In fact, the mag gives an example: A woman who the player tried a Sneak skill attempt on in conversation failed when convincing her an ambush would help the town be rid of a gang of raiders. She simply says "Good luck with your, uh, ambush"

# Vault 21 is in the game

Stolen from NEoGAF, thsi game is going to be so much better than F3.

[Great Rumbler]

Geckos! 

[pilonv1]

grey skinned super mutants = aliens

[fistfulofmetal]

hey it looks like fallout 3 whodathunk

[Great Rumbler]

hey it looks like fallout 3 whodathunk

Is anyone surprised by this? They said from the start that it would.

[fistfulofmetal]

coulda made it look superficially different than fallout 3. 'course it's only a few screenies, so i'm hoping that desert wasteland doesn't looks strangely similar to a nuclear washington dc wasteland

[Eel O'Brian]

i thought fallout 3 looked fine except for that thing where the skin tone on black people's faces looked like halle berry and their bodies looked like florida evans