Fallout: New Vegas

[pilonv1]

It seems like the majority of players posting in this thread are PC players. I assume the 360 version is a buggy mess as well, but is it an unplayable buggy mess like the pc version seems to be?

That's just fud, I've had 3 crashes in 30 hours, the only other issue is stupid companion AI which is more my own fault for trying to climb mountains near deathclaws.

[pilonv1]

New feature added by this patch - unkillable enemies!

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1139233-lol-umkillable-monsters-now/

[OptimoPeach]

How does stuff like that even happen?

[demi]

Look at how two faced that thread is... is lol

[Eel O'Brian]

PATCH

Fallout: New Vegas - Version 1.1.1
Companions now show up as waypoints on the map
Companions will always fast travel with you, unless told to wait or sent away
Fix: DLC error/save corruption
Fix: Stuttering with water effects
Fix: Severe performance issues with DirectX.
DID NOT Fix: Controls temporarily disabled after reloading Cowboy Repeater while crouched
Fixed crash using the Euclid C-Finder while having the Heave Ho perk
Fix: Entering the strip after Debt Collector causes crash and autosave corruption
Fix: Using Mojave Express dropbox can cause DLC warnings
Fixed crash when buying duplicate caravan cards from a vendor in a single transaction
Crafting menu should filter valid (bright) recipes to the top of the list
Fix: Sitting down while looking down a weapon's ironsights leaves player control locked
Fix: If a companion is knocked unconscious with broken limbs they stay broken on respawn
Fix for varmint night scope effect persisting in kill cam
Fix for giving companions armor that adds STR does not increase their carry weight
Fix NPC Repair menu displays DAM as DPS
Having NPC repair service rifle with forged receiver decreases CND

OBSIDIAN

fixed the fix list

[Eel O'Brian]

it's not fud, obsidian fucked this game up proper and the date the last patch fixing all this broken bullshit goes up is the date this game should have actually been released

[fistfulofmetal]

New feature added by this patch - unkillable enemies!

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1139233-lol-umkillable-monsters-now/

i totally encountered this earlier. but sucks for me it didnt happen with a little rad scorpion

IT HAPPENED WITH A PACK OF CAZADORES

[fistfulofmetal]

That's just fud, I've had 3 crashes in 30 hours, the only other issue is stupid companion AI which is more my own fault for trying to climb mountains near deathclaws.

i'm at 30 hours.
game has crashed around 15-20 times. plus a lot of weird glitches.

one of the weirdest glitches was during a quest to go deal with Tabitha the super mutant. the game suddenly layered a blue tint over anything. for no reason. i was just walking then everything was blue. it lasted for around 5 minutes then stopped.

[Great Rumbler]

It seems like the majority of players posting in this thread are PC players. I assume the 360 version is a buggy mess as well, but is it an unplayable buggy mess like the pc version seems to be?

That's just fud, I've had 3 crashes in 30 hours, the only other issue is stupid companion AI which is more my own fault for trying to climb mountains near deathclaws.

Yep, same here.

[cool breeze]

New Vegas crashes a lot but that is the only real problem.  I haven't had any crazy glitches or whatever.  I'd say in the ~52 hours I played, and excluding the times when I was messing with settings, it crashed around 20 times.  Most of that happened in the first few hours and crashes now are infrequent.

Compared to Fallout 3, which wasn't much better, it does run worse.

oh, and size/content wise, this is definitely much larger than Fallout 3.  I am now doing things in westside after doing a bunch in freeside, but I still haven't entered the strip and other major areas on the map (like the northwest part of the map).  Fallout 3 plus the first DLC (anchorage) was almost exactly 54 hours; New Vegas save is at 53 hours.

[Human Snorenado]

I'm basically just occasionally checking this thread and a few other places on the intertubes to find out when the game is playable... in the meantime I'm playing more DA:O Ultimate edition and ME2.  Man, seeing BioWare's output after merging/being bought by/whatever EA makes me want them to buy Bethesda too.  NO MORE BULLSHIT IN YOUR GAMES, FUCKERS!  FIX THAT SHIT BEFORE YOU SHIP IT!

[Eel O'Brian]

the new patch introduced a new glitch/bug for me:

if i reload while in vats, no further actions can be taken, it just freezes in cinematic mode for a few seconds and then flips back over to first person view, skipping over the last action (but taking away the action points as if the action occurred)

like this:

fire
fire
reload <-----freezes in cinematic
fire  <-----this never happens, but the action points are lost

thanks obsidian, nice patch

[Great Rumbler]

Well, I loaded up New Vegas and tried a few things out:

-Cowboy Repeater still has a minuscule delay between reloading and firing, not sure if that's supposed to be there or not but it no longer completely froze up for several seconds like it did before

-No unkillable monsters

-No problems with reloading in VATS

[Eel O'Brian]

i'm sure you guys aren't having problems, and that's great, but myself and a lot of others are, and we aren't just making this stuff up - there have been games i've never had a problem with that ran like dogshit for others, so i get where you're coming from

from launch this game has been everything wrong with the current pc gaming scene wrapped up in one jankyass package - unfinished, buggy, poorly coded/optimized - it defies you to enjoy it in spite of all that, you really have to work at overcoming the bad taste it leaves to get anything out of it

i forgot to mention this on the podcast, but this game has forever blemished pc gaming for one of my work friends

i invited him over at lunch to check out some of the legion stuff (particularly the nipton scene), since he's into roman history and i thought he'd get a kick out of it, plus he'd been thinking about getting into a little pc gaming based on me talking up how cheap games could be

so of course this fucking game crashed on three separate occasions (this was before the .dll and 4GB fixes) in the span of fifteen minutes

i tried telling him all pc games weren't like that, but the look on his face was one of total dismissal, and when i told him he could buy it for his ps3 he asked if it was going to "lock up like that all the time"

when companies release a game that runs like shit or doesn't run at all, people like my friend aren't gonna know what to do on their own to fix it (and they shouldn't have to, really) - they're just gonna think they bought a broken game they can't play and get pissed over having wasted $50

i would not recommend a FNV purchase at this time to anyone just getting into pc gaming, because if they bought it at my suggestion and ended up having half the shitty experience i've had with it i wouldn't blame them for being hesitant about purchasing another pc game in the future

[cool breeze]

haha, I just remembered a big problem that happens in the game.

every time the mysterious stranger shows up, the game stays in VATS and just shows him standing there for a good 30 seconds.  If there were multiple enemies, they are attacking me during this time and I can't do anything.  I totally forgot because the mysterious stranger was the latest perk I got and in general I use VATS a lot less in this game, but it has happened maybe three or four times already.

The max level is 30, right? I'm saving the "show all areas on map" perk for when I hit level 30.  Until then I've mostly just been doing the SPECIAL one.  I went with wild wasteland and the two sexy speech ones as the first ones I got.  Totally worth it.  The gay doctor in forlone hope is so hot for my weird ass looking guy.

[Great Rumbler]

i'm sure you guys aren't having problems, and that's great, but myself and a lot of others are, and we aren't just making this stuff up - there have been games i've never had a problem with that ran like dogshit for others, so i get where you're coming from

You talked about having problems with the new patch, I booted up my copy of the game and checked to see if those problems came up. They didn't, so I reported back with that information. I'm not accusing you of anything.

I can't help but think, however, that a lot of the FNV problems are being caused by some kind of weird conflict with 64-bit Windows, but I'm not going to do some in-depth study to try to figure out whether that's right or not. Not a 64-bit/32-bit issue, but L4D and L4D2 will crash every single time a game starts [or within several minutes of the start of a game] if you don't have Vista SP1 and SP2. Every single time and that took me FOREVER to figure out after I reinstalled Vista a few months ago.

[pilonv1]

But I'm using 64bit Windows, and have had minimal issues.

[pilonv1]

How the fuck do you make any money gambling with low luck? I have 5 and it's painful.

[fistfulofmetal]

How the fuck do you make any money gambling with low luck? I have 5 and it's painful.

press ~
type
player.modav luck 10


save the game
restart the game
success!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BlueTsunami]

I have 6 luck and have been having an easy time with Blackjack. Shits fun too.

[Cravis]

Wished they would fix the glitches. I have already saved the President for someone else. Now to finish up the NCR's mission at the Dam they want me to save him. I go to the Ranger to start it again but he just stands there like a tard. I can shoot him and he does nothing. 

[Eel O'Brian]

There's a place (unmarked on the map) called Deathclaw Promontory.  It's directly across the river from a small Legion camp.  As you would guess, it is cram-packed with Deathclaws, around 15, including 2 Mother Deathclaws and an Alpha Male Deathclaw.  I charged in there with Cass and with Pushy (a power fist which discharges a displacement field when you strike) equipped, and cleaned house, using up just about all of my stimpacks in the process.  So I was thinking "Man, I bet there's some awesome loot here."

3 Deathclaw eggs.

"That can't be all there is after all that trouble," I thought, and looked it up on the Fallout Wiki.  Sure enough, there is supposed to be some Remnant Power Armor, a Multi Plas rifle, and a bunch of other good stuff on some dead bodies up there.  Of course there is a glitch and the dead bodies won't show up.  I tried every workaround suggested (getting the helmet first from Silver Peak Mine - which is packed with Cazadors + a Legendar Cazador), reloading a save (which makes most of the Deathclaws magically reappear), fast-traveling away and then crossing back over.  Nothing.  The last suggestion was "if all else fails, give yourself the items via the console"

So I basically decided fuck this game, I'm gonna play it the way I want from now on so I can enjoy it.  I loaded up a Skeleton Key (opens any lock) and an Insta Hacker (hacks any terminal) mod, because fuck those minigames.  I'm gonna load up some other mods to give myself some good loot and armor.  Then I am gonna finish it as quickly as possible and forget about it for a while.  What a miserable experience.

They're never gonna fix this game, by the way.  There are too many broken things, and they're just gonna keep breaking different things while patching others.

[cool breeze]

post-patch 3 crashes in one hour 

edit: 4

[Bebpo]

Has anyone noticed any good improvements with the patch?  Every post I see about it makes it sound worse than before ^^;

Kind of glad I finished it up already before this patch hit.

[pilonv1]

How the fuck do you make any money gambling with low luck? I have 5 and it's painful.

press ~
type
player.modav luck 10


save the game
restart the game
success!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Feel like doing this, fucking wasting my time on gambling.

[fistfulofmetal]

just do it dude. the console was left in for a reason so don't feel guilty using them

but dont forget to restart the game after so you can turn achievements back on.

[pilonv1]

So how do I put them back to their original values?

[fistfulofmetal]

you mean putting your luck back to lower? why would you wanna do that? maybe putting a minus before the number? dunno really.

[Dickie Dee]

sounds like this game will be ready just about the time it hits a steam sale - convienent for me anyways

[pilonv1]

FFS I put my endurance up to 10 and I still cant have any more implants

[fistfulofmetal]

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[fistfulofmetal]

currently at hour 35. reached the level cap
should probs spoiler this.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Pretty much as soon as I reached The Strip and was given the main quests, (Confront Benny, get the Platinum Chip) which was around hour 10 or so I completely stopped and started doing side quests. I explored all around. Did quests in Freeside, Nellis, Nelson, Mohave, North Vegas, The Thorn. Jacobstown, The Khans area, etc. Went in all the Vaults. When the Explorer perk became available I picked it instantly and then started checking off all the locations. I explored nearly every cave. Dead Winds Cavern has a Legendary Deathclaw!!! I even went down the the lower right and chatted up the Legion even tho i was vilified by them. There's an awesome Sniper rifle near Cotton wood at a little location called Sniper Den. Also went into all the main casinos and did all their major quest lines. Killed off the Omuertas, stopped the cannibals at the Ultra Lux.

So 20 hours later I'm max level and decided to actually start doing the main quests. I decided to use Black Widow to sleep with Benny then kill him in his sleep to steal the chip. I used it to upgrade the securitrons then I disabled Mr. Houses cerebral control over the network and handed it over to Yes Man. Now I'm at Hoover Dam and tasked with protecting the President.

Soooo how much more stuff is there in the game? In terms of main quest lines I mean.

[close]

[Damian79]

My question is hwy are you crouching using the cowboy repeater rifle?  I can understand if you are using the sniper rifle where you NEED to be crouched to hit at a long range(also note my friend beat the game without getting hit with the sinper rifle and guass rifle) but being crouched slows you and you get raped when you do it.

[Eel O'Brian]

i can pick off dots on the horizon with the cowboy repeater

[cool breeze]

This Machine

and what I still don't get about these games is why they have different voice actors read the same dialog.  It's hilarious when two or three different people say the same line in different voices; it makes me think that the other two are just saying it to bang the first one.

[Damian79]

i can pick off dots on the horizon with the cowboy repeater

Pro-su.

[pilonv1]

WHO MAKES RIGHT CLICK DELETE A SAVE GAME?!?!

I just lost 5 hours of play because I was tapping on the mouse buttons in the save menu. Right left = lost most recent save.

This ranks as one of the stupidest things I've ever done. Might be time to shelve this and play Risen.

[Damian79]

Wait WHHHHHAAAAATTTT?  I didnt even know this, you sure you didnt press another key while right clicking?

[pilonv1]

Yeah was just mindlessly tapping on the mouse buttons and it came up with the Yes/No confirm and I hit yes thinking I was loading a game

[pilonv1]

Just found out there's an Autosave backup in the saves folder. 5 hours regained

[Great Rumbler]

Yeah was just mindlessly tapping on the mouse buttons and it came up with the Yes/No confirm and I hit yes thinking I was loading a game

[pilonv1]

I know, one of my defining moments

Luckily it's been fixed.

[cool breeze]

I think I'm almost done.  Can't say I'm happy with how things are turning out since the game really doesn't want you to be friends with everyone, or anything remotely similar.

Like,

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I was fine with doing the House quest line, but then he's like "so, you have to kill everyone in the brotherhood lol" while the yes man, legion, and NCR quests were "lol kill house lol".

hell, just doing some quests game me automatic hate from Caesar.  I'm considering going down to the fort and killing everyone just because.  I'm definitely going back to that prison and killing the guy I left alive.

[close]

[Great Rumbler]

I think I'm almost done.  Can't say I'm happy with how things are turning out since the game really doesn't want you to be friends with everyone, or anything remotely similar.

Like,

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I was fine with doing the House quest line, but then he's like "so, you have to kill everyone in the brotherhood lol" while the yes man, legion, and NCR quests were "lol kill house lol".

hell, just doing some quests game me automatic hate from Caesar.  I'm considering going down to the fort and killing everyone just because.  I'm definitely going back to that prison and killing the guy I left alive.

[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)

It's Vegas, for every winner there's a loser.

[close]

[demi]

Why does everyone want to be friends with everyone in a game about decisions. It wouldnt be a game about decisions. Pick a fukkin side.

[Great Rumbler]

Yeah, this isn't Oblivion where you can be the head of the Fighters Guild, the Mages Guild, the Thieves Guild, and the Assassins Guild all at the same time. Come on.

[Eel O'Brian]

I would have liked if there had been at least one clear cut "good guy" faction.  Everyone's a fucking asshole in this game.

[cool breeze]

I would rather extend an open hand than a closed fist 




unless you're hostile towards me, in which case the close fist goes straight up your ass, and then it becomes an open hand 

I would have liked if there had been at least one clear cut "good guy" faction.  Everyone's a fucking asshole in this game.

yeah, that's what I would have wanted.

The followers seem like a bunch of cool dudes but they aren't deemed important enough.

I don't even mean that I want them to be super nice and fart flowers.  They all make me want to kill someone else for one reason or another.  The worst is

spoiler (click to show/hide)

with House and the Brotherhood.

"I talked to the brotherhood, they're cool with us"
-" I don't care, still kill them"
"but they'll help"
-"I don't care"
"they can restore you to full health!"
-"I don't care"
"fuck you old man"
-"ARGH.....WHY....COULD....HAVE....ASKED"

oh fuck off limited dialog choices

[close]

[Great Rumbler]

I would have liked if there had been at least one clear cut "good guy" faction.  Everyone's a fucking asshole in this game.

There is.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Yourself. Take out Mr. House, drive off Caesar, kick out the NCR, help the Great Kahns find their glory again, fix the problems at Jacobstown, and bring the Brotherhood back into the world again.

[close]

[pilonv1]

I would have liked if there had been at least one clear cut "good guy" faction.  Everyone's a fucking asshole in this game.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I figure that doing it yourself is the good guy route.

[close]

If you start siding with anyone you realise they're all assholes and you're constantly reminded because not only are they all assholes, everyone hates everyone else for some stupid reason.

I would have liked a peaceful option for a high intelligence/high speech character. Seems stupid that you can sweet talk your way through 90% of the game and you get to the end and you can't do anything.

[Great Rumbler]

I would have liked if there had been at least one clear cut "good guy" faction.  Everyone's a fucking asshole in this game.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I figure that doing it yourself is the good guy route.

[close]

If you start siding with anyone you realise they're all assholes and you're constantly reminded because not only are they all assholes, everyone hates everyone else for some stupid reason.

I would have liked a peaceful option for a high intelligence/high speech character. Seems stupid that you can sweet talk your way through 90% of the game and you get to the end and you can't do anything.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I sweet talked my way past Caesar's Legate and the NCR general.

[close]

[cool breeze]

I would have liked if there had been at least one clear cut "good guy" faction.  Everyone's a fucking asshole in this game.

There is.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Yourself. Take out Mr. House, drive off Caesar, kick out the NCR, help the Great Kahns find their glory again, fix the problems at Jacobstown, and bring the Brotherhood back into the world again.

[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'm doing that path and you still need to kill quite a few people to make it happen.

You can't even convince yourself to not be an asshole in this game!

[close]

It isn't a major problem.  This game is still amazing and probably goty or something.  Alpha Protocol did a better job with the choices and dealing with different factions.  Then again, everything kinda crashes at the end too since it needs to wrap up; the middle bits where it was more open was really great.  These games always seem to have problems in the end.

[fistfulofmetal]

i'm at the point where the hoover dam battle is the next quest so i'm pretty much at the end i think

here's how i see it when it comes to who's who and who i sides with:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I decided the second I encountered him that Yes Man was the only option for me. I felt siding with him would lead to an "Independence" New Vegas. Having one Big Brother esque master like Mr. House was def not what I would want for this world. At the same time I haven't been screwing over the NCR because I do think having some form of army is necessary as long as they don't run the show. I'm willing to bet that's now how it will actually go down but going in this was my intention.

[close]

[pilonv1]

Vault 11

I hope no one skipped it.

[cool breeze]

I was just thinking about how the few graphics things that really annoy in Fallout 3 and NV are the way clothing reacts and the complete lack of cool weather or wind.

Duster sand other long coats in these games basically past the long goat the back of your character's legs and it looks ridiculous.  Coming from Mafia 2 and RDR, both those games have really nice clothing movement.  That and no wind or weather ever affects anything.  It's one of the great things in the STALKER games and helps make the world feel much more alive, especially when they make you take cover inside during some events.

Those two things annoy me more than the terrible animations, ugly characters, etc etc.  If/when there is a Fallout 4, or if they do ESV before it, I really hope they step up the feeling of being in a living world.  And don't make everything so flat or have large hills only act as blockades.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

I would have liked if there had been at least one clear cut "good guy" faction.  Everyone's a fucking asshole in this game.

There is.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Yourself. Take out Mr. House, drive off Caesar, kick out the NCR, help the Great Kahns find their glory again, fix the problems at Jacobstown, and bring the Brotherhood back into the world again.

[close]

Doesn't this path lead to New Vegas turning into a chaotic mess?

[Great Rumbler]

I would have liked if there had been at least one clear cut "good guy" faction.  Everyone's a fucking asshole in this game.

There is.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Yourself. Take out Mr. House, drive off Caesar, kick out the NCR, help the Great Kahns find their glory again, fix the problems at Jacobstown, and bring the Brotherhood back into the world again.

[close]

Doesn't this path lead to New Vegas turning into a chaotic mess?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Not unless you destroy the bunker filled with updated security bots, I suppose.

[close]

[cool breeze]

Done!

68 hours! Really long game and I didn't even visit 100% of everything or try to get all the endings.  Probably the longest single playthrough of a game since Morrowind in 2002; it didn't even drag as much as Fallout 3 did near the end.

The ending I got turned out fine for the most part. 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Basically I got the NCR and Legion out of there and made it independent.  There was some chaos, but for the most part things seemed for the better.  Only thing I regret is not killing the powder gangers since they continued to cause problems.  Mr. House was gone too, so, yeah.

[close]

probably goty for me

oh, and hardcore mode ain't shit.  The only thing that was meaningfully different for me was that ammo had weight; all that meant is I would stock up each time I returned to one of my many homes.  The limb thing? maybe.  But it costs 50 caps and in one area a guy heals you for free, so no big deal.

[Stoney Mason]

Taken from a GAF thread.

Fallout: New Vegas DLC coming December 21st exclusively to Xbox 360! It's called "Dead Money." Here's the details: As the victim of a raw deal you must work alongside three other captured wastelanders to recover the legendary treasure of the Sierra Madre Casino. In Dead Money, your life hangs in the balance as you face new terrain, foes, and choices. It is up to you how you play your cards in the quest to survive

[Great Rumbler]

And since it's a Steamworks game, there's no fiddling with GFWL to purchase, download, and play the DLC!