Explain to me why we can't have public health care?

[The Fake Shemp]

 

[Powerslave]

because the public doesnt care about your health






oh snap!

[TVC15]

You used to be a Republican.  It's all your people's fault

[Madrun Badrun]

Because fat people would be to much of a burden for the system.  You are ruining it for the rest of us Wilco.

[Rman]

The insurance and pharmaceutical lobbies.

[Kestastrophe]

Because social security is going to be bankrupt in 8 years

[Human Snorenado]

The insurance and pharmaceutical lobbies.

pretty much this

[Oblivion]

Because then who would provide health care to the private sector?  :'(

[Positive Touch]

because the government would run it and they can't do ANYTHING right*


*only applies when a democrat is in the wh

[Eel O'Brian]

because someone has to pay for it

[Robo]

[Human Snorenado]

because someone has to pay for it

i really wish we had the same policy for our defense spending and wars and such

[Eel O'Brian]

but killing people is fun, and lessens the burden on worldwide health care

[The Fake Shemp]

I don't understand why public health care is not feasible and furthermore, why Senator Baucus says single-payer is off the table.

Theoretically, wouldn't public health care be beneficial to companies?  If everyone is insured, that means less labor hours lost and a more productive, healthy work force?

[TVC15]

because someone has to pay for it

i really wish we had the same policy for our defense spending and wars and such

We could also save a LOT of money by offering inmates the option to take a suicide pill rather than serve their prison sentence.  I bet a significant portion of them would take that option.  Of course, we could also save a lot of prison money by eliminating lots of harmless crimes and mandatory minimum sentencing.

[Eel O'Brian]

or making soylent green

[The Fake Shemp]

When someone goes to the emergency room and is uninsured, who pays for that nowadays?

[TVC15]

When someone goes to the emergency room and is uninsured, who pays for that nowadays?

Looking at my medical bills from February, apparently I do.  Or I guess my insurance company, once they finally own up and admit that they have to pay, the cunts.  US health care isn't good even if you have good insurance because the companies niggle and put off everything they can.

[Eel O'Brian]

we could also do without $25 paper slippers and $10 single-dose tylenol

[The Fake Shemp]

The point I'm driving home is that someone has to absorb those costs and my guess is it's probably the hospital and taxpayers.  Imagine how many uninsured emergency room visits could be avoided if people had access to public, preventative health care.

[Human Snorenado]

I don't understand why public health care is not feasible and furthermore, why Senator Baucus says single-payer is off the table.

It is feasible, as demonstrated by dozens of first world countries and fucking CUBA.  CUBA.  He says it's off the table because that's what he's payed to do.

Theoretically, wouldn't public health care be beneficial to companies?  If everyone is insured, that means less labor hours lost and a more productive, healthy work force?

You would think so, but health care is one way for a company to hold onto employees, enabling them to treat their employees like shit.  Who wants to quit if your health care is paying for expensive prescriptions and regular doctor visits for you or a family member?  If you decide that maybe you would rather try another career or whatever, you lose your health care and when you qualify at the new place however many months down the road, guess what?  You or your family member has a "pre-existing condition" and it sucks to be you.

[Oblivion]

When someone goes to the emergency room and is uninsured, who pays for that nowadays?

Looking at my medical bills from February, apparently I do.  Or I guess my insurance company, once they finally own up and admit that they have to pay, the cunts.  US health care isn't good even if you have good insurance because the companies niggle and put off everything they can.

$750 for an ambulance ride around these parts.

[pilonv1]

because all americans are filthly poors

[Rman]

When someone goes to the emergency room and is uninsured, who pays for that nowadays?

Hospitals eat those costs. They can do this because insurance payments provide enough margin to cover those losses.  In the case of public health care facilities the costs can be passed on by local and municipal taxes.

One of the major problems with the health care is lack of any cost controls, like other industries.  I'm not talking about turning down the poor and uninsured.  But I remember reading a report in one newspaper about how medical equipment companies receive no bid contracts with hospitals almost exclusively thoughout the industry.  This is very anti competitive and keeps hospitals from getting the best value.  Same with the pharmaceutical companies.  

[Brehvolution]

Paying into private insurance is free market.
Paying into government insurance is TEH SOCIALISM!!!!!11

Think about this statement: The health care lobby is "willing" to cut $2Trillion in costs over the next 10 years if the Fed doesn't create it's own solution. Aren't they essentially bribing against free market?

[Fragamemnon]

We can't have it because private industry couldn't compete with a government non-profit given an equal playing field-the government would be able to leverage administrative efficiencies and price leveraging due to the size of their insured base that no private firm could match.

So instead of going with a public option that kills off private insurers in a brutally free market fashion, instead we come up with a shittier solution that is massaged to protect private insurers from the cost-saving, more efficient option.

I don't think anything Baucus or the Senate wants is going to matter in the end. President Obama and the House of Representatives have way more leverage on this compared to the average piece of legislation due to the reconciliation process by which the plan is to be passed.  They can just basically bully half of the conservative dems to voting for it if needed.

[brawndolicious]

we could also do without $25 paper slippers and $10 single-dose tylenol

My mom got a bandage that required krazy glue on it.  They charged $45 for a $1.50 tube.  There's probably a huge market in marking up this stuff in a different package.

[drew]

willco used to be a republican?

it all makes sense now

[The Fake Shemp]

I am still a registered Republican.

[drew]

my dad told me to never trust a republican under 30

he is a republican

[ToxicAdam]

I think the best answer is to keep it the way it is, but have the government be a strict, price control entity.

[trippingmartian]

Your country's fear of taxes is a good place to start.

[Mandark]

Theoretically, wouldn't public health care be beneficial to companies?  If everyone is insured, that means less labor hours lost and a more productive, healthy work force?

Walter Reuther, the head of United Auto Workers back in the day, was a big proponent of universal coverage.  He tried to recruit the Big 3 to help lobby for the cause.  In return they'd be let off the hook for their workers' health costs.

They decided to keep the government out of it and foot the bill for workers and retirees themselves.  It's worked out super-great for them.

[Dickie Dee]

Alot of it is CEOs are just professional assholes that get paid tons to be assholes, so when they see UHC they just instinctively reacted against it, even though unless you're heading an HMO or part of Big Pharma, it was just like they were slowly cutting their own wrists.

[Cyanista]

This is why we can't have nice things!!!

[Tauntaun]

Think about it, if everyone was living longer we'd be in worse shape financially! 

[Phoenix Dark]

I don't understand why public health care is not feasible and furthermore, why Senator Baucus says single-payer is off the table.

It is feasible, as demonstrated by dozens of first world countries and fucking CUBA.  CUBA.  He says it's off the table because that's what he's payed to do.

Find me a country that has it and also has 300milly people. smh

I've had enough socialism, I can't wait for 2012. Palin has some ideas

[FlameOfCallandor]

Explain to me why the federal government can't give us all one million dollars.

 

[FlameOfCallandor]

Explain to me why I have to wipe my own ass when I take a dump.

 

[brawndolicious]

How many people in America do you think would get $1 million dollars of health coverage in their lifetime if there was a UHC system?

[FlameOfCallandor]

Explain to me why I have to go to work?

 

[Human Snorenado]

Explain to me why capitalism failed so spectacularly last September?

[Flannel Boy]

Explain to me why the federal government can't give us all one million dollars.

 

Are there any differences between health care and large, absurd sums of cash?

nevermind

[Mandark]

Explain to me why I have to go to work?

 

Those dicks ain't gonna suck themselves.


Heyooooooooooooooooooo!

[Flannel Boy]

 

[Oblivion]

When someone goes to the emergency room and is uninsured, who pays for that nowadays?

Looking at my medical bills from February, apparently I do.  Or I guess my insurance company, once they finally own up and admit that they have to pay, the cunts.  US health care isn't good even if you have good insurance because the companies niggle and put off everything they can.

$750 for an ambulance ride around these parts.

Actually, speaking of the subject, why the hell does this happen anyway? Aren't some of my tax dollars supposed to be going towards medical emergencies anyway?

[Bloodwake]

Explain to me why I have to go to work?

 

Those dicks ain't gonna suck themselves.


Heyooooooooooooooooooo!

Wow, legendary.

[Phoenix Dark]

Explain to me why I have to go to work?

 

Those dicks ain't gonna suck themselves.


Heyooooooooooooooooooo!

game over man, game over

[Loki]

Those dicks ain't gonna suck themselves.


Heyooooooooooooooooooo!

[The Fake Shemp]

Explain to me why I have to go to work?

 

Those dicks ain't gonna suck themselves.


Heyooooooooooooooooooo!

Free market wins again.