Author Topic: Nintendo is rehashing the Metroid Prime games. (Read 2771 times)

archie4208 · « **on:** May 22, 2009, 01:47:37 PM »

At least $50 for all 3 games (even with inferior controls) is a good deal.

demi · « **Reply #1 on:** May 22, 2009, 01:48:02 PM »

um, no it's not

archie4208 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 22, 2009, 01:49:13 PM »

By Nintendo's standards it is. They could have easily rereleased Prime 1 and 2 for 30 bucks each and an army of Ninthings would have ate it up.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #3 on:** May 22, 2009, 01:52:26 PM »

This is a fantastic deal, don't listen to the losers who will come in here and bitch about it.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #4 on:** May 22, 2009, 01:55:28 PM »

I have to wonder if a dual layered disc is going to ruin load times. But yes, awesome news.I'm mostly interested because of prime 1, but there were things about Corruption I enjoyed.
Fucking friend vouchers are still in. >:[

cool breeze · « **Reply #5 on:** May 22, 2009, 02:01:42 PM »

can I just buy Metroid Prime 2 on it's own for $20 or do I need to buy all 3?

demi · « **Reply #6 on:** May 22, 2009, 02:03:39 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on May 22, 2009, 02:01:42 PM

can I just buy Metroid Prime 2 on it's own for $20 or do I need to buy all 3?

Here's an even better deal: MP1 & 2 for $9

http://cgi.ebay.com/Metroid-Prime-1-and-2-Echoes-Gamecube-GC_W0QQitemZ180358616157QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games_Games?hash=item29fe36145d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

demi · « **Reply #7 on:** May 22, 2009, 02:05:41 PM »

Even included a Gamecube for ya

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nintendo-Gamecube-System-Metroid-Prime-1-2-Echoes_W0QQitemZ250426014746QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games?hash=item3a4e8dbc1a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2009, 02:27:50 PM »

I don't really see the appeal in pointer controls in MP1 and 2. MP3 changed the type of enemies you fought to make pointing worthwhile, and I enjoyed the other motion shit you could do like pulling shields off. In MP1 and 2 you'll be pointing at the ground, shooting bugs.

At least this isn't a blatant ripoff like the other bullshit port-ups. MP3 is still full price afaik.

No buy

BTW, MP2 sucks

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2009, 02:29:16 PM »

MP2 pissed me off so much and made me feel dumb.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10 on:** May 22, 2009, 03:15:58 PM »

I've played and beaten all three MP games, but I have a feeling that I'll cave and in and buy this collection. $:-\$

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #11 on:** May 22, 2009, 05:42:52 PM »

yeah but i have to own a wii to play it

shitty ass deal.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #12 on:** May 22, 2009, 06:59:46 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 22, 2009, 03:15:58 PM

I've played and beaten all three MP games, but I have a feeling that I'll cave and in and buy this collection. $:-\$

lol, why

yeah Ive beaten all 3 also. I really like the Prime games, Im not sure why the opinion is so divided on them

archie4208 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 22, 2009, 07:01:47 PM »

Cube:

Wii:

Looks worse

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14 on:** May 22, 2009, 07:07:07 PM »

No, pretty much looks just the same. The Gamecube picture is the fucking darkest and blurriest pos shot ever.

Diunx · « **Reply #15 on:** May 22, 2009, 07:16:16 PM »

I saw prime 1 for 8 bucks the last time I was in the states, that was in 2006.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #16 on:** May 22, 2009, 07:16:53 PM »

it's also nearly seven years old, of course its ugly. Not to mention the Sun Chamber was the least impressive area in the entire game.

I mean come on:

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #17 on:** May 22, 2009, 07:19:22 PM »

Well if we're gonna get into that argument

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #18 on:** May 23, 2009, 12:05:25 AM »

Halo 1 fucking rocks and looks better on an HDTV than any Wii game

OK, except Galaxy and Corruption

pilonv1 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 23, 2009, 12:21:05 AM »

three shit games for $50. how is that a deal? plus they're on wii. seems like a combination for failure

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #20 on:** May 23, 2009, 12:55:16 AM »

OMG THE ATMOSPHERE IS JUST DRIPPING OFF THE SCREEN!!!

Sorry, I wasn't 12 years old when this game was released. I had an attuned sense of taste by that time.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #21 on:** May 23, 2009, 01:01:03 AM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on May 23, 2009, 12:05:25 AM

Halo 1 fucking rocks and looks better on an HDTV than any Wii game

OK, except Galaxy and Corruption

Halo looks like an old PC game with the settings turned down low. Whenever I play it I get all nostalgic for the X-Wing PC game.

Hollywood · « **Reply #22 on:** May 23, 2009, 01:05:00 AM »

I really liked Metroid Prime, but had no desire to play it again or the sequels. Dunno why. I'm not really in to first person games, and it pissed me off in this game that once you cleared a room and went back into it (which you do a lot) that the enemies regenerated. No feeling of reward when you went through some of these annoying fucking enemies.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #23 on:** May 23, 2009, 01:31:27 AM »

Quote

Sorry, I wasn't 12 years old when this game was released. I had an attuned sense of taste by that time.

I, however, was, so :'(

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #24 on:** May 23, 2009, 02:24:01 AM »

Quote from: Scenester on May 22, 2009, 06:59:46 PM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 22, 2009, 03:15:58 PM
I've played and beaten all three MP games, but I have a feeling that I'll cave and in and buy this collection. $:-\$

lol, why

Because I'm wasteful with money.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #25 on:** May 23, 2009, 02:35:54 AM »

They should've did this with pikmin. I skipped on Pikmin 1 npc because I knew 2 should come some day. I'd have no ptoblem picking them both up for $50 on one disc.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #26 on:** May 23, 2009, 02:36:42 AM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on May 23, 2009, 12:55:16 AM

OMG THE ATMOSPHERE IS JUST DRIPPING OFF THE SCREEN!!!

Sorry, I wasn't 12 years old when this game was released. I had an attuned sense of taste by that time.

Or you're a jaded old man?

cool breeze · « **Reply #27 on:** May 23, 2009, 03:15:54 AM »

Quote from: demi on May 22, 2009, 02:05:41 PM

Even included a Gamecube for ya

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nintendo-Gamecube-System-Metroid-Prime-1-2-Echoes_W0QQitemZ250426014746QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games?hash=item3a4e8dbc1a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

yeah, but I really just want 2 so I can see if I ignored it because it was bad or because I had better games like Halo 2, MGS3 and San Andreas to play. I enjoyed the first and third game.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #28 on:** May 23, 2009, 05:11:04 AM »

Best game of that generation.

Suck it.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #29 on:** May 23, 2009, 11:54:18 AM »

Quote from: swaggaz on May 23, 2009, 03:15:54 AM

Quote from: demi on May 22, 2009, 02:05:41 PM
Even included a Gamecube for ya

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nintendo-Gamecube-System-Metroid-Prime-1-2-Echoes_W0QQitemZ250426014746QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games?hash=item3a4e8dbc1a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

yeah, but I really just want 2 so I can see if I ignored it because it was bad or because I had better games like Halo 2, MGS3 and San Andreas to play. I enjoyed the first and third game.

2 sucks, don't even bother. It's nonstop fetchquests across two versions of the same fairly boring environments.

It's one thing to have to backtrack to get the Space Jump, it's another to have to repeatedly backtrack to find 3 magic keys to open a boss door.

cool breeze · « **Reply #30 on:** May 23, 2009, 12:16:10 PM »

I do remember the light world dark world thing. I stopped playing when I just went to the dark world or something like that. I don't remember if I hated it so much or if I just wanted to play the better games that came out. I'll give it another shot on the Wii since I do think the MP3 controls are much better than the gamecube ones.

archie4208 · « **Reply #31 on:** May 23, 2009, 12:22:52 PM »

Quote from: Borys on May 23, 2009, 11:10:30 AM

Quote from: demi on May 22, 2009, 02:03:39 PM
Quote from: swaggaz on May 22, 2009, 02:01:42 PM
can I just buy Metroid Prime 2 on it's own for $20 or do I need to buy all 3?

Here's an even better deal: MP1 & 2 for $9

http://cgi.ebay.com/Metroid-Prime-1-and-2-Echoes-Gamecube-GC_W0QQitemZ180358616157QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games_Games?hash=item29fe36145d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

archie annihilated...

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #32 on:** May 23, 2009, 12:52:25 PM »

It had better all of those, yes, Borys, but the sum of its parts wasn't better than Metroid Prime's. Regardless of all those things, you STILL had to collect a bunch of shit through tiresome methods.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #33 on:** May 23, 2009, 04:11:01 PM »

2 is just boooooring. Prime is a little booring with great immersive qualities and catchy music. Corruption is probably the most fun but in the process shits on what Metroid is by adding stupid story elements and Shitty Friends.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #34 on:** May 23, 2009, 04:35:05 PM »

the shitty friends thing last for like 30 minutes. That's a horribly overstated "issue."

brawndolicious · « **Reply #35 on:** May 23, 2009, 05:47:14 PM »

Metroid Prime 1 was a great game. Weird concepts that made the learning curve enormously high but the thought of adding waggle mechanics into it makes no sense. It's my favorite game ever but I'll stick to the non-broken lamepube version.

Besides, there's nothing really to add to the combat as the enemy patterns would make it totally unintuitive to try and shoot them with a wiimote. It's mainly an exploration type of game so this rehash is just nintendo gouging it's fanbase.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #36 on:** May 23, 2009, 07:26:29 PM »

Quote from: Borys on May 23, 2009, 12:31:22 PM

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on May 23, 2009, 11:54:18 AM
Quote from: swaggaz on May 23, 2009, 03:15:54 AM
Quote from: demi on May 22, 2009, 02:05:41 PM
Even included a Gamecube for ya

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nintendo-Gamecube-System-Metroid-Prime-1-2-Echoes_W0QQitemZ250426014746QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games?hash=item3a4e8dbc1a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

yeah, but I really just want 2 so I can see if I ignored it because it was bad or because I had better games like Halo 2, MGS3 and San Andreas to play. I enjoyed the first and third game.

2 sucks, don't even bother. It's nonstop fetchquests across two versions of the same fairly boring environments.

It's one thing to have to backtrack to get the Space Jump, it's another to have to repeatedly backtrack to find 3 magic keys to open a boss door.

I cannot agree with you.

Echoes was everything that was good about Prime EXCEPT atmosphere and "OMG! IT'S METROID IN 3D" factor only 10 times better.

Much better boss fights, much better morphball puzzles (even morphball bosses!), better graphics and better music.

Honestly tell me that you didn't like Sanctuary Fortress or Quadraxis fight. Best moments of Echoes were easily better than best moments of Prime.

It was harder too. Prime even on hard mode with 3 tanks only run was easy. Echoes isn't.

I didn't get that far. I got up to the second or third time they made me backtrack for the purple keys and I dropped it. I think it was about 8 hours in or so.

Third · « **Reply #37 on:** May 23, 2009, 07:52:33 PM »

Great value.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #38 on:** May 23, 2009, 08:02:24 PM »

Quote

Metroid Prime 1 was a great game. Weird concepts that made the learning curve enormously high but the thought of adding waggle mechanics into it makes no sense. It's my favorite game ever but I'll stick to the non-broken lamepube version.

I don't think you know what waggle is mang

This is not waggle, it's the pointer functionality, a HUUUUGE improvement over the well-working yet slow process of movement and aiming in the GCN version.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #39 on:** May 23, 2009, 08:40:05 PM »

To fight even the most basic enemy in the first game you had to have pinpoint accuracy and the ability to do 180 degree turns. The aiming mechanics were simple because they HAD to be, since the time window you had to hit any enemies was so small and because you had to be able to switch beam types and visor types so you couldn't react fast enough to use right stick aiming. Corruption is totally since any enemy that actually tried to attack you just had a pretty simple circle-strafe patterns or something that you see in most shooting game bosses.

Trying to do any of the old boss battles with a wiimote will be a nightmare actually. I liked 1 and 3 (didn't play 2) but they have totally different controls for a reason.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #40 on:** May 24, 2009, 02:06:35 AM »

they don't play any differently other than having a freer window of perception in MP3. You still lock on to enemies in MP3 for a reason.

twerd · « **Reply #41 on:** May 24, 2009, 03:46:41 AM »

Didn't play the first two, and have no interest in the non-aiming GC controls so I'll probably fall for this one. Fuck you, Nintendo.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #42 on:** May 24, 2009, 02:22:26 PM »

MP is sort of like hard math homework. A problem might totally stomp you, making you move on to some other problem only to be stumped again. But when you finally "get it" your brain turns on and you blow through shit at crazy speeds, feeling totally exhilarated - before getting stuck again.

I never played MP3 but the first two really have some awesome parts in between annoying puzzles and minuscule, hidden areas of the environment that unlock shit. $:-\$

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #43 on:** May 24, 2009, 03:29:00 PM »

I'll admit I had fun with the original. Completed it 100%

If I had a Wii, I'd probably buy it once it is discounted.

SantaC · « **Reply #44 on:** May 24, 2009, 08:03:06 PM »

why should i be excited for old games that have been available for years? Is it a new thing that old games in a new package are exciting?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #45 on:** May 24, 2009, 08:16:29 PM »

It's the fact that you're basically getting two complete and generally considered fantastic games for free, and a third installment to boot. Each two have a new control scheme that helps, not hinders, the gameplay.

I mean, if you already have the two before this, than yeah, why would you buy this? Unless you're like me and wouldn't mind having them all on one disc. I'll probably trade in each of the entries and put money down for this.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #46 on:** May 24, 2009, 08:18:53 PM »

Free aiming doesn't actually add anything but not being able to easily change visors and beams is really bad. Without the right combination of visors or beams, it's impossible to see or do any damage to certain enemies. Especially for boss battles, using a wiimote just won't work at all.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #47 on:** May 24, 2009, 09:52:47 PM »

And uh, you're judging it before you've played it. Most everyone who played the Japanese release of NPC Metroid Prime said it works even better.

tiesto · « **Reply #48 on:** May 25, 2009, 03:09:53 AM »

I played the first one, thought it was really boring, didn't bother with the others... hopefully this re-release is to build up the anticipation for an amazing DS 2D Metroid extravaganza made by R&D1 or IntSys, but that's wishful thinking on my end.

SantaC · « **Reply #49 on:** May 25, 2009, 10:01:24 AM »

Metrod Prime 3 was shit. Not worth playing.

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