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Re: Lost Planet 2 trailer | Heavy Rain trailer
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2009, 09:42:50 PM »
Lost Planet 2 still looking incredible :bow
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2009, 09:44:44 PM »
I still don't get what Heavy Rain is. They have certainly crafted some great atmosphere there, but I don't get much beyond that.

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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2009, 09:52:25 PM »
I still don't get what Heavy Rain is. They have certainly crafted some great atmosphere there, but I don't get much beyond that.

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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2009, 09:55:41 PM »
Heavy Rain  :lol

Lost Planet :hyper

Can't be said any better.
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2009, 09:55:50 PM »
I don't know why the fuck anyone would want to play Heavy Rain if they've already gone through Indigo Prophecy.  That alone should warn people to steer clear.
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2009, 08:54:14 AM »
I don't know why the fuck anyone would want to play Heavy Rain if they've already gone through Indigo Prophecy.  That alone should warn people to steer clear.
Why exactly?  A lot of people loved Indigo Prophecy and this seems to be improving upon many of its weaknesses.

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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2009, 09:08:59 AM »
I don't know why the fuck anyone would want to play Heavy Rain if they've already gone through Indigo Prophecy.  That alone should warn people to steer clear.
Why exactly?  A lot of people loved Indigo Prophecy and this seems to be improving upon many of its weaknesses.

Or not learning from them.
They clearly have made significant improvements, though.

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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2009, 10:36:23 AM »
I don't know why the fuck anyone would want to play Heavy Rain if they've already gone through Indigo Prophecy.  That alone should warn people to steer clear.
Why exactly?  A lot of people loved Indigo Prophecy and this seems to be improving upon many of its weaknesses.

Or not learning from them.
They clearly have made significant improvements, though.

But then they go and fuck up what could have been an awesome thriller story by putting fucking SUPER SUNGLASSES in.
How does that fuck things up?  Seems like a decent gameplay mechanic for a graphic adventure.  I'd imagine the character shown in the recent footage is the only one who uses such technology as well.  I don't see why that would be a game breaker.

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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2009, 11:02:55 AM »
That's not what ruined Indigo at all, though.  The story still seems generally grounded in reality despite those glasses which was NOT the case with Indigo.

You're getting worked up over nothing.

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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2009, 11:14:14 AM »
The strong sexual angles in Heavy Rain come off as really forced. HOW FAR WILL YOU GO? WILL YOU STRIP IN FRONT OF FAT MAN?
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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2009, 11:15:59 AM »
glasses are dumb but the game looks great
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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2009, 11:19:39 AM »
I don't think I am. You just already decided this game will be awesome, so you'll just keep defending it. And I decided I won't play it so what's the point.
You're going to skip it for that reason?  Really?  Did you HATE Indigo Prophecy?  I don't know if it will be awesome or not, but I'm not going to make that call until I play it.  I thought IP was a solid little game that ultimately had a poor ending.  The experience was good enough overall, however, that I want to try this other game.

Those glasses absolutely do not represent any of the problems with the first title.  We still have similar type of adventuring here, a story that is more grounded in reality, better QTE sequences (the Simon game thing was pretty bad), and a solid presentation.  I expect it to at least be a reasonably interesting experience.

I just find it odd that people are writing it off because OMG they use some matrix glasses!!111

dark1x

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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2009, 11:41:04 AM »
I don't think I am. You just already decided this game will be awesome, so you'll just keep defending it. And I decided I won't play it so what's the point.
You're going to skip it for that reason?  Really?  Did you HATE Indigo Prophecy?  I don't know if it will be awesome or not, but I'm not going to make that call until I play it.  I thought IP was a solid little game that ultimately had a poor ending.  The experience was good enough overall, however, that I want to try this other game.

Those glasses absolutely do not represent any of the problems with the first title.  We still have similar type of adventuring here, a story that is more grounded in reality, better QTE sequences (the Simon game thing was pretty bad), and a solid presentation.  I expect it to at least be a reasonably interesting experience.

I just find it odd that people are writing it off because OMG they use some matrix glasses!!111

lol jesus
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2009, 01:50:59 PM »
must...defend...ps3^H^H^H..xclusi^H^H^H^H^H^H...the...hive...
No, it's actually a damn shame that it IS a PS3 exclusive game simply because it seems to attract more negative attention.

If someone hated Indigo Prophecy, I could see them having little interest in this, but I still wouldn't write it off completely.

An example might be that I absolutely HATED the original Far Cry.  It was a terrible, shitty, broken game that just happened to feature great visuals.  If I had taken the same attitude demonstrated here, I would have missed out on Crysis, which was actually one of my favorite shooters of the last decade.  The initial showings of the game made it seem as if it would be more Far Cry with better visuals, but in the end, the game was significantly better and quite different overall.

I simply find it odd that so many people write things off so quickly.

It is a shame that Heavy Rain has lost some of its visual appeal, however.  Of course, this is pretty much par for the course with this company.  Omikron and Indigo Prophecy were hardly cutting edge games (visually speaking).

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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2009, 01:55:43 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2009, 01:57:52 PM »
For some reason, I've put Alan Wake and Heavy Rain in my head as similar and competing for my interest. Alan Wake doesn't have QTEs :bow2
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« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2009, 03:38:43 PM »
LP2 looks awesome.
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« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2009, 03:41:10 PM »
The Gamespot live demo was fucking crazy. Made the giant worm thing in Gears 2 seem real lame.

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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2009, 03:43:58 PM »
did anyone see the gamespot video? I hope it goes up again soon.

That one boss they showed in trailers (the giant salamander) was considered to be the smallest boss in the game.  Yet even though it was the smallest, they showed that you could actually zip line into it's mouth, walk through it's belly, shoot it's insides and jump out of his ass.  This isn't like Gears 2 or God of War where it's another environment.  Other people can still be shooting it on the outside while you walk inside of the monster.

 

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« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2009, 04:04:36 PM »
WHERE IS MY DEMO CAPCOM

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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2009, 10:21:02 AM »
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No, it's actually a damn shame that it IS a PS3 exclusive game simply because it seems to attract more negative attention.

 ::) this statement again?!

and the overhype of every PS3 exclusive game should surely counteract the noisy xbots who sony aren't selling to anyways.

OK, so I suppose the reality is simply that, when a game becomes an exclusive, it receives both more positive AND negative attention.  Can you agree with that?  My interest in Heavy Rain did not change as a result of its exclusivity as I loved both of the previous titles created by Quantic Dream.  Played both of them on the PC as well.  If anything, this becoming an exclusive it a bit of a negative in that I won't be able to enjoy smooth 60 fps performance.

Both of their previous games had plenty of issues, however, and I do not recall such negativity being thrown around.  When Heavy Rain became an exclusive, however, all sides suddenly began to examine it much more closely.  I'm sure that is due in part to the success of Fahrenheit, of course, but let's not pretend that its exclusivity has nothing to do with the how people are viewing this title.

I enjoy the fact that they are still working within the graphic adventure genre.  I have wonderful memories of such games when I was younger and it is exciting to see attempts at keeping the genre alive.  I appreciate what companies like Telltale are doing, but they are sticking entirely to the old formula while Quantic Dream has been working on creating something a bit different for the past decade.
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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2009, 11:35:23 AM »
Are you developing this game? If not, why can't you just enjoy it when it comes out? Why do you need to make sure everyone else is as hyped for it as you are?
I think you're mis-reading my intentions with these posts.  It's not really that I think more people should be hyped, rather, I'm interested in how perceptions change depending on the platform a game is going to be released on.

However, if you want to look at it that way, what makes your approach (slamming the game) any different from someone who is hyping it?  It seems more logical that someone interested in something would be talking about it prior to release while someone who has no interest in it would not participate at all.

That doesn't happen, however, as people enjoy arguing on the internet.  Nothing wrong with that either.  If nothing negative were being said, there wouldn't be much point in posting in the thread to begin with.  These threads only become interesting when people start disagreeing.
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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2009, 01:16:25 PM »
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If you saw a movie, and 2/3 of it was awesome, but the last 3rd was utterly terrible, I doubt you be harping the film's praises. You have to deliver. You have to end as strong as you started or even stronger.
Ehh, I don't know, there are movies which fit that description which I still love.  Sunshine is kind of like that.  The ending wasn't what I wanted, necessarily, but the first 2/3 of the movie was strong enough that I still loved the overall film.

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I'm talking about your apparent need to defend the game from people not being fair to it. Why do you feel that's YOUR responsibility and not the DEVELOPERS.
No need to get angry, I'm only defending it simply because it leads to conversation.

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Why introduce this futuristic sci-fi aspect to something which you showed as mystery / horror. Its just not concise at all. Its like introducing a mech in to Silent Hill.
I wouldn't go THAT far.  The sunglasses thing is odd, but I wouldn't say it's completely out of left field.  It's not as if that is the focus of the story, you know?  I know some people get really annoyed by things like that (in all forms of media), but it's never something that bothered me.  If the story decided to go all sci-fi in the end, yeah, that would be disappointing, but there's no evidence that such a thing will occur.  The sunglasses seem more like a method of adding something to the gameplay.  They are unlikely to be the primary focus of the narrative.  Do we even know what year this is set in?  I dunno, just doesn't seem like a big deal to me and is something that we've seen in films many times before. 

Then again, I also enjoy when stories DO throw completely insane shit at you.  This doesn't work as well in a film due to set pacing, but an interactive experience that leaves you going WTF is enjoyable.  I loved the switch to Raiden in MGS2 and the Arbiter in Halo 2, for instance.  What happened with Indigo Prophecy is simply that 1) they abandoned the adventuring during the final third of the game and 2) they didn't really flesh out the final act of the story.  I didn't mind the direction they were going in, simply the execution of it.  Thus far, however, there is no indication that the story will do anything like that in this new game and they've directly mentioned many of the things that didn't work in the first game.  That's why I don't understand how you've come to the conclusion that they didn't understand the problems of the original.  Some sci-fi glasses do not indicate their lack of understanding.

My problem with what has been shown is that the script and voice acting are nowhere near as good as they should be.  They also did a poor job with handling the eyes (something critical to the creation of a believable virtual character).

I suppose I simply don't get the whole idea of completely giving up on a game based on an early demonstration.  It seems like you should wait until it is complete and judge from there.  I'm still interested in Assassin's Creed 2, for instance, despite the fact that the original was a deeply flawed, overly repetitive experience.  The potential for a good game remains and I won't pass judgment until it is complete.

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« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2009, 08:00:03 PM »
Lost Planet 2 lets you walk inside of a monster, shoot at its guts then jump out its ass and you guys are talking about Heavy Rain or that other game

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« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2009, 08:10:58 PM »
I haven't played Indigo, but it seems that people are split about how good it was and that is affecting how high or low their expectations are for Heavy Rain. I'm still interested to see how everything turns out, but until this game is out I think I'll stop giving a shit.

Lost Planet 2 lets you walk inside of a monster, shoot at its guts then jump out its ass and you guys are talking about Heavy Rain or that other game

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Seriously one of the best looking games from this E3! Has it been confirmed for the PS3 yet?

Yea.

It was posted on their blog.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/06/03/lost-planet-on-ps3-the-1st-interview/

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« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2009, 08:43:06 AM »
My impression is that the game was going to be a basic and stripped down mystery. No frills, just focus on the characters and the suspense. And I hoped they learned from everyone complaining about it in Indigo, but apparently not. Why introduce this futuristic sci-fi aspect to something which you showed as mystery / horror. Its just not concise at all. Its like introducing a mech in to Silent Hill.
Well, at least David Cage had this to say...

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The ARI (Advanced Reality Interface) technology, pictured in action above, is "the only liberty we took," Cage assured. "It's not a sci-fi game; no magic; no alien nothing; just reality." So, we guess that rules out having undead sex again?