Author Topic: Mass Effect 2 looks nuts (Read 3355 times)

WrikaWrek · « **on:** June 05, 2009, 10:57:40 AM »

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14235013/mass-effect-2/videos/masseffect2_layingoutthepla.html

Wow

I'm really impressed.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1 on:** June 05, 2009, 11:53:18 AM »

I attempted to play the first one.

Played for about... errr... an hour or so? Couldn't continue. Too boring.

maxy · « **Reply #2 on:** June 05, 2009, 12:17:28 PM »

Lighting(shadowing) engine is greatly improved.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #3 on:** June 05, 2009, 12:20:10 PM »

Quote from: mojovonio on June 05, 2009, 11:12:15 AM

THEY GOT RID OF THE JAGGY SHADOWS!

Thank you!

I think that was my biggest complaint about the first game.

Anyway, that ME2 video looks pretty awesome. I like how the cutscenes feels more...dynamic. Rather than the standard Bioware "alternating shots of people standing around while talking to each other" like the first game was filled with.

Oh and flying cars.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #4 on:** June 05, 2009, 02:31:11 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on June 05, 2009, 11:53:18 AM

I attempted to play the first one.

Played for about... errr... an hour or so? Couldn't continue. Too boring.

I'm starting to feel this way too with the time I've put in.

cool breeze · « **Reply #5 on:** June 05, 2009, 02:52:10 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on June 05, 2009, 11:53:18 AM

I attempted to play the first one.

Played for about... errr... an hour or so? Couldn't continue. Too boring.

you should try to get past that first part. Mass Effect has a really horrible start that makes most jrpg look good. It really picks up after that.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #6 on:** June 05, 2009, 03:11:44 PM »

no i don't ^

I might download it again sometime. I like dialogue trees and all but the beginning... I couldn't keep my mind concentrated on whatever they were saying.

"Tell me about the scientists at the camp....

Goodbye"

demi · « **Reply #7 on:** June 05, 2009, 04:07:30 PM »

but you could follow along with metal gear's?

Jansen · « **Reply #8 on:** June 05, 2009, 07:03:41 PM »

Quote from: demi on June 05, 2009, 04:07:30 PM

but you could follow along with metal gear's?

lol fistful annihilated

ME2 looks superhot. i hope you can dialog interrupt and choose to kill people often

Third · « **Reply #9 on:** June 05, 2009, 07:38:08 PM »

Great stuff. The first Mass Effect was amazing.

Definitely getting this one.

Veidt · « **Reply #10 on:** June 05, 2009, 07:50:14 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on June 05, 2009, 11:53:18 AM

I attempted to play the first one.

Played for about... errr... an hour or so? Couldn't continue. Too boring.

Yep. Even tried replaying today. Quit within the first 30 minutes. You really have to love wasting time, to finish this game.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #11 on:** June 05, 2009, 08:00:12 PM »

Veidt, aren't you a hardcore MGS advocate too?

Veidt · « **Reply #12 on:** June 05, 2009, 08:03:25 PM »

Nuclear prolifartation and a canon of stories filled with mystery and sensation is a lot more endurable than aliens that all happen speak English.

Veidt · « **Reply #13 on:** June 05, 2009, 08:05:47 PM »

oh dammit spelling is crap. It's passed midnight here, I've officially been awake 24 hours. so give me a frackin' break.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #14 on:** June 05, 2009, 08:28:53 PM »

Mystery and sensation? Which category does the hours of inane, pointless chatter and nanobot bullshit fall under?

Jansen · « **Reply #15 on:** June 05, 2009, 08:35:35 PM »

man i also love poopy jokes, cyborgs with high heels and press on nails, and old men that can't defend themselves getting murdered.

that's awesome shit

Veidt · « **Reply #16 on:** June 05, 2009, 08:52:02 PM »

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Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on June 05, 2009, 08:28:53 PM

Mystery and sensation? Which category does the hours of inane, pointless chatter and nanobot bullshit fall under?

In my humble opinion. MGS4 was chatter heavy, because a 20 year old plot had to be laid bare, in 1 game. MGS3 or MGS1 aren't like that. I don't count MGS2, because that was the bastard child that no one wanted.
I don't personally really, pay that much attention to the small details of the story. However, the Metal Gear Solid series does undisputedly, have the best voice work in our industry today. Couple that with the great western translators in charge of delivering it to us as complete as possible. The Metal Gear Solid series compensate for heavy story, with moments where complete, unique and never before seen approaches are taken, in order to capture the mind of the gamer and unify him/her with the virtual world, Microwave scene MGS4, Psycho mantis MGS1, The Sorrow MGS3, it's pretty much a silent promise that ALL Metal Gear Solid fans know and hold dear.

MGS is formed in away, that you'll recognize and actually feel in sync with the characters. I haven't seen a game do that to me, from my personal experience.

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Listen to the way the reviewer speaks about the story and the characters. The story of MGS has managed to form a relationship with it's familiars.

Quote from: dcharlie on June 05, 2009, 08:42:47 PM

i obviously played a different MGS to these people :/

Mass Effect, yup - really slow start -too much chitchat etc...
but once it starts it's great.

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Nuclear prolifartation and a canon of stories filled with mystery and sensation is a lot more endurable than aliens that all happen speak English.

you can find nothing interesting in the ME world and characters? no mystery at all? Seems odd given that the whole thing is about one big mystery.

I mean, it's not the greatest story ever, but it's an insanely well constructed and believable game world.

also the machines talk in clicks :O and Wrex is a better character than every character in MGS.
plus, space pussy.

Actually, I find the approach to be very interesting [ How you have to pursuade the council, and expose your enemie etc.] it's great. By far, the best RPG [ is it one?] I have EVER, played. And I don't like RPG's to be honest. Puts shit like FF to shame.

cool breeze · « **Reply #17 on:** June 05, 2009, 09:03:40 PM »

Mass Effect had a fine story, it just had the usual Bioware/rpg shit way of telling it. Alpha Protocol seems to be fixing that by having a time window for when you can reply. Mass Effect 2 even is doing things where the dialogue goes on as you drive or during some action. I remember when they first showed the game they talked about how dynamic it was to pull out your gun R Kelly style to intimidate the other guy. Then you play the game and it's just everything on the right is good, then on the left is evil.

actually, the world they created was really interesting. The idea that humanity sort of inherited deep space travel from other species instead of creating it on their own. The human race was the new race amongst bunch that was already there, especially Sheppard as the first human spectre. They even made effort to not have every alien be a two armed, two legged humanoid with different skin. Though, most were just so gear and shit like that would make sense.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #18 on:** June 05, 2009, 09:07:20 PM »

oh look another thread about MGS.

Veidt · « **Reply #19 on:** June 05, 2009, 09:15:06 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on June 05, 2009, 09:06:21 PM

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Listen to the way the reviewer speaks about the story and the characters. The story of MGS has managed to form a relationship with it's familiars.

i have several friends who love the MGS story line and characters, but i simply cannot get into them. I've tried to figure out why and the only weak explaination is that i can't put my finger on the tone of the series.

Is it supposed to be rediculous over the top and fruity and i'm supposed to laugh at some of the moments?
or a mix of that AND some sort of hollywood style blockbuster cheese with a deeper meaning?

Now , my a couple of my friends say "it's both! just relax and go along with it" but i really can't do it. I don't mind the games, loved the first one, really really enjoy the first half of the 4th one , but i have to tune out the story and the characters.

Actually, at first, i quite liked Drebin, but after a while he ended up another cartoon creation.

I personally think Kojima makes good characters, but he always seems to have to f'ck them up with twenty tons of Japanocheese + silly sauce. Again, i am guessing that's what i'm supposed to enjoy about it, but i just can't enjoy it.

Your friends are right, it's both. Don't worry, I like Drebin too. Unfortunately, he too fell victim to the Japocheese sillines. We're on par.
The secret is to just enjoy the hell out of the games, don't think too much about the story. Actually, it's quite entertaining to see how long some codec convo's last. The ones with Rose for instance, they piss the hell out of me, I just end up jiggling her bags of sand. Did you see what just happened there? Kojipro knew that would happen, so they incorporated that minute and useless sixaxis jiggling. That sort of stuff, it's like MGS games speak to the player.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #20 on:** June 05, 2009, 11:51:07 PM »

I smell poop. Someone must be talking about MGS.

tiesto · « **Reply #21 on:** June 06, 2009, 01:18:34 AM »

I love the cheese of the MGS series, and think Bioware games take themselves WAAAAY too seriously... Still need to give Mass Effect a go, but I wasn't too keen on what little I've seen of the combat system.

Mrbob · « **Reply #22 on:** June 06, 2009, 01:39:05 AM »

Confirmed to be best RPG this gen until Mass Effect 3 is out.

maxy · « **Reply #23 on:** June 06, 2009, 07:44:20 AM »

New vid,what happens after that battle

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_11528_en.html

New character looks and sounds cool.

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #24 on:** June 06, 2009, 11:52:02 AM »

http://v2betav2.gamersyde.com/stream_11478_en.html

The combat looks much better than in the first, hopefully there is a better and more various selection of weapons. It looks like the squad commands are still wonky though.

drohne · « **Reply #25 on:** June 06, 2009, 04:20:55 PM »

have they actually designed a game this time or are they still using a random terrain generator for 80% of their content

do i care either way

demi · « **Reply #26 on:** June 06, 2009, 04:28:40 PM »

apparently it's 2 discs

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #27 on:** June 06, 2009, 04:50:18 PM »

that video displays some of the most simple third person shooter cover design I've ever seen.

tiesto · « **Reply #28 on:** June 06, 2009, 09:57:07 PM »

Is that video safe to watch if I haven't played through the first game yet?

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #29 on:** June 06, 2009, 10:28:17 PM »

dammitmattt · « **Reply #30 on:** June 07, 2009, 12:50:41 AM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on June 06, 2009, 04:50:18 PM

that video displays some of the most simple third person shooter cover design I've ever seen.

Explain.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #31 on:** June 07, 2009, 12:53:17 AM »

Quote from: dammitmattt on June 07, 2009, 12:50:41 AM

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on June 06, 2009, 04:50:18 PM
that video displays some of the most simple third person shooter cover design I've ever seen.

Explain.

had some extremely simple level layout design. like if you were to create a "third person shooter cover layout for dummies" book, that video follows it to the letter.

dammitmattt · « **Reply #32 on:** June 07, 2009, 12:55:27 AM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on June 07, 2009, 12:53:17 AM

had some extremely simple level layout design. like if you were to create a "third person shooter cover layout for dummies" book, that video follows it to the letter.

It's a demo level of a game that's still 9+ months from release. It might just be for E3. It might not be final. Who knows.

And it's an RPG. You know that, right?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #33 on:** June 07, 2009, 03:06:42 AM »

brawndolicious · « **Reply #34 on:** June 07, 2009, 09:50:27 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on June 07, 2009, 03:06:42 AM

so

Stats and loot are much more important gameplay features. Also, your shooting skills matter VERY LITTLE in this game (did you even get past the first planet in ME1?) compared to how you use tech and biotic powers. I mean, your reflexes don't matter any more in Mass Effect than they did in KOTOR so complaining about cover mechanics means nothing really.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #35 on:** June 07, 2009, 09:53:23 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on June 07, 2009, 09:50:27 PM

Stats and loot are much more important gameplay features. Also, your shooting skills matter VERY LITTLE in this game (did you even get past the first planet in ME1?) compared to how you use tech and biotic powers. I mean, your reflexes don't matter any more in Mass Effect than they did in KOTOR so complaining about cover mechanics means nothing really.

what does this have to do with simple level design?

brawndolicious · « **Reply #36 on:** June 07, 2009, 10:05:47 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on June 07, 2009, 09:53:23 PM

what does this have to do with simple level design?

That it doesn't affect the gameplay.

I agree that it might make the environments more boring to look at where the building interiors in the first game were mostly copy-pasted. But what you where complaining about was how the actual game will play when it doesn't sound like you got past the tutorial planet.

dammitmattt · « **Reply #37 on:** June 07, 2009, 10:24:04 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on June 07, 2009, 09:53:23 PM

what does this have to do with simple level design?

How was that level design in that FF13 demo?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #38 on:** June 07, 2009, 10:32:41 PM »

how should i know?

dammitmattt · « **Reply #39 on:** June 07, 2009, 10:43:46 PM »

It sucked. But it doesn't really matter. It's an RPG demo. The level design isn't the point

And it's amazing how you can judge level design based on a few short clips that just show a few random glimpses of a much bigger level.

Point being? Your complaint is stupid. Bring something better to the table!

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #40 on:** June 07, 2009, 10:46:22 PM »

its not amazing. i watched video. saw simple boring level design. pointed it out.

dammitmattt · « **Reply #41 on:** June 07, 2009, 10:53:44 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on June 07, 2009, 10:46:22 PM

its not amazing. i watched video. saw simple boring level design. pointed it out.

Not to beat a dead horse, but you saw about 1-2 minutes of a level. Do you realize that? I'm done trying to argue sense with a brick wall.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #42 on:** June 07, 2009, 10:57:00 PM »

Quote from: dammitmattt on June 07, 2009, 10:53:44 PM

Do you realize that?

yep

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #43 on:** June 10, 2009, 10:13:53 PM »

Here's a little tidbit for your 360gamers: my buddy whose a high ranking editor at IGN let it slip that Bioware accidentally said it was for 360 PC and PS3 in their behind closed door showing on the first day.

Bildi · « **Reply #44 on:** June 10, 2009, 10:16:17 PM »

lol Mass Effect.

MCD · « **Reply #45 on:** June 10, 2009, 10:17:43 PM »

never liked it anyway

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #46 on:** June 10, 2009, 10:18:33 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on June 10, 2009, 10:09:45 PM

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Hudson also said that while previous squad members from Mass Effect will return, none of them will be recruitable.

http://xbox-360.nowgamer.com/news/674/mass-effect-2-has-bloodbath-ending

FUCK BIOWARE, AGAIN!

....

demi · « **Reply #47 on:** June 10, 2009, 10:27:26 PM »

lol. like you expected them to actually do something they promised. ooook. i called it way early on.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #48 on:** June 10, 2009, 10:43:11 PM »

Interest level before this revelation: 0
Interest level after this revelation: 0

pilonv1 · « **Reply #49 on:** June 10, 2009, 10:54:48 PM »

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

no more Wrex

brawndolicious · « **Reply #50 on:** June 11, 2009, 01:52:42 AM »

I guess that's a good idea. The story would get boring if you had the same side-characters whose backgrounds you already know. I just hope they make it easier to find Krogan and Quarian armors.

Also, I hope that they improve the facial editor.

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Author Topic: Mass Effect 2 looks nuts (Read 3355 times)