Activision may stop suppporting Sony

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Its Les Claypool from the My Name is Mud video

[Narag]

Only a person who has no clue what they're talking about would jump to the conclusion that I spend all day typing this when I do it on commute or while at work.

QWERTY keyboard ftw.

Something something taking hyperbole literally.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Did żou miss the hilarious retort at the end?

[archie4208]

I have just beaten GoW2. Wow, great ending and what a rush of super-hard boss fights near the end - Sisters of Fate and Zeus... Zeus was a bitch, killed me many times.

I don't remember that stuff being in Gears of War 2.  You fought a mutant Brumak from a helicopter at the end of the game.

[demi]

Only a person who has no clue what they're talking about would jump to the conclusion that I spend all day typing this when I do it on commute or while at work.

QWERTY keyboard ftw.

lol. well i'm glad you're hard at work.

[AdmiralViscen]

This topic should have been shitbinned as soon as someone entertained the notion of PS3 being as good as PS2.

[AdmiralViscen]

HD budgets ensure no console will have the PS2's library again. 360 isn't even as good as the PS2, even though I play it more.

[cool breeze]

360 has a lot more problems than just faulty hardware; the PS3 has even more problems.

I'm struggling to come up with "a lot" of problems that the 360 has outside of the hardware.  The Guide lag sucks, but it's mitigated by the fact that the Guide is much better than anything else the competition has.  There's not many platformers, but that's a dying genre outside of Mario.  What am I missing here?

I have to backpedal a bit.  A lot of the complaints I had were actually good things after thinking about it for a second.  Like, I was going to say XBL points are stupid until I remembered that I save a ton of real money by exploiting that system, so it's a positive.  But things like paying for gold (just the playing online part) are still bad.  Everything is proprietary on the system; the controller has to be charged using a special cable, the hard drive has to be the 360 clip on over priced hard drive, and other controllers/peripherals are a mess because of it.  One of the few good things about the PS3 is that it's almost as open as PC for accepting USB devices.  The guide is awful in both design and function.  I was somewhat happy when new xbox dash was released and it appeared faster, but over time it got worse.  Everything needs to load on the thing.  I want to buy a game or download the trial and it still needs to load the option to select.  Even games stored on my hard drive take way too long to load in the menu.  And I don't know if you consider it faulty hardware or not, but the system is obnoxiously loud.

That said, the 360 has become better over time.  It is one of the only systems that made playing games more enjoyable with a firmware upgrade by allowing you to install games.  Both the 360 and PS3 started off so bad and eventually got better with each new firmware update.  The Wii got a clock and the ability to skip a step when playing games off the SD card.  The smartest thing Microsoft did was implement a bunch of systems in place, like custom soundtracks or achievements, before the 360 came out.  The PS3 is still getting jacked trying to catch up to those two things.  All games still don't support custom soundtracks.

[Kestastrophe]

I was somewhat happy when new xbox dash was released and it appeared faster, but over time it got worse.  Everything needs to load on the thing.  I want to buy a game or download the trial and it still needs to load the option to select.  Even games stored on my hard drive take way too long to load in the menu.

I thought that was only happening to me, phew. Whenever I try to compare achievements with peeps on my friends list, the dash locks up for a good 20 seconds. ANNOYING.

Oh yeah, I also hate how they removed the feature that allowed you to immediately view a friends profile when they hopped online and you pressed the guide button  :'(

[duckman2000]

But things like paying for gold (just the playing online part) are still bad.

Making demos timed exclusives to Gold members is almost as annoying as the whole pre-order demo thing that Sony has been pushing as of late. And most annoying is that it was an added feature, as it actually further gimped Silver. That's just not progressing in the right direction if you ask me. On the other hand, if you're a Gold member XBL is all sorts of great. I'm just concerned that we will see more tiers, and that my gold account will be somehow gimped when compared to a possible Platinum tier.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

how could I have shown an obvious bias at other places if I didn't even own a ps3 until january  also I didn't own a wii since 2007

[Mrbob]

Activision is just blowing off steam.  They won't do shit.  Kotick just wants to run his mouth.

360 has its issues, so does PS3.  They are just boxes with controller attached you play games with.  Having said this, Sony's talk of a fantastic first party lineup is finally coming to fruition.  PS3 may be expensive, but damn if it isn't pumping out impressive games.  MLB The Show and Infamous (both first party exclusives) are better than anything released so far this side of Dawn of War 2.  Upcoming lineup looks even better.  MS has a couple games here and there, but Sony first party looks to be on a path to annihilate MS's offerings.  360 may sell more systems, but PS3 is slowly becoming the better console for gaming. 

If you only own a 360 you have to convince yourself to enjoy sub par gaming in certain genres.  Case in point:

Infamous > Prototype

MLB The Show > MLB2K

Motorstorm > Gran Turismo > Forza

Ratchet > Banjo

X360 has its strengths (mainly superior 3rd party games), but its amazing how forgetful people become of the merits of the PS3.

[cool breeze]

Crackdown would be a comparison to Infamous, and to balance the rest out.

Infamous = Crackdown
MLB The Show > The Bigs > no other good baseball games
PGR4 = Motorstorm 2

Dead Rising >>>>>>>> Genji 2

And this thread became more about why the 360 is ultimately better than the PS3 instead of why Activision sucks (outside of IW and Blizzard).  They even ruined Bizarre.

[brawndolicious]

Motorstorm > Gran Turismo > Forza

Those three games aren't even remotely similar.

Forza: It does the tuning and the simmish-handling aspects very, very well.  I think I remember the graphics getting a little fugly at parts but the physics are where the meat & potatoes are.

GT: It's just a screenshot generator afaik but it has a big fanbase so there must be something there.  The cars handling does feel too scripted though.

Motorstorm: An interesting take on the offroad racing genre and I think it was the first PS3 game to also have a decent online community.  I think it's good, but not worth sucking the balls of the multiplatform Sega Rally game.

Which just shits from great heights on any other off-road arcade racer that I've seen.

[maxy]

I see that we had some mini meltdowns here,if PS3 gets dreamcasted internet is going to become one big crying place...

Last place console always gets the shaft,always
It is no coincidence that Activision mentioned next year,people are going to start developing for next generation systems very soon(as in 2011),i fully expect to see next gen systems by fall 2012...3.5 years from now.

Guess where are they going to find people to do that,most problematic,last place,least profitable platform...PS3
Nobody is going to hire more people and they can't abandon highly profitable platforms because they need money...
That is the real danger for Sony...MS and Nintendo hold the keys to that...funny how times have changed

As for the exclusives list warz ...

There are only two types of games:
1.Games that are fun to play-games that people like
2.Games that are not fun to play-games that people don't like

Fanboy nerds are not included into people.

Nothing else matters...exclusive list warz 
Imaginary ammunition for fanboy nerds to fight imaginary warz...


 

[Kestastrophe]

 

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[Mrbob]

Nothing about list wars.  Someone had to lay down the real talk in this thread because it was getting out of hand.

Although this waggle bullshit is about to infect both consoles so it might be time to ditch them and go back to pc only.

[Van Cruncheon]

for all of this talk of sony's "awesome" first party lineup, i only own three ps3 exclusive games: infamous, mlb 09 the show, and hot shots golf oob. the rest of their first-party lineup has been completely disposable, and i see nothing on the horizon beyond mlb 10 to change that. seems the majority of gamers agree, what with sony's bottoming sales

[duckman2000]

Games that justify the PS3 existence imho:

-Wipeout HD
-Uncharted

Beyond that there really arent many reasons to own one.

Uncharted, really? It was a good, fun little game made by a studio that obviously knows its stuff when it comes to cutscenes and overall production values, but I honestly don't understand how people could get that attached to it. It's like being a drooling fan of The Mummy, or something. But hey, at least Prole liked it.

Wipeout HD and Infamous is where it's at. Uncharted 2 looks like it might be crazy hot, too.

[brawndolicious]

Xbox 720 and Natal are completely different things, one has nothing to do with the other. Natal is just an add on that might be bundled in its own package with a standard or maybe slimmed down 360. PS2 isn't comparable to anything either, it was in it's own league. Not supporting it would have been fiscal suicide.

What I'm saying is that in two or three years when we all have Xbox 720 and/or WiiHD kits, all publishers will have to make a choice. They will need engineers to support these new platforms because getting in on the ground floor is key. Will they go to the expense of hiring all new people, or will they shift people away from existing product? I think that is what that dude at Activision is contemplating. No one is dropping support now, but when the new machines come around they might. Mind you I doubt it would be a full fledged pull out, keep some key franchises that make major coin and ditch the rest. Now it's likely this is all saber rattling as others have said, but it's also possible that they projected out a few years, estimated where they thought PS3 pricing would be in two or so years and didn't like what they saw, hence his comment.

That's from a PS3 developer on B3D.  His conclusion is pretty logical though.

[Van Cruncheon]

i own two ps3s

mmmm, best blu-ray player on the market

[tiesto]

for all of this talk of sony's "awesome" first party lineup, i only own three ps3 exclusive games: infamous, mlb 09 the show, and hot shots golf oob. the rest of their first-party lineup has been shite, and i see nothing on the horizon beyond mlb 10 to change that. seems the majority of gamers agree, what with sony's bottoming sales

I can't believe you of all of the enlightened gamers don't own at least 2 copies of the follwing, triple AAA, PS3 exclusive titles that have rocked the gaming world!

LittleBigPlanet
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Killzone 2
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Resistance 2
WarHawk
Valkyria Chronicles
Resistance: Fall Of Man
MotorStorm
Buzz! Quiz TV
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
Heavenly Sword
Ridge Racer 7
Folklore
Time Crisis 4

All of those above offer some of the best gaming experience in the last 10 years! You can't enjoy them on 360 BTW, only the power of CELL(TM) SPU and BLU-RAY(TM) makes it possible.

I own copies of LBP, RR7, MGS4 and Valkyria (and Wipeout HD)... they're all really fun games. Was pretty disappointed with Uncharted, I hate that 'cover' style gears of war gameplay, and constant shooter parts, I prefer more platforming/exploration elements in my games...

[Eel O'Brian]

i keep thinking i'll like LBP if i just give it another try, then hating it when i do

that metal gear solid pack with the paintball gun is really fun, though

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I'm glad this thread got some raqtionality into it finall’.

[Great Rumbler]

LBP was fun...for about an hour.

Didn't much care for it beyond that.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Only thing holding me back from getting a PS3 is my lack of owning a 1080p TV (so I can watch some Blurays), the price, few exclusive titles worth owning, and the fact that it seems like in a couple of years, we'll be seeing the Xbox 1080, PlayStation 4, and the Wiii.  Maybe on the store shelves or maybe in announcements.  I think 2011-2012 might be the likely time frame where these new systems come out.  Buying a $400 machine just isn't worth it when a new version is coming in a couple of years.

My current plan is to keep playing my 360.  Once that gets to the inevitable red ring of death, I'm just going to go back and play games on emulators.  If it doesn't RROD, I'm sure the 360 will have enough of what I want.  Although I might re-Wii once SMG2 comes out  :'(

[chronovore]

I was somewhat happy when new xbox dash was released and it appeared faster, but over time it got worse.  Everything needs to load on the thing.  I want to buy a game or download the trial and it still needs to load the option to select.  Even games stored on my hard drive take way too long to load in the menu.

I thought that was only happening to me, phew. Whenever I try to compare achievements with peeps on my friends list, the dash locks up for a good 20 seconds. ANNOYING.

Oh yeah, I also hate how they removed the feature that allowed you to immediately view a friends profile when they hopped online and you pressed the guide button  :'(

Oh, my fucking GOD; I am so happy to hear this is not just my own machine and net connection. I get decent connectivity for voice chats and multiplayer games, but EVERY time I go to the marketplace, it's a freakin' test of my near-angelic patience. Trying to nav the Marketplace and get the trial version of new Arcade titles, or trying to get to this week's Rock Band tracks without losing my mind is an increasingly challenging task. The videos in the Spotlight area, where they show tips on getting Achievements for recent games, those will sit there and buffer the video for over a full minute.

[originalz]

If you clean your cache it'll improve the dashboard speed.

[Mrbob]

Problem is you have to clean it constantly. 

When I got down to around 30GB I had to clean it almost every other day.  It is a glitch with installing games to your hdd on a 120gb hdd.  MS needs to fix this.

[chronovore]

Problem is you have to clean it constantly. 

When I got down to around 30GB I had to clean it almost every other day.  It is a glitch with installing games to your hdd on a 120gb hdd.  MS needs to fix this.

Are you serious? That's the situation I'm in; I've got a mess of games installed to my 120GB, and I'm down to about 42GB left. I'll give the cache a good douching and see what happens.

[patrickula]

In response to a post pages ago... I own both Banjo N&B and LBP, and I've had a lot more fun playing Banjo.

[chronovore]

I've deleted my cache and only updated one game out of the 5 installed ones. Got about 2 dozen XBLA games on it. Still getting bad lag while it displays the "loading" glowy-xbox-rings animating logo, even at startup before showing the dashboard, and of course during streaming video loads. Also something's batty with XBL itself, in that it said some content was not accessible but it would not prevent me from playing with friends or chatting with them; AFAICT the only thing missing is the pic of the in-tray game.

I'm having a "bad technology week" - nothing seems to want to cooperate.