Author Topic: Dear BET: Your awards show sucks, please tell me your producers are interns. (Read 6278 times)

The Fake Shemp · « **on:** June 28, 2009, 10:38:56 PM »

I understand there were drastic last minute changes on account of Michael Jackson's death, but this is one of the worst produced big-budget awards ceremonies I have ever seen. Tons of gaffes, awkward pacing, poor awards executions (no fanfare, no listing nominees?), etc.

Also, the show perpetuates stereotypes. Lets celebrate three black doctors - because if you basically don't listen to any of the awful lyrics that the show celebrates and focuses on academics, you too can be a doctor! Look, three black dudes in America became doctors!

Letting Soulja Boy perform also condones the young people's awful taste in music. I mean, on a night when BET is trying to celebrate Michael Jackson, is there a more inverse showcase of talent than Soulja Boy? I was literally listening to a dude mumble and speak (not sing) lyrics to a "song" (Jamie Foxx quipped that he could write about what errands he did on any given day, and it'd be a hit - as if that is some kind of endorsement) that on Michael Jackson's worst day - whacked out on Demerol and vomitting after meals - would have never comitted to sheet music.

Also, this whole affair comes off as an incredibly self-indulgent Jamie Foxx show. He won an award, has performed a couple of times, done his smarmy brand of humor, name dropping, etc.

WHITE PEOPLE OUT.

Bocsius · « **Reply #1 on:** June 28, 2009, 10:41:02 PM »

I'm watching BET for the first time in over a decade, wondering where the Michael stuff is. The opening, yeah. That one dude singing that one song, sure. Come on, bring the goods.

I will say the Keith Sweat-Guy-BBD bit made me feel old.

Bocsius · « **Reply #2 on:** June 28, 2009, 10:42:47 PM »

OK, now they're at least healing the world.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #3 on:** June 28, 2009, 10:43:44 PM »

I hope they are saving it for a grand finale. Here is a Michael Jackson tribute now.

The Keith Sweet/Guy bit was going on as I finished up typing my post, and it was the coolest thing the show had done thus far - but you could tell that most of the audience forgot who they were.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #4 on:** June 28, 2009, 10:45:14 PM »

Mike Epps getting shot down.

Bocsius · « **Reply #5 on:** June 28, 2009, 10:46:34 PM »

[youtube=560,345]JTBvUBq60tc[/youtube]

A far better MJ tribute than any of this.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #6 on:** June 28, 2009, 10:47:40 PM »

I agree.

BET should be fucking ashamed.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #7 on:** June 28, 2009, 10:49:49 PM »

I watched about 30 or so minutes of those BET awards, because I'd read there were gonna be some musical tributes to Jackson and I figured I'd get a few laughs out of it, but I'm not kidding when I say that those were 30 excruciating minutes. It's not an exaggeration when I tell you that was one of the worst things I have ever viewed on television. Not a single person on that stage sang worth a fuck, out of tune and just wretched, wretched.

Joe Jackson was in the audience wearing a baseball cap and standing beside Al Sharpton, clapping along to a Bel Biv Devoe performance. I don't think I've ever wished for a pseudo-celebrity-parasite double death, but I did when I saw that - a light structure from the ceiling, a crazy Michael Jackson fan with a pistol and poor aim on the first shot, anything. Surreal.

cool breeze · « **Reply #8 on:** June 28, 2009, 10:51:23 PM »

I tried watching it, but I couldn't make it past the walking backwards on the stage and forgetting the mic. I ended up watching the Jackson 5 movie on TV Land a bit before noticing it was 5 hours long and I wasn't even at the halfway point.

btw, am I supposed to feel so bad for being white? I'm not even pure white, I'm persian white. These guys are all like "MICHAEL IS OURS, WE JUST LET YOU USE HIM!"...sorry? I don't get it. Isn't that kinda contradicting on song "Black or White"? I thought it didn't matter if I was black or white...YEAH YEAH YEAH

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #9 on:** June 28, 2009, 10:52:54 PM »

This award show is awful. You can tell they spend a ton in production, but the network should demand their money back.

I have not seen the Tonys, but I gather they are better produced with probably half the budget.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #10 on:** June 28, 2009, 10:57:01 PM »

You'd think that three days after your son's death you might wanna stay home and grieve with your family, but he had to stick his ancient mug in front of a camera to grab up all the sympathy back-patting he could before it all disappears for him in the next few months. Even if you don't believe all the fucked-up stories about how he treated his sons, his clapping and dancing at an awards show before his son is even in the ground ought to cement what a miserable human being he is.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #11 on:** June 28, 2009, 10:57:28 PM »

This show probably has an hour of dead air if you were to add it all up. That is insane.

I did like the, "MICHAEL BELONGS TO US!" bit. No black person wanted anything to do with Michael Jackson the past decade, but now that he is dead, the black community is retroactively claiming him.

Hey, it's Ari Gold!

Bocsius · « **Reply #12 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:04:33 PM »

So did that last song basically trash half the people in the audience?

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #13 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:05:17 PM »

Watch Neverland be cleaned out and tons and tons and gigs and gigs of child porn gets uncovered. Then it'll turn into some OJ shit

Did any of the comics pull out the White people: dee der deer dee der deer Black people: durr durrr durr durr

http://white-people-black-people.funnypart.com/

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #14 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:08:01 PM »

he gave up neverland years ago, if any of that type of stuff were there it's already long gone

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #15 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:08:19 PM »

Just Jamie Foxx.

He told everyone that Michael was BLACK and belonged to the BLACK COMMUNITY - they just shared him with everyone else.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #16 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:09:44 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on June 28, 2009, 11:08:01 PM

he gave up neverland years ago, if any of that type of stuff were there it's already long gone

Awww shit. Forgot about that. Makes one wonder if he ever had actual damning material in his possession at any point.

Quote from: Willco on June 28, 2009, 11:08:19 PM

Just Jamie Foxx.

He told everyone that Michael was BLACK and belonged to the BLACK COMMUNITY - they just shared him with everyone else.

$:-\$

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #17 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:12:53 PM »

i believe police found porn there during the trial, but no child porn

lots of dude porn, though

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #18 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:17:30 PM »

SEE HE WAS NO PEDOPHILE FUCK YOU WHITE MEDIA

(paraphrasing what Foxx said)

Bocsius · « **Reply #19 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:17:32 PM »

So they said they were reshuffling, cutting, tweaking, and adding 30 minutes to the show in order to get all the tribute stuff in.

It's working out great so far.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #20 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:21:17 PM »

This is awful.

(The show, not the O'Jays segment - it is decent)

Himu · « **Reply #21 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:33:44 PM »

I miss Soultrain. I watched it weekly as a kid, and it's a travesty it's not on the air anymore.

Overall, average show but it had some good things if you miss some old cats. I'm amazed I saw BBD and Guy on the stage tonight. Having the O'jays on stage just makes it better.

If only they had Blackstreet or Boys II Men.

Himu · « **Reply #22 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:39:05 PM »

Second half of the Awards Show >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First half of Awards Show.

Old school r&b and funk ftw. And ya don't stop.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #23 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:41:02 PM »

No offense to the old school throwbacks, which are the only decent performances of the night, but it doesn't excuse the dead air, awful pacing, etc.

This feels like it was shot on the fly. It is painful.

Himu · « **Reply #24 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:45:39 PM »

Still better than the first half, which made me want to puke my dinner with that uncle tom coonery being displayed.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #25 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:49:32 PM »

This is the product of hundreds of BET employees working overtime? I won't even go for the obvious racist joke.

This is an awful tribute to Michael Jackson!

Himu · « **Reply #26 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:50:57 PM »

That's what I said.

Took them three or four days to put it together, and you can tell.

cool breeze · « **Reply #27 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:52:43 PM »

Quote from: Willco on June 28, 2009, 11:49:32 PM

This is the product of hundreds of BET employees working overtime? I won't even go for the obvious racist joke.

This is an awful tribute to Michael Jackson!

the ball is in white people's court!

it's a shame we don't have game

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #28 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:53:26 PM »

That is a pretty shoddy excuse.

Almost all major awards shows, including the Oscars, do constant rewrites leading up to the televised ceremony after stuff falls flat in rehearsals, people backing out, etc.

That is not really an excuse.

If this show was the result of a total overhaul with 24 hours, I'd be more sympathetic - but we are talking three to four days and (apparently) hundreds of BET employees working overtime.

If this is the end product, then they all should be fucking ashamed. It is an awful tribute.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #29 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:56:34 PM »

If they ended the show with everyone in the audience kicking Joe Jackson and Al Sharpton to death I would revise my rating of FUCK YOU FOR STEALING MY TIME to a grade of A++

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #30 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:59:07 PM »

They just praised Joe Jackson.

JOE JACKSON: "Everyone - don't forget to make it to the MICHAEL JACKSON CELEBRATION AFTERPARTY!"

When my son dies, I will go to a music awards show and rock out with Soulja Boy.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #31 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:59:34 PM »

Wilco hates BET but promotes Michael Bay's big budget minstrel show, Transformers 2. Coincidence?

Himu · « **Reply #32 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:01:12 AM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on June 28, 2009, 11:59:34 PM

Wilco hates BET but promotes Michael Bay's big budget minstrel show, Transformers 2. Coincidence?

Naw, nikka. Nawwww.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #33 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:02:05 AM »

Quote from: Willco on June 28, 2009, 11:59:07 PM

JOE JACKSON: "Everyone - don't forget to make it to the MICHAEL JACKSON CELEBRATION AFTERPARTY!"

did he really say this?

Bocsius · « **Reply #34 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:04:50 AM »

The show is already 34 minutes over its originally allotted time.

Considering they doubled-up award presentations, didn't even bother to announce nominees, has there even been 15 minutes of Michael? People taking 5 seconds during their acceptance speeches does not count.

edit: I could have sworn the original time was 8-10:30. Maybe it wasn't. Anyway, I want my time back.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #35 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:09:44 AM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on June 28, 2009, 11:59:34 PM

Wilco hates BET but promotes Michael Bay's big budget minstrel show, Transformers 2. Coincidence?

I am sabotaging the black community.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #36 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:10:33 AM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on June 29, 2009, 12:02:05 AM

Quote from: Willco on June 28, 2009, 11:59:07 PM

JOE JACKSON: "Everyone - don't forget to make it to the MICHAEL JACKSON CELEBRATION AFTERPARTY!"

did he really say this?

There is an afterparty, but he did not say anything about it.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #37 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:12:22 AM »

i was prepared to hate him to death if he did

you have spared joe jackson this evening, willco

Bocsius · « **Reply #38 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:12:23 AM »

There you go, Jamie, promote your tour. Again.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #39 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:12:24 AM »

Jamie Foxx stop plugging your fucking concert.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #40 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:13:35 AM »

Yes - make jokes about your black audience and HIV! Way to go, Jamie.

What a fucking a joke.

castle007 · « **Reply #41 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:16:14 AM »

The whole show was fucking terrible

Bocsius · « **Reply #42 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:29:29 AM »

How low must these women's self esteem be to sing along with this song?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #43 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:36:35 AM »

She looks like she can barely speak without crying.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #44 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:38:56 AM »

Now THIS is a tribute!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #45 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:41:51 AM »

Janet look devastated, Joe looked like he was having fun.

Bocsius · « **Reply #46 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:43:33 AM »

Hundreds of people working overtime.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #47 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:47:14 AM »

Quote from: Green Man on June 29, 2009, 12:38:49 AM

[youtube=560,345]pgli9UYUT8M[/youtube]

BUY THAT BLU-RAY, DON'T YOU LOVE MICHEAL?

Why couldn't it have been Joe?

I love how he's being interviewed and when the interviewer asks for his thoughts about his son he suddenly bring in his publicist to read a statement.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #48 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:48:28 AM »

Joe Jackson: class act.

Bocsius · « **Reply #49 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:53:30 AM »

After reading about people scrambling to rework their performances and BET adding 30 minutes (plus) to the show, I guess I was wrong for expecting a little more. Seems like they stuck to the familiar "the show must go on" rule, and it mostly went on as planned. The opening... cool. The two classics and the girl singing that one verse of Heal the World. OK.

...

And?

If Michael had only rapped about killing people, slapping women, and counting money, he'd probably have 4 hours of non-stop covers. But maybe I'm just a cynic.

Michael should have been a wrestler. WWE could have had a tribute up and going in under a day. And they could have had all references to it down in under a day, too, should things turn out badly.

cool breeze · « **Reply #50 on:** June 29, 2009, 01:01:41 AM »

Quote from: Green Man on June 29, 2009, 12:38:49 AM

[youtube=560,345]pgli9UYUT8M[/youtube]

BUY THAT BLU-RAY, DON'T YOU LOVE MICHEAL?

Why couldn't it have been Joe?

wow

Bocsius · « **Reply #51 on:** June 29, 2009, 01:06:55 AM »

Far be it from me to criticize the grieving, but also... wow.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #52 on:** June 29, 2009, 01:20:07 AM »

And you wonder why he was so fucked up.

Cheebs · « **Reply #53 on:** June 29, 2009, 02:30:36 AM »

Holy Shit, I didn't know how much of an ass his dad was before. Was he like this to the other ones as well? Because Janet Jackson seemed to turn out fine.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #54 on:** June 29, 2009, 02:38:49 AM »

Quote from: swaggaz on June 29, 2009, 01:01:41 AM

Quote from: Green Man on June 29, 2009, 12:38:49 AM
[youtube=560,345]pgli9UYUT8M[/youtube]

BUY THAT BLU-RAY, DON'T YOU LOVE MICHEAL?

Why couldn't it have been Joe?

wow

shit.

Beezy · « **Reply #55 on:** June 29, 2009, 04:07:35 AM »

Quote from: Cheebs on June 29, 2009, 02:30:36 AM

Holy Shit, I didn't know how much of an ass his dad was before.

Geez Cheebs, you're like a decade late.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #56 on:** June 29, 2009, 04:24:12 AM »

Quote from: Willco on June 28, 2009, 10:38:56 PM

I understand there were drastic last minute changes on account of Michael Jackson's death, but this is one of the worst produced big-budget awards ceremonies I have ever seen. Tons of gaffes, awkward pacing, poor awards executions (no fanfare, no listing nominees?), etc.

Also, the show perpetuates stereotypes. Lets celebrate three black doctors - because if you basically don't listen to any of the awful lyrics that the show celebrates and focuses on academics, you too can be a doctor! Look, three black dudes in America became doctors!

Letting Soulja Boy perform also condones the young people's awful taste in music. I mean, on a night when BET is trying to celebrate Michael Jackson, is there a more inverse showcase of talent than Soulja Boy? I was literally listening to a dude mumble and speak (not sing) lyrics to a "song" (Jamie Foxx quipped that he could write about what errands he did on any given day, and it'd be a hit - as if that is some kind of endorsement) that on Michael Jackson's worst day - whacked out on Demerol and vomitting after meals - would have never comitted to sheet music.

Also, this whole affair comes off as an incredibly self-indulgent Jamie Foxx show. He won an award, has performed a couple of times, done his smarmy brand of humor, name dropping, etc.

WHITE PEOPLE OUT.

and you watched it

black people 1

jews 0

Beezy · « **Reply #57 on:** June 29, 2009, 04:25:27 AM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #58 on:** June 29, 2009, 04:30:31 AM »

Quote from: Green Man on June 29, 2009, 12:38:49 AM

[youtube=560,345]pgli9UYUT8M[/youtube]

BUY THAT BLU-RAY, DON'T YOU LOVE MICHEAL?

Why couldn't it have been Joe?

Wow

Not once does he say he misses his son, he doesn't seem sad or anything. It sounds more like he's saddened he lost a superstar to milk, yet disgustingly giddy about the potential money to be made off his death.

Fucking shame that this piece of shit got what he wanted all along: a cash cow

Veidt · « **Reply #59 on:** June 29, 2009, 07:32:27 AM »

Just what.the.fuck. Was going on in that video.

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Author Topic: Dear BET: Your awards show sucks, please tell me your producers are interns. (Read 6278 times)