YOO EFF CEE 100

[OptimoPeach]

I'm so ready to get shitfaced and watch this in HD tomorrow.

GSP bludgeoning Alves with his diseased elbow


Cock Chestnar getting slapped down by Frank Mur for the 2nd time in 2 years


THE UFC DEBUT OF SEXYAMA


...and a whole lot more good stuff

The weigh-ins went off without a hitch. Alves made weight, Mir looks like he's in the best shape of his life, and some dude on the undercard came out as the "Just Bleed" guy I don't remember the last time I was this pumped for an MMA card. I hope it delivers.

[E-DuB]

I lol'ed in the GAF thread when that guy would put a pic of Sexyama on every page.

That being said my predictions for tomorrow

GSP grinding out a win over Alves. Although with one good opportunity, Alves could pound out a win

I'm taking Brock over Mir, but I'm hoping Mir will make me eat my words.

Bisping over Henderson

I finish work at 9 then I'm speeding over to my buddies house with a bottle of scotch in tow to watch this go down.

 

[pilonv1]

GSP wins by decision

Lesnar by TKO

Bisping I hope beats Henderson so I can see Anderson Silva kick the fucking shit out of him

Also excited by Jonny Bones Jones and Akiyama fighting.

[OptimoPeach]

I'm going to be so pissed off if Lesnar wins. I don't think I can endure another 3 months of "Lesnar is the answer to Fedor" threads on Sherdog. I would fly to Frank Mir's house and give him a blowjob if he won via flying armbar. Hey, it could happen, Mir's 10lbs lighter than usual

[Boogie]

GSP BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!   

[Boogie]

I'm going to be so pissed off if Lesnar wins. I don't think I can endure another 3 months of "Lesnar is the answer to Fedor" threads on Sherdog.

I swear to God, it's probably been 3 years since I've even glanced at the sherdog forums.  You're better off ignoring the place, dude.

[OptimoPeach]

I had to change it

I'm going to be so pissed off if Lesnar wins. I don't think I can endure another 3 months of "Lesnar is the answer to Fedor" threads on Sherdog.

I swear to God, it's probably been 3 years since I've even glanced at the sherdog forums.  You're better off ignoring the place, dude.

Sherdog has become something of a guilty pleasure for me. It's like the GAF of MMA, really.

[pilonv1]

sherdog is hilarious right now. crying about Lesnar.

Only Fedor can save us now from this disgrace.

What a pathetic post fight display. This is utterly horrible.

yes. what a clown. now we will be swamped by even more wwe gays.

brock is not a professional, he is really a disgrace. all he has is lay on top power. im not a fan of mir but i hate brock more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This makes me sad, stop WWEfying our sport Brock. He's like the Albert Belle of MMA (lol, ancient MLB reference by me).

cry moar losers

brock

[OptimoPeach]

I'm not usually the guy complaining about the conduct of fighters in the octagon, but he's really pushing it. We don't need a heel. "B-b-b-but MARKETING." Shove that idiocy right up your ass. Fighters can talk shit all they want in interviews, but when the man you just beat to hell has the humility to get up and congratulate you, show some tact and at least shake his fucking hand. Better yet, show some gratitude to the fans that put dinner on your table. Even the Diaz brothers can make the distinction between hyping a fight and blatantly disrespecting their opponent (and the fans). MMA doesn't need any more negative attention; for as many great representatives of the sport the UFC has produced (GSP, Anderson, Florian, Couture, et al.), it only takes one Brock Lesnar to reverse that progress. I know this is becoming a tired platitude, but this brand of contrived drama needs to stay in pro wrestling. I'm not watching MMA for theatrics and manufactured grudge matches.

I don't really understand people trying to draw a comparison between this and Henderson's late punch, either. I'm not saying what Henderson did was excusable, but Lesnar's action's transcend a single late punch; people will forget about an extra punch (it's a fight, ffs), but that kind of revolting show of insolence leaves a lingering bitter taste that is quickly becoming all too familiar. Giving a guy a concussion isn't even comparable to sullying the integrity of the sport. And regardless of what his intentions are, he's doing just that. Besides all that, I got the impression from TUF that Bisping is a true-blue, heartfelt prick, and after the Nogueira fight I thought it was pretty clear that any trash-talk from Mir is simply fabricated hype.

That being said, props to Lesnar for patching up the holes in his game. His performance totally exceeded my expectations, and I don't think there's any question now as to whether or not he is a legitimate threat to any heavyweight out there. I might loathe that meathead, and I probably won't pay for another one of his fights, but to say that he looked impressive tonight is far beyond an understatement.

Yeah, yeah, tl;dr, I know.

edit: He just apologized in the press conference Too late, dipshit. He also said he wants Fedor. It's a shame that Dana is too stubborn of a manchild to ever make that happen.

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Fedor by whatever he wants

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edit: Boogie knows what's up. I'm so drunk that I completely forgot about him spitting on Bud Lite Fucking moron.

Wow, dem is a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow in that thread

[OptimoPeach]

inb4 "cry moar"

[pilonv1]

so you don't want manufactured hype or theatrics, yet youre cool with Mir basically doing that but not Lesnar who isn't putting on an act? He's a dude who doesn't like the media, doesn't like interviews and doesn't care what people think. It's not an act.

Anyway I think it's far better than a Nick Diaz or Matt Serra saying "lol we dont really hate each other, we're just trying to hype a fight".

I wonder if Josh Barnett has to put up with this

[OptimoPeach]

so you don't want manufactured hype or theatrics, yet youre cool with Mir basically doing that

I've never been fan, but I can at least tolerate it when it's before the fight, and not after, when your opponent is trying to fucking congratulate you. You really don't understand the difference?

but not Lesnar who isn't putting on an act? He's a dude who doesn't like the media, doesn't like interviews and doesn't care what people think. It's not an act.

Oh, alright, so he's just a piece of horseshit.

Seriously though, how can you convince yourself that crap isn't an act? His interview with Rogan could have been lifted straight from a fucking WWE script and no one would have noticed the difference.

Anyway I think it's far better than a Nick Diaz or Matt Serra saying "lol we dont really hate each other, we're just trying to hype a fight".

Expound on this. Is all your enjoyment of the sport derived from drama, or what?

[pilonv1]

I understand the difference, but I don't care.

The same way I don't care when Terrell Owens does something stupid, or when Shaq says something stupid.

[OptimoPeach]

It's not really fair to compare football or basketball to a fight. I know like I sound like I'm channeling the essence of The Last Samurai or some bullshit when I go off on these tangents about respect, but there's something so primal about a physical fight between two people that it is entirely separate from man-made sport; as cheesy as it sounds, when you and another guy beat on each other you form a bond that you're expected to acknowledge with humbleness after it's all over. The thing is, you don't understand it. Maybe you've never been in a fight, or maybe it's because you were/are a pro wrestling fan, I duno.

maybe I'm drunk and should shut the fuck up and stop rambling about nonsense I'll probably be embarrassed by this tomorrow.

[OptimoPeach]

“Brock went so far over the top, I can’t even put it into words,” White said. “WWE -- that’s what it is. We had a talk. We talked like men, and he said he was sorry. He said, ‘I’m embarrassed by what I said.’ I take his word for it this time.”

http://sherdog.com/news/news/post-fight-antics-dim-lesnars-afterglow-at-ufc-100-18481

looooooooooooool

I'm gonna go pass out now

[OptimoPeach]

I'll probably be embarrassed by this tomorrow.

Hah, yeah.

As a peace offering, I present the Buffer 360:
[youtube=560,345]AIW1SS8-S6o[/youtube]

[Andowsky]

Awesome performance by Lesnar. Proved his only loss was a fluke. Don't see anyone in the UFC's weak HW division that can take him down without getting some vicious knockout strike out of nowhere.

  @ butthurt UFC elitists. bububuu lesnar is tainting out sport! bubu he desecrated bud light!!

Why are these same people cheering when Hendo puts a big shot on Bisping after he'd already knocked him out? That was more classless and unsportsmanlike than anything Brock did.

[chronovore]

I'm looking forward to watching this later this week, even though I lost a hunnerd on Mir -- to much wishful thinking about dojo ethics compared to brute strength. 

The late blow talk looks like bullshit:
http://rorr.im/digg.com/other_sports/ultimate_gif_henderson_kos_bisping/

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He KTFO'd bisping, but all he knows is the guy's on his back; they're obliged to fight until the referee stops it, and Yamasaki's to blame if anyone is.

[pilonv1]

Awesome performance by Lesnar. Proved his only loss was a fluke. Don't see anyone in the UFC's weak HW division that can take him down without getting some vicious knockout strike out of nowhere.

  @ butthurt UFC elitists. bububuu lesnar is tainting out sport! bubu he desecrated bud light!!

Why are these same people cheering when Hendo puts a big shot on Bisping after he'd already knocked him out? That was more classless and unsportsmanlike than anything Brock did.

Or what about Mike Tyson saying he will eat someones children?

[Hollywood]

Awesome performance by Lesnar. Proved his only loss was a fluke. Don't see anyone in the UFC's weak HW division that can take him down without getting some vicious knockout strike out of nowhere.

  @ butthurt UFC elitists. bububuu lesnar is tainting out sport! bubu he desecrated bud light!!

Why are these same people cheering when Hendo puts a big shot on Bisping after he'd already knocked him out? That was more classless and unsportsmanlike than anything Brock did.

I don't see how being 1-1 against Mir proves his loss was a fluke. Why couldn't this one have been the fluke? Honestly, its probably not, I don't think much of Mir as a fighter but that kind of logic is stupid. Going 1-1 without much of a track record its kind of difficult to say if it was a fluke or not, he hasn't fought enough.

Lesnar plays the heel role perfectly. He's a prick and I would like to see him lose, but that post fight interview was perfect to pump him up and make people want to dislike him. Even if Dana lectured him on it, he just pissed off a lot of people a lot more and wanting to see him lose.

So for why people don't like Lesnar, probably because he got a title shot after two fights and went 1-1 in them, while it took guys like Machida 6 UFC fights and a 14-0 overall record before he even got a shot. That wasn't right. Sure he won, but that doesn't justify him getting that opportunity. I'm sure potentially a lot of unproven heavyweights could have probably beaten a 45 (now 46) Randy Couture after a 1 year layoff given the opportunity. The hardest part of UFC is just getting the opportunity, there's so few available with their fight schedule, and he got it handed to him. Anyone can win on any given night, and he did, the difficult part is putting up a great resume just to get the shot at the title, and he didn't do that, so it feels really cheap.

Also his style of fighting is disliked. That's not taking away from his wins, but watching him fight it feels kind of cheap when he wins. He kind of just lays on the guy and hits hammer fists and uses uses close range punching while he's "blanketing" the guy to win. That's fine, I'm not saying it doesn't count as a win. I'm just saying its not very exciting, so it feels anticlimatic. I kinda compare him to Lennox Lewis' boring ass length advantage to pepper guys with jabs to win mostly boring fights.

Also it really sucks as well when thats how he wins and because of UFC's ridiculously stupid fight scheduling, this really could be his only title defense of 2009. Really, thats it? Chances are, we're waiting until January or December to see the Nog/Couture winner get a shot at the title, so he gets another huge ass layoff after a non competitive fight. That's one of the most frustrating things about UFC in its current form - you can forget a ton of title defenses or a lot of opportunities for different fighters because some guys spend 8 months between fights. I really hope he gets back in the Octagon in October or so against a decent challenger. Velasquez or whoever, I don't care, but there's no reason for him to be waiting around.

[chronovore]

Yeah, I think you've got it spot-on. I like Mir, like that he's about discipline and expressing himself without a lot of invective, liked that he was willing to break Sylvia's arm back in the day when Sylvia was either too stupid or gung-ho to realize he should tap. -pop-

Lesnar's a big jerk, or at least wants to come off as one on the big screen because of his WWE background, but pissing on the event's giant (and to-date arguably the most legitimate, mainstream) sponsor is not something he could have claimed "heel" over even under McMahon's drama-centric juggernaut. If the goal of inciting a reaction is increased excitement, drawing more willing sponsors, it's probably best not to pee on their foreheads.

Lesnar appears to have apologized to everybody except Mir, which says he's still a bad sport. I am hoping for a rubber match in 2010.

And, yeah, it's criminal how long it took Lyoto to get a shot at the title, and his first defense is against Shogun? Really? You'd think that Rampage or Forrest would be a stronger #2 ranked contender for the title. What the heck is with that?

[Andowsky]

I'm looking forward to watching this later this week, even though I lost a hunnerd on Mir -- to much wishful thinking about dojo ethics compared to brute strength. 

The late blow talk looks like bullshit:
http://rorr.im/digg.com/other_sports/ultimate_gif_henderson_kos_bisping/

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He KTFO'd bisping, but all he knows is the guy's on his back; they're obliged to fight until the referee stops it, and Yamasaki's to blame if anyone is.

He said multiple times he knew the guy was out and just wanted to give him something extra to shut him up. Of course, the UFC was quick to run some damage control and say he was joking, just like they were quick with the DC for Brock's antics. These guys are trained fighters who know when someone is out. I was watching on TV and knew the dude was knocked the fuck out right when he fell. A guy like Hendo didn't realize that? And just because you're suppose to fight until the ref stops you doesn't mean you drop a vicious elbow on a dude who is out cold. He could have done real damage doing that. I would love to see the reaction if Brock did the same thing.

Just watched the gif in your link... really? Hendo even looks at him laying there knocked out then still drops the elbow. A thousand times more classless than Brock letting us know he was going to mount Sable later.

[Andowsky]

I don't see how being 1-1 against Mir proves his loss was a fluke. Why couldn't this one have been the fluke? Honestly, its probably not, I don't think much of Mir as a fighter but that kind of logic is stupid. Going 1-1 without much of a track record its kind of difficult to say if it was a fluke or not, he hasn't fought enough.

Yeah Brock is 1-1 against him but the one loss was a fight where he was in total control and likely would have won had the ref not stood them up. Not to mention Brock lost because it was his first fight and he made a stupid mistake. Mir got one break in the first fight and took it. Brock dominated him for the entire fight Saturday night. Aside from one knee, Mir didn't do anything. Brock would beat Mir in any rematch. What is Mir going to do, keep Brock on his feet and make it a striking match? Yeah good luck with that. I agree that he got a title shot too early but the HW division is not very good right now.

Do people who hate the way Brock wins also hate the way Gracie used to win, using his limber body and small frame to get people into all sorts of submissions? It takes skill to get a guy like Mir to the ground and it takes skill to get into a position to be able to "lay on him" in a position where he cannot defend himself very well. These are all world class athletes and fighters.

[OptimoPeach]

Do people who hate the way Brock wins also hate the way Gracie used to win, using his limber body and small frame to get people into all sorts of submissions? It takes skill to get a guy like Mir to the ground and it takes skill to get into a position to be able to "lay on him" in a position where he cannot defend himself very well. These are all world class athletes and fighters.

Craptastic analogy. Finesse != brute strength. Royce was winning fights despite being dwarfed by his opponents, Lesnar is doing the exact opposite. I do agree that he's legit, though.

And you're making something out of nothing with Bisping/Hendo. I could probably list about 20 fights that were worse than that.

You'd think that Rampage...would be a stronger #2 ranked contender for the title. What the heck is with that?

Rampage is busy dodging Machida on TUF

[Hollywood]

Do people who hate the way Brock wins also hate the way Gracie used to win, using his limber body and small frame to get people into all sorts of submissions? It takes skill to get a guy like Mir to the ground and it takes skill to get into a position to be able to "lay on him" in a position where he cannot defend himself very well. These are all world class athletes and fighters.

Craptastic analogy. Finesse != brute strength. Royce was winning fights despite being dwarfed by his opponents, Lesnar is doing the exact opposite. I do agree that he's legit, though.

And you're making something out of nothing with Bisping/Hendo. I could probably list about 20 fights that were worse than that.

You'd think that Rampage...would be a stronger #2 ranked contender for the title. What the heck is with that?

Rampage is busy dodging Machida on TUF

Agreed, the Gracie analogy isn't really the same. Like I said, its not like he didn't earn the win, but many people would like to see him face someone really talented where he wouldn't be able to get away with that stuff.

[OptimoPeach]

These are the only late hits I have in gif form. Crocop/Aleksander and Gomi/Azeredo are notable, but I can't find those. Oh, and Fedor was all ready to pound Arlovski's lifeless body before the ref stepped in.

[chronovore]

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Holy. Crap. WHERE'S YO' MOUFPIECE AT, d00d? WHERE IT AT?

That's pretty impressive.

He said multiple times he knew the guy was out and just wanted to give him something extra to shut him up. Of course, the UFC was quick to run some damage control and say he was joking, just like they were quick with the DC for Brock's antics. These guys are trained fighters who know when someone is out. I was watching on TV and knew the dude was knocked the fuck out right when he fell. A guy like Hendo didn't realize that? And just because you're suppose to fight until the ref stops you doesn't mean you drop a vicious elbow on a dude who is out cold. He could have done real damage doing that. I would love to see the reaction if Brock did the same thing.

Just watched the gif in your link... really? Hendo even looks at him laying there knocked out then still drops the elbow. A thousand times more classless than Brock letting us know he was going to mount Sable later.

Yeah, really. Watching that in slo-mo is not the same as real time; he may or may not be debating in that half step he does before jumping in on the superman punch (not an elbow). Hendo can say whatever he wants about punishing the guy, but that could be adrenaline as much as anything else. And as OptimusPeachPrime has shown, this is pretty common to get in there and keep going until someone tells you to stop. Look at some of the other fights where the guy has gone out for a MOMENT and then come back; let the ref stop the fight instead of getting a nasty surprise.