Author Topic: Evilbore GAME OF THE YEAR Thread: Vote Now! (Read 16464 times)

Himu · « **Reply #60 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:07:49 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 12, 2006, 01:00:33 PM

Actually, TP's entire existence is repetitious. It's the 4th console Zelda game in a row that plays identically to its predecessor, except in a new environment. The series hasn't really evolved since OoT.

Wrong. The first half has a good balance of story, dungeon crawling, and a nice variety of gameplay, much like your much beloved Okami.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #61 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:09:45 PM »

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My suggestion to those who say it doesn't belong on this thread: play the game.

We HAVE played it, doofus. I have the Gamecube copy -- the DEFINITIVE version with ACTUAL CAMERA CONTROLS no less -- right here.

Nostalgia and franchise fetishism don't get to factor into Game of the Year awards, hummo. Okami innovates whereas Zelda duplicates on the same formula. Just vote for Okami and accept that Zelda, as a sort of inferior subset of it's innovation and quality, is getting recognized as well!

TVC15 · « **Reply #62 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:11:05 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on December 12, 2006, 01:07:49 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 12, 2006, 01:00:33 PM

Actually, TP's entire existence is repetitious. It's the 4th console Zelda game in a row that plays identically to its predecessor, except in a new environment. The series hasn't really evolved since OoT.

Wrong. The first half has a good balance of story, dungeon crawling, and a nice variety of gameplay, much like your much beloved Okami.

But the "story" is a drawn-out, boring retelling of the same ol' Zelda story. I don't want Zelda to have a story. I want to get right to collecting the so many magical wobblihoos that I need to save the princess. Give me dungeons, fuck villages.

Himu · « **Reply #63 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:11:19 PM »

Yeah I'm sure, Drinky. And that just came out today or something, right? You've put a decent amount of time into it? Or did you simply play for 30 minutes and then claim Ogaymii better?

Himu · « **Reply #64 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:12:34 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 12, 2006, 01:11:05 PM

But the "story" is a drawn-out, boring retelling of the same ol' Zelda story. I don't want Zelda to have a story. I want to get right to collecting the so many magical wobblihoos that I need to save the princess. Give me dungeons, fuck villages.

It has the same core principles, but hardly the same story.

So you don't want Zelda to have story but you don't mind Ohgaymii's lack of deep gameplay and overly cinematic feel. Right.

The Xenosaga of action adventures.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #65 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:13:14 PM »

Dude, I'm gonna scribble up a FULL, OBJECTIVE REVIEW -- from the perspective of someone who digs the game formula but hates the Link character and has no real nostalgia for Nintendo -- soon enough, and you can pick at it then.

Himu · « **Reply #66 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:14:42 PM »

You guys can give up the shtick right now, because it's obvious you're not even attempting to like the game because it's by "gay nintenjew lol"

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #67 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:15:04 PM »

Okami has incredibly deep gameplay -- far deeper than Zelda. Okami's environments are more interactive, and the features of them hidden more cunningly. Okami has more items, more combat moves, more weapon variety, and a better level-up/customization system. Zelda has what: a few extra mini-games? Do you even grok what "deep" means, duder?

I do in fact consider Okami having a story to be a strike against it, as much as I consider it to be a strike against Zelda.

TVC15 · « **Reply #68 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:15:35 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on December 12, 2006, 01:12:34 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 12, 2006, 01:11:05 PM
But the "story" is a drawn-out, boring retelling of the same ol' Zelda story. I don't want Zelda to have a story. I want to get right to collecting the so many magical wobblihoos that I need to save the princess. Give me dungeons, fuck villages.

It has the same core principles, but hardly the same story.

So you don't want Zelda to have story but you don't mind Ohgaymii's lack of deep gameplay and overly cinematic feel. Right.

The Xenosaga of action adventures.

No, I don't want Zelda to have a story. I want to get right to the dungeons.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #69 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:20:55 PM »

If Zelda was a votable option, it would win.

Okami am Zelda ripoff total. For that reason, no GOTY for it.

I'm sorry you guys can't get over your anti-Nintendo bias.

TVC15 · « **Reply #70 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:23:24 PM »

Quote from: Bloodwake on December 12, 2006, 01:20:55 PM

If Zelda was a votable option, it would win.

Okami am Zelda ripoff total. For that reason, no GOTY for it.

I'm sorry you guys can't get over your anti-Nintendo bias.

It's a good game, but it's not the game of the year. Why is that so hard to understand? I didn't even vote for Okami. R6 is better than both Zelda and Okami. Nintendo fans are just so software-starved that they have to convince themselves that every release is OMG BEST GAME EVER. Zelda hasn't evolved in nearly a decade, why should it be getting GOTY props?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #71 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:26:44 PM »

It would win because of nostalgia and console bias, not quality. Nintendo could package shit with Link stamped on the box -- wait, they have, it's gonna be called Phantom Hourglass -- and some of you would vote it GotY regardless.

Line up the features, visuals, sounds and innovations, and Okami beats TP in almost all if not ALL categories. You shouldn't prevent Okami from getting the credit it's due just because the sight of a swishy garden gnome in green tights makes you a little light in the loafers, or because a few dinky MIDI samples transport you back to the halcyon days of morbidly obese childhood.

Himu · « **Reply #72 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:27:10 PM »

The fact you don't think it's GOTY is not the issue. The issue is that the fact it, and Gears, were excluded because they don't fit the MAF-Drinky-TVC group think sensabilities, and they are excluded on the poll in fear that they would win. Which is bullshit.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #73 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:29:09 PM »

No, we're just not console-biased. We don't shit bricks for franchises and nitpick NEW ORIGINAL IPs all the while giving the tired franchises a free pass because they tweak our kiddy glands.

Himu · « **Reply #74 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:29:35 PM »

You have Final Fantasy fucking V on there, chief. A rerelease of a 10 year + old game.

Bacon · « **Reply #75 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:29:54 PM »

I suppose adding new game mechanics like the wolf senses, horseback combat, or new items like the spinner, etc. aren't an evolution.

TP is going to be a more ciritcal/financial success than Okami. I guess everyone other than Drinky/TVC is just caught up in the nostalgia. Too bad so sad. :'(

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #76 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:30:14 PM »

I put about 120 hours into Oblivion, and I don't even like RPGs. I still haven't finished, because I saved two of the Guilds for a different character. Enemies that level with you keeps the challenge up.

Again, no Oblivion, no vote. You guys can continue circle jerking amongst yourselves, and give the one who nuts first a special prize.

Vizzys · « **Reply #77 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:30:34 PM »

Himuro is correct, but I think thats taking this a bit too seriously. I voted for castlevania!

Himu · « **Reply #78 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:30:51 PM »

Okami is weaksauce, I repeat.

It deserved to bomb.

TVC15 · « **Reply #79 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:31:35 PM »

Quote from: Bacon on December 12, 2006, 01:29:54 PM

TP is going to be a more ciritcal/financial success than Okami. I guess everyone other than Drinky/TVC is just caught up in the nostalgia. Too bad so sad. :'(

Basically. I think the success of Brain Training, Nintendogs, and third rate GTA clones has conclusively shown that gamers largely don't know what's good for themselves.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #80 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:32:12 PM »

horseback combat's a mini-game, and the rest are just the routine and all-too-few "new items" added in each Zelda refresh, The Celestial Brush is a completely new and GESTURAL rethink of the entire item usage system in this subgenre, and it works fabulously.

Himu · « **Reply #81 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:32:31 PM »

A mini game.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #82 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:32:54 PM »

Eel: I'll add Oblivion. I thought it was released last year for some reason.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #83 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:34:14 PM »

THANK YOU!

I'm voting for Viva Pinata.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

just kidding

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demi · « **Reply #84 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:34:41 PM »

I vote Kingdom Hearts II

Bacon · « **Reply #85 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:35:36 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 12, 2006, 01:31:35 PM

Quote from: Bacon on December 12, 2006, 01:29:54 PM

TP is going to be a more ciritcal/financial success than Okami. I guess everyone other than Drinky/TVC is just caught up in the nostalgia. Too bad so sad. :'(

Basically. I think the success of Brain Training, Nintendo Dogs, and third rate GTA clones has conclusively shown that gamers largely don't know what's good for themselves.

God forbid people get interested in new games or IPs like Brain Training/Nintendogs instead of turn based DQ #11.

Painting is a minigame.

Himu · « **Reply #86 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:36:47 PM »

Drawing bombs and lines through enemies is more of a mini game than the raft boat mini game on Zelda.

Okami is a non-game confirmed.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #87 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:37:16 PM »

I'm glad I got Brainify Yourself for free when I bought my DS. I would have been pretty pissed had I spent money on it

BLOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Bacon · « **Reply #88 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:38:11 PM »

I think Okami would be a lot more fun with the Wii remote.

Himu · « **Reply #89 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:38:39 PM »

You know what? So do I.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #90 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:39:17 PM »

Do you think Okami is one of those games that will be impossible to find in a few months, or will it come down in price fairly quickly? I want to play it, but I don't want to spend more than 20 actual cash dollars on Ps2 games (I bought my ps2 solely for use as a cheap game system).

demi · « **Reply #91 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:40:03 PM »

Okami will not be hard to find or a rare gem, what Capcom game is?

Himu · « **Reply #92 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:40:48 PM »

I've seen it all over the place. Good thing too, because it's weaksauce and a waste of 40 dollars. No one wants Okami.

I sold my Okami and bought the Devil Summoner guide with the money. Too bad I still don't have it, or I'd sell that piece of shit for 10.

Himu · « **Reply #93 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:41:19 PM »

Quote from: demi on December 12, 2006, 01:40:03 PM

Okami will not be hard to find or a rare gem, what Capcom game is?

Megaman Zero games

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #94 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:41:23 PM »

should be easy to find. Capcom made a ton of copies, and it hasn't exactly set store shelves alight.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #95 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:41:54 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on December 12, 2006, 01:27:10 PM

The fact you don't think it's GOTY is not the issue. The issue is that the fact it, and Gears, were excluded because they don't fit the MAF-Drinky-TVC group think sensabilities, and they are excluded on the poll in fear that they would win. Which is bullshit.

QFT

demi · « **Reply #96 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:42:23 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on December 12, 2006, 01:41:19 PM

Quote from: demi on December 12, 2006, 01:40:03 PM
Okami will not be hard to find or a rare gem, what Capcom game is?

Megaman Zero games

Ok, most of their portable outings fetch a nice price on eBay.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #97 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:43:39 PM »

They *would* win, just like how American Idol folks pick Clay Aiken despite far superior and more proficient competitors. Zelda is the Clay Aiken of this genre, and we're doing y'all a favor by enforcing a little taste.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #98 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:44:18 PM »

Quote from: demi on December 12, 2006, 01:40:03 PM

Okami will not be hard to find or a rare gem, what Capcom game is?

Well, I don't really know how this shit works. I don't pay attention to sales data or whatever.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #99 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:45:32 PM »

Cart games always get smaller print runs, because Nintendo controls the fab and because carts cost more upfront for the publisher to produce. Disc-based games are always easy to find.

Himu · « **Reply #100 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:46:54 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on December 12, 2006, 01:45:32 PM

Cart games always get smaller print runs, because Nintendo controls the fab and because carts cost more upfront for the publisher to produce. Disc-based games are always easy to find.

And what about the rare ones like Panzer Dragoon Saga?

Bacon · « **Reply #101 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:48:08 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on December 12, 2006, 01:43:39 PM

They *would* win, just like how American Idol folks pick Clay Aiken despite far superior and more proficient competitors. Zelda is the Clay Aiken of this genre, and we're doing y'all a favor by enforcing a little taste.

I don't think Clay Aiken recieves the same critical success as Link.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #102 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:50:30 PM »

Do we have videogame critics? Entertainment Weekly loved Clay Aiken.

TVC15 · « **Reply #103 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:50:35 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on December 12, 2006, 01:46:54 PM

Quote from: Drinky Crow on December 12, 2006, 01:45:32 PM
Cart games always get smaller print runs, because Nintendo controls the fab and because carts cost more upfront for the publisher to produce. Disc-based games are always easy to find.

And what about the rare ones like Panzer Dragoon Saga?

That's easy. It was a Saturn game made near the end of the Saturn lifecycle. Why should Sega have made a zillion copies when they had probably stopped manufacturing consoles by that point?

Bacon · « **Reply #104 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:51:39 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on December 12, 2006, 01:50:30 PM

Do we have videogame critics? Entertainment Weekly loved Clay Aiken.

I know TVC has said that he respects Gametrailer reviews as of late. They loved Zelda.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #105 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:54:28 PM »

Zelda's a great game. So are lots of other games I left off that list.

demi · « **Reply #106 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:55:50 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on December 12, 2006, 01:50:30 PM

Do we have videogame critics? Entertainment Weekly loved Clay Aiken.

Me, and I love Clay Aiken

Give it a chance.

TVC15 · « **Reply #107 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:56:32 PM »

Quote from: Bacon on December 12, 2006, 01:51:39 PM

Quote from: Drinky Crow on December 12, 2006, 01:50:30 PM
Do we have videogame critics? Entertainment Weekly loved Clay Aiken.

I know TVC has said that he respects Gametrailer reviews as of late. They loved Zelda.

I like Zelda, too!

(also, I find some of their reviews wonky, but I believe they are genuinely the best reviewers on the web. Their reviews are short, concise, show you good and bad bits of games, and they tend to focus on the things that really matter)

Bacon · « **Reply #108 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:57:33 PM »

I said loved. I'm sure it will be on their GOTY list.

TVC15 · « **Reply #109 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:58:18 PM »

Quote from: Bacon on December 12, 2006, 01:57:33 PM

I said loved. I'm sure it will be on their GOTY list.

I'm at a point where it takes something special for me to "love" a non-multiplayer game. Viva Pinata I loved.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #110 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:59:48 PM »

Twilight Princess, just by counting WTF NO TWILIGHT PRINCESS replies to this thread, would be winning the poll if it were an option. It would have at least four votes, maybe more (I couldn't tell if some were sarcasm or not, but there are at least four votes for TP, including mine and excluding the ones I was unsure about)

The real Evilbore GOTY is definitely Twilight Princess

Bacon · « **Reply #111 on:** December 12, 2006, 02:01:06 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 12, 2006, 01:58:18 PM

Quote from: Bacon on December 12, 2006, 01:57:33 PM
I said loved. I'm sure it will be on their GOTY list.

I'm at a point where it takes something special for me to "love" a non-multiplayer game. Viva Pinata I loved.

Dragon Quest IX sounds right up your alley.

TVC15 · « **Reply #112 on:** December 12, 2006, 02:04:17 PM »

Quote from: Bacon on December 12, 2006, 02:01:06 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 12, 2006, 01:58:18 PM
Quote from: Bacon on December 12, 2006, 01:57:33 PM
I said loved. I'm sure it will be on their GOTY list.

I'm at a point where it takes something special for me to "love" a non-multiplayer game. Viva Pinata I loved.

Dragon Quest IX sounds right up your alley.

:p

Like I said in the DQ9 thread, it's change of gameplay concerns me just as much as it's switch to DS. DQ is where I want the game to be ultra-traditional.

Himu · « **Reply #113 on:** December 12, 2006, 02:08:14 PM »

Quote from: Bloodwake on December 12, 2006, 01:59:48 PM

Twilight Princess, just by counting WTF NO TWILIGHT PRINCESS replies to this thread, would be winning the poll if it were an option. It would have at least four votes, maybe more (I couldn't tell if some were sarcasm or not, but there are at least four votes for TP, including mine and excluding the ones I was unsure about)

The real Evilbore GOTY is definitely Twilight Princess

Forget it dude.

Oblivion · « **Reply #114 on:** December 12, 2006, 02:27:05 PM »

Aren't Okami's dungeons pretty weak? That bebpo guy on GAF was jizzing about the game when he first got it but even he said the dungeons don't stack up to Zelda dungeons. And aren't the first several hours just as tedious as TP?

Also, isn't Okami even easier than Wind Waker?

One last thing, although Okami doesn't have to worry about any texture flaws due to the style, I gotta say I'm not too big a fan of the water color/oil painting look.

Solo · « **Reply #115 on:** December 12, 2006, 02:28:39 PM »

Ive only played Oblivion this year, so that wins by default. Even though its just a shinier turd than Morrowind.

Himu · « **Reply #116 on:** December 12, 2006, 02:29:18 PM »

Quote from: Oblivion on December 12, 2006, 02:27:05 PM

Aren't Okami's dungeons pretty weak? That bebpo guy on GAF was jizzing about the game when he first got it but even he said the dungeons don't stack up to Zelda dungeons. And aren't the first several hours just as tedious as TP?

Also, isn't Okami even easier than Wind Waker

Yes to all questions.

Okami is more story based than Zelda. Most of your time is spent in towns and in the overworld.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #117 on:** December 12, 2006, 03:05:11 PM »

God damn the whiners. This poll isnt like some official shit handed out by NPD, its an EVILBORE poll made by a standard member. If you dont LIKE the options DONT FUCKING VOTE. If youre a senior member or KNOW a senior member, make yer own fuckin poll. Jesus christ people....

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #118 on:** December 12, 2006, 03:57:48 PM »

I'll make a poll, lolz.

Himu · « **Reply #119 on:** December 12, 2006, 04:29:35 PM »

Why was Cajole's poll closed? It was a hell of a lot better than this one.

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Author Topic: Evilbore GAME OF THE YEAR Thread: Vote Now! (Read 16464 times)