DRAGON QUEST IX NINTENDONO DS EXCLUSIVE HAHAHAHA

[Diablos]

Actually, I'll probably buy the $500 one when the time is right.

Oh, and PS3 actually has games and will have games that'll interest me.
FF, MGS, Assassin's Creed, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, Lair, Warhawk, Virtua Tennis, Virtua Fighter, Motorstorm, Ninja Gaiden.
These are the ones I'm interested in and know of right NOW. By this time next year, PS3's going to have so many awesome games announced.

Sony might be in some trouble, but it's beyond foolish to count them out. It still has potential and I honestly cannot see it flopping.

[The Fake Shemp]

Half those games are bargain bin titles at best.  The two AAA ones will come out on the PS3 when it's like, $399 or $350.

[Diablos]

Bargain bin titles at best? You're on crack.

The point is, I'd rather spend $500 on something that has games that I want, opposed to the Wii, which at this point hassss... Dragon Quest. Yeah.

Sorry, I enjoyed DQ8, but Wii is going to need a lot more to make me spend $250 for just one game.

[The Fake Shemp]

Standard ManaByte reply, which makes sense, since you have the videogame equivalent of his movie taste.

So instead of paying for "overpriced old tech" you'll pay for "overpriced bargain bin crap".  MAKES SENSE TO ME

[Diablos]

Your idea of what overpriced bargain bin crap is seems pretty out of touch with the mainstream.

[Himu]

Actually, I'll probably buy the $500 one when the time is right.

Oh, and PS3 actually has games and will have games that'll interest me.
FF, MGS, Assassin's Creed, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, Lair, Warhawk, Virtua Tennis, Virtua Fighter, Motorstorm, Ninja Gaiden.
These are the ones I'm interested in and know of right NOW. By this time next year, PS3's going to have so many awesome games announced.

Sony might be in some trouble, but it's beyond foolish to count them out. It still has potential and I honestly cannot see it flopping.

AC, Virtua Tennis, and Ninja Gaiden aren't exclusive. In fact, Ninja Gaiden is on the fucking Xbox 1. Only the Sonybots are excited about that game.

FFXIII looks gay.

MGS and DMC4 are now rumoed to be heading to the 360.

Motorstorm, Heavenly Storm, Lair, and a few others look great in terms of the graphics, but the gameplay seems thin.

This leaves with the only truly worthwhile ps3 game: White Knight Story.

[The Fake Shemp]

Heavenly Sword? Lair? MOTORSTORM?

C'mon!

[Diablos]

AC, Virtua Tennis, and Ninja Gaiden aren't exclusive. In fact, Ninja Gaiden is on the fucking Xbox 1. Only the Sonybots are excited about that game.

But they're not going to be on Wii. Wii couldn't even do these games unless they were significantly scaled down to looking not even a half step above the Xbox or GameCube.

FFXIII looks gay.

It looks better than XII.

MGS and DMC4 are now rumoed to be heading to the 360.

Awesome, I like the 360. Note how they're not rumored to be going to Wii.

Motorstorm, Heavenly Storm, Lair, and a few others look great in terms of the graphics, but the gameplay seems thin.

Really? You played these games?

This leaves with the only truly worthwhile ps3 game: White Knight Story.

Brilliant conclusion, Himu. 

I did forget about that game, and it does look awesome. So, add it to the list.

Also, I expect to see some S-E titles on PS3 other than Final Fantasy. Maybe the new Valkyrie Profile, for example.

The point is, laugh at me if you want but I still find these games to be a lot more interesting than ANYTHING Wii has to offer outside of Dragon Quest, which won't appear on it for at least a couple years, since DQIX isn't due out until mid-2007. 360 has a lot of good games, and games that will be released later that interest me as well.

[Himu]

Really? You played these games?

No, I can tell. Either through impressions or the way the games are being presented.

[Diablos]

Really? You played these games?

No, I can tell. Either through impressions or the way the games are being presented.

YOU HAVE SPECIAL POWARS

Heavenly Sword looks badass, wah wah you can't jump. Obviously the game is set up to play in a different fashion.

[Himu]

It looks better than XII.

No. It does not. Despite XII's lack of story, atleast it attempted to mature the series. XIII looks like say some gay ass animu.

[The Fake Shemp]

I actually was at E3 and I can tell you that there wasn't one playable title that made anyone with me in the press corps want to buy a PS3.

The only people that were set were HD enthusiasts due to the Blu-Ray player and Sony fanbots that loved the console design and promise.

That's what the PS3 is - promise.

[Himu]

Why do you keep bringing up how these games aren't going to the Wii when 360 is my main pick for next gen console?

[The Fake Shemp]

BECUZ MAN U DONT KNOW ME U DONT KNOW ME PLAYSTATION 4 LYF3

[Diablos]

Why do you keep bringing up how these games aren't going to the Wii when 360 is my main pick for next gen console?

Because you're accusing me of being some sbot.

I prefer Sony, but I'm all about PS360 at the end of the day.

It looks better than XII.

No. It does not. Despite XII's lack of story, atleast it attempted to mature the series. XIII looks like say some gay ass animu.

Yeah, if pushing forward on the analog stick while the game plays itself is progress, then I guess FFXII has succeeded there.

[The Fake Shemp]

I'm all about the console that just has good games.  Drinky might be a blowhard, but even he'll swallow his 'tussin and buy whatever system has the stuff on it he likes to play.  Getting caught up in brand loyalty is stupid.

[Himu]

Yeah, if pushing forward on the analog stick while the game plays itself is progress, then I guess FFXII has succeeded there.

Atleast XII doesn't look like a distinguished mentally-challenged animu.

[Diablos]

I don't like Nintendo. I haven't since the NES days. Their games are not appealing to me. This is a matter of opinion. It's not against the law to be disinterested in Nintendo, sorry to inform you. I really don't think Nintendo has the appeal to come out on top this gen -- that'll be up to PS3 and 360. By the way, if I like two out of three consoles, I don't see myself as being too loyal to anything. Nintendo hasn't appealed to me since I was really young, and they probably never will again. I can always be proven wrong, but I don't really care either way -- it's the mass stupidity of you guys all getting your dicks hard over potential scenarios shouted off over Dragon Quest that makes me want to pull my hair out. Seriously.

Atleast XII doesn't look like a distinguished mentally-challenged animu.

Then it's embarrassing that this so-called "distinguished mentally-challenged animu" will likely still have better character development and a less plotholes than XII.

[Van Cruncheon]

It's not against the law to be disinterested in Nintendo

Not true.

Let there be no disinterest into that which is created under the auspices of the House That Yamauchi Built; nor let there be aspersions cast thereof; nor let those who would seek to impugn the character of Nintendo product have voice; and let their silence condemn it neither.

[The Fake Shemp]

Amen.

[Van Cruncheon]

FREEEEEDOMMMM!!!

[The Fake Shemp]

Silence, infidel!  You will waggle or you will die.

[Van Cruncheon]

Promise me the inquisition will take Diablos first.

[Diablos]

It's not against the law to be disinterested in Nintendo

Not true.

Let there be no disinterest into that which is created under the auspices of the House That Yamauchi Built; nor let there be aspersions cast thereof; nor let those who would seek to impugn the character of Nintendo product have voice; and let their silence condemn it neither.

 

[pollo]

Diablos youre sad and funny at the same time

I should try to bait you on that GAF thread. It'd be a meltdown of epic proportions.

But bleh, Im a busy guy. Ill just say it'd definately be funny seeing.

[Beezy]

How can anyone hate Nintendo during the NES-SNES days? Diablos must be the anti-Nintendo fanboy.

[Diablos]

I liked NES.
SNES was ok, but I preferred Genesis.
Everything went downhill after that.

Diablos youre sad and funny at the same time

I should try to bait you on that GAF thread. It'd be a meltdown of epic proportions.

But bleh, Im a busy guy. Ill just say it'd definately be funny seeing.

Thanks for reminding me to put you on ignore right now, both here and at GAF

[Flannel Boy]

Diablos earlier in the thread you said you didn't like the SNES, except for FF. How could anybody not love the SNES?

[Diablos]

Genesis > SNES

[Howard Alan Treesong]

What's next for Square Enix?

DQ10 for the DoCoMo X01i.
DQ11 for the TI-83.
DQ12 as a licensed White Wolf campaign.
DQ13 as an 8-page scenario outline published across 4 issues of Weekly JUMP.
DQ14 as a series of Happy Meal toys for McDonalds Japan.
DQ15 as something a guy your friend knows overheard Horii-san say at a party.
DQ16 as a memory of a time when games came out for consoles that connected to your television and were actually enjoyable to play.
There is no DQ17.

[Diablos]

Even if the show doesn't exist anymore, your posts deserve to always go to the top of the pops!

[The Fake Shemp]

Either you blatantly stole that from GAF or you have a joke character there, Patel

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Either you blatantly stole that from GAF or you have a joke character there, Patel

I stole it from a conversation I had with my friend. He may have stolen it from GAF!

If they didn't want it stolen they should have put a lock on the thread.

[The Fake Shemp]

I know who your friend is lolz

[Howard Alan Treesong]

How! How do you know!

[Himu]

Chris Kohler posted this in his blog:

Tuesday, 12 December 2006
Dragon Quest on DS: What It Means
Topic: Japan,Portable Gaming



I think everyone can agree that today's announcement that Dragon Quest IX will appear on Nintendo DS is shocking and meaningful, but I imagine that not everyone is quite sure why. Certainly it is a bad day to be Sony, who just lost another major exclusive. Dragon Quest VIII was the best-selling PlayStation 2 game in Japan. Not the best-selling RPG or the best-selling Square Enix game -- the single biggest PS2 game, ever.

Beyond that, though, there are many things to consider, which I'll be trying to work out after the jump (or below, depending on how you got here).

There were rumblings that Square Enix would indeed announce Dragon Quest IX at this press event. Mostly because they wouldn't hold a big to-do like this without something really major to show, and the other options -- a spin-off, or a remake of an older game -- weren't going to cut it.

However, there was one big reason that they wouldn't show off DQIX -- because it's too early to decide what next-generation system should be the home of Japan's biggest franchise. Square Enix has traditionally waited to see what the outcome of the console wars would be before committing Dragon Quest to a platform. This is why DQVII and DQVIII arrived so late in the lifecycles of PlayStation 1 and 2, respectively -- because Square Enix didn't start development until they were sure the audience was there.

But there was a third outcome that none of us had considered, and that was that DQIX might appear on Nintendo DS. If we take as gospel the fact that Dragon Quest goes to the system with the highest userbase, it makes sense. DS is on track to outsell every other game console in the history of Japan.

Not to mention the fact that the DS, both as a product and in its branding and image, is an embodiment of the feeling that the DQ series seeks to embrace. DQ is played by hardcore gamer nerds, sure, but it's also for little kids and moms and dads and retirees. It's a simple, accessible game for everybody. It's Japan's equivalent of Disney movies.

In that sense, why not put it on DS? The only real barrier was that the Dragon Quest games had always been on home consoles. But it's getting to the point where there's no difference. Sure, it's not going to look as pretty as Dragon Quest VIII, but the screenshots that have been released prove that the Nintendo DS has no trouble with Akira Toriyama's art style. Plus, DQVIII was really the only game in the series that exuded any sort of technical prowess, anyway. Dragon Quest 7 looked like total ass for a PSone game and Japan bought four million of them.

DQIX might be the first four-million-selling game on Nintendo DS.

That's something else. Square Enix stands to rake it in on this. They could spend three years and 30 million dollars making DQIX for PlayStation 3, then barely scrape that money back. Or they could make a killing on DQIX while they wait. You might call this opportunistic; I call it Nintendo's business strategy coming into its own. You might say that this heralds the death of home gaming consoles; I say there's no reason Wii can't do the same thing.

Also requiring some thought is the new direction the gameplay is taking. Dragon Quest VIII was a staunchly traditional RPG that outright rejected change -- besides the graphics, it felt very much like a game from fifteen years ago. But Dragon Quest IX features a real-time battle system and a four-player mode. Square Enix isn't particularly forthcoming about how the four-player online game and the single-player mode will be balanced, or which is the "main" mode. But since it'll be released next year, we won't have to wait long to find out.

Speaking of which, the timing of this announcement must also be considered. It's the week before Jump Festa, of course, at which Square Enix will have a sprawling booth filled with playable, anticipated titles. But it's also just weeks before the release of Dragon Quest Monsters Joker, a Pokemon-styled monster-collecting-battling spinoff of the main series.

DQMJ was already pretty much guaranteed to go over a million units on the strength of the franchise and the fact that it looks pretty damn good. But now, Dragon Quest lovers know that they'll need a Nintendo DS to play the next game in their favorite series. And with a spinoff game out this month, quite a few of them will decide that it's the right time to take the plunge.

I don't even want to speculate, now, what Nintendo DS sales will be in Japan over the holiday. It'll make the 900,000 units they moved in November here in the US look like a rounding error.

There are still, I'm sure, some holdouts who believe DQIX to be a stopgap measure and that the tenth game in the series could still appear on PlayStation 3. But it won't. Because between DQ Monsters this year and DQIX/DQ Swords the next, Square Enix is sending a very strong message to the Dragon Quest fan base: buy Nintendo hardware. They're not going to pull a fast one on them a year from now and say, "Just kidding, suckers! If you want DQX, it's time to pony up 60,000 yen for PlayStation 3!"

Not going to happen. I think the only question that remains is whether they'll keep the series portable, or release DQX for the home. And ultimately the answer will only come after we see the sales of Wii and PS3. If Wii can dominate the market DS-style, then it's entirely possible.

But that's hardly guaranteed: for all Sony's problems, they're still Sony. And with Xbox 360 having completely shit the bed, PlayStation 3 is the only choice in Japan for anyone who's looking for the full high-end upscale entertainment experience -- which, say what you will about Japan's taste in gaming, is still a whole lot of people. And they've got the lock on Final Fantasy.

And yet, if DQIX is truly a sign of a turning tide, the fact that the Nintendo DS is getting loaded up with Final Fantasy games (Revenant Wings, Crystal Chronicles, III, and God knows what else), it could be the Nintendo DS lineup that's seen as the true continuation of the Final Fantasy series, and the PS3 games might become less relevant. I know that sounds crazy but hey, Dragon Quest IX is on DS. Welcome to Crazytown.

[Mandark]

This is a good thing for me.  I don't have the cash to justify a PS3 purchase, and what makes a DQ game good (when they're good) has nothing to do with technology.

On the other hand, they might decide to combine DQ7's visuals with DQ8's dumbed-down customization, which would really suck.