Author Topic: Inglourious Basterds (Read 20054 times)

Tucah · « **Reply #60 on:** August 23, 2009, 03:52:44 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on August 23, 2009, 04:29:38 AM

Best movie I've seen all year so far and will probably be film of the year at the end since Scorsese's Shutter Island looks kinda generic from the trailer.

Shutter Island's not even 2009 anymore

But on the topic of IB, saw it last night. Showing was packed, and I actually had to go to a later showing than I wanted because the next three shows were sold out by the time I got to the movie theater. I absolutely loved the movie. Lots of dialogue and tension, but it was all great, great stuff. The little spurts of violence here and there were good, and the whole last act was fantastic. I was a little surprised to see that Brad Pitt/the Basterds weren't actually in the movie all that much, but Pitt especially was great whenever he was on screen. Christoph Waltz was fantastic as Hans, all of his scenes were great and I hope he at least gets and Oscar nod for the role. Such a great film. I went in with relatively low expectations due to the mediocre trailers, and walked out extremely impressed.

Oh, and Diane Kruger

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #61 on:** August 23, 2009, 07:04:44 PM »

This was a frustrating movie to me.

Christopher Waltz was fantastic as "The Jew Hunter" and all the praise he gets is deserved. He crafts a remarkably compelling villain, second only to Ralph Feinnes in terms of all-time great Nazi villains.

Tarantino also displays maturity as a filmmaker, mostly out of necessity, as he is unable to pepper lengthy amounts of dialogue with pop-culture references on account of the time period. The violence is also reigned in. He builds tension masterfully with entire scenes that are nothing more than two or more people having a discussion at a table. Good stuff.

That said, if he had reigned it entirely, and I'm talking about his irritating reliance on temp tracks (recycled not just from other films, but other Tarantino films), kitschy chapter titles and other Tarantino "homage" geekisms - we'd be talking about a great film.

As is, it's a good film that flirts with greatness, and that's what's so damn frustrating.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #62 on:** August 23, 2009, 07:22:27 PM »

I can see what you mean. When the Kill Bill "whistling" track cued up it was pretty jarring, and didn't really fit the scene at all. None of the other Tarantino eccentricities bothered me though, and I actually really liked some of the music he chose.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #63 on:** August 23, 2009, 07:30:33 PM »

Tarantino never picks bad music, but they're so connected to his quirks that the selections become jarring. Not only were there a couple of cues lifted straight from Kill Bill (which was, in turn, lifted from other films), he once again pillages his Ennio Morricone iPod playlist that I associate with other films.

A truly original soundtrack that resonated with the film, would've done a great deal of good.

His eccentricities were unnecessary and only took away from the film. He was close to making something that didn't feel like it had to use his quirks as a crutch, but ultimately stops short.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #64 on:** August 24, 2009, 01:02:38 AM »

'The violence is also reigned in.'

'That said, if he had reigned it entirely, '

goddammit Willco now you're just doing it on purpose!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #65 on:** August 24, 2009, 01:06:56 AM »

Haha, that I actually did.

chronovore · « **Reply #66 on:** August 24, 2009, 02:21:36 AM »

Hopefully Japan's love affair with QT means this will open before next year. Any of you Japanboritos know fer sure?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #67 on:** August 24, 2009, 02:29:48 AM »

Quote from: chronovore on August 24, 2009, 02:21:36 AM

Hopefully Japan's love affair with QT means this will open before next year. Any of you Japanboritos know fer sure?

IMDB says October 3.

chronovore · « **Reply #68 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:43:35 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 24, 2009, 02:29:48 AM

Quote from: chronovore on August 24, 2009, 02:21:36 AM
Hopefully Japan's love affair with QT means this will open before next year. Any of you Japanboritos know fer sure?

IMDB says October 3.

W00t! Bless yer heart, thanks.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #69 on:** August 24, 2009, 06:44:44 AM »

It wasn't a great movie but I wouldn't have minded paying a few bucks less for it at a matinee price.

The whole movie felt like a comic book movie though trying to mesh some hyper violent fantasies with actual racial persecution and that of course can't work that well. The movie failed though at anything involving german propoganda and racial cleansing, those sections felt so half-assed/unrealistic that I couldn't care about any of the characters that died, which was most of the main characters.

I liked the landa guy, but I think the movie would have been better if it only focused on the bastards doing their deeds. It really, really, really needed to flesh out the characters in the movie more which it just couldn't do with the skipping through chapter arcs and everything (the fucking british guy was in two consecutive scenes). It is possible that maybe Tarantino is trying to criticize the stereotypes of the good and bad guys of WW2 sort of movies but the fact that the german culture of the time is also a major target of criticism of this movie makes me doubt that.

I don't really know what the point of this movie was but the basic concept feels flawed.

Veidt · « **Reply #70 on:** August 24, 2009, 07:15:26 AM »

It's ok.

Himu · « **Reply #71 on:** August 24, 2009, 10:56:42 AM »

This movie was amazing.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #72 on:** August 24, 2009, 11:06:15 AM »

Quote from: am nintenho on August 24, 2009, 06:44:44 AM

It wasn't a great movie but I wouldn't have minded paying a few bucks less for it at a matinee price.

The whole movie felt like a comic book movie though trying to mesh some hyper violent fantasies with actual racial persecution and that of course can't work that well. The movie failed though at anything involving german propoganda and racial cleansing, those sections felt so half-assed/unrealistic that I couldn't care about any of the characters that died, which was most of the main characters.

I liked the landa guy, but I think the movie would have been better if it only focused on the bastards doing their deeds. It really, really, really needed to flesh out the characters in the movie more which it just couldn't do with the skipping through chapter arcs and everything (the fucking british guy was in two consecutive scenes). It is possible that maybe Tarantino is trying to criticize the stereotypes of the good and bad guys of WW2 sort of movies but the fact that the german culture of the time is also a major target of criticism of this movie makes me doubt that.

I don't really know what the point of this movie was but the basic concept feels flawed.

You are all over the place.

tehjaybo · « **Reply #73 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:11:57 PM »

So, I'm seeing a lot of descriptions as "Jew Violence Porn". Does this mean there is massive amounts of nudity, or massive amounts of Jew violence? This determines whether or not I will be seeing this movie.

Veidt · « **Reply #74 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:13:22 PM »

No nudity.

Only jew violence and nazi conversations.
I loved the lines about black people

bork · « **Reply #75 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:13:42 PM »

Quote from: tehjaybo on August 24, 2009, 03:11:57 PM

So, I'm seeing a lot of descriptions as "Jew Violence Porn". Does this mean there is massive amounts of nudity, or massive amounts of Jew violence? This determines whether or not I will be seeing this movie.

Some parts with the Basterds and I guess what happens with the girl at the end can definitely be summed up that way, but this is a very dialogue-heavy film. There's no nudity, but there is some gore here and there.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #76 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:13:56 PM »

There's not really "massive" amounts of Jews committing violence unto Nazis, but that's what I was talking about.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #77 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:14:14 PM »

Really neither. There is a decent amount of Jews retaliating against the Reich with violence, but most of the film is dialogue. The two best scenes are people at tables talking for like fifteen to twenty minutes each.

tehjaybo · « **Reply #78 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:14:57 PM »

[sigh]

Looks like I may not be seeing this after all. Because, you know, titties make the movie for me.

Lame!

bork · « **Reply #79 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:15:36 PM »

Quote from: tehjaybo on August 24, 2009, 03:14:57 PM

[sigh]

Looks like I may not be seeing this after all. Because, you know, titties make the movie for me. Lame!

That's really fucking stupid.

tehjaybo · « **Reply #80 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:16:28 PM »

bork · « **Reply #81 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:17:07 PM »

tehjaybo · « **Reply #82 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:17:46 PM »

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #83 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:19:34 PM »

First I wanted to see this, then I was burned out on the trailer and didn't care anymore, now I really wanna see it again. Will do

Veidt · « **Reply #84 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:20:41 PM »

I told you guys to see it. I'm awesome.

tehjaybo · « **Reply #85 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:21:16 PM »

Quote from: Veidt on August 24, 2009, 03:20:41 PM

I told you guys to see it. I'm awesome.

Veidt with the Real Talk.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #86 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:26:22 PM »

Tarantino has never really been about showing much nudity in his flicks, though. Other than Bridget Fonda's ass in Jackie Brown, if I remember correctly.

Which is really kind of a shame if you stop and think about all of the hot chicks he's had in his flicks over the years.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #87 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:33:26 PM »

Julie Dreyfus

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #88 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:35:13 PM »

That part with Goebbels banging her made me laugh for about three minutes.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #89 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:40:48 PM »

Seriously

. Its as if Tarantino considered what one would think if you actually were there and saw Goebbels and her together you would think "I bet he's banging her" and Bam! quick cut to Goebbels hitting that.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #90 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:48:07 PM »

It wasn't so much the visuals, but the noise Goebbels was making.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #91 on:** August 24, 2009, 04:13:25 PM »

Quote from: Veidt on August 24, 2009, 03:20:41 PM

I told you guys to see it. I'm awesome.

But I told them WHY they should see it.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #92 on:** August 24, 2009, 04:38:52 PM »

Quote from: Willco on August 24, 2009, 11:06:15 AM

You are all over the place.

Not really. It looks like the movie took some generic political messages from WW2 and fucked them up with some over-Tarantinoed, stereotypical characters. In all the characters of this movie, you only get two different views on the war and on Germans, so it fucks up the human weakness angle completely. That's why I think it was like a comic book movie, it has characters you wouldn't see in real life. I went into this movie expecting to see a bunch of guerilla jews doing scary shit for 3 hours and honestly, it just made me roll my eyes for 2.5 hours.

It was definitely a fun movie but the concept itself just wasn't that great.

bork · « **Reply #93 on:** August 24, 2009, 04:41:54 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on August 24, 2009, 04:38:52 PM

Quote from: Willco on August 24, 2009, 11:06:15 AM
You are all over the place.
Not really. It looks like the movie took some generic political messages from WW2 and fucked them up with some over-Tarantinoed, stereotypical characters. In all the characters of this movie, you only get two different views on the war and on Germans, so it fucks up the human weakness angle completely. That's why I think it was like a comic book movie, it has characters you wouldn't see in real life. I went into this movie expecting to see a bunch of guerilla jews doing scary shit for 3 hours and honestly, it just made me roll my eyes for 2.5 hours.

It was definitely a fun movie but the concept itself just wasn't that great.

You expected otherwise after those previews?

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Tarantino has repeatedly stressed that despite its being a war film, Inglourious Basterds is his "spaghetti western but with World War II iconography". In addition to spaghetti westerns, the film also pays homage to the World War II "macaroni combat" sub-genre (itself heavily influenced by spaghetti-westerns), as well as French New Wave cinema.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #94 on:** August 24, 2009, 05:18:59 PM »

Tarantino thinks everything is "his spaghetti western", though.

Veidt · « **Reply #95 on:** August 24, 2009, 05:35:45 PM »

Julie Dreyfus. I used to make out with her ever since 2003 when I saw her in Kill Bill.

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Tieno · « **Reply #96 on:** August 24, 2009, 05:43:22 PM »

I just saw it. I liked it, some really good scenes although some of them went on for too long. The guy does know how to make a tense scene, right from the start he hits the mark and there are a bunch of very tense scenes.

I did get disturbed by all the people laughing at the excessive shock violence. It creeps me out.

Bebpo · « **Reply #97 on:** August 24, 2009, 05:47:12 PM »

Quote from: Tieno on August 24, 2009, 05:43:22 PM

I did get disturbed by all the people laughing at the excessive shock violence. It creeps me out.

Welcome to the desensitization of the last 20 years of popular culture?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #98 on:** August 24, 2009, 06:01:05 PM »

When violence is so over-the-top that it becomes totally unrealistic, how it is not funny? It's not desensitized anything, it's just unbelievable.

The scene where Pitt carves a swastika in the guy's head at the very end is fucking gruesome, and nobody laughed at that.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #99 on:** August 24, 2009, 06:08:08 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on August 24, 2009, 05:47:12 PM

Quote from: Tieno on August 24, 2009, 05:43:22 PM
I did get disturbed by all the people laughing at the excessive shock violence. It creeps me out.

Welcome to the desensitization of the last 20 years of popular culture?

Only 20 years? Nothing from the 70's or 80's?

Quote from: Willco on August 24, 2009, 06:01:05 PM

The scene where Pitt carves a swastika in the guy's head at the very end is fucking gruesome, and nobody laughed at that.

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When they shot Hitler, then shot into the crowd, then started shooting Hitler again even though it was obvious he was dead...now that was funny!

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Bebpo · « **Reply #100 on:** August 24, 2009, 06:17:53 PM »

Quote from: Willco on August 24, 2009, 06:01:05 PM

The scene where Pitt carves a swastika in the guy's head at the very end is fucking gruesome, and nobody laughed at that.

uh, our whole theater was laughing there because it was funny that he was getting owned in such a symbolic way.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #101 on:** August 24, 2009, 06:26:05 PM »

Yeah, Joe, that's because that was funny.

Bebpo, I honestly didn't hear anyone laughing at that. People chuckled when Pitt said, "... That's what I thought." And when he took out his knife.

... but the actual act was ugly and not very funny.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #102 on:** August 24, 2009, 06:42:44 PM »

I laughed at some of the violent scenes but definitely not that one. It actually made me squirm (just like the scalping scenes).

Veidt · « **Reply #103 on:** August 24, 2009, 06:51:02 PM »

Same here.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #104 on:** August 24, 2009, 07:24:00 PM »

Same

Hitler getting TORE UP, twice, was hilarious though.

Bebpo · « **Reply #105 on:** August 24, 2009, 07:33:28 PM »

Ok fine, I'm just horribly desensitized to fictional violence. I can watch a whole movie of eating live babies and not feel squirmish.

Yet any "real" documentary footage of corpses disturbs the hell out of me. I couldn't watch the end of Waltz with Bashir.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #106 on:** August 24, 2009, 07:40:37 PM »

I still love you.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #107 on:** August 24, 2009, 08:34:11 PM »

The pretext leading up to
"Bawn jor no"
made it so hilarious.

Otherwise an alright movie. Is the actor you guys are admiring the one who played Lans? It was almost too perfect how he was like a third person omniscient force of nature.

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I can't imagine how he could remember the girl only seeing her while she ran, but he ordered her a milk, not even letting her decide. Maybe its supposed to be ambiguous. He may also have done that and let her live in the first place because he enjoys teasing his victims

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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #108 on:** August 24, 2009, 08:57:42 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on August 24, 2009, 08:34:11 PM

The pretext leading up to
"Bawn jor no"
made it so hilarious.

Otherwise an alright movie. Is the actor you guys are admiring the one who played Lans? It was almost too perfect how he was like a third person omniscient force of nature.

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I can't imagine how he could remember the girl only seeing her while she ran, but he ordered her a milk, not even letting her decide. Maybe its supposed to be ambiguous. He may also have done that and let her live in the first place because he enjoys teasing his victims
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I heard people talking about that on GAF. My personal opinion:

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Is that that's just the kind of person he is. Naturally suspicious and inquisitive. Maybe he had some inkling of who she was, but I don't think he knew for sure. So, he played around with her for a while to see if she let anything slip.

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Solo · « **Reply #109 on:** August 24, 2009, 09:33:30 PM »

Holy shit, that was pure fucking insanity. Equal parts hilarious and thrilling, and supremely acted.

Veidt · « **Reply #110 on:** August 24, 2009, 09:34:54 PM »

awesome.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #111 on:** August 24, 2009, 09:35:20 PM »

Does that make TWO WHOLE TARANTINO FLICKS IN A ROW that have the Solo seal of approval?

Solo · « **Reply #112 on:** August 24, 2009, 09:53:13 PM »

Yes, it does. Still hate Kill Bill though!

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #113 on:** August 24, 2009, 09:56:46 PM »

'macaroni combat'

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #114 on:** August 24, 2009, 10:17:51 PM »

It's funny to read the opinions of people who are upset that it was not Kill Bill with Nazis.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #115 on:** August 24, 2009, 11:17:46 PM »

Yeah, there were a bunch of douche nuggets on GAF complaining about the lack of action. Shit, my parents went to watch this and even they loved it, sans OMG ACTION.

Tauntaun · « **Reply #116 on:** August 24, 2009, 11:22:25 PM »

I was so turned on to hear that there's subtitles in this movie. It stroked the elitist in me.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #117 on:** August 24, 2009, 11:38:00 PM »

I was so turned on to hear you were being stroked.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #118 on:** August 24, 2009, 11:45:50 PM »

Reign it in dudes.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #119 on:** August 24, 2009, 11:47:10 PM »

I'll reign it in.

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