Author Topic: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets (Read 18906 times)

Robo · « **Reply #120 on:** September 10, 2009, 02:09:06 AM »

Am I crazy or do the cymbals at the beginning of A Hard Day's Night (the song) sound kind of shitty on the 2009 remaster? They sound more clear on the 1987 remaster, but everything else on the track is muddy.

GilloD · « **Reply #121 on:** September 10, 2009, 02:17:04 AM »

I've been preferring the mono is most instances. I like that brusque, muscular sound. But I can see where the stereo really comes alive on the later Psych-y records. I'll probably go Mono just for iPod-adge.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #122 on:** September 10, 2009, 02:24:02 AM »

Pitchfork reviews the rest:

The Beatles 10.0
Yellow Submarine 6.2
Abbey Road 10.0
Let it Be 9.1
Past Masters 9.2

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #123 on:** September 10, 2009, 02:25:40 AM »

Quote from: RoboJ on September 10, 2009, 02:09:06 AM

Am I crazy or do the cymbals at the beginning of A Hard Day's Night (the song) sound kind of shitty on the 2009 remaster?

I'd assume the mono blends the piano and and guitar into one powerful sound.

Robo · « **Reply #124 on:** September 10, 2009, 02:32:58 AM »

Not the opening chord -- the cymbals kick in immediately after the vocals start and they sound to me to be really scratchy. I should've clarified that I'm referring to the stereo version.

Akala · « **Reply #125 on:** September 10, 2009, 02:33:36 AM »

Quote

The phrase, "It's like their White Album"-- applied to records like Prince's Sign o' the Times, Hüsker Dü's Zen Arcade, the Clash's Sandinista!, and Pavement's Wowee Zowee

pitchfork sucks SO MUCH. reading that ten point oh review fucking angered me for some reason. may be it was the quoted...that struck me for some reason.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #126 on:** September 10, 2009, 02:50:38 AM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on September 10, 2009, 02:41:05 AM

also as for people not knowing shit about sound quality, self described "vinyl only" people come into our bar all the time and praise our vinyl collection all the time and wax on and on about the sound quality when in fact the player is turned off and and i'm playing mix tapes off my phone.

lol

The exact same phenomenon can be observed during wine tastings, as I'm sure you've noticed.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #127 on:** September 10, 2009, 02:51:37 AM »

...that is, if you err play mix tapes off your phone during wine tastings...

...ok, not the EXACT same phenomenon, an analogous phenomenon

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #128 on:** September 10, 2009, 03:06:35 AM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on September 10, 2009, 02:38:19 AM

now that pitchfork likes the beatles maybe everyone can be over them

Pitchfork is probably being ironic. You know how much you hipsters love irony.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #129 on:** September 10, 2009, 03:43:59 AM »

someone put these up on rapidshare or megaupload. Ono has enough money

GilloD · « **Reply #130 on:** September 10, 2009, 04:00:49 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on September 10, 2009, 03:43:59 AM

someone put these up on rapidshare or megaupload. Ono has enough money

Bolachas.org

Scroll down. Teehee.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #131 on:** September 10, 2009, 04:04:44 AM »

What should I get first? I'm guessing their early albums are poppy Jonas Brothers trash

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #132 on:** September 10, 2009, 04:13:46 AM »

I got 'Love Me Do' out of my minds now- no thanks to Arvie.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #133 on:** September 10, 2009, 05:07:33 AM »

'Tomorrow Never Knows' is a revelation. I never realized how much this sounds like drum n' bass! I've never thought of this as 'danceable' (when I was 12 I just thought it was unlistenable) but it wouldn't sound too out of place at some clubs. Ahead of his time much?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #134 on:** September 10, 2009, 03:07:49 PM »

Please Please Me is pretty good, but then again many of the songs sound like stuff Sam Cook did much better. And the bass line on Baby It's You sounds almost exactly like Stand By Me.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #135 on:** September 10, 2009, 03:09:50 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on September 10, 2009, 04:04:44 AM

What should I get first? I'm guessing their early albums are poppy Jonas Brothers trash

Anything before Rubber Soul

Actually, I guess Help! is okay. Couldn't care less about the rest though

Robo · « **Reply #136 on:** September 10, 2009, 03:58:48 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on September 10, 2009, 03:07:49 PM

Please Please Me is pretty good, but then again many of the songs sound like stuff Sam Cook did much better. And the bass line on Baby It's You sounds almost exactly like Stand By Me.

To be fair, has anyone ever done anything better than Sam Cooke did?

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #137 on:** September 10, 2009, 04:31:28 PM »

Someone was playing the Rolling Stones' psychedelic record, Satanic Majesties or whatever, in a coffeeshop last week. I hadn't heard it before, I thought it was pretty good, better than I would've expected.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #138 on:** September 10, 2009, 05:19:15 PM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on September 10, 2009, 04:31:28 PM

Someone was playing the Rolling Stones' psychedelic record, Satanic Majesties or whatever, in a coffeeshop last week. I hadn't heard it before, I thought it was pretty good, better than I would've expected.

It isn't bad, and "She's a Rainbow" is one of my favorite Stones' songs. But, I guess, it's overshadowed by other psychedelic albums and the Stones' previous releases and their next four classic albums.

jiji · « **Reply #139 on:** September 11, 2009, 12:14:31 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on September 10, 2009, 05:07:33 AM

'Tomorrow Never Knows' is a revelation. I never realized how much this sounds like drum n' bass! I've never thought of this as 'danceable' (when I was 12 I just thought it was unlistenable) but it wouldn't sound too out of place at some clubs. Ahead of his time much?

The Chemical Brothers' Setting Sun is practically a remake of it.

[youtube=560,345]gYCOCmfJiko[/youtube]

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #140 on:** September 11, 2009, 01:38:04 PM »

Real talk $:-\$

Rubber Soul is pretty good smh. And overall I like Please Please Me. So...Revolver next

I remember not liking Rubber Soul earlier this year though, dunno why. Maybe I wasn't paying attention or the sound quality sucked, dunno.

Robo · « **Reply #141 on:** September 11, 2009, 01:50:01 PM »

PD just likes the Beatles because Pitchfork told him he should.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #142 on:** September 11, 2009, 01:51:50 PM »

It's certainly not a 10/10. That's reserved for perfect albums, you know like Dark Side of the Moon or Zep IV

8.4/10

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #143 on:** September 11, 2009, 02:11:24 PM »

Wish You Were Here > Dark Side of the Moon

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #144 on:** September 11, 2009, 03:27:15 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on September 11, 2009, 02:11:24 PM

Wish You Were Here > Dark Side of the Moon

This a million times

DSotM is overrated. Good album but PF actually is better than that (on WYWH.)

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #145 on:** September 11, 2009, 03:53:11 PM »

Wish You Were Here > Dark Side of the Moon > The Wall > Animals > Meddle

Brehvolution · « **Reply #146 on:** September 11, 2009, 04:08:22 PM »

I love Animals and rate it much higher.
Have you ever listened to it on weed?

You should.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #147 on:** September 11, 2009, 04:21:03 PM »

Zero Hero

Animals is probably my favorite.

Robo · « **Reply #148 on:** September 11, 2009, 04:28:31 PM »

It's kinda crazy how Animals consists of three consecutive 10+ minute tracks and NEVER gets boring. That might be the only time a rock group has accomplished that.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #149 on:** September 11, 2009, 04:37:31 PM »

PD I think you'll probably like Revolver a bit more. Rubber Soul is one of my favorites though.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #150 on:** September 11, 2009, 04:48:25 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on September 11, 2009, 02:11:24 PM

Wish You Were Here > Dark Side of the Moon

Agreed 100%. But are 10/10

Himu · « **Reply #151 on:** September 11, 2009, 04:50:33 PM »

Quote from: GilloD on September 10, 2009, 04:00:49 AM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on September 10, 2009, 03:43:59 AM
someone put these up on rapidshare or megaupload. Ono has enough money

Bolachas.org

Scroll down. Teehee.

Thanks. I'm not buying this either.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #152 on:** September 11, 2009, 05:02:33 PM »

Maybe I should give Animals another chance; it did receive a 10/10 from Pitchfork.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6307-animals/

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #153 on:** September 11, 2009, 05:04:01 PM »

I couldn't get into Animals, it didn't make an impression on me initially. I'll have to give it another shake

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #154 on:** September 11, 2009, 05:09:15 PM »

Quote from: Pink Floyd - Dogs

You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need
You gotta sleep on your toes, and when youre on the street
You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed
And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight
You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking.

And after a while, you can work on points for style
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake
A certain look in the eye, and an easy smile
You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to
So that when they turn their backs on you
Youll get the chance to put the knife in.

You gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder
You know its going to get harder, and harder, and harder as you get older
And in the end youll pack, fly down south
Hide your head in the sand
Just another sad old man
All alone and dying of cancer.

And when you lose control, youll reap the harvest that youve sown
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone
And its too late to loose the weight you used to need to throw around
So have a good drown, as you go down alone
Dragged down by the stone.

I gotta admit that Im a little bit confused
Sometimes it seems to me as if Im just being used
Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake of this creeping malaise
If I dont stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this maze?

Deaf, dumb, and blind, you just keep on pretending
That everyones expendable and no-one had a real friend
And it seems to you the thing to do would be to isolate the winner
And you believe at heart, everyones a killer.

Who was born in a house full of pain
Who was trained not to spit in the fan
Who was told what to do by the man
Who was broken by trained personnel
Who was fitted with collar and chain
Who was given a seat in the stand
Who was breaking away from the pack
Who was only a stranger at home
Who was ground down in the end
Who was found dead on the phone
Who was dragged down by the stone.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #155 on:** September 11, 2009, 05:15:22 PM »

The only flaw in DSOTM is that we've all probably heard it way too much. I can't think of another album with a better flow of songs.
I don't like the Wall that much. There are plenty of great tracks on it, but it's kind of obnoxious.

Atom Heart Mother is the shit.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #156 on:** September 11, 2009, 05:25:21 PM »

Quote from: RoboJ on September 11, 2009, 04:28:31 PM

It's kinda crazy how Animals consists of three consecutive 10+ minute tracks and NEVER gets boring. That might be the only time a rock group has accomplished that.

Robo · « **Reply #157 on:** September 11, 2009, 05:31:21 PM »

And Justice For All doesn't have any 10+ minute tracks!

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #158 on:** September 11, 2009, 05:33:21 PM »

And it also gets boring. Or at the very least repetitive.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #159 on:** September 11, 2009, 05:37:09 PM »

Quote from: Akala on September 10, 2009, 02:33:36 AM

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The phrase, "It's like their White Album"-- applied to records like Prince's Sign o' the Times, Hüsker Dü's Zen Arcade, the Clash's Sandinista!, and Pavement's Wowee Zowee

pitchfork sucks SO MUCH. reading that ten point oh review fucking angered me for some reason. may be it was the quoted...that struck me for some reason.

I don't hate Pitchfork, but I'll be damned if Wowee Zowee is Pavement's white album (they don't have one.) I like it, but it has the flow of a collection of B-sides, not the flow of a collection of singles...Malkmus himself said something along the lines of how he was using too many drugs at the time and tricked himself into thinking they had a hit breakout album on their hands. It was more like a combination of Crooked Rain and Westing.

Himu · « **Reply #160 on:** September 11, 2009, 07:16:13 PM »

gillod I LOVE you for posting that site

EvilBoris · « **Reply #161 on:** September 11, 2009, 10:39:42 PM »

sorry rubber soul is a bit creaky. mccartney prevents a lull in the middle between 'the word' , 'think for yourself' and 'what goes on'. the first and last thirds are great though. 'wait' is a small favourite.

btw I'm watching parts of the beloved Magical Mystery Tour, not terribly eventful but there is a genuinely surreal scene here with Lennon at his grinning best shovelling mud for a crying fat lady at a restaurant. and ringo can really lol 'act naturally'. considering seeing more... who's managed through it all?

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #162 on:** September 11, 2009, 10:46:01 PM »

Quote from: EvilBoris on September 11, 2009, 10:39:42 PM

btw I'm watching parts of the beloved Magical Mystery Tour, not terribly eventful but there is a genuinely surreal scene here with Lennon at his grinning best shovelling mud for a crying fat lady at a restaurant. and ringo can really lol 'act naturally'. considering seeing more... who's managed through it all?

Beloved by whom? It's easily their worst movie. And, yes, I watched it all.

EvilBoris · « **Reply #163 on:** September 11, 2009, 10:48:59 PM »

...
yeah that was a joke pal

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #164 on:** September 11, 2009, 10:56:56 PM »

I'm currently working on a paper, "Sarcasm on the Internet: Why it Often Doesn't Work." I should send you an early copy.

Himu · « **Reply #165 on:** September 11, 2009, 10:59:42 PM »

I'm liking White Album a lot more than the other albums so far

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #166 on:** September 11, 2009, 10:59:59 PM »

Malek, if you own a Zune pass, check out the Marketplace for a playlist of Beatles covers. Several of them are actually pretty good.

The variety of musicians that did covers of Beatles' songs speaks is impressive and speaks volumes about their influence.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #167 on:** September 11, 2009, 11:00:47 PM »

Quote from: RoboJ on September 11, 2009, 05:31:21 PM

And Justice For All doesn't have any 10+ minute tracks!

That's inconceivable honestly. Anyway, I wasn't saying that album was on the same level as Animals, no reason for everyone to get their panties twisted.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #168 on:** September 11, 2009, 11:43:51 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on September 11, 2009, 10:59:42 PM

I'm liking White Album a lot more than the other albums so far

It's probably my second favorite Beatles album. It has some bad material, though.

Side three is my favorite:
Side three
1.    "Birthday"
2.    "Yer Blues"
3.    "Mother Nature's Son"
4.    "Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey"
5.    "Sexy Sadie"
6.    "Helter Skelter"
7.    "Long, Long, Long"

Side one has better songs, but it also has both "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" and "Wild Honey Pie." FTL

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #169 on:** September 11, 2009, 11:45:01 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on September 11, 2009, 10:59:59 PM

Malek, if you own a Zune pass, check out the Marketplace for a playlist of Beatles covers. Several of them are actually pretty good.

The variety of musicians that did covers of Beatles' songs speaks is impressive and speaks volumes about their influence.

I don't have zune pass. I am familiar with a lot of Beatles' covers. Inevitably, they're just not very good--with several major exceptions.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #170 on:** September 11, 2009, 11:46:20 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on September 11, 2009, 11:44:42 PM

Do it. Revolver and Abbey Road are the best Beatles albums, IMO.

And Malek, isn't The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill on that side as well? That's the worst Beatles track of all, I think.

Yes it is, but I kind of like it in a "Yellow Submarine" kind of way.

cool breeze · « **Reply #171 on:** September 12, 2009, 12:16:22 AM »

Quote from: Malek on September 11, 2009, 11:43:51 PM

Quote from: Himuro on September 11, 2009, 10:59:42 PM
I'm liking White Album a lot more than the other albums so far

It's probably my second favorite Beatles album. It has some bad material, though.

Side three is my favorite:
Side three
1.    "Birthday"
2.    "Yer Blues"
3.    "Mother Nature's Son"
4.    "Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey"
5.    "Sexy Sadie"
6.    "Helter Skelter"
7.    "Long, Long, Long"

Side one has better songs, but it also has both "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" and "Wild Honey Pie." FTL

Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da is awesome. Hater.

and no joke, I was listening to it right as I read that post. but Wild Honey Pie is bad.

Himu · « **Reply #172 on:** September 12, 2009, 12:58:05 AM »

What are your favorite Beatles albums, Malek?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #173 on:** September 12, 2009, 01:19:33 AM »

They are all equally overrated.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #174 on:** September 12, 2009, 01:20:20 AM »

Quote from: Himuro on September 12, 2009, 12:58:05 AM

What are your favorite Beatles albums, Malek?

Abbey Road > the White Album > Rubber Soul > Revolver > Sgt. Pepper's > Magical Mystery Tour > Let it Be > Help > Hard Day's Night > Please Please Me > With the Beatles > Beatles for Sale > Yellow Submarine (barely counts)

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #175 on:** September 12, 2009, 01:26:11 AM »

I should add, Himuro, that Past Masters 2 is flawless (well, except for "You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)"). It's amazing that the Beatles didn't release their best singles on their regular albums.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #176 on:** September 12, 2009, 01:27:01 AM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on September 12, 2009, 01:23:47 AM

Quote from: Willco on September 12, 2009, 01:19:33 AM
They are all equally overrated.

Your screenplays are overrated.

I think my screenplays would have to be rated to qualify as overrated.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #177 on:** September 12, 2009, 01:33:17 AM »

So I've never actually listened to a full Beatles album. Downloading Abbey Road now.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #178 on:** September 12, 2009, 01:37:35 AM »

Prepare to be underwhelmed.

Once you're done, you can listen to a real band - like Muse.

Himu · « **Reply #179 on:** September 12, 2009, 01:38:23 AM »

Was gonna dl the new Muse but the dl link was down

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Author Topic: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets (Read 18906 times)