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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #60 on: September 11, 2009, 06:00:04 PM »
The appeal is that you play as a band of SKY PIRATES.
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #61 on: September 11, 2009, 06:01:15 PM »
Quote from: Himuro on September 11, 2009, 06:00:04 PM
The appeal is that you play as a band of SKY PIRATES.

In NAPPLE TALE?   :lol
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #62 on: September 11, 2009, 06:02:54 PM »
NEVERMIND

Was skim reading, thought you quoted something about Skies :lol

Guess I should read a whole thread instead of reading between the lines
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« Reply #63 on: September 11, 2009, 09:02:15 PM »
 :-*
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« Reply #64 on: September 11, 2009, 10:15:46 PM »
who cares, they've got such a decent list it's worthy
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« Reply #65 on: September 11, 2009, 10:20:43 PM »
It wasn't ign who made the list. It was the fans.

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Remember to let us know your favorite games in the article comments below. And if you're wondering why a certain Yu Suzuki RPG didn't make our list, the simple answer is this: IGN's five biggest Dreamcast fans voted on the games you see on this list, and not one of them voted for Shenmue to be included.

People who label Shenmue an rpg should kill themselves.
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« Reply #66 on: September 11, 2009, 10:32:16 PM »
I wonder if Record of Lodoss War holds up well at all. I probably put more time into that game than any other DC game that's not MvsC2.
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #67 on: September 12, 2009, 01:29:30 AM »
That list is garbage. Rating Powerstone 2 behind Powerstone is moronic.
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« Reply #68 on: September 12, 2009, 01:32:46 AM »
I don't think Marvel vs Capcom 2 is overrated, I bought my Dreamcast for that game.

I have fond memories of the Dreamcast, and I personally felt Code Veronica was the most enjoyable Resident Evil since the original. It was also the first console with a legitimate online platform.

I think I played Phantasy Star Online for probably a billion hours. It was relatively addicting at the time.
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« Reply #69 on: September 12, 2009, 01:41:42 AM »
Yeah, the more I think about, I really liked the Dreamcast. Probably more than GameCube, PS2 or Xbox.

I'm not a big JRPG guy, so Sony's console never really did it for me, outside of a couple of games (Grand Theft Auto, God of War), the Xbox was pretty much garbage outside of Halo and KOTOR and many of the best GameCube titles were ported to other systems.

I am not sure why I owned all of them at one point.

Dreamcast was pretty great. I kind of wish I still had one.

My favorite non-MvC2 game had to be Skies of Arcadia. I'm not a big JRPG guy whatsoever, but I loved that game to tears and is one of only three JRPGs I ever finished. I think it's pretty distinguished mentally-challenged that they never did a sequel.

Who doesn't want to pilot flying pirate ships?!
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #70 on: September 12, 2009, 11:35:04 AM »
Quote from: dcharlie on September 12, 2009, 03:59:01 AM
Shen mue was interesting as a "small town Japan" simulator and as an initial DC graphics showcase but as a game it's entirely ordinary for the most part and horrifically dull the rest of the time.

Any DC show real should show it but it appearing at the top of any charts (whilst the infinitely better Shen Mue 2 doesn't) is distinguished mentally-challenged.

Yeah, there was a lot of ambition behind Shemue, that's clear from playing it, and they succeeded at their goal which was to simulate the life of the protagonist. The goals sounds really interesting because it basically lets the player live an entirely different life from the own. The problem? Most people's lives are filled with lots and lots of pointless minutia and Ryo's is no different, even if he does occasionally get into huge brawls while on a quest to find the guy who killed his father.
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #71 on: September 12, 2009, 12:06:05 PM »
The Dreamcast was probably the last system I got excited for (search for my embarrassing posts on the Borecast thread at GAF regarding this) and after it got canned, I never really cared too much about other systems again.

Anyway, my sister is a huge DC fanatic still and owns three Dreamcasts: two of them are brand new that are backups in case it fails.  I'm surprised she found new Dreamcasts, unopened boxes and all, in 2006 and 2007.  We spent a better part of the afternoon a few months back playing through the classics.  A lot of them still hold up pretty well!  Games like Crazy Taxi and Jet Grind Radio are timeless classics.

Skies of Arcadia is probably the last great RPG I've played.  The last one that really had an "epic" feel to it.

I liked the PS2 better but I think the PS2 is the best system released of all time.
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #72 on: September 12, 2009, 12:41:04 PM »
Headhunter, Half-Life, MDK2, Propeller Arena, Jet Grind Radio, Rez. The Dreamcast has so many great games, though, and a whole lot of the hold up. Jet Grind Radio has touchy controls, but that's just it's mechanics. It has a huge learning curve, and once you get a handle on it, it becomes absolutely sublime.
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #73 on: September 12, 2009, 12:46:20 PM »
Shemue keep freezing up on me when I'm walking around town. It wouldn't be that bad if I could save anywhere, but I have to go all the way back home to save so I end up losing my entire progress.  :-\
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #74 on: September 12, 2009, 12:54:21 PM »
Quote from: Great Rumbler on September 12, 2009, 11:35:04 AM
Quote from: dcharlie on September 12, 2009, 03:59:01 AM
Shen mue was interesting as a "small town Japan" simulator and as an initial DC graphics showcase but as a game it's entirely ordinary for the most part and horrifically dull the rest of the time.

Any DC show real should show it but it appearing at the top of any charts (whilst the infinitely better Shen Mue 2 doesn't) is distinguished mentally-challenged.

Yeah, there was a lot of ambition behind Shemue, that's clear from playing it, and they succeeded at their goal which was to simulate the life of the protagonist. The goals sounds really interesting because it basically lets the player live an entirely different life from the own. The problem? Most people's lives are filled with lots and lots of pointless minutia and Ryo's is no different, even if he does occasionally get into huge brawls while on a quest to find the guy who killed his father.

Shenmue 2 is the better game. Shenmue 1 is a good adventure game with a lot of flaws. 2 had it all.

Quote from: twerd on September 12, 2009, 12:41:04 PM
Headhunter, Half-Life, MDK2, Propeller Arena, Jet Grind Radio, Rez. The Dreamcast has so many great games, though, and a whole lot of the hold up. Jet Grind Radio has touchy controls, but that's just it's mechanics. It has a huge learning curve, and once you get a handle on it, it becomes absolutely sublime.

I actually think the ps2 version of Half Life is the best version of og Half Life.

Did anyone play D2?
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #75 on: September 12, 2009, 01:05:36 PM »
Quote from: Himuro on September 12, 2009, 12:54:21 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on September 12, 2009, 11:35:04 AM
Quote from: dcharlie on September 12, 2009, 03:59:01 AM
Shen mue was interesting as a "small town Japan" simulator and as an initial DC graphics showcase but as a game it's entirely ordinary for the most part and horrifically dull the rest of the time.

Any DC show real should show it but it appearing at the top of any charts (whilst the infinitely better Shen Mue 2 doesn't) is distinguished mentally-challenged.

Yeah, there was a lot of ambition behind Shemue, that's clear from playing it, and they succeeded at their goal which was to simulate the life of the protagonist. The goals sounds really interesting because it basically lets the player live an entirely different life from the own. The problem? Most people's lives are filled with lots and lots of pointless minutia and Ryo's is no different, even if he does occasionally get into huge brawls while on a quest to find the guy who killed his father.

Shenmue 2 is the better game.

Except Disc 4.  :lol
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2009, 01:11:33 PM »
I can't hate on disc 4 because it's basically a preview of Shenmue 3, which we'll never get.

Anyways, enough 'bout 'Mue.

I really wanna bust out the cast now and play some Crazy Taxi or something, but all my DC games are back home. I have the cast always plugged up just in case, though.
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« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2009, 01:20:33 PM »
All the console ports of Half-Life suck, except for The Orange Box for the 360.
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2009, 01:24:45 PM »
Not Half Life 1 on ps2!
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #79 on: September 12, 2009, 01:25:20 PM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Grandia 2 sucks balls.

And Shenmue 2 had a 3 hour walk in the woods at then end.  Literally 3 hours.  Both Shenmue games pissed me off so much that I couldn't imagine trying to figure out which was the less evil of the two.
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« Reply #80 on: September 12, 2009, 01:41:51 PM »
I'm not a fan of Grandia II, either.

Himuro, Half-Life on PS2 blows.

Who didn't have a PC capable of playing it when it was released? :lol
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« Reply #81 on: September 12, 2009, 02:50:00 PM »
Grandia 2 and onward Grandia games have the best turn-based combat in J-RPGs.
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #82 on: September 13, 2009, 11:31:14 PM »
MDK 2 rocks
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« Reply #83 on: September 14, 2009, 05:07:34 AM »
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on September 13, 2009, 11:31:14 PM
MDK 2 rocks

:rock :rock

also, grandia 2 was good because of it's combat system and lack of random battles. random battles killed my love for skies of arcadia.
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #84 on: September 14, 2009, 05:36:09 AM »
Skies of Arcadia is still amazing, I played it for the first time in 2006 so there was no system warrior and/or nostalgia goggles going on. The game just has a very robust charm about it, fantastic lovable characters and a great setting. Ship battles are cool too. But yeah random battles up the wazoo.

Grandia 2 is decent enough but nothing really special to recommend it over many other jrpgs. Great music though
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« Reply #85 on: September 14, 2009, 09:18:20 AM »
MDK2 :-* Wasn't there a pc version?  Steam please.
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #86 on: September 14, 2009, 10:15:06 AM »
If you just used all your moon drops or whatever on Aika in the early part of the game, you'd end all random battles on your first turn.
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #87 on: September 14, 2009, 12:47:26 PM »
I usually spammed the hell out of Lambda Burst with Aika in SOA, helped me get through a lot of the overworld battles without a tiff... the only part where the random battles were painful were maneuvering in that whirlwind-like area to get to Horteka. SOA is probably one of my favorite games of all time...
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« Reply #89 on: September 14, 2009, 03:51:09 PM »
Quote from: Himuro on September 14, 2009, 09:18:20 AM
MDK2 :-* Wasn't there a pc version?  Steam please.
It's on GoG.com

Typing of the Dead is probably one of the top ten games of all time.
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« Reply #90 on: September 14, 2009, 05:18:04 PM »
GoG? Awesome.
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« Reply #91 on: September 15, 2009, 07:16:54 AM »
I die a little everytime a great Dreamcast game gets a current gen update, superior sequel, XBLA release, etc.  It gives me one less reason to actually go back and get the old wonderful white box out of the closet.  I loved Jet Grind Radio, but Jet Set Radio Future for me fixed much of the clunky controls.  I think all the Sonic Adventure games got superior remasters for gamecube, same with Code Veronica.  PSO was better on gamecube and xbox.  Crazy Taxi 3 on xbox is a superior experience.  Rez HD, Soul Calibur, MVC2 are all on xbla.

So what games still hold up and haven't been upgraded/improved on subsequent consoles?  What games games are still worth playing that you need an actual Dreamcast to play?
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #92 on: September 15, 2009, 07:35:32 AM »
Shenmue 1
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« Reply #93 on: September 15, 2009, 11:07:38 AM »
Quote from: Scenester on September 15, 2009, 07:35:32 AM
Shenmue 1

"Can I talk to you about that man?"

"Huh? That man?"
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« Reply #94 on: September 15, 2009, 05:06:32 PM »
Quote from: Lucretius on September 15, 2009, 07:16:54 AM
So what games still hold up and haven't been upgraded/improved on subsequent consoles?  What games games are still worth playing that you need an actual Dreamcast to play?

-Jet Set Radio
-Project Justice
-Plasma Sword
-Tech Romancer
-Powerstone
-Powerstone 2
-Spawn In The Demon's Hand
-Heavy Metal Geomatrix
-Zombie Revenge
-Daytona USA 2001
-The Last Blade 2 (the PS2 collection for this sucks)
-Outtrigger
-Giga Wing 1 and 2
-Mars Matrix
-Cannon Spike

Although out of those, The Last Blade 2, Giga Wing, Mars Matrix, Tech Romancer, and Plasma Sword can all be played on arcade emulators.
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #95 on: September 15, 2009, 05:15:12 PM »
Quote from: Lucretius on September 15, 2009, 07:16:54 AM
So what games still hold up and haven't been upgraded/improved on subsequent consoles?  What games games are still worth playing that you need an actual Dreamcast to play?

Illbleed
Blue Stinger (remember the hot hottub scene with Dog and Elliott? :drool)
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #96 on: September 16, 2009, 12:23:00 AM »
Quote from: Sho Nuff on September 10, 2009, 09:34:44 PM
San Francisco Rush 2049  :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper
The arcade version had an updated version of the Alcatraz track, so the arcade version wins by default.

The DC did get the best port of Hydro Thunder, though.  :-*
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« Reply #97 on: September 16, 2009, 04:05:46 AM »
Quote from: demi on September 15, 2009, 05:15:12 PM
Quote from: Lucretius on September 15, 2009, 07:16:54 AM
So what games still hold up and haven't been upgraded/improved on subsequent consoles?  What games games are still worth playing that you need an actual Dreamcast to play?

Illbleed
Blue Stinger (remember the hot hottub scene with Dog and Elliott? :drool)

Illbleed owns but I never got around to playing Blue Stinger. might be an excuse to hook the DC up  :-*
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« Reply #98 on: September 16, 2009, 04:29:28 AM »
Quote from: demi on September 15, 2009, 05:15:12 PM
Illbleed
Blue Stinger (remember the hot hottub scene with Dog and Elliott? :drool)

I never played Blue Stinger.  Does the hottub scene have sexy bear goodness?
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« Reply #99 on: September 16, 2009, 04:33:19 AM »
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« Reply #100 on: September 16, 2009, 04:41:12 AM »
You can see the scene here



Around 2:20
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« Reply #101 on: September 16, 2009, 04:53:16 AM »
Quote from: demi on September 16, 2009, 04:41:12 AM
You can see the scene here

Classy
The game looks pretty dreadful though.
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« Reply #102 on: September 16, 2009, 04:54:52 AM »
Well it's a Dreamcast game. The creator of that & Illbleed died so PAY YOUR RESPECTS
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« Reply #103 on: September 16, 2009, 05:09:08 AM »
Quote from: demi on September 16, 2009, 04:54:52 AM
Well it's a Dreamcast game. The creator of that & Illbleed died so PAY YOUR RESPECTS

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« Reply #104 on: September 16, 2009, 05:11:03 AM »
PAY THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Real Talk: Which Dreamcast classics still hold up ten years later?
« Reply #105 on: September 16, 2009, 05:15:52 AM »
I never played Illbleed either :P
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« Reply #106 on: September 16, 2009, 06:46:13 AM »
Quote from: Lucretius on September 16, 2009, 05:09:08 AM
Quote from: demi on September 16, 2009, 04:54:52 AM
Well it's a Dreamcast game. The creator of that & Illbleed died so PAY YOUR RESPECTS

(Image removed from quote.)

dont spam the Dreamcast thread with this current events shit

ZOMG Blue Stinger is so getting played this weekend
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« Reply #107 on: September 16, 2009, 03:18:23 PM »
Quote from: Scenester on September 16, 2009, 06:46:13 AM
dont spam the Dreamcast thread with this current events shit

he says after he quotes the image in full...  anyway... context, sweetie.  context.

Which would be more worth playing?  Illbleed or Blue Stinger?
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« Reply #108 on: September 16, 2009, 03:33:50 PM »
illbleed
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« Reply #109 on: September 16, 2009, 04:49:05 PM »
Quote from: Lucretius on September 16, 2009, 03:18:23 PM
Quote from: Scenester on September 16, 2009, 06:46:13 AM
dont spam the Dreamcast thread with this current events shit

he says after he quotes the image in full...  anyway... context, sweetie.  context.

Which would be more worth playing?  Illbleed or Blue Stinger?

 :P bro I was kidding
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« Reply #110 on: September 16, 2009, 05:08:26 PM »
Quote from: Scenester on September 16, 2009, 04:49:05 PM
:P bro I was kidding

Bro, I know you were kidding, and imma let you finish, but SantaC had some of the best trollin' evah!
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