Author Topic: Halo 3: OSTD (Read 25428 times)

Agent Whiskers · « **on:** September 18, 2009, 03:38:36 PM »

So Halo 3: ODST is out in Saudi and I managed to get my grubby paws on a copy. Will follow up with impressions soon. In the meantime, let us criticize the Halo franchise because it's the cool thing to do.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #1 on:** September 18, 2009, 04:28:52 PM »

oh, std

ManaByte · « **Reply #2 on:** September 18, 2009, 04:30:35 PM »

Thread title is WIN

demi · « **Reply #3 on:** September 18, 2009, 04:31:43 PM »

Grow up, ManaByte

border · « **Reply #4 on:** September 18, 2009, 04:44:30 PM »

How is this game different from Halo 3?

I haven't kept up with it at all, but I watched some of the Justin.TV stream of the leaked copies and it looked pretty much like a re-hash.

Bocsius · « **Reply #5 on:** September 18, 2009, 05:00:35 PM »

Short version (because I haven't been following it either)

-There's no Master Chief. You play as an ODST through various gameplay missions that are non-linear in how you take them (I believe this is correct)
-There's no shield, but there is some shield-like system in place so it's not a complete change
-There are health packs
-There is fall damage
-Gameplay centers in and around New Mombasa in the aftermath of the Covenant ship's slipstream exit in Halo 2
-Multiplayer includes all the Halo 3 maps (and DLC) plus three new maps.
-There is a new mode called "Firefight" that is similar to Gears of War 2's Horde mode. 4 player online co-op.

Tieno · « **Reply #6 on:** September 18, 2009, 05:13:36 PM »

Yeah, there's one big hubworld that you explore and then go into flashbacks as you find clues to the story.

So structurally it's different (hub, flashbacks), tone is different (smaller scope, less colorful), perspective/narrative is different (you play different ODST in one city), gameplay is somewhat different (no duel wielding, health packs, weaker character, squads, no BR and AR, visor mode, etc), Firefight (horde with vehicles and skulls)
Graphics are pretty much the same and that's what most distinguished mentally-challenged fellows look at so they think it's a rehash.

Bocsius · « **Reply #7 on:** September 18, 2009, 05:18:51 PM »

No BR?

...cancelling pre-order...

Bebpo · « **Reply #8 on:** September 18, 2009, 05:26:18 PM »

Why did they think you'd want to play as a normal everyday grunt without half the abilities MC has. Normally gameplay is added, not removed with expansions ^^;

demi · « **Reply #9 on:** September 18, 2009, 05:27:05 PM »

Getting this

bork · « **Reply #10 on:** September 18, 2009, 05:49:47 PM »

Also, the game is on two discs-- ODST is by itself (and can presumably be installed), Halo 3 MP is the other. I think those three new maps are supposed to be only part of the ODST Halo 3 MP, at least for a period of time, but regardless, it's the same multiplayer and will be compatible with the regular Halo 3.

drew · « **Reply #11 on:** September 18, 2009, 05:52:46 PM »

i presume you can install the mythic disc as well

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #12 on:** September 18, 2009, 05:56:50 PM »

BR is removed from the campaign and firefight modes. Bungie felt the weapon was overpowered and jumped at the chance to remove it.

Quote from: Bebpo on September 18, 2009, 05:26:18 PM

Why did they think you'd want to play as a normal everyday grunt without half the abilities MC has. Normally gameplay is added, not removed with expansions ^^;

I disagree. I think these changes would force players to use a more tactical, team based approach, where it would add diverse gameplay choices rather than keep to the 'run and gun' formula of traditional Halo. Probably a reason why the BR was removed.

It would be interesting to play a more human story. Frankly, I'm tired of this whole saga of epic, superhuman space struggle. Or a love story based on the relationship between a faceless super-soldier and a computer AI.

bork · « **Reply #13 on:** September 18, 2009, 05:58:42 PM »

Quote from: drew on September 18, 2009, 05:52:46 PM

i presume you can install the mythic disc as well

I hope so, but if it's the same as Halo 3, and since you're still playing with Halo 3 players...doubtful.

Bocsius · « **Reply #14 on:** September 18, 2009, 06:02:20 PM »

Quote from: InfectedGib on September 18, 2009, 05:56:50 PM

BR is removed from the campaign and firefight modes. Bungie felt the weapon was overpowered and jumped at the chance to remove it.

Remove overpowered crap like the energy sword and brute hammer and fluff like the SMG. The BR was the only decent weapon the game.

Bebpo · « **Reply #15 on:** September 18, 2009, 06:07:41 PM »

Quote from: InfectedGib on September 18, 2009, 05:56:50 PM

BR is removed from the campaign and firefight modes. Bungie felt the weapon was overpowered and jumped at the chance to remove it.

Quote from: Bebpo on September 18, 2009, 05:26:18 PM
Why did they think you'd want to play as a normal everyday grunt without half the abilities MC has. Normally gameplay is added, not removed with expansions ^^;

I disagree. I think these changes would force players to use a more tactical, team based approach, where it would add diverse gameplay choices rather than keep to the 'run and gun' formula of traditional Halo. Probably a reason why the BR was removed.

Well the AI teammates better be damn good then.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #16 on:** September 18, 2009, 06:11:20 PM »

Quote from: Bocsius on September 18, 2009, 06:02:20 PM

Quote from: InfectedGib on September 18, 2009, 05:56:50 PM
BR is removed from the campaign and firefight modes. Bungie felt the weapon was overpowered and jumped at the chance to remove it.

Remove overpowered crap like the energy sword and brute hammer and fluff like the SMG. The BR was the only decent weapon the game.

I'm pretty sure regular soldiers can't use energy swords and brute hammers anyway. I reckon since the SMG can't be dual-wielded, they will tweak it slightly so that you actually have a chance of inflicting some hurt with the damn thing.

demi · « **Reply #17 on:** September 18, 2009, 06:54:57 PM »

$20 gift card + fruity action toy (lyte edge alert) if you buy at TRU

drew · « **Reply #18 on:** September 18, 2009, 07:09:02 PM »

do you have to preorder it at tru to get it?

Third · « **Reply #19 on:** September 18, 2009, 07:15:33 PM »

Where are the reviews for this game?

And no, shitty reviews coming from obscure blog sites don't count.

demi · « **Reply #20 on:** September 18, 2009, 07:20:20 PM »

Quote from: drew on September 18, 2009, 07:09:02 PM

do you have to preorder it at tru to get it?

No

bork · « **Reply #21 on:** September 18, 2009, 07:32:57 PM »

Quote from: demi on September 18, 2009, 06:54:57 PM

$20 gift card + fruity action toy (lyte edge alert) if you buy at TRU

What do I care? It's not animu.

demi · « **Reply #22 on:** September 18, 2009, 07:34:37 PM »

You will care when you see them in Halo Legends

bork · « **Reply #23 on:** September 18, 2009, 07:52:32 PM »

I had a hard time getting through that five minute clip that was posted.

I really only play Halo for its multiplayer. Don't care about the campaign stuff.

Agent Whiskers · « **Reply #24 on:** September 18, 2009, 08:31:16 PM »

Okay so I started playing the game and immediately noticed the graphics are much better this time around. Not significantly overhauled but noticeably sharper. Character animations are pretty average and the facial animations are a bit wonky at times. Nathan Fillion's voice stood out the most among the crew members. Nothing out of the ordinary with the voice acting though.

Gameplay is (surprise!) Halo at its core, just with health packs that you pick up from med stations instead of regenerating shields. The VISR (which helps you differentiate between your enemies from friendlies) is pretty standard fare especially considering how tired my eyes were after utilizing Batman's detective mode for extended periods of time. It does help that it's easier on the eyes though.

I'm still at the very beginning and I don't know where the fuck i'm going. So far so average but here's hoping it gets much better.

Edit: Just realized that pressing up on the dpad shows the next location

drew · « **Reply #25 on:** September 18, 2009, 08:33:48 PM »

demi whered you see that offer?

was it in the paper or something?

im not seeing anything about it on the site:

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3602646&fromWidget=TRU%3ACategory%3ATop+Sellers

Agent Whiskers · « **Reply #26 on:** September 18, 2009, 08:40:44 PM »

More details: this game is much darker than Halo 3. It's pretty grim-looking; almost post-apocalyptic. And the music is great as always and really adds something special to the dank atmosphere. I'm now in Tayari Plaza packing a shotgun searching for an ODST squadmate. It's at least starting to pick up.

demi · « **Reply #27 on:** September 18, 2009, 08:44:10 PM »

Quote from: drew on September 18, 2009, 08:33:48 PM

demi whered you see that offer?

was it in the paper or something?

im not seeing anything about it on the site:

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3602646&fromWidget=TRU%3ACategory%3ATop+Sellers

It will be in the ad on Sunday

Mrbob · « **Reply #28 on:** September 18, 2009, 09:49:06 PM »

I can't believe how uninterested I am for this title. I've been there day one for Halo, Halo 2, and Halo 3. I'm trying to find the spark but it just isn't there.

If I had a Toys 'R Us near me I might have bit for the gift card.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #29 on:** September 18, 2009, 10:38:33 PM »

Why is everyone bitching about the BR, they brought back a scoped pistol.

Review embargo ends tomorrow night iirc.

Quote from: drew on September 18, 2009, 05:52:46 PM

i presume you can install the mythic disc as well

Yea but Halo 3 runs worse when installed than when not. ODST is optimized for game installations.

Tieno · « **Reply #30 on:** September 19, 2009, 01:14:55 PM »

Best Halo story recap so far! Pretty funny.
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/852871/bungie-project-2/videos/halo_in5_spc_091809.html

Well done IGN

drew · « **Reply #31 on:** September 19, 2009, 01:48:02 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on September 18, 2009, 10:38:33 PM

Yea but Halo 3 runs worse when installed than when not. ODST is optimized for game installations.

i would have hoped that theyd fixed that for the mythic disc

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #32 on:** September 19, 2009, 02:34:04 PM »

I'm not day 1 on this, but I will play it at some point. I'm just wondering if it's the same upscaled from sub-hd bullshit. I found Halo 3's image quality to be pretty fucking atrocious. It has that blurry-yet-jaggy quality that's so prevalent this gen.

demi · « **Reply #33 on:** September 19, 2009, 02:36:23 PM »

Plopped down a fiver at TRU

Tieno · « **Reply #34 on:** September 19, 2009, 02:38:59 PM »

Quote from: demi on September 19, 2009, 02:36:23 PM

Plopped down a fiver at TRU

Jesus, you're rich. What do you do for a living?

MCD · « **Reply #35 on:** September 19, 2009, 02:40:22 PM »

he's an actor, can't you tell from his avatars?

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #36 on:** September 19, 2009, 02:44:38 PM »

demi is mysterious. astronomical gamer score that would take an unimaginable commitment of time to get, yet appears to have a steady source of income to buy everything with.

MCD · « **Reply #37 on:** September 19, 2009, 03:00:47 PM »

my friend on msn just told me to listen to this track called Deference for Darkness:

https://www.sumthingdigital.com/AlbumDetails.aspx?albumid=4421

sooo good.

Tieno · « **Reply #38 on:** September 19, 2009, 03:06:32 PM »

My guess is that demi sells his poohole for money.

demi · « **Reply #39 on:** September 19, 2009, 03:08:58 PM »

Um... it's just a videogame. How am I rich?

Bocsius · « **Reply #40 on:** September 19, 2009, 03:59:35 PM »

Dude on my friends list is playing this right now.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Works at IGN. Or I assume he still works there, it's not like I read it. Not really a friend, either. Played Halo 2 together once.

[close]

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #41 on:** September 19, 2009, 04:37:26 PM »

Quote from: Kranz Fafka on September 19, 2009, 02:44:38 PM

demi is mysterious. astronomical gamer score that would take an unimaginable commitment of time to get, yet appears to have a steady source of income to buy everything with.

I'm thinking trust fund left by jet-setting parents who were killed in mysterious accident while on safari in sub-Saharan Africa.

Tieno · « **Reply #42 on:** September 19, 2009, 04:52:12 PM »

Quote from: a slime appears on September 19, 2009, 04:41:50 PM

Quote from: demi on September 19, 2009, 03:08:58 PM
Um... it's just a videogame. How am I rich?
Tieno is useless, don't mind him.

that's mean :'(

demi · « **Reply #43 on:** September 19, 2009, 05:00:50 PM »

Tieno didnt you buy a Mac recently? R U RICH?

Tieno · « **Reply #44 on:** September 19, 2009, 05:43:32 PM »

Quote from: demi on September 19, 2009, 05:00:50 PM

Tieno didnt you buy a Mac recently? R U RICH?

I live in Europe

Bocsius · « **Reply #45 on:** September 19, 2009, 05:46:54 PM »

Quote from: Tieno on September 19, 2009, 05:43:32 PM

Quote from: demi on September 19, 2009, 05:00:50 PM
Tieno didnt you buy a Mac recently? R U RICH?
I live in Europe

Oh, right.

Tieno didn't your socialist government buy you a Mac recently? IS UR GUBMINT RICH?

Tieno · « **Reply #46 on:** September 19, 2009, 05:50:54 PM »

Belgium is broke as shit, fucking wallons holding us back.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #47 on:** September 19, 2009, 10:36:58 PM »

Quote from: drew on September 19, 2009, 01:48:02 PM

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on September 18, 2009, 10:38:33 PM
Yea but Halo 3 runs worse when installed than when not. ODST is optimized for game installations.

i would have hoped that theyd fixed that for the mythic disc

How would they have, it's the same game. ODST is the new game and that has it fixed.

Why would you wanna install it anyway? Since when are load times an issue in multiplayer? I'm looking forward to deleting all the DLC taking up space on the hard drive and just running the disc.

drew · « **Reply #48 on:** September 19, 2009, 11:51:57 PM »

i only like to played installed games

makes me feel like my 360 isnt a ticking time bomb

Trent Dole · « **Reply #49 on:** September 19, 2009, 11:57:01 PM »

Quote from: drew on September 19, 2009, 11:51:57 PM

i only like to played installed games

makes me feel like my 360 isnt a ticking time bomb

I installed all my stuff and my 360 died anyway~

Bocsius · « **Reply #50 on:** September 20, 2009, 01:33:33 AM »

For you review-minded people

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/102/1025307p1.html

duckman2000 · « **Reply #51 on:** September 20, 2009, 01:36:59 AM »

A 9 in graphics, lulz

Bocsius · « **Reply #52 on:** September 20, 2009, 01:37:54 AM »

Yeah, but the scale starts at 7. So that's really like a 6.5.

cool breeze · « **Reply #53 on:** September 20, 2009, 02:13:32 AM »

I only read the last bit but the guy does say it's because of the art direction. Whatever. It's not a bad looking game, just not a really good looking games. It fits somewhere between passable graphics and good graphics. Only thing I care to know about from reviews is how they deal with multiplayer. Do they judge horde or everything? it basically includes Halo 3 multiplayer, right? it's good multiplayer, but it's a straight rip from Halo 3.

Ordered it on Amazon a week or so ago. I'm hoping this Amazon day and date delivery thing works.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #54 on:** September 20, 2009, 02:21:30 AM »

What's more lulzy is that Halo fanboys would make for damned good PS3 fanboys if they ever needed to switch sides. Same need to defend the indefensible, and apparently the same desire to see certain review sources removed from the tally.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #55 on:** September 20, 2009, 02:23:42 AM »

A comment on the IGN review:

"9/10? wtf? I saw a video of this game and it deserved at least a 10/10. this is shoutrageous and slutterly bignorant of YOU!!!"

... was that written by Father_Mike?

demi · « **Reply #56 on:** September 20, 2009, 02:24:23 AM »

Halo baby, Halo

Get hype

MCD · « **Reply #57 on:** September 20, 2009, 02:25:36 AM »

Willco-san destroyed...

Bocsius · « **Reply #58 on:** September 20, 2009, 02:26:48 AM »

I got back on XBL today to get back into the swing of it. My last game was in March, and my last real action was February.

Did standard social slayer matchmaking, was no good the first game, slightly better the second, and allright for the last three.

K-D
3-6
6-10
11-4
11-7
8-0

:statwhore

Bocsius · « **Reply #59 on:** September 20, 2009, 02:31:24 AM »

From skimming the review, the one concern I have is about Firefight. Apparently, it will be too overwhelming if you are going to play it alone, you need friends (and there is no matchmaking). I might have one or two people on my list who will play it, but not all the time.

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