Author Topic: I saw Zelda: TP for Gamecube tonight (Read 12716 times)

CajoleJuice · « **on:** December 12, 2006, 11:26:37 PM »

But then I saw the DMC 5th Anniversary Collection and bought that instead.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1 on:** December 12, 2006, 11:28:13 PM »

Did you pop a bonner?

Christopher · « **Reply #2 on:** December 12, 2006, 11:31:25 PM »

CAJOLE

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #3 on:** December 12, 2006, 11:34:46 PM »

You really want my cock in your ass don't you Chris?

Christopher · « **Reply #4 on:** December 12, 2006, 11:47:22 PM »

no it's your turn this week though, last week was bluetsunami's.

TVC15 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 13, 2006, 12:23:45 AM »

Zelda ain't much of a looker. It looks like a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow that applied makeup by dunking her head in a toilet bowl filled with diarrhea and pea soup. It's a return to the awful looking Zelda's of the N64 days, except they at least looked decent for their time.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #6 on:** December 13, 2006, 12:39:43 AM »

Yeah, the Gamecube version ain't none too pretty, either. Is the Wii version 60fps? 'cuz the GC version sure ain't!

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #7 on:** December 13, 2006, 12:44:25 AM »

What zelda game are yall playing? Im looking at my HD 480p zelda and its looking very nice.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #8 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:01:16 AM »

Probably one that doesnt exist in your imagination.

etiolate · « **Reply #9 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:07:11 AM »

I certainly don't cringe when I look at Zelda.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #10 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:12:38 AM »

People with big expensive tvs think a game running on 5 year old tech looks bad, not surprised here.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #11 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:14:52 AM »

Guess my 53 inch HD flat screen makes 5 year old technology look great. Plus it helps that im playing a game that is fun.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #12 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:15:30 AM »

No I think your mental condition makes your imagination reality.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #13 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:17:01 AM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on December 13, 2006, 01:15:30 AM

No I think your mental condition makes your imagination reality.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #14 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:19:14 AM »

Ah rolleyes...

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #15 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:24:00 AM »

I think his lack of experience with actual next-gen consoles probably leaves him with a more forgiving attitude towards Wii visuals.

That being said, I wonder what cables the Wii kiosks use...because if it's component, then Zelda does look pretty underwhelming. In addition, when you play Rainbow 6:Vegas and Viva Pinata concurrently with Zelda, there's no chance of Zelda looking good by comparison.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #16 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:26:40 AM »

I crapped my pants when I saw the Lotus mission in R6. I've never seen a console do so much OMG OMG.

Zelda wins with this mystical special brand of 'fun' that according to Nintendo fans is different from OTHER games' 'fun'. Id take Nintendo fans more seriously if they didnt sound so fucking insane and cheer when miyamoto comes out with a stupid fucking sword and shield and say shit like HAVING A HORSE IN ZELDA WAS LIKE HAVING A REAL FRIEND or other dumb ntard shit.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #17 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:29:39 AM »

Well, to be fair, I think a lot of the people over at GAF said the same about SotC.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #18 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:32:55 AM »

Gears of War is a bad ass game, im not going to lie, im tempted to buy a 360 just for that.

The difference between me and you is that I can appreciate good games. You cant unless they are the best graphics ever.

And I never said Raibow 5 isnt fun. It looks great. The reason I say zelda is fun all the time is because i get sick and tired of you douchbags talking about graphics all the time. Get over it. Games with less than steller graphics can still be fun. The DS didnt fail because of the graphics and either will the Wii.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #19 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:36:41 AM »

If all we care about is graphics, then why the fuck is DS winning the PLATFORM OF THE YEAR poll?

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #20 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:38:55 AM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on December 13, 2006, 01:36:41 AM

If all we care about is graphics, then why the fuck is DS winning the PLATFORM OF THE YEAR poll?

How should I know, im not the one spewing shit about the wiis graphics.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #21 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:45:33 AM »

R6 gameplay rocks all over that lame elf running around grabbing them same fuckin sword n shield

TVC15 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:47:23 AM »

FoC, GoW is a bad game. It's lame. Everything it does, R6 does better. Of course, you are arguing that Zelda looks good. Dragona doesn't even think Zelda looks good, and she is a certifiable N-fan. Have you even played a next gen game? Zelda's textures are awful. It's the worst looking Zelda since OoT.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #23 on:** December 13, 2006, 01:58:44 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 13, 2006, 01:47:23 AM

FoC, GoW is a bad game. It's lame. Everything it does, R6 does better. Of course, you are arguing that Zelda looks good. Dragona doesn't even think Zelda looks good, and she is a certifiable N-fan. Have you even played a next gen game? Zelda's textures are awful. It's the worst looking Zelda since OoT.

Dragona is also a fucking moron. Im not arguing Zelda is some amazing breakthrough. I'm saying that the graphics work and are not shitty, they are pretty good, not to mention the art. Look if a graphics of a game wont let you enjoy it perhaps there is something else the game isnt doing to keep your attention.

Vizzys · « **Reply #24 on:** December 13, 2006, 02:03:14 AM »

GoW is awesome. !!!!!

TVC15 · « **Reply #25 on:** December 13, 2006, 02:09:30 AM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on December 13, 2006, 01:58:44 AM

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 13, 2006, 01:47:23 AM
FoC, GoW is a bad game. It's lame. Everything it does, R6 does better. Of course, you are arguing that Zelda looks good. Dragona doesn't even think Zelda looks good, and she is a certifiable N-fan. Have you even played a next gen game? Zelda's textures are awful. It's the worst looking Zelda since OoT.

Dragona is also a fucking moron. Im not arguing Zelda is some amazing breakthrough. I'm saying that the graphics work and are not shitty, they are pretty good, not to mention the art. Look if a graphics of a game wont let you enjoy it perhaps there is something else the game isnt doing to keep your attention.

It's foolish to deny that graphics are an important part of gaming. TP has the models, but its environments are noticeably not so hot. It's a good game, but looking good is not a virtue it can claim.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #26 on:** December 13, 2006, 02:25:32 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 13, 2006, 02:09:30 AM

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on December 13, 2006, 01:58:44 AM
Quote from: TVC 15 on December 13, 2006, 01:47:23 AM
FoC, GoW is a bad game. It's lame. Everything it does, R6 does better. Of course, you are arguing that Zelda looks good. Dragona doesn't even think Zelda looks good, and she is a certifiable N-fan. Have you even played a next gen game? Zelda's textures are awful. It's the worst looking Zelda since OoT.

Dragona is also a fucking moron. Im not arguing Zelda is some amazing breakthrough. I'm saying that the graphics work and are not shitty, they are pretty good, not to mention the art. Look if a graphics of a game wont let you enjoy it perhaps there is something else the game isnt doing to keep your attention.

It's foolish to deny that graphics are an important part of gaming. TP has the models, but its environments are noticeably not so hot. It's a good game, but looking good is not a virtue it can claim.

Yea sure graphics are importan, but how important? Important enough to say a game sucks based solely on looks?

Wii sports has pretty average graphics, but its a blast to play.

TVC15 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 13, 2006, 02:28:36 AM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on December 13, 2006, 02:25:32 AM

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 13, 2006, 02:09:30 AM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on December 13, 2006, 01:58:44 AM
Quote from: TVC 15 on December 13, 2006, 01:47:23 AM
FoC, GoW is a bad game. It's lame. Everything it does, R6 does better. Of course, you are arguing that Zelda looks good. Dragona doesn't even think Zelda looks good, and she is a certifiable N-fan. Have you even played a next gen game? Zelda's textures are awful. It's the worst looking Zelda since OoT.

Dragona is also a fucking moron. Im not arguing Zelda is some amazing breakthrough. I'm saying that the graphics work and are not shitty, they are pretty good, not to mention the art. Look if a graphics of a game wont let you enjoy it perhaps there is something else the game isnt doing to keep your attention.

It's foolish to deny that graphics are an important part of gaming. TP has the models, but its environments are noticeably not so hot. It's a good game, but looking good is not a virtue it can claim.

Yea sure graphics are importan, but how important? Important enough to say a game sucks based solely on looks?

Wii sports has pretty average graphics, but its a blast to play.

I doubt a game with otherwise strong merits can be deemed bad due to its looks, but you would be foolish to think it wouldn't be dinged.

I firmly stand by my assertion that Wii Sports is 50% garbage and would not have been wise to release as a sale game in the states.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #28 on:** December 13, 2006, 02:31:02 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 13, 2006, 02:28:36 AM

I firmly stand by my assertion that Wii Sports is 50% garbage and would not have been wise to release as a sale game in the states.

Aha!

Flashback to 2001. Japan doesnt matter!

TVC15 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 13, 2006, 02:33:46 AM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on December 13, 2006, 02:31:02 AM

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 13, 2006, 02:28:36 AM
I firmly stand by my assertion that Wii Sports is 50% garbage and would not have been wise to release as a sale game in the states.

Aha!

Flashback to 2001. Japan doesnt matter!

I don't even know what this means. You're just stone distinguished mentally-challenged.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #30 on:** December 13, 2006, 02:35:09 AM »

You sound like all the gamers back in 2001 claiming that Japan no longer matters for the market. Would Wii sports not have sold in the States? Who knows, but in Japan is sold more than Zelda thats insane.

TVC15 · « **Reply #31 on:** December 13, 2006, 02:40:35 AM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on December 13, 2006, 02:35:09 AM

You sound like all the gamers back in 2001 claiming that Japan no longer matters for the market. Would Wii sports not have sold in the States? Who knows, but in Japan is sold more than Zelda thats insane.

Not only have I never said anything like that, but I do not recall anyone saying anything similar.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #32 on:** December 13, 2006, 02:42:35 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 13, 2006, 02:40:35 AM

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on December 13, 2006, 02:35:09 AM
You sound like all the gamers back in 2001 claiming that Japan no longer matters for the market. Would Wii sports not have sold in the States? Who knows, but in Japan is sold more than Zelda thats insane.

Not only have I never said anything like that, but I do not recall anyone saying anything similar.

Not saying you did at all, but this something i heard back then. Xbox was coming out and every thought the end of the east was coming.

TVC15 · « **Reply #33 on:** December 13, 2006, 02:48:30 AM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on December 13, 2006, 02:42:35 AM

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 13, 2006, 02:40:35 AM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on December 13, 2006, 02:35:09 AM
You sound like all the gamers back in 2001 claiming that Japan no longer matters for the market. Would Wii sports not have sold in the States? Who knows, but in Japan is sold more than Zelda thats insane.

Not only have I never said anything like that, but I do not recall anyone saying anything similar.

Not saying you did at all, but this something i heard back then. Xbox was coming out and every thought the end of the east was coming.

You're just making shit up now. THe GC had a very nice launch. Next you will be saying that TP doesn't look like a pile of puke.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #34 on:** December 13, 2006, 02:51:14 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 13, 2006, 02:48:30 AM

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on December 13, 2006, 02:42:35 AM
Quote from: TVC 15 on December 13, 2006, 02:40:35 AM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on December 13, 2006, 02:35:09 AM
You sound like all the gamers back in 2001 claiming that Japan no longer matters for the market. Would Wii sports not have sold in the States? Who knows, but in Japan is sold more than Zelda thats insane.

Not only have I never said anything like that, but I do not recall anyone saying anything similar.

Not saying you did at all, but this something i heard back then. Xbox was coming out and every thought the end of the east was coming.

You're just making shit up now. THe GC had a very nice launch. Next you will be saying that TP doesn't look like a pile of puke.

Did Nintendo Rape yalls babies? Zelda looks fine, not like puke.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #35 on:** December 13, 2006, 03:03:46 AM »

I think we should have a poll where we determine what FoC's demeaning tag should be. We should use this space to come up with contenders.

I'm thinking "Fills his emptiness with Nintendo" is a contender, what do you guys have?

TVC15 · « **Reply #36 on:** December 13, 2006, 03:06:14 AM »

He can't even admit that TP isn't the best looking game ever. I think FoC has spent way too much time huffing paint.

That saddest bit is I'd have no problem arguing for him being unbanned at GAF if he'd sounded like he even had half a brain.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #37 on:** December 13, 2006, 03:16:04 AM »

Right, so far in the Demeaning FoC Tag Derby we have:

-Fills His Emptiness With Nintendo
-Spent Way Too Much Time Huffing Paint

Come on folks, you can enter too!

TVC15 · « **Reply #38 on:** December 13, 2006, 03:17:28 AM »

Quote from: Emperor Triumph I on December 13, 2006, 03:16:04 AM

Right, so far in the Demeaning FoC Tag Derby we have:

-Fills His Emptiness With Nintendo
-Spent Way Too Much Time Huffing Paint

Come on folks, you can enter too!

You know, his short film looked pretty good, for the most part. I find it difficult to believe such idiocy could be behind something so competent.

Oblivion · « **Reply #39 on:** December 13, 2006, 03:45:28 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 13, 2006, 12:23:45 AM

Zelda ain't much of a looker. It looks like a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow that applied makeup by dunking her head in a toilet bowl filled with diarrhea and pea soup. It's a return to the awful looking Zelda's of the N64 days, except they at least looked decent for their time.

Okay, saying Zelda ain't the best looking GC game is one thing. Saying it's downright hideous is another. Seriously.

And Dragona's always hated TP. Even if it didn't have any texture problems. She's enamored by mutant Link from Wind Waker, and assumed TP was going to have guns and hookers or some shit.

Bacon · « **Reply #40 on:** December 13, 2006, 09:19:59 AM »

The later dungeons in Zelda looked pretty damn good.

demi · « **Reply #41 on:** December 13, 2006, 09:40:29 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 13, 2006, 03:06:14 AM

That saddest bit is I'd have no problem arguing for him being unbanned at GAF if he'd sounded like he even had half a brain.

:|

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #42 on:** December 13, 2006, 03:42:23 PM »

I bought it today for $38.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #43 on:** December 13, 2006, 03:56:16 PM »

TP's dungeons are fuck awesome, although I have yet to encounter one as good as the best seen in WW and MM. But MAN the crap they make you do between dungeons is tedious as fuck -- there's very few mini-dungeons or event battles or bounty-type quests like Okami, but loads of COLLECT THIS SHIT OR DO THIS distinguished mentally-challenged MINI-GAME. Between the sumo shit in the early game and the fucking horseback mini-game sequences: ARGH. If they weren't mandatory, like fishing, I'd be cool. MINI-GAMES DIE DIE DIE.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #44 on:** December 13, 2006, 04:04:28 PM »

You've been playing the GC version, right Drinky?

I'm not going to start the game until I fucking finally beat Ninja Gaiden Black, which I haven't been able to play lately because my friend's Xbox is a piece of shit that can't read discs most of the time. It worked the other day though, so I played for a while.

Then, it's Zelda time.

TVC15 · « **Reply #45 on:** December 13, 2006, 04:06:25 PM »

True story: Drinky has an extra copy of the GC version, and he offered it to me because he knew I was finding the waggle lukewarm, half-implemented, and tedious. I turned down the copy of the game because I cannot imagine ever playing through those godawful first 2 or so hours of the game again. Really, if the game wasn't a Zelda game, I probably would've turned it off after the first hour and traded it in.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #46 on:** December 13, 2006, 04:07:00 PM »

Yeah, don't take my mockery of Himuro and the Ninthing Brigade too far -- Zelda: TP *is* a great game and when it's on, it's on like fuckin' Donkey Kong.

TVC:

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #47 on:** December 13, 2006, 04:08:20 PM »

I know how to read through the bullshit for the most part, Drinky.

But wtf, you had a extra copy!

YOU'VE HAD THIS EXTRA PAIR OF GLOVES THIS WHOLE TIME?!?!?

Bacon · « **Reply #48 on:** December 13, 2006, 04:14:36 PM »

I hear the GC version has slowdown.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #49 on:** December 13, 2006, 04:15:33 PM »

Quote from: Bacon on December 13, 2006, 04:14:36 PM

I hear the GC version has slowdown.

Can you attest to this Drinky?

demi · « **Reply #50 on:** December 13, 2006, 04:30:41 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on December 13, 2006, 04:06:25 PM

True story: Drinky has an extra copy of the GC version, and he offered it to me because he knew I was finding the waggle lukewarm, half-implemented, and tedious. I turned down the copy of the game because I cannot imagine ever playing through those godawful first 2 or so hours of the game again. Really, if the game wasn't a Zelda game, I probably would've turned it off after the first hour and traded it in.

Did you just spoil my Secret Santa gift

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #51 on:** December 13, 2006, 04:57:48 PM »

There's some slowdown in the cart chase bit, but it's really not significant. Actually, there's little patches of slowdown from time to time, but nothing I'd mention in a review.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #52 on:** December 13, 2006, 04:59:23 PM »

From what I've seen over at GAF, it's the people that already played the Wii version that really noticed it. I'm sure it won't bother me, as not even SotC bothered me.

Wobedraggled · « **Reply #53 on:** December 13, 2006, 05:01:34 PM »

Zelda Wii looks fantastic at 480p

Considering the scope of the game I'm shocked it fits onto a gc disc.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #54 on:** December 13, 2006, 05:02:28 PM »

Jesus, you won't even notice it, then. I see a hitch from time to time, but 99% of the time it's a rock-solid 30 fps. Outside of some nicely-faked pseudo-HDR effects, TP doesn't seem to be pushing the Cube all that hard, anyhow.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #55 on:** December 13, 2006, 05:03:48 PM »

Wobe: the assets are 16-bit and compressed as fuck, at least on the GC. That's a good question, actually; I didn't see any dithering or banding in the Wii Zelda -- hopefully Nintendo used the increased storage space to bump up the color depth and improve the texture compression.

Wobedraggled · « **Reply #56 on:** December 13, 2006, 05:07:27 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on December 13, 2006, 05:03:48 PM

Wobe: the assets are 16-bit and compressed as fuck, at least on the GC. That's a good question, actually; I didn't see any dithering or banding in the Wii Zelda -- hopefully Nintendo used the increased storage space to bump up the color depth and improve the texture compression.

What they should have done was upped the textures to 24bit, but would have pushed it past launch.

Still looks fucking fantastic though, and I havent seens any odd color banding shit like I do in Re4 for example.

Oblivion · « **Reply #57 on:** December 13, 2006, 06:28:13 PM »

Some of the cutscenes that I've seen are in 60fps, I believe (wii version).

Drinky, how far are you in? The awesome dungeons won't come till later.

Himu · « **Reply #58 on:** December 13, 2006, 06:43:08 PM »

GOOD CHOICE CAJOLE!

BEST 3D ACTION SERIES EVARRRRRRRRRR

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #59 on:** December 13, 2006, 08:19:40 PM »

The third official temple -- the lake one. Just got the claw shot and saved.

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Author Topic: I saw Zelda: TP for Gamecube tonight (Read 12716 times)