Author Topic: Inafune agrees with the Bore - Japan sucks and is finished (Read 19498 times)

pilonv1 · « **on:** September 26, 2009, 01:38:06 AM »

http://www.destructoid.com/tgs-09-keiji-inafune-dumps-on-tokyo-game-show-2009-149909.phtml

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At a hands-on event for Dead Rising 2, producer Keiji Inafune (father of Mega Man) had some not-so-nice-words about this year's Tokyo Game Show.

After asking the crowd of attendees what they thought of TGS this year (and urging them to be honest in their responses), Inafune expressed disappointment in this year's show and its games line-up.

"Personally when I looked around [at] all the different games at the TGS floor," Capcom's Ben Judd translated Inafune, "I said 'Man, Japan is over. We're done. Our game industry is finished.'"

However, he then uses Capcom's upcoming titles as an example of "kick ass" games coming from Japan. An interesting remark, as Dead Rising 2 is being handled by Canadian studio Blue Castle Games.

While Inafune's remarks may seem harsh, he's not alone in his feelings -- many we've spoken to have told us they were underwhelmed by this year's shows. It's certainly smaller in size, and many Japanese developers (some due mainly to financial reasons) have chosen not to attend this year's show.

EB ahead of the curve again

treythemovie · « **Reply #1 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:39:06 AM »

How many people would actually disagree with Inafune's sentiment though?

Jansen · « **Reply #2 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:40:53 AM »

we need to send a team in and get capcom outta there!

Bebpo · « **Reply #3 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:50:06 AM »

Eh, why don't they try to make some interesting games like they did when this gen first started then? Sequel sequel sequel sure isn't going to change any perceptions.

treythemovie · « **Reply #4 on:** September 26, 2009, 02:02:11 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 26, 2009, 01:50:06 AM

Eh, why don't they try to make some interesting games like they did when this gen first started then? Sequel sequel sequel sure isn't going to change any perceptions.

To be fair, going from the sequel happy Capcom of previous gens to taking 4 years to make a Dead Rising sequel is pretty good.

cool breeze · « **Reply #5 on:** September 26, 2009, 02:05:29 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 26, 2009, 01:50:06 AM

Eh, why don't they try to make some interesting games like they did when this gen first started then? Sequel sequel sequel sure isn't going to change any perceptions.

They made interesting game when the gen started with Dead Rising. Lost Planet was good, but for some reason I remember reading that it was supposed to be their answer to western game design or something. Other than those two, what else was there? DMC4? still a sequel. Doesn't matter since they're all still solid games. Last gen they had more interesting games from just Clover. I wouldn't mind seeing more fresh games or whatever, but I also wouldn't mind getting more great sequels. Bring on Onimusha 5 and Strider remake and, um, Captain Commando 2 XBLA.

And Sega should get Platinum Games to do a Comix Zone game.

tiesto · « **Reply #6 on:** September 26, 2009, 02:06:03 AM »

When Japan is done with gaming, so am I... will probably free up a lot of time in the future for me, at least. Maybe that'd be a good thing.

bork · « **Reply #7 on:** September 26, 2009, 02:10:51 AM »

Quote from: tiesto on September 26, 2009, 02:06:03 AM

When Japan is done with gaming, so am I... will probably free up a lot of time in the future for me, at least. Maybe that'd be a good thing.

Japanese gaming development's not going anywhere. They just need to get with the times in ~~some~~ a lot of areas. Those wacky-JRPGs still seem to sell by the truckload regardless.

Bebpo · « **Reply #8 on:** September 26, 2009, 02:23:11 AM »

Quote from: tiesto on September 26, 2009, 02:06:03 AM

When Japan is done with gaming, so am I... will probably free up a lot of time in the future for me, at least. Maybe that'd be a good thing.

There are a lot of good western games in the last 5 years. You should give more of them a try in different genre you weren't sure if you'd like.

I played very few western games before this gen outside major PC titles like Valve stuff and occasionally a sports game. But from the start of this gen I was experimenting with all kinds of western developed X360 titles and I found I enjoyed a ton of new genres I never thought I'd dig like squad based military combat in Ghost Recon for instance. Now I probably play about 50/50 split between western/Japanese developed games and 9/10 times the western ones are better.

I guess it helped that I enjoy good graphics, so good looking western games give me an incentive to try them out and give them a fair chance. I know you're not really a gfx guy though, so you just need to take a blind leap on some of them :X

cool breeze · « **Reply #9 on:** September 26, 2009, 02:27:04 AM »

Quote from: tiesto on September 26, 2009, 02:06:03 AM

When Japan is done with gaming, so am I... will probably free up a lot of time in the future for me, at least. Maybe that'd be a good thing.

It's really just a joke dealing with console games. Japan still puts out a lot of good DS and PSP games.

tiesto · « **Reply #10 on:** September 26, 2009, 02:30:14 AM »

It's really the genres the west concentrates in, are stuff I've played before and have no interest in. Plus, I find games that try too hard to play/look realistic to be boring and unappealing. On occasion, I'll try to be open minded when it comes to this stuff, and go out of my comfort zone... then I'll get either bored or disgusted and go right back to what I usually prefer. I don't care about graphics/resolution/etc either, which puts me at odds with a lot of EB/GAF.

The last few western made games I liked were Wipeout HD (ummm, geez that shouldn't be surprising), Fallout 3, and Nanostray 2.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #11 on:** September 26, 2009, 02:45:54 AM »

I think the problem is the apathy of the japanese gaming marketplace. Without that audience they're left trying to appeal to western demographics and that's not their forte so to speak. Kinda sucks because the way Japanese developers instill personality into their games
is something I prefer to what western developers attempt with their delusions of grandeur. That's not to say I am commending Metal Gear or rpgs.

I think if they want to get Japan interested again they'll have to develop low cost games on a low cost platform. The ds still sells well and there are countless games that exhibit great legs. Level 5 is having a field day watching sales of Professor Layton and Inazuma Eleven hold their positions on the chart the entire year. I could probably point to many more examples. My main point is that the reason the DS and DS software is so successful when the rest of the industry is falling on its face is intrinsically linked to the low barrier of entry. Games have more intuitive controls, 2d is easier to comprehend, and the games and system are at impulse prices.

Jansen · « **Reply #12 on:** September 26, 2009, 02:46:12 AM »

as long as capgod survives the rest of japan's developers could go diaf for all i care

Bebpo · « **Reply #13 on:** September 26, 2009, 03:01:34 AM »

actually I just like to give Inafune shit until he announces Devil May Cry 5 since half of 4 was fucking awesome and 3 is still the best action game ever made. I want my next one announced so I can be playing it by 2011!

Raban · « **Reply #14 on:** September 26, 2009, 03:20:46 AM »

Make Mega Man Legends 3 you fuck! And more 8-bit Mega Man. Generally just more Mega Man. MEGA MAN.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #15 on:** September 26, 2009, 03:56:04 AM »

Hey let's address our creativity and output redundancy by releasing more sequels to megaman!

And hey now, the most successful publisher in the world resides in japan, its possible to do it right. Unless Activision overtook them in the last year.

Raban · « **Reply #16 on:** September 26, 2009, 03:59:03 AM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on September 26, 2009, 03:56:04 AM

Hey let's address our creativity and output redundancy by releasing more sequels to megaman!

And hey now, the most successful publisher in the world resides in japan, its possible to do it right. Unless Activision overtook them in the last year.

I'm only kidding. I really do want a proper sequel to MML2, but I'm more interested in Capcom making new IPs constantly. Dead Rising and Lost Planet were both excellent, last gen had Okami, Viewtiful Joe, Killer 7, some really awesome stuff. My only real issue with Capcom is; what are the developing in-house? Everything they do seems to be outsourced. Even MM9 was done by Inticreates. Nothing ever seems to be DEVELOPED by Capcom anymore. Did they become publisher-exclusive when I wasn't looking?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #17 on:** September 26, 2009, 04:15:23 AM »

Dude is right. Japan sucks.

Nobody cares about their developers anymore except for JRPG fans and Japanese dudes into horse racing sims and turn based strategy games.

America has them beat on action games, shooters, RPGs, sports, etc.

Game over, Japan.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #18 on:** September 26, 2009, 04:18:02 AM »

The only thing that is blatantly outsourced would be something like cavia for the rail gun resident evil games, or whoever is doing dead rising 2. I consider Inticreates almost like an integral part of capcom at this point. Otherwise welcome to nextgen! You may notice higher dev costs have stifled creativity, so I would suggest you invest in a portable game machine and enjoy your stay.

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Raban · « **Reply #19 on:** September 26, 2009, 04:19:24 AM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on September 26, 2009, 04:18:02 AM

The only thing that is blatantly outsourced would be something like cavia for the rail gun resident evil games, or whoever is doing dead rising 2. I consider Inticreates almost like an integral part of capcom at this point. Otherwise welcome to nextgen! You may notice higher dev costs have stifled creativity, so I would suggest you invest in a portable game machine and enjoy your stay.

My DS is treating me well. So I guess outsourcing is here to stay to keep production costs out of the stratosphere. That's shitty.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #20 on:** September 26, 2009, 04:26:19 AM »

I wouldn't say outsourcing is there to reduce costs. Western developers actually require paid overtime! Its more to do with distributing a much wider work load onto someone else. Inafune seems to be more in an overseer position these days, he made games once upon a time but alot of these old designers end up in positions where they can input their experience on multiple projects simultaneously.

demi · « **Reply #21 on:** September 26, 2009, 04:32:47 AM »

Quote from: tiesto on September 26, 2009, 02:06:03 AM

When Japan is done with gaming, so am I... will probably free up a lot of time in the future for me, at least. Maybe that'd be a good thing.

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Raban · « **Reply #22 on:** September 26, 2009, 04:33:11 AM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on September 26, 2009, 04:26:19 AM

I wouldn't say outsourcing is there to reduce costs. Western developers actually require paid overtime! Its more to do with distributing a much wider work load onto someone else. Inafune seems to be more in an overseer position these days, he made games once upon a time but alot of these old designers end up in positions where they can input their experience on multiple projects simultaneously.

I just wish people like Inafune and Kojima actually had an integral role in some part of the game design outside of just overseeing the project. It sucks that games like those before will never be made again because does anybody honestly foresee a game developer somehow spawning some kind of game design legend like Inafune, Kojima, Miyamoto, Mikami or anybody else? Sure Suda 51 is a pretty awesome game designer and his name is getting tossed around quite a bit for somebody so new to the scene, but other than that I can't really name legendary game designers out of even the last two generations.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #23 on:** September 26, 2009, 05:18:57 AM »

(Drinks microbrew and enjoys view from other side of ocean)

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #24 on:** September 26, 2009, 10:48:48 AM »

I play more jappa games than ameri games.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #25 on:** September 26, 2009, 11:24:08 AM »

Fortunately, Itagaki exists to save gaming.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #26 on:** September 26, 2009, 11:39:43 AM »

I don't like FPS's and racing games. That's why I go to Japan.

Third · « **Reply #27 on:** September 26, 2009, 12:08:47 PM »

I'm not a japafag, but I think jap devs make better games overall. Jap devs make more creative games.

western devs make pretty generic games.

the reason why western games are more popular now is because the majority of people have shitty taste.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #28 on:** September 26, 2009, 12:37:23 PM »

Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on September 26, 2009, 11:39:43 AM

I don't like FPS's and racing games. That's why I go to Japan.

No, you like fey girly men which is why you're a pre-op weeaboo.

Beezy · « **Reply #29 on:** September 26, 2009, 12:53:03 PM »

When I look through my GC/Xbox/PS2 games, almost everything is from Japan.

If I exclude Capcom, most of my games and my favorites this gen are western. Seems like he's right to me...

tiesto · « **Reply #30 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:02:41 PM »

Quote from: Third on September 26, 2009, 12:08:47 PM

I'm not a japafag, but I think jap devs make better games overall. Jap devs make more creative games.

western devs make pretty generic games.

the reason why western games are more popular now is because the majority of people have shitty taste.

Agreed with this post... occasionally you'll get a Mirror's Edge or a Portal... but usually it's FPS, sandbox, FPS, sandbox, music game.

If I could narrow it down, I'd say out of western game developers, Europe tends to make much more original games than America.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #31 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:19:37 PM »

I don't see anything amazing coming out from America. RTS's look kinda interesting though.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #32 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:22:15 PM »

Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on September 26, 2009, 01:19:37 PM

I don't see anything amazing coming out from America.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #33 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:26:38 PM »

To be fair, the best developers are mostly Canadian.

That said, the total creative output of North American developers obliterates Japan. Western developers have outshined and outclassed their Japanese counterparts in every single, genre.

Japafags can't even cling to role-playing games as a sense of pride, because BioWare and Bethesda have mopped the floor with every Japanese developer the past decade.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #34 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:27:57 PM »

Even Kosma is right!

Beezy · « **Reply #35 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:28:39 PM »

Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on September 26, 2009, 01:19:37 PM

I don't see anything amazing coming out from America.

What do you see coming out of Japan?

tiesto · « **Reply #36 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:29:56 PM »

Quote from: Willco on September 26, 2009, 01:26:38 PM

To be fair, the best developers are mostly Canadian.

That said, the total creative output of North American developers obliterate Japan. Western developers have outshined and outclassed their Japanese counterparts in every single, genre.

Japafags can't even cling to role-playing games as a sense of pride, because BioWare and Bethesda have mopped the floor with every Japanese developer the past decade.

I like Fallout 3 as much as the next guy, but that's a total lie. And where are all these wonderful American 2D games? Or shmups? Or fighting games?

I'm sure America shines in boring military uber-realistic FPSes, but to be honest, Call of Duty 4 was one of the most forgettable games I've ever played (received it for free from a GAFfer on the dev team), and I haven't played any others.

tiesto · « **Reply #37 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:30:22 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on September 26, 2009, 01:28:39 PM

Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on September 26, 2009, 01:19:37 PM
I don't see anything amazing coming out from America.
What do you see coming out of Japan?

That new Level 5 - Studio Ghibli collab, for one. 3D Dot Game Heroes looks interesting. FF13, DQ6 and the US version of 9, End of Eternity.. all look like they're gonna be worth playing.

Where are all these amazing American games that are coming out? Another Call of Duty? Another Rock Band? Another Gears of War? Another Halo? Another movie license game? I'll admit I don't really pay attention to gaming too much anymore, but I'd love to hear some more.

Beezy · « **Reply #38 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:30:53 PM »

2D games is not a genre

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #39 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:32:16 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on September 26, 2009, 01:28:39 PM

What do you see coming out of Japan?

(which reminds me, the Japanese do have us beat when it comes to fighters, actually - so I amend my early statement.)

cool breeze · « **Reply #40 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:33:20 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on September 26, 2009, 01:10:44 PM

i agree japan USED to be the "ideas factory" but now...?

really?!

3d Dot Game Heroes aside, Japan really is a bad way.

Japan isn't so different from America in that they latch onto a trend and milk it. As much as I like the Peace Walker demo, it's another game influenced by Monster Hunter success. Just look at all the games released or coming in the future that are influenced by Monster Hunter. It's no different than the obsession with a cover mechanic or audio logs in America.

and yeah, Japan is still better when it comes to fighting and action games. I enjoy God of War, but come on, most that come from Japan are way better. Bayonetta is probably going to be too. Japan's attempts at making shooter is also better than America's attempts at making fighting games.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #41 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:34:16 PM »

I like how tiesto writes off almost every genre except a handful of Japafag favorites, that are as every bit as repetitive as the genres he hates.

Shmups! Fighters! 2D games!

... Yeah, Japanese don't milk their fighters or shmup- O WAIT.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #42 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:36:15 PM »

Best part:

Quote from: tiesto

... FF13, DQ6 and the US version of 9, End of Eternity.. all look like they're gonna be worth playing.

Where are all these amazing American games that are coming out? Another Call of Duty? Another Rock Band? Another Gears of War? Another Halo?

My sequels are better than your sequels!

Beezy · « **Reply #43 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:37:04 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on September 26, 2009, 01:30:22 PM

Where are all these amazing American games that are coming out? Another Call of Duty? Another Rock Band? Another Gears of War? Another Halo? Another movie license game? I'll admit I don't really pay attention to gaming too much anymore, but I'd love to hear some more.

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=30543.0

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #44 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:38:43 PM »

Where are all these amazing Japanese games that are coming out? Another Final Fantasy? Another Dragon Quest? Another Tekken?

tiesto · « **Reply #45 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:39:09 PM »

Quote from: Willco on September 26, 2009, 01:34:16 PM

I like how tiesto writes off almost every genre except a handful of Japafag favorites, that are as every bit as repetitive as the genres he hates.

Shmups! Fighters! 2D games!

... Yeah, Japanese don't milk their fighters or shmup- O WAIT.

So, my tastes are a bit different from the typical Evilbore PC and technological marvel Xbox 360 games... Do people HAVE to play EVERY SINGLE GENRE that comes out?

Also, where are the Americans on the handheld systems? The DS is kicking the shit out of the 3 console systems, yet apart from Wayforward and the Drawn to Life guys, the western development is fucking horrible. PSP fares a bit better with western development, but still.

cool breeze · « **Reply #46 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:42:24 PM »

Americans handheld devs roll with the iPhone/iPod Touch.

There are still some good western made DS games from time to time, like Soul Bubbles and Henry Hatsworth. Moon was also pretty alright for a DS FPS. Forgot about Chinatown Wars, which was also great, but also soon to be on PSP and iPhone.

The only other western game made DS game I have is a shitty Rayman 2 port I bought in Europe years ago.

tiesto · « **Reply #47 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:44:14 PM »

Quote from: Willco on September 26, 2009, 01:38:43 PM

Where are all these amazing Japanese games that are coming out? Another Final Fantasy? Another Dragon Quest? Another Tekken?

Hmm, in new IPs, to my knowledge:

Level 5 + Studio Ghibli game, Nostalgia, Last Ranker

Of course those are all on portables, which of course doesn't mean anything to the EB 360/PC only gamers.

For the other consoles, there's Bayonetta, End of Eternity, 3D Dot Game Heroes, Last Guardian.

I'd like to hear some fresh new Western IP to look forward to. There's Borderlands and uhhhhh.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #48 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:44:28 PM »

So you have conceded that western developers make better console games, but the Japanese own the handheld market?

... the same market that has become a dumping ground for old Japanese RPGs and ports of popular, Japanese-developed SNES titles?

Dude, Beezy linked a whole list of stuff coming out this year.

Oh, tiesto. Never change.

Beezy · « **Reply #49 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:45:22 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on September 26, 2009, 01:39:09 PM

Do people HAVE to play EVERY SINGLE GENRE that comes out?

No, but it's good to be more open minded. Playing only genres that are basically japanese exclusive and saying nothing is coming from the west makes no sense.

This gen has had more new interesting IPs from the west than Japan. Even more so if you exclude Capcom, the only Japanese developer that seems to be putting out any effort.

cool breeze · « **Reply #50 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:48:35 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on September 26, 2009, 01:44:14 PM

Quote from: Willco on September 26, 2009, 01:38:43 PM
Where are all these amazing Japanese games that are coming out? Another Final Fantasy? Another Dragon Quest? Another Tekken?

Hmm, in new IPs, to my knowledge:

Level 5 + Studio Ghibli game, Nostalgia, Last Ranker

Of course those are all on portables, which of course doesn't mean anything to the EB 360/PC only gamers.

For the other consoles, there's Bayonetta, End of Eternity, 3D Dot Game Heroes, Last Guardian.

I'd like to hear some fresh new Western IP to look forward to. There's Borderlands and uhhhhh.

To be fair, almost every game that is shown in Japan gets some coverage on forums. I don't think anyone here knows what Edge of Twilight is, but the trailer was cool and it's a game I'm looking forward to.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #51 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:49:17 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on September 26, 2009, 01:28:39 PM

Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on September 26, 2009, 01:19:37 PM
I don't see anything amazing coming out from America.
What do you see coming out of Japan?

Pretty much what tiesto said cept for a few different titles.

The list that Beezy linked is garbage. I don't want to play more than half of that tripe looking shit.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #52 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:52:11 PM »

So far, Junpei and tiesto's argument is they don't like the games on that list, and prefer to play JRPGs, shmups and DMC4-type action titles, so everything else sucks by default.

tiesto · « **Reply #53 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:53:48 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on September 26, 2009, 01:45:22 PM

Quote from: tiesto on September 26, 2009, 01:39:09 PM
Do people HAVE to play EVERY SINGLE GENRE that comes out?
No, but it's good to be more open minded. Playing only genres that are basically japanese exclusive and saying nothing is coming from the west makes no sense.

This gen has had more new interesting IPs from the west than Japan.

Every time I try to become more open-minded, I end up getting burned... I have played through the Halo saga (well, not the new one), Call of Duty 4, and Gears of War... didn't like any of them. So, as my game-time shrinks, why would I spend more time attempting to branch out into genres I never liked in hopes of finding another Half Life in a pile of tripe... instead of taking the safe route, playing a game I will probably either like or love, where the chance of time-wasting is much lower? Make sense?

Willco, I took a look at the list, and it was exactly like I expected - all western on the HD systems, mostly Japanese on DS/PSP/Wii. Makes sense due to the economics of the situation, why would Japan waste all this time/resources designing for the 4th and 5th place systems over there? I also think you're missing my argument entirely... which is, I like genres that Japan concentrates on, and I could give 2 shits about many popular western genres. I'm not saying that everyone should play exactly what I play, but it seems that you, Beezy, etc. want me to be more "open minded" and play all these American made titles.

2009 is a pretty weak year for gaming in general, both sides of the ocean, though.

Beezy · « **Reply #54 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:56:43 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on September 26, 2009, 01:53:48 PM

Quote from: Beezy on September 26, 2009, 01:45:22 PM
Quote from: tiesto on September 26, 2009, 01:39:09 PM
Do people HAVE to play EVERY SINGLE GENRE that comes out?
No, but it's good to be more open minded. Playing only genres that are basically japanese exclusive and saying nothing is coming from the west makes no sense.

This gen has had more new interesting IPs from the west than Japan.

Every time I try to become more open-minded, I end up getting burned... I have played through the Halo saga (well, not the new one), Call of Duty 4, and Gears of War... didn't like any of them. So, as my game-time shrinks, why would I spend more time attempting to branch out into genres I never liked in hopes of finding another Half Life in a pile of tripe... instead of taking the safe route, playing a game I will probably either like or love, where the chance of time-wasting is much lower? Make sense?

What about Mirror's Edge, Dead Space, Crackdown, Burnout Paradise (new take on the series), Assassin's Creed, Batman: AA? You nkow, games that aren't shooters? I don't care for shooters that much either. COD4 is the only one I play because of the multiplayer. I have Gears of War 2 also, but I haven't touched it since I beat the campaign.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #55 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:57:46 PM »

I'm not saying that, all I'm saying is that the majority of American output looks uninteresting to me. I mean rather play Baten Kaitos than Mass Effect. If america or europe made something like that, I'd play that in a second.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #56 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:58:45 PM »

Except that was never my argument, nor am I as close minded as yourself.

I will play Brutal Legend and Borderlands and Dark Void and Ratchet and Clank and Dragon Age, in addition to stuff like Assassin's Creed 2, Modern Warfare 2, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Shadow Complex, Halo 3: ODST, DiRT 2, Dead Space: On Rails!, etc.

That spans almost every genre and that list is far more open minded than yours.

There's also original IPs on there.

And I can guarantee that almost all of those games will be more polished than their Japanese counterparts and more innovative, especially when you're holding to dear life on a handful of JRPGs.

So eat it, tiesto.

Beezy · « **Reply #57 on:** September 26, 2009, 02:00:54 PM »

Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on September 26, 2009, 01:57:46 PM

I'm not saying that, all I'm saying is that the majority of American output looks uninteresting to me. I mean rather play Baten Kaitos than Mass Effect. If america or europe made something like that, I'd play that in a second.

Baten Kaitos is a GC game. Have you ever actually tried Mass Effect?

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #58 on:** September 26, 2009, 02:05:43 PM »

I beat Mass Effect. It's medicore at best. I hate the combat, hate it.

tiesto · « **Reply #59 on:** September 26, 2009, 02:07:15 PM »

Quote from: Willco on September 26, 2009, 01:58:45 PM

Except that was never my argument, nor am I as close minded as yourself.

I will play Brutal Legend and Borderlands and Dark Void and Ratchet and Clank and Dragon Age, in addition to stuff like Assassin's Creed 2, Modern Warfare 2, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Shadow Complex, Halo 3: ODST, DiRT 2, Dead Space: On Rails!, etc.

That spans almost every genre and that list is far more open minded than yours.

There's also original IPs on there.

And I can guarantee that almost all of those games will be more polished than their Japanese counterparts and more innovative, especially when you're holding to dear life on a handful of JRPGs.

So eat it, tiesto.

I can guarantee the 6th or 7th Ratchet game since the series started is going to be innovative as hell, as well as the 6th Call of Duty game, and another Halo game. And I like what I've played of the Ratchets

Actually I find many American made games to be much buggier and unpolished... they may look graphically very nice, but usually feature game freezing glitches. *cough*Bethesda*cough*

I am not 'holding on to dear life'... just because I tend to prefer a genre you hate. So, more power to you if there are a lot of games you're interested in this holiday season. I don't really give a fuck, and it doesn't really affect me one way or another what you do with your time. If the games I like stop getting made, I will just play through my backlog of old games, or move on to other hobbies/interests. I don't really know why you are so emotionally invested in attacking me for what I play and what I enjoy, like a 15 year old kid who is like "your favorite band sucks! you should all listen to BAND-X!!!". For all I know, I didn't do anything to piss you off.

Like I said, I find being 'open minded' overrated.

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